They've also turned the profile pic to classic Sonic
Wake me up when they rerelease Sonic 06
>he doesn't like Sonic Boom
The show is good but the games are trash. I'm glad it's successful getting a second season.
Is the President in shadow the hedgehog and sonic adventure 2 a democrat or republican?
Remember, this guy allowed the ark to blow up half the moon and didn't nuke the shit out of it, choosing instead to send his army after two hedgehogs
>posting low res version
You disgust me, OP.
there is no reason I should be laughing
What do you think the 25th anniversary game will be? Do you think it'll be another Sonic Adventure-like game? We know Crush 40 is involved but that's grasping at straws since they were involved in Generations as well. Hell, it could also be Sonic Generations 2, for all we know.
>when a sonic thread on /v/ isn't filled with autism yet and is actually discussing the games
Feels great. I love you all.
I think the worst part about sonic boom is the voice acting. The only new voices that are actually good is knuckles, tails, and amy. Sonic and shadow are fucking awful. Which is weird because sonic sounds ok in the games but shadow is just pure shit. Jason griffith needs to be shadow again
I see some quality there.
It's fine. My 8 years old me would like to watch this.
>implying the claps have or ever will elect an independent.
Come on get real, anon. Judging by the way G.U.N. Looks its probably a rebulican, what with endless spending on cutting edge weaponry
Guys i have a sonic itch, and the only games i have are the genesis digital ones. haven't played boom but i actually more or less enjoy every single other one. might help that i rent them from gamefly as they are never worth buying, but what should i play i wonder
It's gonna be a new collection
It's simply going to be what the megaman collection should have been. Every mainline sonic title released on one blue ray disc with a fat trophy list.
Right, I've played them all too, i just don't know which i wanna play again. I'm the sort of guy who enjoyed A ranking in SA2 and S ranking in Sonic 06.
Its actually wierd mastering a game with so many problems
If you want 2D: Advance series
If you want 3D: Adventure 2, Unleashed, Generations
A majority of Sonic games are easy to emulate or cheap on steam. The only one thats stuck on consoles is Sonic Unleashed, and you'll need more than the renting time to beat it. If you can find Unleashed for like 10 or 20 bucks its a good investment and pretty long game and theres tons of side missions, things to collect, hubs etc that are polished and interesting. The npcs actually have side stories
Do kids actually buy sonic boom figures and posters? Thats so crazy to imagine since the redesigns are so ugly. The 20th anniversary figures they had are a lot better looking, I atually bought some of them to collect
The wii/ps2 version is fucking terrible. The day stages are terribly hacked together and there are way more night stages. Continents were removed, hubs are gone, mechanics are lacking, speed is way slower compared to the other one.
Stick to unleashed 360/ps3. Its a much fuller feeling game if that makes sense.
Night stages weren't bad to me, the combat was easy but pretty fun, and the slow platforming was very solid, I don't really run into any glitches in those levels, it just feels like more love went into it.
The werehog is stupid as hell, so i think that makes people overlook how well down the night stages actually were.
I like the night stages to but I'm saying the unleashed wii has way more night stages than the 360 one.
The night stages on xbox have great platforming and scenery. I agree with all that
except I thought the werehog was cute. Just nothing to do with the wii version thoguh
What ever sega does, They better just focus on one release. No slightly different portable versions, if you need to do that, make a new game entirely.
If this is gonna be the year of sonic, i just hope for something like this
Sonic Battle 2 with online.
Sonic Adventure 3/Generations / the big main course title.
Sonic Sonic rush 3.
I would even be happy with sonic 4 part 3, or sonic 5
I need help, i can't hate the series because the gameplay is never that bad to me, even though i see the flaws.
>all the reveiws will call it shit
I am actually convinced many the game informer reveiwer for generations didn't actually play it
Like, they docked it for having crysis city.
Sonic 06 aside, Crysis city was cool as fuck. and the generations level made it a good level
Why is havoc bad? it seems like a fairly solid engine, just not for sonic games. I've never really looked into game engines, what even are they? i get that it helps game production, just not how
It feels very raw, like, not polished and for those who don't want to learn physics when making a complex game.
Compare it to euphoria for example (the one used on all rockstar games since GTA IV), the ragdolls actually have an AI and react to everything they're exposed to.
Yeah i too liked the series i wish they would make a fourth game but both the company and the series ended.
No reviewer bothers playing Sonic games anymore, not since after 06. They just record video of themselves fucking around doing nothing and claim it's the fault of the game. Sonic is literally the only franchise where the player being shit is considered the game's fault.
Havok has nothing to do with how the game controls, just the physics used for destructible objects like when you ram into things while boosting.
>Sonic is literally the only franchise where the player being shit is considered the game's fault.
Can you exlpain this phenomena? you fucks heard about some austistic kid winning some obscure contest and then proceeded to worship him? like, I've been hear since 2010, by no means a legandary oldfag or a total cancer newfag, but i don't understand this christian chandler cult at all.
Unleashed and Gens had different control physics; there's a mod that lets you import the former to the latter as part of the latter if you prefer that. So the physics for how the game actually controls are definitely determined by the dev team, and it's only because Gens was literally shat out at the last minute because some intern reminded them that Sonic's 20th anniversary was coming up that Classic Sonic's physics were so garbage.
It's possible to have solid controls while still using Havok for environmental physics, the devs just need to actually give a shit for once.
>I've been here since 2010
>I'm not a cancer newfag
m8 i've been browsing 4chan regularly since fucking 2012 (made some posts on /b/ in 2010 but that was it) and even I know who he is. In fact I've known him since 2008 through Youtube. You're more of a newfag than I am.
Fair enough, I might be cancer, But at least I'm not the cancer that worships the ground some guy walks on entirely because he really likes sonic the hedgehog. I was just looking for an explanation Baldymcnosehairs.
The Modern part came out really good though. Levels like Seaside Hill and Crisis City made my dick rock-hard.
How is it that the 3DS version has spot-on physics, though, while the level design is just lazily rehashed, while the HD version has weird scripted physics but with actual level design?
not sure if baiting or total neo cancer.
have a (you) anyway
The time i mentioned is to tell you all how long ive watched this and wondered why it is. My obsession over people on the internet being obsessed with a guy who is obsessed with sonic bother me sometimes.
It also seems to be a thread killer the moment i ask
There's not much to understand.
He's a sad human being and people find it funny to encourage his antics.
I don't know why. It is what it is.
I wish fags would stop giving him attention but whatever. Hopefully he'll just kill himself one day and that'll be that.
Because like every other Sonic Dimps game after Rush Adventure, they gave Dimps a handful of months to do it. So they already had the physics good to go from the DS games, but any new level design and graphical elements didn't have time to be polished.
Literally every problem in the history of Sonic can be attributed to executives pushing the game out too quickly, or Iizuka.
2 each, in no particular order.
Scrap brain and Starlight in 1
Mystic cave and wing fortress for 2
Ice cap and lava reef.
red mountain and skydeck
Metal harbour and pyramid cave
Metropolis and skydeck/final fortress
cool edge and empire city
White acropolis and hidden kingdom
astroid coaster and sweet mountain
October 1st, 2003. I don't blame you if you've been browsing for so many years though.
I'm sure I would've loved 2000s 4chan, but it's best that I didn't browse it during that time. Not only was I underage, I would've probably got myself doxxed like a fucking retard, or some other really unfortunate thing, since I was so fucking gullible. Don't ask me how, I just know my past self too much.
I fucking wish
Does anyone know what year generations started production? I always thought it was shortly after unleashed but people are now saying they quickly put it together in about a year. Imagine what 2-3 years could do, we really might be able to get 2 stages from each game
It was a great future, sorry your ign pals wont allow you to have fun since youre so worthless you need to latch onto a name to collectively hate. How does it feel being the real autist in all of this?
How is Lost World /v/? I played the demo for a bit a while ago and thought it was okay. Never played a Sonic game before either. Was thinking of maybe picking this up.
Classic sonic in generations is terrible and the shit half of the game. Its all scripts, way more than modern sonic actually. Ill never understand the fan and reviewer wank over classic sonic, especially since boost sonic is the best sonic yet.
It is the pinnacle of mediocrity. It isn't even all that bad, it's just bland, boring, sterile and not all that good. It is perhaps the most average and uninteresting Sonic game to ever exist.
>Crysis city was cool as fuck. and the generations level made it a good level
Yeah and i've played both games to understand the error but did he think there was a game called Crysis Generations?
>never played a sonic game before
Are you like, five?
The left side of this image continues to trigger the fuck out of my autism
For some reason SEGA has taken to using those weird mountains from Quartz Quadrant Present in the background of Green Hill Zone - this isn't the first time I've seen them used. Also the shadow underneath the grass on the left hand Green Hill is way too small compared to how it was in Sonic 1. As for the clouds, I have no fucking idea where those come from but they sure don't look like the OG Green Hill clouds to me
How is it that they even manage to fuck up simple copy-pasting of Sonic 1 sprite assets? My mind is blown
I think Crush 40 overstayed their welcome, if I'm honest. I found it a breath of fresh air when they got the guy from Bowling For Soup to do Unleashed's theme. Cash Cash for Sonic Colors was alright too
I hope it means that Sonic Adventure 3 is going to officially happen, if it does my child self will get excited and i'll play the shit out of it day 1 then i'll drop the franchise forever unless generations 2 comes along or something
>Never played a Sonic game before either.
these are the people visiting /v/ right now
>- Sonic Boom TV show will expand into Russia, Spain and Turkey
>- more partners joining the Sonic Boom toy/merchandise line
>- ‘Classic Sonic’ is described as ‘Pixel Sonic’
>- Archies Sonic is now ‘Comic Book Sonic’
>- Bioworld, Archie Comics and First 4 Figures are all named as being brands who will be supporting the 25th anniversary
>- products include, toys, publishing, clothing and even ‘limited edition collectibles
>- Sega are looking to expand on this list
>- 2016 will be a a celebration of Sonic’s 25th birthday throughout the year
>- New Style Guides and new collaborations across toy, gift apparel, branded events and bespoke retail events initiatives
>merchandise. Merchandise. MERCHANDISE.
>Absolutely no new VIDEO GAMES to celebrate the 25th anniversary for a VIDEO GAME franchise
>Boom!Sonic is being forced in despite only being around for only a minuscule amount of time and effectively killing off the video games completely in exchange for an okay cartoon
Wow, Sonic is really, actually, FINALLY dead, isn't he?
We already got Sonic Adventure 3.
Search your feelings anon. You know it to be true.
If youbwanna dig deeper there is a whole wiki dedicated to the manchd himself. Interesting reads and yes he does have arcs throughout his timeline.
There isba timeskip after the housefire/death in the family arcs.
That's the point, that's from an actual official review where the reviewer fucks around and blames it on the game.
hahaha cool thread....
but can anyone defeat knight of the wind sonic the hedgehog? and i dont mean regular knight of the wind sonic the hedgehog. i mean full-power knight of the wind with gold sacred armor and fused excalibur w/all 100 arabian rings and 7 world rings which let him turn into darkspine and use fire abilities and warp time fly and regenerate with the soul guage, the seven chaos emeals enhanced with the master emeral so he can turn into hyper sonic energy projection and clone ability of excalibur together with no emotions when he turns into darkspine . i dont think so
I'm playing Lost World for the first time and someone help me..... I think it's a good game. I like the run button and the game feels tight to play. A 3d sonic game that doesn't feel like a glitchy mess. Someone help me because I'm enjoying the fuck out of this game so far
Hardly. It's easy to understand, it's just boring. The controls are literally designed so little kids can beat the game, there's no excuse for flailing around like a brain-dead retard and then pretending it's the game's fault.
There should just be a sonic pack for rock band
>open your heart
>live and learn
>escape from the city
>dreams of absolution
>knight of the wind
>dreams of an absolution
Replace with Sonic Boom and You Can Do Anything. Or the entire Sonic R soundtrack.
>he doesn't like dreams of an absolution
It's not going to be Generations 2. I bet it's gonna be Lost World but with classic stages
Sonic 2 - Emerald Hill
Sonic 1 - Starlight
Sonic 3 - Hydrocity
Sonic K - Lava Reef
Sonic CD - Stardust Speedway
Sonic Adv - Emerald Coast
Sonic Hroes - Hang Castle
Sonic Colors - Tropical Resort
Sonic Lost World - Desert Ruin
>EVER giving a flying fuck about amy
shes been on his dick since she was literally 8 years old and he always pushed her off to find other bitches. he bangs hoes while amy watches from the closet, masturbates, and cries. in boom shes not addicted to his dick anymore because they didnt want to make her a desperate loser again
>amy is a cuck
Makes sense actually. Sonic has actually had better chemistry and scenes with Blaze so far. They had a hot cold relationship in Rush but she always looked up to him and he thought she was cool and not annoying like amy. If anyone else managed to play black knight, there was tons of sonic and blaze material in there.
I dont see why they cant recycle a bunch of assets from generations and use them to make new levels.
They could make the death egg from the classic sonic boss fight area. They can make final rush with the shadow boss fight area. They can use the casino pinball bonus to make a casino level from sonic 2 or heroes. They can use stardust speedway from the metal sonic boss fight to make a real stardust speedway level.
Speed highway, city escape, and rooftop run could be used to make another urban city level. Green hill can be retooled into emerald hill. Generations is a game ripe for recycling and reusing assets and just building off of them. Fuck they could even go back to unleashed and pull some of that data to make ice cap or angel island with holoska or adabat. The hedgehog engine is fucking amazing
you know that stereotypical anime character whos always got the hots for one of the main characters (usually male for female) but his attraction gets played for laughs and never taken seriously? thats amy. fuck, in the generations intro hes fending her off and completely ignores her advances. in other games like sonic 06 hes got other bitches he likes. in the comics he fugged every girl EXCEPT amy, including the girl tails liked. what a dick. point is, if anyones the cuck, its amy
No way man, black knight really pushed sonic and blaze together. There was tons of good stuff in there
Yeah youre right that makes a lot of sense. In the games sonic always attracts to blaze and gets the fuck away from amy whenever he can. Even after she saved him in prison island in sonic adventure 2, he didnt even stay to say thanks. Amy was made for cucking
Good taste, its only natural
The trifecta of perfect calsic sonic gamers are
Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Knuckles Chaotix is SO GOOD. It's a shame most people never played it due to being on the 32x.
Knuckles is a hot head, not a fucking retard.
Also, these proportions still fucking piss me off.
Why did they do this to my favorite character?
The Tails, Amy, and Eggman designs are great though.
>Amy was made for cucking
yes. people still ship them though. including sonic autists who ought to know that he doesnt fucking like her. they cant make it any more clear
the only amy cuck porn is her cucking sonic and not the other way around
You just dont see it. Amy is sonics cuck and they will never ever fug. Blaze for the games, literally every other girl in the comics. Sonic is a pure alpha in those
The advance trilogy as a whole is great, but Unleashed is top tier and probably the best 3D Sonic
They just take it at face value. Probably because amy is the first sonic gal and the blue/pink color dynamic is very suggestive and fits perfectly like yin/yang. Sonic doesnt care for amy outside of saving her, he can totally get it on with blaze if he wanted or numerous girls from the comics
Watching Sonic Boom is like drinking a flat soda. Yeah you'd rather have a fresh one, but at least it's still cold.
Watching TTG is like getting a handjob from Edward Scissor hands while watching Johnny Test.
>putting bandages on your shoes
It's like something Chris would write. What if his blue-arm rage was because he came up with Sonic Boom and someone added the idea to give Sonic blue arms at the last minute and CWC just didn't like it?
someone needs to do this picture but with sonic
Can Sonic's 25th anniversary party be his funeral?
They aren't bandages anon.
before it finished, it was STRONGLY implied that sakura was a cuck caring for sasukes lovechild. sarada even accepted that. unfortunately it turns out she was her real mom after all
how about you learn to read, jackass
the ride was fantastic though. sakurafags already got recktified to hell and back after hinata won the naruto bowl AND this happens right afterwards. it was so good. he wanted to do it so badly too. you could tell he asspulled at the end
Why doesn't modern sega understand that the original sonic art style was trying to imitate 80s post modern aesthetic?
They make the grass all cartoony and early 2000s looking, but leave the checker-board pattern without understanding why it was there in the first place.
It's so fucking stupid.
For someone like Sonic, yeah. Compared to other videogame characters, not really.
I mean, Lost World Sonic, with the ''run'' button pressed, runs slower than fucking Tommy Vercetti or Venom Snake. That's shameful for ''the fastest thing alive''.
I think of it like other platformers.
In Mario games, I'm always holding down the B button to run.
In Mega Man X/Zero/ZX, I'm constantly dashing.
In Sanic 3D I'm always boosting.
So in LW, there's nothing wrong with having a run button.
That said, the level design itself is boring as shit. The best 3D Sonic levels are rooted in reality, not floating planetoids. Look at City Escape. Terminal Velocity. Emerald Coast. Launch Base. All of them are places you might expect to see in some unspecified time in the future or even today.
Lost World just gives you a bunch of disconnected spheres with a spring connecting them.
Fucking Emerald Coast? Really? It's already been done
Replace it with something more unique like Twinkle Park
Emerald Hill? It's just fucking Green Hill Zone 2.0
Replace it with Aquatic Ruin or maybe Oil Ocean
>actually thinking Classic Amy and Modern Amy are the same character
Classic Sonic wasn't a faggot who ran away from her like an idiot(pic related)
He just viewed her as a child who was in danger and needed to be saved...cuz Classic Sonic was mature unlike that fag Modern Sonic
>The advance trilogy as a whole is great
Advance 2 and 3 are bullcrap
>Unleashed is top tier and probably the best 3D Sonic
Unleashed is a top tier piece of shit that's what it is
If you want the same shit that doesn't smell as bad then play Generations(at least they tried with the level design more in that game)
If I have to play a 3D Sonic Game(if I absolutely have to) then I'll play Adventure 1/2(the Sonic/Shadow stages only)...and I don't even like them that much and have a lot of issues with them but at least those control fairly well and not like a car like the Boost Stages do
Not even close to the worst
But they could improve the level by making it longer
The aesthetics and the music are top notch too
>Kid Icarus' 25th
One will be amazing, one will be shit and two will be non-existent. Kid Icarus won't be celebrated for sure but what about Metroid?
In that pic its obvious that sonic is trying to ditch her so he can go on adventuring, running, helping someone in trouble, whatever he likes doing. Both sonics are immature. The 90s one is a smart ass punk type. The new one is radical and cocky. Both have a good heart.
No he doesn't
Classic Sonic was 16 too
According to the Sonic JAM Manual he was 16(pic related)
It's just Sega being faggots trying to tell us that Classic Sonic was Modern Sonic when he was a kid but that's a whole load of bullshit
>In that pic its obvious that sonic is trying to ditch her
Nope,he's holding her
And he's showing no reaction at all,completely playing it cool
Not saying he's interested in her but he's not being an obnoxious fag
Unlike Modern Sonic who would go "Ahhhh Amy,gotta run"
>The controls are literally designed so little kids can beat the game
The controls feel very mechanical and the game has close to no explanations. Hell, some of the controls were posted on the fucking Sonic twitter and nowhere else.
>youre not wrong
Except he is
Classic Sonic is 16
Sega doesn't give a fuck about canon so when they redesigned the characters for Adventure(which was basically a reboot of the series) they de-aged Sonic to 15,they aged Amy and Tails to 12,kept Knuckles at 16 I think
>sonic fan calling nintendo fan autist.
That has to be the most laughable pot calling kettle black I've seen in a while.
Anyway on topic and autism aside, I think it's really time to let him go as fans. There have been recent decent titles, that is absolutely true..but nothing we ever ask for will ever replace what we had as kids. Sonic as a character and mascot has not only transitioned poorly over the years, but the older games we loved were shallow and have aged poorly. The dev teams and direction for the series will never ever be the same, and we're just stuck in the sega cycle. It's time to move on, Modern sega and sonic team are incapable of making sonic a nostalgia mean blue blur again.
You're missing the point here
What I'm trying to say here is that the Modern Sonic Universe and the Classic Sonic Universe are completely separate entities
I.E Classic Sonic isn't Kid Modern Sonic...that's just bullshit faggotry from Neo Sonic Team's part...the same faggots who thought that Knuckles story in Sonic 3 & Knuckles took place at the exact same time as Sonic's story(which if you've played the game you know that doesn't make sense)
nigga PC is ALWAYS given the chewed up scraps. They'll sooner port Unleashed when consoles get new Sonic, and the PC port of that will come 5 years from now.
For a platform that Sega claims to earn them so much, they sure are treating it like shit.
Will SEGA ever acknowledge its existence EVER again?
Being able to stop the Chaos Emeralds is a pretty fucking huge deal especially in stopping Super Sonic so Eggman can fuck shit up easier.
Though if Unleashed intro is anything to go by, Eggman can at least restrain Super Sonic if he gets him off guard.
Sonic is and always has been a mediocre franchise whose only reason of survival is autism, furries and overall mental illnesses.
The amount of plain bad games it's had outdo by far the amount of passable games. I seriously doubt there even exists another franchise that has the same grade of recognition as Sonic's, who's easily as recognizable as Mario or Donkey Kong for example, while also having such a huge quatity of awful games under its belt.
Just go ahead and try to prove me wrong.
you're getting wii u + pc and maybe ps360
>5 years from now
sonic isn't final fantasy
lost world and sonic racing were on pc like a year after first release. how are they treating it like shit. they've ported lots of stuff. to be fair i wish yakuza and resonance of fate were on there too
>Never played a Sonic game before either.
It's mentioned in story (if you want to call it that) as well, but it's there.
PC version of Racing Transformed came a few months later. The original was only a few days later. Valkyria Chronicles came to PC 6 years after the PS3 version, and there are new VC games announced, none of which have PC versions. It's safe to say they don't care about PC anymore, starting at around 2012.
Either that, or significantly delayed PC versions is exponentially more profitable than day 1 PC versions.
You're average sonic fanboy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4yDVKidRqA
>>Kid Icarus' 25th
Even if Sakurai cared he'd never be able to shit out a game in less than a year.
Anniversary games gave us rushed shit like Xillia and 2006. Fuck celebrating.
>when he's not being stupid
Even before Boom Knuckles was a retard.
are you trolling? you have to be , cause what you're saying is retarded. they just put out Lost world on PC. Valkyria took this long because the steam craze started in 2012-13
obviously delayed pc versions are more profitable than day pc versions. but the delays are getting shorter. this is true for like all companies, not just sega. falcom is porting a bunch of their vita games, for example. we're in the age of steam
Which Sonic game has the best assortment of world archetypes?
>then I'll play Adventure 1/2(the Sonic/Shadow stages only)...and I don't even like them that much and have a lot of issues with them but at least those control fairly well
Literally the ONLY Japanese game to have a day 1 PC version. Actually, there was also The Evil Within, but that was developed by the Japanese, and published by Bethesda. But the Japanese will never fully support PC on their own volition, much less ANYWHERE close to how they support Playstation.
knux was never stupid. In 3 hes shortsighted, but hes been guarding the master emerald for years so hes xenophobic. This whole concept however was scrapped in adventures for nigga-knuckles which the master emerald is nothing more than extended gameplay.
maybe, but the guy who usually takes it has an IQ of 300 and tech support up the ass so its not hard to see why he'd have a hard time protecting it from him every now and again
Sonic Colors actually has one of the most interesting ones, since they seem to be based out of two different concepts each, like how Sweet Mountain is food and military level and Aquarium Park is oriental and water level.
>PC owning this generation
>very few exclusives
>even fewer Japanese games
>completely obliterated by even the Xbone in terms of software lineup, much less the PSQuad
>my $1,000 paperweight multiplat machine is the best platform for this gen
They also said Knuckles story took place at the same time Sonic's story in 3&K
I.E They're full of shit and never gave a shit about canon in the first place
That's been proven many times
Especially in Adventure 1 when Angel Island looked nothing like Angel Island in 3&K and the fact that they continue to ignore Hyper Sonic ever existed
He was not xenophobic
He was naive since he always lived alone and didn't have any social experience so he easily got tricked by Robotnik
In Adventure when they redesigned him they decided to make him stupid instead but I consider that version of him a different entity from the one in 3&K anyways
I mean I guess if you wanna argue stuff like I dunno.... shitty games like atelier rorona ... or neptunia or senran kagura or miku or whatever. sure.
but real games usually get ported. The latest Ys is coming, and so did Trails in the Sky. Tales of Zestiria and Symphonia is coming too
>Remember, this guy allowed the ark to blow up half the moon and didn't nuke the shit out of it
It blew up the half of the moon and wasn't at max power. You think it doesn't have the defences to match?
Every day level in unleashed is better than any level in colors. The werehog was handled averagely and kind of repetitive but it wasnt gamebreaking. And it helped make the game longer and was used greatly in the ending.
Much more than you can say for any of the throwaway levels in colors (re: everything after act 1)
>every day level in unleashed is better than colors
I agree but the werehog is still so bad that it negates all of that stuff.
at least in colors I'm not getting a bite of pizza and a bite of dog feces alternating
The werehog is not "so bad". Its just not as exciting as the day levels but its still well put together, fully developed instead of randomly tacked on, and has great levels and music
Unleashed is much much better than colors and about equal to generations.
>tfw we'll unleashedfags won't admit it was mediocre
I mean it did translate boostan from rush into 3d well but it just didn't have any level design at all. For the most part it was just a straight path to the end in the day levels while Colors at the very least had some variation in that regard where boosting wasn't the be all end all and it followed into gens well.
To sum things up unleashed is the only boost to win game.
Unleashed was Okay
Generations was Okay at best. (Classic zones are shit , modern is okay enough to pass ,why add in 2D Sections??)
Colors was uninspired , and okay to say the least. the controls were unintuitive , the music and the cast was forgetable and stages were like a mess of different ideas
Also a literal mario galaxy rip-off
Please stop praising Generations as "great" its an okay sonic game. Its not as great as you make it seem
I still 100% Generations tho.
The floating Master Emerald shrine is not the entirety of Angel Island. That entire area is part of it, include Ice Cap. But you only go to a sliver of Angel Island in Adventure 1.
There is literally no point in trying to follow Sonic video game continuity, because it hardly exists. If you want continuity from the Sonic Universe, read the comics. Just make sure you don't stumble into the reboot, it's fucking terrible, and they did away with all 20 something years previous canon
Anyone up for some rounds of Sonic Racing on 360?
What did Eggman tend to do with the M.E in SA2?
I believe the last time Knuckles got tricked was in Sonic Advance 2? Nowadays he's the first to point fingers at Eggman.
>and they did away with all 20 something years previous canon
But that was a good thing. Literally nothing of value was lost and it's led to the comic universe being closer to the games universe with reinterpreted and original characters that are closer to how Sonic characters should look instead of "generic furry" or "recolored Knuckles"
I may have been a bit hard , but Lost worlds was Heavily and i mean HEAVILY inspired on Galaxy.
Also the giant springs with stars are called Launch stars in the game files, I thought that was kinda cute
>Years after they had them
Bitch please, this generation has being full of exclusive for PS4* and the least we talk about the xbone the better, all those years later games are for tangible exclusives from the previous generation that never went to other consoles, making a point of how late the game took is pretty weak when the other platforms are never getting it, a platforms that gets most "exclusives" is better than one with fewer but sooner games
I tried staying a fan, I really did, but the fact that they are trying soooo hard to make their arcs line up with the latest video games, tells me they are completely void of originality. And the pacing is so fucking slow I just can't. I've been a StH fan for many many years, and after the reboot it really was not hard to drop.
I'm sorry but the reboot just is not good.
Knuckles is still fairly gullible, thats part of his character. You can kind of see it in his lines in runners and generations but the last time it was obvious was advance 2 yes
>the fact that they are trying soooo hard to make their arcs line up with the latest video games
Since the reboot, the only game adaptation they've done is Sonic Unleashed (old) and Sonic Fighters (old as all hell.) And both were heavily modified versions of the game at that.
My biggest problem with the Anniversary one. It was brilliant playing as classic Sonic (AKA. Real Sonic) But like 65-70% of the game was catered to Modern Sonic (AKA Edgy Sonic)
Am I the only one upset that this bullshit will delay the current arcs in the comics by a year now? Eggman's arc, Silver's arc, the unleashed arc? All now put on hold because Sega demands a story ment to celebrate 5 years of decent and 20 of mediocre to below average crap from the video games and will not allow anybody who isn't Sonic,Tails,Orbot,Cubot and Eggman to do anything. Amy and Knuckles may get a short cameo like in Lost World but Sega's more or less thrown them in the trash with all the other characters at the insistence of the game's constantly angry fanbase.
>led to the comic universe being closer to the games universe
Which was literally their biggest mistake. The stories to the games, at least the post Dreamcast games, are absolutely terrible.
>they are trying soooo hard to make their arcs line up with the latest video games
It's almost like it's a licensed comic book based on a pre-existing video game franchise and tying into the main franchise is one of the things they should be doing, instead of making completely irrelevant and unrelated autistic fanfiction about secret brotherhoods of retards where the actual characters from the games do nothing important despite their names being on the title of the book.
I used to love eating these, holy fuck
I have both sonic racing games on 360 but i havent had gold in years. If i had a gold account i would totally play the first one with you, i love the first sonic racing more than the second one
Modern Sonic isn't edgy in the slightest. The Sonic fandom froths at the mouth that he's so child-friendly even. It's astounding how much people hate such a lighthearted series not being treated like an epic drama.
I'm sorry guys, I'm not trying to convince you the reboots are bad. If you like them, more power to you. But they're bad. It's like they're winging the whole damn thing which explains the horrible pacing.
We want light hearted characters but a high stakes story with events going on like in adventure and unleashed. Everything since colors is just shitty gag after shitty gag.
>If you want the same shit that doesn't smell as bad then play Generations(at least they tried with the level design more in that game)
Generations is horrible for speedruns, at least speedruns that look interesting.
Generations is, fortunately for the general player, a lot less buggy and solid as a game. There's a few glitches, but you can't really fly off from the stage and then jump off a rock to the goal ring. This means that you're limited by the level design, at least, much less than Unleashed.
Unleashed has shit like that, and it's entertaining as fuck to watch.
Just compare these two runs
Unleashed has bigger skips, and is generally a lot more impressive to watch because he goes onto a wall, hits it, and then flies off. Generations, while it's interesting to see Sonic jump over literally everything, doesn't have the wow factor of seeing a blue hedgehog fly off into the air and into the other part of the stage and then wall run on the air.
To say that Unleashed is a shit game in general without looking at what it can do well is like saying that Super Metroid is shitty because it doesn't have combat on par with DMC. Judge a game by all of it's aspects rather than just saying that it's shit because you don't like it.
kek, blown the fuck out
blue revolution is coming to pc anon
Was that actually Roger in a sonic costume? still, i'm glad they confirmed the chaos emeralds don't exist in boom's universe, Boom Sonic's reaction to Super Sonic was hilarious.
The problem is when you bring up things like "it's close to the games!" as if they're bad things, when they're not. Not being close to the games is how the comics became complete autistic bullcrap for so long.
I know. I used to enjoy getting a story with my sonic games. And i really enjoyed the cgi and story and cutscenes in unleashed too. Not like a post delay but at launch i loved the unleashed story. Did sonic team write that one? They need to fire these clowns and write the stories themselves
At their absolute worst, even something as stupid as 06 doesn't have anything close to what the Archie comics put out for years when they had no quality control. And that's picking out the worst game writing.
Get the first one pham, its really good too. I have transformed on pc but my gaming pc has been dead for months so im stuck on a shitty laptop. I feel like theres nothing to play on pc so i just use my ps4 or hook up older consoles and play those.
>Sonic is literally the only franchise where the player being shit is considered the game's fault.
Do we need to dig up the Wonderful 101 video again
One of the employees posted it themselves on the SEGA forums.
S0L his name was, I believe.
He also said a few other interesting things like Vectorman rights were skewed, TJ&E rights also, and Crazy Taxi creators only request was "make his car cool". Also, pretty much everything they do is in the hands of SEGA, all Sumo can do is pitch.
No doubt '06 writing was terrible, but if you honestly think think lost world or unleashed or world rings or wtf ever translates into a good comic arc, even with the shit they try to add in, then well good for you. But the stories are terrible, keep reading if you enjoy it, I simply can not
Think about what sonic is
A blue hedgehog racing around surreal bizarre worlds to save animals captured by a fat mad scientist with an iq of 300. The very premise of sonic is strange and makes no sense. Since his career he has been a knight, a werehog, and raced in a car. It doesnt matter because the character is flexible and can easily adapt to different roles and settings
Battling a dead scientists experiment (biolizard) or destroying a god of darkness at the center of the earth (dark gaia) makes for a much more interesting and exciting story and scenes than just static jokes with tails or baldy mcnosehair. Come on man. Colors, generations, and lost world have fucking boring stories. Unleashed is the last well written entertaining sonic story.
Unleashed is a trip around the world to stop a big monster which is a perfectly serviceable story. Hell, Unleashed's writing is fine even in the game. Lost World is a goddamn mess, but "six oni want to eat Sonic" is not a hard arc to make work and it's creative in a way the old book usually wasn't.
I know a lot of people feel all "no, sonic games arent meant to be serious its about a blue hedgehog!" but they've already gone down that route and to be honest, it's not so bad.
all this joking was pretty ok at first, but they're leaving way too many interesting, fun characters in the dust because of it.
What's going on in the unleashed arc now? Last I checked Sonic and Rotor ran into Rotor's dad and he turned out to be an Eggman flunkie then Sonic turned werehog and they busted out of the place while saving some humans. Then we switched over to Silver's era and he met this cutie named Gold and that guy from the AoSH Sonic and they now have to deal with a time eater like monster that came out of a genesis portal and I think the Babaylon rogues just got their asses beat by another eggman flunkie who looks like a peligan in a pirate hat.
It was either a review or a gameplay video on IGN around the time the game released. The player as shown in that gif, reaches his hand out (in real life) for imaginary roses (on the screen), has difficulty drawing a basic circle, is completely incapable of drawing a straight line until the Nintendo rep takes the controller from him and does it for him. I believe they later reviewed the game claiming it was too hard.
GIVE IT TO ME, SEGA.
>Unleashed writing is fine in even in the game
What writing? The whole games story is nothing but a premise, there is no real story development other than the beginning and the end. So the comics try and jazz it up a bit, but they're not doing a good job. I don't know why you keep trying to convince me, it's not like I haven't been giving the reboot a chance, I've read them all other than like the last 4 issues, and I haven't read the latest crossover because it also looked like shit.
The reboot is not good. That is my opinion. The story is cheesy, the pacing is slow, and the writers don't seem to know what they want to do with any of it. As I said, it seems like they are winging it more than anything. If you like it, that's fine, but their is an obvious decline in quality that I'm envious of you for not seeing.
Exactly. I mean most people would rather have an adventure/unleashed style story of racing around the world to fix it over a colors/lost world (generations has a terrible story but i can forgive it since the subject of time travel and voicing classic sonic is hard to properly handle) styled story where fucking nothing but jokes and cringe happens.
They ran across an Egg Boss and Freedom Fighter splinter faction who are working together to keep a forced power balance because they think it'll keep their home region stable and relatively peaceful. If you read the comics pre-reboot, think of what was going on with the Downunda Freedom Fighters during the first Sonic Universe Knuckles arc. Silver Age finished, next Universe arc is supposed to be centered around Eggman and his Egg Bosses fighting the Naugus and Wendy Witchcart.
Nobody's bitching that you think the comics are shit. That's your opinion.
But saying that a licensed comic shouldn't be close to the source material is fucking retarded and you're stupid for thinking so.
>Think about what sonic is
A blue anthropomorphic hedgehog with super speed and an attitude who likes stopping the evil machinations of an evil scientist who is trying to dominate the world.
That's what sonic should have stayed as only going as far as Sonic Rush in terms of depth and story. Going further in and bringing over the top elements like Gods and ancients is just jumping the shark even for this series and more often than not leaves a disjointed feeling between what the characters and the tone of the story. A lot of the more serious Sonic stories have been really bad and aside from the initial rocky jump to 3D are probably one of the few things throwing sonic down the shitter lately, it's like throwing Johnny Test into something like the Matrix while trying to keep both of them the same. It just doesn't work.
The source material is literally shit. If you want to defend it so badly I can only assume you are a die hard sonic autist with extreme shit taste. The blue arms must have rustled your jimmies hard.
>still no sources on blue revolution coming to PC
Sony ALWAYS wins, baby.
You think so? I gotta disagree. I really liked the tone of adventure 1 (though im not sure if it was intentional or just because of that mysterious, kind of scary feeling early 3d games had) and the ending provided a great sense of "shits going down". Adventure 2 it started getting edgy and making the matters of humanity more personal. It felt edgier but sillier at the same time, compared to adventure 1 and its mysterious and dark with moments of lightheartedness thrown around frquenently.
Heroes ditched both of these themes and went for a simple story that worked enough to carry the game. Colors did the same thing.
Sonic 06 is a mess on all fronts and clearly unfinished, so i dont think its fair to fully judge it. What was released on the disc though, is fanfiction tier that was trying to recapture that dark tone the adventure games had.
Unleashed, to me, striked the perfect balance of silliness while still providing high stakes drama and events. The plot was fixing up the world and restoring continents after a literal dark god was unsealed, but a lot of the cutscenes between that was sonic and chip learning about each other, sonic accepting that he transformed, professor pickle and tails shenangins, amy wandering around looking for sonic, sonic and tails talking about ending it. The ending of unleashed still, thanks to all the great buildup and premise, was delivered fantastically and felt like a real finisher.
I dont remember lost world well enough to comment on that. I rushed through it, ignored cutscenes, didnt replay or bother to fix low scores etc. But i do know that unleashed has my favorite story in sonic with adventure 1 right behind it.
Sonic has only had two good console games and a handful of good handheld ones with a bunch of mediocrity in-between.
How is that good?
This coming from someone who's first game was Sonic 2.
>being this mad over a reaction image
Does it hit too close to home?
I would assume SEGA since Bluesky went down, but i'm not sure why they brought up rights and all that. It could just be one main guy holding onto it for whatever reason.
How's that going?
>I dont remember lost world well enough to comment on that.
The gist is
>sonic thwarting eggman once again
>discover lost hex as new eggmanBase area
>eggman has a team working for him
>sonic kicks away the thing controlling them
>eggman usurped earth being drained of life energy
>eggman tags along to stop his machine and sonic agrees with it
>tails takes offense because it implies sonic didn't believe tails could handle it
>tails is kidnapped
>zeti attempt to brainwash tails through machine arguments and such
>tails being a genius acts sabotages that plan but acts like he was under their control
>tails gets back to sonic and they make up
>zeti defeated eggman pulls a double cross
I suppose it's a bit late to post this, but fuck it.
I ALWAYS thought it was an edited video, until I seen the guy actually leaning on the divider and pantomiming that he was walking.
Oh that sounds about right. yeah I dont know what it is with these nintendo Sonics, but theyre just so fucking boring. I had to force myself to finish colors and I dreaded playing through lost world because of all the trash levels and bad story. Havent touched secret rings outside of the first few levels. No plans to ever play black knight. Dont get me started on sonic boom.
Sonic just seems...to go to shit whenever its stuck on a nintendo. A lot of things do but Sonic is my favorite series so it hurts.
>o say that Unleashed is a shit game in general without looking at what it can do well is like saying that Super Metroid is shitty because it doesn't have combat on par with DMC.
They're not even remotely similar in terms of gameplay style and tone though.
>Sonic just seems...to go to shit whenever its stuck on a nintendo.
You say that but the best Modern Sonic games have been on Nintendo platforms.
You have to remember that sonic ease never about a grandiose plot but mechanics that made you feel like you're going fast but still completely in control with an added high score feature or two.
It should be what you can do within the game that keeps you interested rather than the need to know a story.
Oh i see, never played kid icarus and I found smash brothers to be really boring to play. Maybe if i was a nintendo fan I would care more about it but I dont care for any of the characters and the fighting was really basic. Not even werehog tier, but just up/down/left/right a and b attacks forever and mashing the right stick.
It just wasnt fun for me idk and the characters dont mean squat to me since i didnt grow up with them.
No its not. The adventure games are flawed but decent and were dreamcast games with gamecube and pc ports. Heroes is the same case, flawed but really fun when it works right and multiplat. Sonic 2006 was a blunder but no one could have foretold that happening. Sonic unleashed - best 3D Sonic to date. Generations, a fantastic anniversary and nostalgia game. Most sonic games have those features youre talking about so I dont know why you bring that up like only the nintendo sonics do.
>is like saying that Super Metroid is shitty because it doesn't have combat on par with DMC
Shit, now you've really changed my outlook on things.
The example was shitty, but whatever.
The point is that you can't say the game is shit just because it doesn't appeal to you. Sonic is, nowadays anyway, about going fast and getting better times. While they used to be about keeping momentum and finding the best path (and while Gens does do a good job of keeping to this ideaology for both Classic and Modern Sonic), the best ways to get good times is by simply breaking the game and abusing physics (this was also true in the Genesis games, although their speedruns are more about glitching through a wall and going to the end that way).
I selected Rooftop Run as the stage was shared, and had some similar parts.
The Chemical Plant and Seaside Hill speedruns are quite impressive though. Chemical Plant has a pretty decent skip, and Seaside Hill is literally just "bro just go around the stage".
Personally don't like the runner too much, as he acted like a self-entitled ass for badly modding in 06 stages, but whatever.
Posting them because they're short and interesting to watch.
I believe he's just skipping the trigger to load in the next chunk of the stage.
The Hedgehog Engine (that's the graphical engine, it's actually quite intreresting) loads the stages in chunks, if I remember correctly. I'm guessing there's a trigger at points to load the stage, and since he's just simply bypassing the whole thing altogether, and because Sonic Team weren't expecting people to do that, the stage simply doesn't load in until he hits the next trigger.
For Chemical Plant, I'm guessing it's the same thing. He goes fast enough to fly off when he hits the ramp, and is then fast enough to bypass whole chunks of the stage, comes back onto it, and then hits the next trigger to load in the next chunk of the stage.
I don't exactly know how rendering works in Generations, so I can't really comment much, but the same thing kind of happens in Unleashed, although it eventually does appear once you get close enough. I'm guessing this was a form of optimization, and ST weren't expecting speedrunners to completely break the rendering.
No, it's a bad game. More than half of the game is the shitty werehog stuff, with braindead combat and stupidly simple platforming. The daytime stuff is better but only like a third of the levels are any good, and they all have awful 2D sections. Then there's all the bullshit padding and the terrible story. It's better than pure garbage like 06 and Boom but it's still a bad game.
Probably the Comics, after the end of the interdimensional crossover where Sticks was part of she was telling the crew about her adventure and everyone was pretty much telling her that she was full of shit.
Indeed, it felt as if Kishi was either to much of a pussy to go all the way or his editor forced him to.
I mean IMO it kinda goes against the message of the story to have made Sakura, Salad's biological mom.
Ken Penders please go
Yes sir you are correct. They do have a lot of that to trigger removing LOD models for levels like spagonia and city escape.
Thats funny since most Sonic games have this shit. SA2 SA held back by shitty gameplay modes for the other characters same with 06 except it was even more glitchy. Unleashed is the only game in recent years to not be super broken and fall through a stage unless you know how to M Speed.
Go and relook at all the levels before you say shit about werehog being more then half the game. Irritates the shit out of me you guys can't count. Besides werehog levels aren't that long unless you stopped to fight every enemy since you don't in most cases unless the camera shows you are blocked off.
I don't see people complaining about the mod for Generations that ported the Unleashed levels still the same shit just a tad different physics. I'm guessing you didn't bother to look at the combo list and just mashed like a idiot. Since there are actual moves in that game that help speed up platforming and have you move quick.
Be honest Unleashed is what started setting 3d Sonic right in the first place. Since people enjoyed Sonic Colors and Generations.
And yeah its not bad as Sonic 06 or Boom but it has a much more complete cinematic story then Colors or Generations without being cringey. And its not stupidly serious like Sonic 06's story.
Look I'm not saying Unleashed is the best sonic game but you make it seem like its dogshit when its really not the case. People just look at the bad and try to make a huge deal about it. More than half of the side shit in that game you don't even have to worry about.
Honestly I say the game was held back by terrible hardware and they didn't optmize it enough to work perfectly. Which is why the fps drops are terrible in ps3 version. Hopefully we get a PC version where people will give it a 2nd chance to play it properly.
From left to right
>what Sonic was and should be
>what Sonic became
>what Sonic is now
I'm glad I didn't turn into a CWC though despite Sonic being one of my favorite childhood games. I was a Genesis kid. No SNES for me. My friend down the street had one so I felt no need to have one myself.
I bought my brother unleashed and generations for his birthday back in 2012 when he started getting into sonic. He was in 3rd grade at the time. He fucking loved them so hard and I ended up loving them too.
I later took it upon myself to buy him a wii u with lost world and I noticed he didnt play it as much after beating it. I played through that one and could see why. Im sorry for doing that to you brother. You deserve better. I hope this years sonic game is good just so I can see him have that much fun again like he did with unleashed and gens.
Things I'm excited for:
>Another Generations with more levels
>More Classic Sonic, Hopefully classic Knuckles joins the fray.
>It's actually been a pretty long time since we've seen Modern Sonic, will be relieving to see the mainline series back.
>On off chance, would be great to see more classic era characters return like the Chaotix did for Heroes (Nack, Mighty, Ray, Bean, Bark)
>Holding out hope for more handheld representation. Sonic Advance levels, Emerl/Gemerl, Game Gear throwbacks
Things I'm worried about:
>Boom being present in that promo art makes me SUPER WORRIED.
>While Generations was the shit, theres only been Lost World and Boom since then. Not much has been added.
>It would feel kind of bittersweet that the best two Sonic games in the last few years are essentially "best of" albums.
>Sonic Team has been really quiet...that's always terrifying.
>SA2 SA held back by shitty gameplay modes
The majority of the gameplay styles in the Adventure games weren't nearly as bad as the werehog. The only ones that are as bad were Big's stuff and the SA2 Knuckles/Rouge stages, and they took up far less time than the werehog shit.
>Go and relook at all the levels before you say shit about werehog being more then half the game.
I'm not talking about level count, I'm talking about play time. You spend more than half of the game's play time as the werehog.
>I don't see people complaining about the mod for Generations that ported the Unleashed levels
No shit because that cuts out all of the bullshit filler. And even then only a handful of the levels are any good.
>I'm guessing you didn't bother to look at the combo list and just mashed like a idiot. Since there are actual moves in that game that help speed up platforming and have you move quick.
It's still simple, boring, and tedious to play. And all of the combat moves in the world do mean a thing if the enemies don't put up a fight. If you found the werehog sections acceptable then you either never played a game with decent combat or have ridiculously low standards.
>Be honest Unleashed is what started setting 3d Sonic right in the first place. Since people enjoyed Sonic Colors and Generations.
People enjoyed the superior follow ups that fixed Unleashed's problems, yeah. People also enjoyed the Adventure games which handled 3D Sonic far better than Unleashed. And even those didn't get it completely right.
>it has a much more complete cinematic story then Colors or Generations without being cringey.
>without being cringey
Holy fuck you are delusional.
>Look I'm not saying Unleashed is the best sonic game but you make it seem like its dogshit when its really not the case. People just look at the bad and try to make a huge deal about it.
Because the bad stuff greatly outweighs the good, and it's a bad game overall.
Not really. If you get hired on to play an iconic character you're going to look at what they sounded like previously and try to sound like it.
Most of the new voice cast do that.
So why the fuck did Sega stop making games like Colors and Generations again? They had finally found a way to make 3D Sonic games that were not complete trash, and they decided "fuck it, let's try and make Sonic Galaxy, and then reboot the entire franchise with Boom"?