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So is it censored or what?
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>took out skinship minigame
>covered f corrin's thighs
>the shots of some scenes with camilla are changed so that the player sees less cleavage
that's what we know so far
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Why do you care about post 13 Fire Emblem?
>Waifus in, gameplay and good storytelling out
I want neo-/v/ to leave
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>>323551862
Anon, you are the neo-/v/
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So far, you can't date your little sisters.
They took out the bathhouse and censored the clothes.
They took out the rubbing mini game because it was considered too creepy

Not sure about anything else OP
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>>323551915
t. Neo-/v/
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>>323551765
>>323552039
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>>323551765
>>323552039
Oh so we're doing this?
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>>323552039
>>323551765
Source? I don't doubt you guys,just want to be sure before I cancel my preorder.
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>>323552230
The Camilla thing is a blatant lie, anon. Her outfit is intact on the English website and in the most recent gameplay videos from GameExplain and IGN. Do some research. We no official information on the extent of censorship.
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>>323551765
>>323552039

IT JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR

I THOUGHT NINTENDO CARED ABOUT US GAMERS
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They took out the violence in the game, said it promoted race wars.
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Also neo Fire Emblem already has a thread
>>323510812
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GEEEZ THANKS A LOT NINTENDO OF AMERICA. WHY DON'T YOU JUST ALIENATE US ALL WITH YOUR SJW BULLSHIT
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>>323551620
Censored with no dual audio
also.. MEMES

Thanks Treehouse and NOA
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>>323552352
That her clothes are intact doesn't mean angles in cutscenes weren't changed. Either way I'm waiting until we see solid evidence that the localization is fucked. Corrin's thighs in smash don't give me much hope.
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>>323552681
Did you not see what I said about the gameplay videos? Her outfit is intact in choice cutscene too.
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>>323552782
You are wrong you fucking retard, we haven't seen it
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>>323552625

IT JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR

REEEEEEEE
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>>323552948
Yes we have. We've seen the choice cutscene in English but here, let me help you:
https://youtu.be/Fs7voeTd-ZY?t=30m34s
There yo go. Camilla's outfit is fine.
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What will likely happen is the dialogue will get tone down through skinship and bath house outfits will get censored.

But you never know, NoA could be really evil and do more.
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Is there any scene in post Kaga Fire Emblem that is even a quarter as good as
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HNE87Taixc ?
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>>323551862
Oh the irony.
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>>323551620

ITT MY DAD WORKS FOR NINTENDO
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Meanwhile us sonybros get glorious lewd games uncensored :)
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>>323552948
I know that this thread is pretty much 90% shitposting but anon you really could have checked. An English gameplay video has been out for weeks and we see her outfit in it.
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If this turns out to be as heavily censored as I fear, I'm just giving up
If they're going to replace good gameplay and stories with waifus at least keep that fucking intact, otherwise we're left with nothing
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>>323553525

so did we what's your point?
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I'm just going to wait for the fan-translation to be less shit at this point.

There no point in rewarding these assholes money.
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>>323553525

>sony
>uncensored

Dungeon Travelers faggot
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>>323553685

Nobody cares about the mainline games fag

>mfw nintenfags will never EVER get another titty ninja
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>>323553768

>fan-translation
>full of memes
>supports aren't even close to done
>IK hasn't been touched
>Majiq Knight

stop shilling your shitty fan translation
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>>323553853

that's what was said when the burgerlanders only got the first game digitally.
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>>323553858

>Localization version
>Full of awful name changes
>Content seen as problematic being replaced or edited
>No dual audio

:^)
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>>323554013

>source
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>>323553949

SK2 flopped pretty hard and It's doing great on sony consoles.

Not sure why you'd think they make another one for it, but It's okay I won't judge you for being delusional.
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>>323554061

>I need a source to predict NoA being NoA

Simply epic
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>>323554013
>No dual audio
Why does this keep being brought up? Awakening had it, why wouldn't Fates?
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>>323554095

>multiplat
>wonder why it did better

k
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>>323554061
I'm an actual time traveling loli from the future and I know he's right. Screenshot this and soon you will see.
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>>323554216

because /a/fags were buttblasted that their A-List Seiyuus were doing shit for this game.
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>>323554352

SV and EV did better then the nintendo senrans

No need to be angry anon!
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Isn't it kind of worrying how Fire Emblem is sort of mirroring Shinning Force now? Both were worrying about losing relevant at large, so they decided to go for a change in art style and more "pendering" route with the games and now it's affecting the franchise in a negative way.
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>>323554469

why be angry about happy boobs? I love them all equally! except Bon Appetite fuck that game
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>>323554516

>they decided to go for a change in art style and more "pandering" route with the games and now it's affecting the franchise in a negative way.
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>>323554516
>Gameplay among the best it has been
>Medieval setting still intact, stories still similar to how they were before
>A different character designer means everything is bad
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>>323554095
Shame on you
Senrans are not for console war shitposting
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>/v/ constantly circle jerks FE7-9
>those entries were censored to hell and back

Drink bleach
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>>323554814
Alright, I'm curious, how were they censored?
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>>323554814
>INB4 someone mentions that the localization added in Lyn's tit bounce
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>>323554814

Did Ruthea being changed to Lucius make you enjoy FE7 any less? Did Cougar being changed to Cormag significantly change your experience of FE8? Did Muddy being changed to Mordecai negatively affect your playthrough of FE9?
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>>323554718
>>Gameplay among the best it has been
Is this bait?
The rest of your post is agreeable
but what
have you even played any other FE games
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>>323555150
He's more than likely talking about Nohr, but it can be taken a controversial statement either way depending on your gameplay preferences.
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>>323554910
>name changes
>script rewrites
>some classes were buffed making the games easier than they already are
>voices removed
>difficulty option removed

The last 2 are specific to 9
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>>323555150
6 and onwards. I wasn't referring to Awakening when I mentioned the gameplay. Fates fixed a lot of Awakening's flaws.
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>>323554814

The forging system in Radiant Dawn was cut in the localization.

Did you know that, no.
Did it affect your plaything, no.

Take your own advice before you spew shit.
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>>323554516
>"pandering"

Even if you put it between quotation marks, your statement still doesn't make any sense.

If it's affecting the franchise in a negative way, not really, FE never had more exposition until now, so the franchise is doing fine.

Now, if you are talking about the quality of the games and if they are what a long time fan would like, yeah, we might have a problem there.
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>>323554718
The gameplay is the only thing it has going on for it now.
It's still medieval, yes, but a lot more modern anime fantasy than before.
Character designer is the biggest thing that killed Shinning Force, and it could very well happen to FE since the circumstances are the same.
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>>323555105
>Did Ruthea being changed to Lucius make you enjoy FE7 any less?
Okay this is an improvement.
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>not downgrading your 3ds and pirating it

cmon /v/ it's so fucking easy you just need a brain and an sd card
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>>323555441
I waiting for them to complete the supports
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>>323555441

>c'mon download our shitty fanslation and give us attention fuck nintendo guise amirite?
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>>323555265
Is this about to swing this thread into a "All localization is censhorship!" debate? Should I get a snack?
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>>323553858
>Source: My Ass
IK's been translated already
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>>323555542

you can always do it and then wait for the official US release
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>>323555441
That's not true, you also need to something that reads SD cards, which I don't have
Fortunately I'm a NEET and my parent's laptop is the only thing in my house with that ability
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>People genuinely saying they will cancel their preorder if things have been censored.

Fuck sake, do you think Nintendo are worried about losing a bunch of fat neck bears who cry over their Waifu being downgraded in the game?

While I admit censoring things is over the top, it's hardly a deal breaker. If the game itself is good then I'll buy it. I've not read up much on the gameplay yet but I'll probably read up shortly prior to release over here so I can decide whether to get it or not.
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>>323555548
If name changes are fuel for the censorshitposters then everything is fair game
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>>323555548
script rewrites and changing game balance (unless it's fixing something truly problematic in the game's design, not lowering the difficulty because you underestimate the intelligence of the audience) shouldn't be accepted as ok.
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>>323555542
trreehouse has already shown that they are rewriting characters personalities
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>>323555268
ah thats good to hear
sad that my immediate jumped to conclusion is that no one ever fixes things when they make them too easy
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>>323555310
Not him but I feel this is a rather redundant argument
Yeah we didnt know so we didnt/couldn't care
Now we do though and turns out, attraktive least some people care
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>>323555737
Whose?
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>>323554814

HEy did you know in the japanese version of Awakening you can choose to not have a voice and be a mute for the whole game. Dialogue significantly changed as a result and made the protagonist a lot better.

But no let's not complain about that let's complain about name changes and a dark sorcerers's ass being covered by a cloth.
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>>323555548
>not all localization is censorship
But why lie to yourself?
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>>323555696
not just name changes but whole script changes
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>>323555737

>source
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How's Lunatic in Fates? I really hated it in Awakening because you either got your ass beat by playing normally (ie using lots of units and distributing exp) or it was completely trivial if you just levelled 2 or 3 units and have them solo the entire game
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>>323555752

this game came out in 2009. we had internet we could have found out easily. no we're exhibiting short term memory because it is convenient
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>>323555967
Lunatic wasn't so bad. I mean it was tough but nowhere near as bad as Lunatic+
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>>323554216
We all thought Xenoblade X would have dual audio because the previous one did. I'm not saying it's the same thing but with Nintendo anything can happen.
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>>323556079

yeah

though Lunatic+ was a complete other level of bullshit that I don't think even the most masochistic of people enjoyed
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>>323556000
Yes we could have
But we didnt, at least Ive never seen people talk about it
Things are Differenz with Fates though and how we perceived RD doesn't affect that
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>>323555647
No I don't think they will care. The game will sell great, censored or not. I'm not paying 80$ for butchered games though.
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>The ability to assign the tactician a blood type was cut, since blood type is significantly less important in western culture than it is in Japan. Its effect on determining the tactician's affinity was removed and affinity is now decided only by birth month.

>The terrain bonuses granted by gates and thrones were reduced.

>The effective damage multiplier applied to weapon might was reduced in most cases.
>Lyn as a Blade Lord will use her normal battle sprites and animations when wielding the Sol Katti. The localization added a unique set of Sol Katti animations.

>Many bosses had their stats slightly lowered.

>In Chapter 27E/29H, the bosses Lloyd and Linus both wield Runeswords in the NTSC-J version. The localization changed this to give them Light Brands, although Nils's augury for the chapter ("I sense a dire foe in the battle ahead. The weapon he wields is cursed. A sword that steals life energies and feeds them to its wielder.") was not changed to reflect this.

>In the Final Chapter, two doors open at the end of every second turn in the NTSC-J version, and both Uhai and Kenneth's rooms are open at the start of the chapter. The localization changed this to open one door at the end of every turn and to have only Uhai's room is open at the start.

>Lyn's age was increased by editing by editing one line from Sain in Chapter 1, going from 15 years old in the Japanese script to 18 years old in localized scripts. Similarly, her mother Madelyn is said to have abandoned Caelin 19 years prior to the game's events in the localizations, instead of just 16 years prior as in Japanese. However, Wallace and Kent's C-rank support conversation was not edited to reflect this, and still claims that Madelyn and Hassar eloped 17 years prior to Eliwood/Hector's story; the correct figure according to the localization should be 20 years prior.
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>>323556809
Apart from the last one that all sounds like balancing.
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>>323557079
I just took gameplay changes.
And FE7 did not need 'balancing' that was dumbing the game down for Americans.
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>>323553212
Great. I'll buy it.
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>>323551765
f-corrin was fucking NoE.
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>>323551765
>>323558248
Pretty sure the Corrin thing is Smash only.
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>>323558430
This, because Smash has a manipulatable camera.
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Why do we care about censorship again?
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>>323558596
why wouldn't we?
I mean I know this is bait but whatever
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>>323558596
I'm a braindead bastard that enjoys games being absent of challenge and I'm also scared of boobs, so I don't.
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>>323559254
Hey, boobs are scary man.
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>Boobs get removed from Nintendo game
>Localization

>Homosexuality gets removed from Nintendo
>Censorship
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You Americans and your Feminist pandering make it bad for us all.
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DO NOT BUY THIS GAME UNTIL A WEEK AFTER RELEASE.

DO NOT PRE-ORDER.

NINTENDO IS PAYING OFF REVIEWERS AND SITES TO HIDE NEWS OF CENSORED CONTENT.

DO NOT BUY CENSORED GAMES.
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did any of you cucks buy Xenoblade Chronicles X?
why?
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>>323552681
That's because f-corrin's smash model is an edit of m-corrin's
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>>323560770
I was gonna buy a wii u for it but then I saw the censorship and opted out
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>>323560703
They did the same thing with Xenoblade, the embargos were tight as fuck and only 8/10 or higher reviews were allowed to be printed early.
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>>323553853
>Nobody cares about the mainline games fag

SK2 is still the only game in the series with half-decent gameplay.
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>>323560770

I'm using the uncensored version on my 5.3.2 Wii U.

>>323560703

If it's anything like fatal frame, we're not going to hear anything about censorship until smaller niche reviewers get their hands on it.
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Oi Gringos sign this
https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-do-not-censor-fire-emblem-fates-for-it-s-worldwide-release
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>>323560770
Bought the Jap version on release because I enjoyed Xenoblade. It was great.
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>>323561834
Game is already done. It's just waiting to be shipped.
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Waiting for the localization uncensor/undub/name revert patch.

If you were smart you'd do it too.
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>>323562286
If you were smart you'd already have learned moon and finished the game.
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So everyone is complaining that the gameplay and story has been stripped out, making it nothing but Moe pseudo-incest to entice gamers.

BUT it will all also be censored to shit, due to:

>the removal of one slider in a JPRG to make a female character's boobs bigger
>horror game that has the no doubt underage main characters in lingerie, for some ungodly reason.
>A Persona Fire Emblem game where they changed a woman from wearing hotpants to much more sensible clothing. Because god forbid.

If you ask me, I'm glad these games are being censored. It's making the perverts butthurt, and that makes me kek.

>inb4 underage, I am a straight male in my early 30's
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>>323562286
>false flag
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>>323562618
I too love it when a major corporation upsets people for no good reason.
Isn't it fun my edgy friend?
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>>323562618
Yea but if it removes story and gameplay to make it nothing but Moe pseudo-incest to entice gamers then why do they censor it as well? That is something that neither party wants because it pleases no one.
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>>323562701
Script won't be stilted and amateur, all censorship will be removed, if there's no dual audio the jap voices will be added, names that annoy you will be changed back.

Don't see how it won't be better unless you're bothered the fan patch will fall out of use/relevance.
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>>323562789

I think it's more that it shows how entitled the gaming market is. And how quickly they will turn away from a product because of some minor cutscene or feature taken out that ultimately has no impact on the overall gameplay.
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>>323562286
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>That feeling when Nintendo finds out about the fan patch and issues a Cease and Desist order
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>>323562286
I'll still play the localized version, I just won't pay for it.
>>323563068
>people don't wanna spend their hard earned money on a gimped product
How entitled
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>>323560703
>>NINTENDO IS PAYING OFF REVIEWERS AND SITES TO HIDE NEWS OF CENSORED CONTENT.
They don't have to spend a dime on that, nobody gives as much a shit about this stuff as you people do.
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>>323563068
Yup yup, let's not forget how they also feel so entitled to games which aren't broken messes full of bugs and how they feel entitled to owning the games that they buy without needing to spend double on DLC just to get the full game.
This childish entitlement is ruining the industry.
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>>323563104
>he doesn't know they did the same for xenoblade x
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>>323563068
>entitled
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>>323562286
That's odd I''m playing the fan translation I see no memes
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>>323552039
Don't believe a word these retards said. the bathouse was shown in the IGN coverage
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>>323563254

Exactly! so how about we all just playing these childish toys and worry about getting educations and bettering ourselves instead of just needing to smoke the shit coming out of the crack dealer's butt.

Maybe we as gamers should clean ourselves up and take a hard look at our lives and think that this is really stupid.
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>>323563473
There's no way I'm buying this game if it has a bath house in it, that offends me.
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>>323563473
they are defiantly going to censor the dialog in the bathhouse
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>>323563612
why? how bad does it get?
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>>323563612
>defiantly
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>>323563778
I hate auto correct
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>>323563068
Yeah man why can't everyone just pay for inferior products?
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>>323563018
>Script won't be stilted and amateur,

MY BODY IS REGGIE IS LITERALLY IN THE FANTRANSLATION
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>>323563778
Well, they're not doing it submissively :^)
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>>323563018
>Script won't be stilted and amateur,

so were getting treehouse fanfiction?
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>>323564002
I.. don't know what point you're trying to make?

If anything that harms the fan translation even more..?
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>>323555816
When the localization process changes a Japanese pop culture reference to a pop culture reference for the new audience, it's not censorship.

When nip nonsense like the clumsy maid's exclamation of "awawawawa!" Is changed to something emotionally equivalent but understandable for the new audience, it's not censorship.

Writing dog-killing or incest out of the script because it's "unacceptable" or "offensive" in someone's opinion for the new audience is censorship.
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(lol
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>>323564002
proof?
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>>323563612
We don't know that yet. Awakening had some fairly risque dialogue at points (e.g tharja's "boingy bits" in the summer scramble dlc) you people are being too paranoid
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>>323564071

>OUR FAN TRANSLATION WON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE THE NOA LOCALIZATION DOES LIKE CENSORSHIP, MEMES, AND CHANGES PERSONALITIES
>does just that
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>>323564195
that was censored in the EU version
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>>323564071
>>323564138
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>>323564075
>Writing dog-killing or incest out of the script because it's "unacceptable" or "offensive" in someone's opinion for the new audience is censorship.
>DIE DIE EVERYONE WILL DIE I LOVE BATHING IN THE BLOOD OF MY FOES
>oh but euthanize that dog i don't want him to suffer

NoA was right.
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>>323564075
Not that guy but
>When the localization process changes a Japanese pop culture reference to a pop culture reference for the new audience
Is definitely censorship. Localisers are always afraid that their audience knows zero about other Japanese media and it really warps the experience when they stick some Western shit in there.
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>>323563979

How about you ask the auto industry that question? Or the pharmaceutical industry? Or pretty much every industry ever?
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People are just mad that the fan translation didn't turn out to be the "based anti-treehouse alternative" didn't turn out like their high expectations had hoped.

Which was stupid because that translation begun in the summer with the sole purpose of "beating the treehouse" rather than for the sake of "avoiding censorship/memes", the latter was not the case until the fall where they used as an motivation to continue the project rather than outright censor it in order to gain brownie points from the Fire Emblem and greater Nintendo community.

But then they did no proofreading or playtesting and released a rushed patch just to say they had the game out first before the treehouse, thereby ruining their credibility for future projects (lol
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>>323564195
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>there are people that think the japanese release is uncensored
>they aren't even aware of boardroom politics that go on to make sure the game gets the lowest rating possible under CERO guidelines

You guys crack me up.
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>>323564436
>outright censor
outright cancel**
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>>323564417
No, it's not. 90% of Western audiences don't know about weeb culture you weeb.

The exception should be when the game is blatantly targeted to the niche audience that would understand.
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>>323564075
>Writing dog-killing or incest out of the script because it's "unacceptable" or "offensive" in someone's opinion for the new audience is censorship.
most localisations do this to some degree, mostly in the form of removing offhand risqué jokes
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>>323564301
that looks like FE:A
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>>323564195
>they changed Nah's father support from implying that he likes lolis to getting her pregnant

I don't understand them sometimes
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>>323564417
le ace attorney face
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>>323564573
It is.
That's the official translator's work.
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>>323564417

This isn't changing rice balls to jelly donuts 4Kids levels of retarded localization.

This is HEY LET'S REFERENCE A POP IDOL NO ONE OUTSIDE OF MOONLAND WILL GET! levels.

Get off your high horse just because your weeb ass gets it doesn't mean 99.9% of everyone else playing it will.
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>>323564516
>source: my ass
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>>323564637
That's great honey but the original topic was about Fates not Awakening and about the fan translation not the official one. Keep up.
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>>323564637
I hate that I even brought that game never again will I pay for memes
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>>323564669
From the 25th Anniversary Artbook.

They had to censor Camilla's cutscene just to retain the rating they have now.
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DURR why do we have to pay full price for inferior products?

So companies can make more money while cutting corners and it doesn't matter. People buy the shit out of these games anyway.
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>>323564726
Are you trying to say there's any discernible difference between a fan translation and an official one?
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Can someone confirm if there's memes in the fan translation?
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>>323564253
Yuropoors BTFO then
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>>323564917
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>>323564667
Honestly though, I'm not from Japan so I've never even seen a rice ball before, I had no idea what one was until I saw these kind of threads that complain about it. I know what a donut is so that makes sense to me.
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>>323565003
>I'm not from Japan so I've never even seen a rice ball before,
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>>323560770
It's fun. I don't care that the battle mechs were renamed Skell from Doll or that I can't see an ugly 13-year-old in skimpy outfits without underclothes.

The removal of the boobslider and the complete retardation the prompted the change of the fundoshi suck, but not enough to ruin the game.

>inb4 it's the principle of the thing!
>supporting censorship
I can't learn Japanese and the end of censorship isn't going to start with me or the small number people boycotting censored games.
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>>323564516
Care to elaborate?
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>>323565003
Nigga, I knew what a rice ball was when I was fucking 8 and I even I thought that "jelly donut" shit at the time was dumb.

Get out from under that rock
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>fan translation is unproofread rushed memeshit
>localization is CENSORED


IT'S J U S T NOT FUCKING FAIR

WHY DIDN'T I JUST IMPORT?
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>>323564952
I don't think that's a place holder
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>>323565003
That doesn't mean you should call it something it's not.

Just be like "This food is delicious!" or something. Accomplishes the same thing without blatant lying in localization
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>>323565064
Just because you're a cuck with a craving for BBC doesn't mean everyone else should be too.
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>>323565203
>>fan translation is unproofread rushed memeshit

proof please
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>>323565003
>I know what a donut is so that makes sense to me.
But it didn't seem weird that the "donut" didn't look anything like a donut whatsoever?
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>>323565283
http://imgur.com/a/ZzA4v
not him but I have this
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>>323565064

I like your opinions and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
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>>323565064
Changing "Doll" to "Skell" isn't censorship, my dear newfag. That's localization.

The rest of your shit post, is, however.
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>>323565318
it looks like it needs editing which from What I've heard hasn't been done yet
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>>323565064
You are everything wrong with the industry and are ruining video games for everyone else just to serve your selfish wants.
Please off yourself in the most painful way you can at the most convenient opportunity.
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This game was censored so hard they removed all the content from it.
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>>323565064
that's nice buy why should we pay to have treehouse and 8-4 fuck us in the ass?
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>>323565445
>Changing "Doll" to "Skell" isn't censorship
They got rid of Doll because they thought it sounded creepy
It's censorship
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What are some games that had translations that were done RIGHT?
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>>323565502
>There exist people this autistic breathing the same air i do
I feel sick
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>>323565292
Not as weird as the concept of forming rice into a ball.
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>>323565748
Kill yourself
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>>323565732
Soma Bringer
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>tfw you can now pirate 3ds games and don't have to pay nintendo/treehouse a cent for this bullshit
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>>323565725

Proof or GTFO
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lewd skinship dialogue, literally all of it you would think it's from a hentai
dlc beach CG (NA only) because of tharja cover up
some support dialogue fixing gayness etc
swimsuits and any mildly lewd dialogue towards and from young looking characters
even thought not real incest they will tone it down because the avatar grew up with them as brother and sisters and they can fuck

also can fuck your cousin


awakening got censored with much less than this it will 100% get censored

>>323558509
so does this, you can zoom in on underboobs in the swimsuit etc
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>>323565318
>Princess Big Sister
Do they have the script only through Google was the translation?
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>>323565912
It's in one of the Treehouse streams from last year's E3. cba finding it but I think it was near the beginning iirc.
In any case, "Doll" is an English word, why would they change it apart from creepiness?
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>>323565995
The standards might be different since Awakening was 8-4 and Fates is Treehouse
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>>323551765
what is the skinship mini game?
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>>323566140
When you bathe with the lolis
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>>323565995
>also can fuck your cousin
This isn't directly mentioned in the Japanese version, it's something the player has to put together, no one comments on the relation or even picks it up (the characters are all really retarded tbqh).
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>>323566140
You rub the character's face to get them to like you faster, basically support grind.
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>>323566140
Pokemon amie,but with your units' faces.
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Why is it okay when skimpy costumes are cut from a game but not okay when homosexual relationships between men are cut from a game?
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>>323565064
Removing the boob slider implies that only one type a breast size exists, and I would say actually negatively impacts a player's experience. Any girl wanting to, say, design a character in their image wouldn't be able to because apparently boob sliders are "pervert nerd shit."

A 13 year old in "skimpy outfits" is only as bad as the person viewing it. I won't deny that it was put in as fan service, but it's not as if 13 year olds don't wear bikinis. And if you think that you should probably get out more.

I just find it mind boggling that people get so uptight about things that might be "too sexual" when violence and gore should be considered much worst.
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Are they R E A L L Y taking your games away?
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>>323566073

Well, I don't know. I don't find anything creepy about Doll being used.

Skell sounds cooler anyway, a robotic skeleton.

Besides, Doll, Gear, Guymelef, there's all sorts of names for "giant robot."
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>>323566287
>but not okay when homosexual relationships between men are cut from a game?
did this happen in Awakening or something?
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>>323566323
>DoAX3
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>>323566287
Homosexual relationships were among the first things NoA announced about Fates, NoJ didn't even comment on it whatsoever.
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>>323561124
I know right, like how IGN was literally the last people to review X and gave it a 8.2.
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Humor me guys, lets stick to facts here.
What do we know they changed for sure and is the reason they changed it viable?
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>>323565725
Wrong, retard. The name was changed because NoA didn't think teenage boy would like the idea of "playing with dolls" and wanted a more "cool sci-fi" name.
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>>323566286 >>323566251

I doubt they would remove that as as feature, but do we really care it sounds stupid, id rather them remove and add literally anything.
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>>323552230
>Source? I don't doubt you guys,just want to be sure before I cancel my preorder.

From what I've seen going around and in here, it appears nintendo is keeping it under wraps so that people don't call them out on their bullshit. You will have to buy the game first before you can pin point what went wrong. It's still censored but what and to what degree is mostly unknown so far. That's really shitty of Ninty to do that.
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>>323566495
>because NoA didn't think teenage boy would like the idea of "playing with dolls"...
...why? because it would sound creepy. use your brain for a second, it won't hurt you.
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>>323566528
well you shouldn't have expected a list of patch notes containing all the censorship changes for international release tbqh
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>>323566304

> 13 year olds don't wear bikinis. And if you think that, you should probably get out more.

What beaches have you been going to, anon?

>implying everyone lives on a coast
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>>323566439

You know, that reminds me. Why the fuck are companies so goddamn elusive and mysterious about this stuff? I mean, if you're going to chop content and censor things, just be blunt and honest with me. I'm going to be pissed either way, but at least being up front about it saves us all the trouble of waiting.
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>>323564952
The "(lol" seems to be a note the retarded TL put into the script expecting it to be removed in the editing process that never happened. I've seen similar notes appear in official game releases. That doesn't make a better than an added meme though.

>>323564917
There's the "feels good, man" screencap in the thread already. Its been mentioned that "my body is ready" is in it too, but haven't seen it myself.
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>>323566323
>The English version of DoAX3 is coming out in the Taipongaporese Islands but not the Cucked States of America
>This is not because of the culture that oppresses sexuality and shames anyone who admits to liking good looking women by calling them perverts or deviants
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>>323566612
You are a massive retard.
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>>323566484
Some of the names. That's really about it.
Some of the more "out there" ones:
Marx -> Xander
Revenant Knight -> Malig Knight (like malignant, I guess?)
Zero -> Niles
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>>323566573
Okay, soccer mom.
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>>323565995
Im buying conquest for the gayness, they better not remove it all.
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>>323566614
Oh yeah anon, that's a fucking great idea. Just do this big official press release and hand everyone present an organized list of what they're LITERALLY going to remove from [x] upcoming game and what they're going to change.

"OKAY GUYS HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM YOU IN THE LATEST XENO EMBLEM POKEMAN"
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>>323566359
>>323566439
When Nintendo yanks sexy costumes out of games the SJWs call it a minor edit to the game as a necessary part of localization.

When Nintendo fixes an unintended bug the SJWs call it censorship, oppression and bigotry.

I wish I was making this up too.
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>>323566140
>>323566525
you rub them and they make lewd noises

if you have s rank support it turns into hentai read

http://pastebin.com/4ZJpf2Xe all voiced dialogue
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>>323566803

>XENO EMBLEM POKEMAN
Smash 5 confirmed
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>>323566803
>>323566614
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>>323566821
>THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY
These buzzwords are fucking great, especially since homosex was literally bugged in that game.
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>>323566573
It's because despite what some people would want you to believe, nobody wants their son to grow up to be a butt fucking homo. Dolls = girl toys. There's no "creepiness" about it.
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>>323566590
>well you shouldn't have expected a list of patch notes containing all the censorship changes for international release tbqh

Unreleased games do have patch notes on what they change before release. Not all of them of course, since it's mostly tweaking and bug fixing. However, this is a big deal to me since knowing what they "localized" will directly affect my enjoyment of the game. I always want the better options, not the worse ones.
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>>323566876
Im getting conquest for the gay so hopefully i can doo it with him.
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>>323566484
We know absolutely nothing. everything you see and will see in these threads is speculation or shitposting.
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>>323566803

That's exaggerating it a bit, but come on. The fact remains that we WILL find out about cut content/censorship/etc at some point. Just being open about it (and giving a damn good reason why you did it) would at least save us the frustration of having to wait until release to figure out what's missing.
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>>323566073

>WHO WOULD WANT TO PILOT A MECH CALLED A DOLL THAT SOUND LAME AS SHIT> LET'S CALL IT A SKELL THAT SOUNDS COOL.
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>>323566821
>When Nintendo fixes an unintended bug the SJWs call it censorship
They called it a bad decision, nobody said it was "censorship" of the Jap version.
Hyperbolizing stuff to fit a story in your head just weakens your point anon.
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>>323566691
I they might have changed the script a bit I think someone posted a comparison between the fan translation and the scene from the newest trailer and they were completely different
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>>323566708
>>323566974
The gay shit was literally the first thing Treehouse announced about the game. Like, before we even got the dub trailer.
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>>323566304

>still perplexing that america makes tits taboo while glorifying it while violence in any amount is a-okay
>in america
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>>323566930
If that's the case then it's censorship

>>323567031
If that's the case then it's censorship
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>>323566982
What we know is that past performance is a solid indicator of future results.
You never know which horse is going to win a race yet they all have different odds, care to guess how they decide the odds?
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>>323567031
They probably only made they change so they could put Skelleton Crew in the game
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>>323567089
Probably as a response to how everyone overreacted to >>323566821
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>>323551862
Hahahahahah the delusion holy shit. Did you only play FE7 before awakening?
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>>323567089
I get a two in one, i can be a fag in a game and also play as the villain/anti hero for once.
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>>323567129
copy that
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>>323567174
It was also conveniently around the time gays could marry became a thing
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>>323567157

Not him, but I'm guessing the following:

>content like amie or outfits isn't cut
>dialog for amie is redone (to remove all the "throbbing thing" references, etc)
>incest is toned down by making it not as big of a deal, mentioning it less often, etc
>ages changed for characters like Elise and Sakura
>the memes
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Fuck fire emblem, it ruined smash bros.
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>>323567124
You're implying that I'm American
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>>323567031

does the ending reveal in Xeno X get changed at all because of this name change?
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>>323566708
I mean there's a support dialogue where you drug someone to fix their gayness to like males and then you fuck her

that will be changed
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>>323567476

Still mad about Corrin?
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>>323567465
>"throbbing thing" references
For real? No way cero would only give it a C-15 for that.
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>>323567551
>you drug someone to fix their gayness to like males and then you fuck her

wow someone missed the point of the support
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>>323567551
The character you're talking about isn't really gay. She just likes girls in the same flirtatious way that her father likes girls, but doesn't *like* *like* girls because of it.
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>>323567157
So? it's still speculation and shitposting. there's no facts yet,and that anon asked for the facts.
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>>323567704
http://pastebin.com/4ZJpf2Xe
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>>323567704

http://pastebin.com/WFZTdrKK

>It feels good there...
>It's no good if you do it like tha~t...
>Yeah, that's good... Pieri wants to touch you too...
>Your throbbing place, it looks like the flesh is tearing...
>Nn... my body's acting strange... somehow... it's getting hot...
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>>323567778
It's speculation.
But it's not baseless speculation.
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>>323567704
It's actually referring to the heart IIRC
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>>323551620
People bitching about the f-corrin outfit thighs in Smash are retarded. Smash is rated E so they had to censor it there. FE Fates is rated T so there's no issue.

Otherwise, we know very little about what's getting censored, we only know that it inevitably will be.
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>>323567972
And i never said anything about it being baseless.
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>>323567861
>>323567913
Pieri's fucking shit and worst girl and is a psychopath that literally murders her servants, just saying desu.
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>>323568071
>Smash is rated E so they had to censor it there.
Thighs are adult only now?
How the fuck did they sneak Shulk into the game then?
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good thing i downgraded my 3ds and can play it all for free uncensored with fan translation
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Hoshido Mode - Hoshido is justice. We get to slaughter everyone freely as we like because anyone who fights us is evil and any good people will break down crying about how right we are.

Nohr Mode - You're literally working for a king who wants you to suffer. Nearly every chapter has a cutaway showing how much a character likes making you suffer for picking Nohr. You still end up doing everything he wants though while crying the entire time

Invisible Kingdom Mode : Kira Yamato and Lacus Cylne unite to defeat both armies and bring everyone under their wing, they then jump into a hole in the ground and stop the evil mastermind dragon with the power of friendship
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>>323568071
Anon,have you ever pushed X or Y a bunch of times while selecting zero suit samus in smash bros? try it sometime
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>>323567913
>>323568005
How interesting
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>>323568071
Smash is rated e10+, it'd be allowed. It was likely Japan of all places that held it back for everyone since palutena got censored for showing leg in the jap release.
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Wait. Treehouse is localizing this, not 8-4?


Fucking hell. That's way worse.
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>>323567129
I assumed the Doll to Skell change wasn't about creepiness but about "coolness". The English name Doll, for the Japanese had a unique, cool sense about it and changing it to Skell was NoA's attempt to recreate that feeling for Americans.

In Fates, the Aqua to Azura should be the same case. Aqua is an exotic name to the Japanese, etc.

Unless a name is changed because it's deemed offensive, it's not censorship.
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>>323567913
>it looks like the flesh is tearing...
fucking sexy
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>>323568175

The worst part about her is that she doesn't pass her cotton candy hair color to her kids. She also notes in one of her supports that she just has brown hair and the pink/blue is dye.
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>>323567551
These are the bisexual charecters.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Zero in conguest
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Syalla in birthright
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>>323566803
That would be a good thing because then I wouldn't have to do much research before maybe giving NoA any of my money. I'd rather have NISA localize my Nintendo games at this point.
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>>323568371
The "coolness" argument was already established. There's no point in conversing with that retard.
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>>323567465
This is a reasonable and realistic list of expectations, anon. I never expected to see one in these censorship threads.
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Honestly, I hate that this place takes rumors and uncited claims as facts. A lot of you guys don't care about the truth, you just want to be offended.
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>>323568539
>I'd rather have NISA localize my Nintendo games at this point.

WHOA WHOA let's not say things we can't take back.
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>>323568512
>DLC-locked gay characters
>both of the gay characters happen to be mentally disturbed

woooooooooooooooooooooow bravo nintendo this sends a GREAT message to homosexuals everywhere pham
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>>323568539
Anon please let's not say anything you'll regret later.
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>>323568371
>Censorship is done out of fear of, or deference to, the sensibilities or preferences (actual or perceived) of others
Changing things because of the perceived preferences of your audience still falls under censorship.
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>>323567551
>Buying the tumblr version of this
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>>323568596
Except nobody with an actual brain takes it as fact. We're all just trying to out-meme each other for shits and giggles.
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>>323568549
>The "coolness" argument was already established
I must have missed it. Link to the establishment?
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>>323568629
Dataminers found that originally Silas and Azura where gonna be the gay options which makes sense since they are in both paths, but for some reason they changed to the other two.

Also you were gonna be able to have/adopt/Idunno your kids, but now its just they adopt in the epilogue.
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>>323568393
I think this line is a really terribly worded then translated attempt to say "your heart is being so hard/it'll beat out of your chest". The "flesh tearing" thing had to be to put a morbid spin on it because Pieri.
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>>323568758
>ctrl+f "cool"
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>>323568727
Are they the same level?
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>>323568629
Not really DLC locked its just if your gay buy one, if your lezbo buy the other or if your bisexual or straight pick whichever you like the story of but if your trans go fuck yourself.
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>>323568864
So the throbbing place isn't the penis?
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>>323568804
http://agoddamn.tumblr.com/post/132573818700/mmm-is-the-rumor-about-aqua-originally-being-a

You've heard some misinfo friend. Here's everything about that datamine, the gay support doesn't exist but a support between their kids do, leading to speculation and ultimately three different scenarios it could have implied.
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>>323568875
No, not opinions of anons. That doesn't establish anything.
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>>323568804
I thought this was found out to be not true?
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Why did they rename Marx?
Are we afraid of Communism again?
Is this the 60s?
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>>323568895
20/20
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>>323568428
>dyes her brown hair blue
>her kids have blue hair instead of brown hair
Annoying. I suppose I can picture her forcing them to dye their hair though.
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>>323568629
All faggots ARE mentally disturbed so it's pretty true to life if you ask me.
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>>323568864

It's actually intended to be a dual-meaning pun (innuendo, whatever). A lot of the other Amie lines have innuendo like that one too.

>>323569037

I'm honestly not entirely sure how it exactly works, since I haven't romanced her yet. She's batshit crazy though, so if you're into dicking psychopaths, she's the perfect pick for you.
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how finished is the fan translation
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>>323568965
Your argument is an opinion too you dumb nigger
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>>323568512
>She has the best thighs in the army
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>>323565995
8-4 localized Awakening and they're nowhere near this one. Just wait.
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>>323553525
sorry but sony does censor almost all vita games... google it but there is a lot...
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>>323568951
I think the double entendre was intentional.
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>>323569198

>all menus/items are done
>all 3 routes are 100% done
>My Castle/etc is done
>supports are 10%-20% done

Basically everything but the supports are done. Apparently they're putting out another patch "soon" that fixes the various typos/errors and translates more supports.
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>>323569219
>they're nowhere near this one.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
They work on a lot of projects without announcing it until its nearly done. Happened with MonHun and Xenoblade.
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>>323569214
Yes, an equally valid one, so saying that your opinion has been establish over someone else's is very very stupid, no?
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>>323568959
Welp, the more you know
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>>323568651
Damn, I guess all of the Ace Attorney series is just one big censorship scandal.

Man, fuck you.
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>>323553024
>ENG releases
>extract the translation from it and put it on the Japanese version
>modify whatever line are memed
>profit

Now you have the undub
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>>323569374
What the fuck are you even trying to say? Are you butthurt about not getting a direct link to the quote?
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>>323569430
It really is.
Its famous around here for being one of the worst translations.
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>>323569430
It is. Whether it's for the better or for the worse is purely down to opinion.
But it's censorship.
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>>323569198
everything except the dlc and support though most important supports are done

its good considering its before the release, uncensored and for free senpai
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>>323569449
Best way to play the game tbqh
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>>323569569
>Are you butthurt about not getting a direct link to the quote?
I'd certainly like one.
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>>323569129
Where's her outfit?
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>>323569586
>localization is censorship now
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>>323568959
Holy fuck that Eponine portrait. Kids really were a last minute inclusion.
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>>323569731
WE'RE NOT TAKING YOUR GAMES AWAY
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>>323569586
not sure what your point is
are you trying to prove that not all censorship is bad or something?
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>>323564874
People don't seem to get that, no matter who it is, once it's in the hands of someone who can translate, we're all along for the ride and translators will always abuse their power regardless of whether they're professional or just fans.
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>>323569731
Id agree we are getting into wierd territory calling it censorship.
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>>323564075

That's exactly what censorship is though. You're removing culture that is foreign to us but domestic to the creator. If the translation doesn't adequately explain culture, then add notes or a glossary. A translation should tell you specifically what was written and what it means, nothing more. When explaining that meaning, you can quantify those concepts with your own. You can't replace them outright.
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>>323569731
By definition, yeah

>>323569821
That's pretty much the gist of it
I think what I really want is for /v/ to stop spouting "censorship" when they want to be emotive about saying "localisation I don't like". It really cheapens the word.
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>>323569129
Wait, what? Nintendo had the balls to show nudity? Or at least the outline of a nipple
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>>323569430

JUST SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR BURGERS APOLLO
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>>323569964
You sound like a cuck.
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>>323569997

that's not a nipple
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>>323568672
I'm curious,what was actually going on in that support?
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>>323569964
You're one of those. Good to know.
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>>323569964
If the translation is inaccurate through accident then its a poor translation.
If the translation is inaccurate by design then that's censorship.
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who should felicia marry on hoshido senpai?
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>>323570123
Very well, what is it then?
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>>323569997
It's a mod
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How many games as of late have you personally chosen NOT to support due to the revelation of censorship being present?

I am performing a survey and would like detailed results please.
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>>323570110
I've been cursed with valuing the English language more than I value memes.

>>323570229
Yep, that bottom centre one is me.

>>323570232
I agree 100%
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Has there ever been an RPG on a nintendo console that wasnt censored for North America?

Not defending it, just curious
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>>323570339

I'm not an eop so I haven't supported censored games since ~2012
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>>323570339
Xenoblade x, that's pretty much it
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>>323565995
>lewd skinship dialogue, literally all of it you would think it's from a hentai
Bullshit, I am playing the game and the face rubbing is benign as fuck

that said, I wouldn't mind it being changed for something else, though, or at least the rubbing time being reduced in half. Shit is tedious and gets repetitive very quickly.
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>>323566876
>Elise
>"I want you to fill me with your love"
Even if the petting sticks around, there's no fucking way they're not going to change some of these lines.
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Nah I remember when the files got ripped from the game there were anon's editing them nude for use with the Live2D viewer.
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>>323570386
No, you value getting a dick in your ass
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>>323569927
The word and concept of "localization" exists because it's not just "translation + censorship" Games are brought to new audiences via localization, not simply translation, which is only one part of localization.

You are misunderstanding the meaning the of censorship.
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>>323570598
Holy fuck, anon. Even without the mod, that chick is cute as fuck. This game can't come soon enough
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>>323570670
>You are misunderstanding the meaning the of censorship
Or maybe you are?
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>>323569997
Pretty sure that's a mod anon
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>>323570670
Localization means you change things which are location based.
An American might not know what a rice ball is so you change it into a donut, that makes sense.

Taking a psychopath who wants to murder a dog and altering his personality to be a retard who wants to hug the dog has nothing to do with the regional differences of Japan and America.
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>>323570386

>the bottom centre is me

okay so you were fine Sailor Uranus and Pluto being cousins instead of being a lesbian couple.

Fuck off.
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>>323570557
This, skinship loses its novelty pretty damn fast. Even faster than Pokemon Amie.

They should have either had waifus record more lines or had more minigames beyond touching or micshit.
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>>323570670

That's exactly what localization has become though. "Bad" culture is censored and replaced. Localization used to be simply translation. Gamers aren't interested in a censored version of a japanese game. They're interested in the original form of the game. It becomes localized to them by translating into their native tongue.

Japanese games WILL be made from a japanese perspective. You can't remove that culture as you please. You must explain it to the user. Otherwise you'll get weird shit like pokemon where they wear kimonos but eat jelly donuts. Everyone will notice the culture clash and the censorship becomes obvious.
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>>323570736

>liking the painted on abs
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>>323570971
>beyond touching
Now we're talking.
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>>323570971

>nintendo keeps it in
>ugh this shit is tedious
>nintendo removes it
>HOW DARE THEY REMOVE STUFF FROM MY GAMES

it's lose lose
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>>323570927
>okay so you were fine Sailor Uranus and Pluto being cousins instead of being a lesbian couple.
I don't remember saying that at all anon!
The key word in "Some censorship is okay" is "Some". Removing the lesbian couple was a very bad decision from my point of view.
Also, I'll be happy to denounce all the other ideas on >>323570229 this chart as very silly.
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>>323570587
it doesn't sounds as bad in game, it's just that it's a literal translation.

Now, recruiting prisoners is lewd as all fucks. Specially with Camilla.
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>>323570746
>You're stupid, and this is why
>Uhh, maybe you're the actual stupid one here?

Genius argument, pal
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>>323570975
>Localization used to be simply translation
Tell that to the SNES Squaresoft games.
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>>323570746
I rewrite my posts too often and proofreading becomes impossible because my brain is decided on what it expects my writing to say. Sorry I missed that extra "the".
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>>323571112
What if they kept it in but added more variety like he said?
I know that takes effort but just what if?
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>>323570975
>Localization used to be simply translation
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>>323571146
You sound more like a faggot all of a sudden. What are you hoping to accomplish?
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>>323571190
That was NoA not Square.
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>>323571150
What other characters seduce the prisoners?
>Implying I'll let my waifu go anywhere near the prisoners
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>>323570827
I understand this. I understand that localization and censorship can exist simultaneously, as outlined >>323564075.
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>>323571217

>nintendo
>effort

pick none
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>>323571217
>putting effort into the development of a video game.
Cuck.
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>>323570229
I like this image. It makes the assumption that sticking to one argument over a long period of time makes it wrong, without actually addressing the argument at hand. Real solid shitposting.
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>>323571294
Are you saying that being a faggot is bad?
>What are you hoping to accomplish?
Anons using "censorship" for "bad localisation" or "localisation I dislike".
Problem is that "censorship" is much more dramatic, so it's more popular for people who want to sound OUTRAGED.
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>>323570975
>"Bad" culture is censored and replaced. Localization used to be simply translation.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>323571379
Pretty much anyone, because they use stock lines they use so, you can have Belka say
>"I'll take care of you! Haa, ahhhh!!! Take that! Anyone else?"
>Prisoner was recruited

You don't choose who picks a job at the facilities, though.
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Good thing I installed CFW and I'm playing the translated version. Heh!
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>>323571150
>>323571379
Hold on, say what now? Recruiting prisoners? Is this referring to the characters invading you or something?
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>>323571473
*To dissuade anons from using "censorship" for "bad localisation" or "localisation I dislike".
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>>323571473
>Are you saying that being a faggot is bad?
Homosexuality is a mental disorder, so yes. Which would explain your retardation on being unable to understand two very different concepts.
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>>323571647
This game is probably going to push more people to piracy on the 3DS than anything else.
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>>323568727
Given the same level, the first would be better in almost every situation I can think of. Granted, I haven't played Fates so I don't know if there's any bullshit difference that 3 Def and 2 Res helps with, but the left has more strength, skill, speed and 9 fucking more HP. That's well worth the negligible loss of luck and some defense/resistance.
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Why would you care?
It doesnt affect the gameplay...also im retarded wuth retarded opinion. dont ake me seriously.
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>>323571910
I don't see how, it's not like pirates are actually going to have any games to play this year beyond maybe this waifu trash.
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>>323571728
Capture is back. Once you built a prison, two units with the capture ability can capture generics and put them in prison. You can then recruit them by persuading them or by buying their services.
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>>323571928
He also gets a free Rally Defence.
>>323571728
You can capture some bosses and generic enemies to fight for you.
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>>323572054
That's exactly why.
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>>323571853
>Homosexuality is a mental disorder
Not any more, officially. But even if it is, it's a pretty benign one. And I didn't even say I was gay in the first place
>Which would explain your retardation on being unable to understand two very different concepts
Your inability so far to give me anything but ad hominems is only reaffirming my beliefs. Are you really okay with me being this smug?
I'm open minded, you can change my opinion with some well-placed facts and logic.
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>>323572082
So you can use generic units this time? Huh. Shock troops then?
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>>323572094
>He also gets a free Rally Defence.
Holy shit, what's the downside then? Either generics are finally good again, or the person you're comparing them to is horrendously shit.
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>>323572140
>not anymore, officially
Because the "official" vote was between 3 people, and two of them were gay. Not a good argument to make.
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>>323572270
You can capture these two also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsncMaZwGZU
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>>323572140
>Not any more, officially.
HAHAHAHAHA

>you can change my opinion with some well-placed facts and logic
Already been established many times over in the thread. Fuck off and die.
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>>323572340
No supports I guess?
But Haitaka is on Nohr and Oboro is on Hoshido/IK.
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>>323572270
yep and not only that. Some enemy units, particularly in Nohr, come with very hax skills. If you capture those you can keep them with those skills equipped too. You can recruit some bosses with unique models and portraits too and you can always roleplay you're raping the female priests and pegasus riders.
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>>323572361
Oh I didn't know that. Thanks anon, I won't be using that one in the future.
Though I'm not overly concerned with the status of homosexuality as a mental illness.

>>323572414
>Already been established many times over in the thread
I don't believe it has. Care to direct me?
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>>323572558
Well shit, sounds useful. Also damn, this Orochi ain't bad
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>>323572558
Damn I was gonna Marry her too
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For those that have the game, is the DLC worth it?

Don't care about exp/money/weapons. Are there any exclusive characters, costumes or classes?
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>>323572270
Their stats are typically worse than your other units at the same level, but there's some exceptions. Some stronger bosses are capturable, Nohr gets a very good Lancer early on in the game for example.

There's also some enemies with different base stats than others at the same level. I remember seeing a Revenant Knight with higher Mag but lower Str than the other ones in the same chapter.
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>>323572786
She's a mage. She's already bad.
She was also last in Japan's character poll for the females.
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>>323572558
>less popular than even the kids and Corrin-fuckers
Orochi had a hard life.
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>>323572786
She is.
>30% speed growth.
At 20/20 you are looking at 17 speed, 30 is the cap for Sage.
She does have an 80% magic growth though.
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>>323571030
>letting stats get in the way of looks and personality
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>>323572910

DLC is mostly fanservice, but it also gives you a few unique units like Anna. There's also classes like Dark Flier and such from the DLC I believe.
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>>323572786
You'd think until you see she's all magic and res while having negative speed and defense. She's the textbook of a glass canon.

>>323572830
Oh, don't worry, everyone is a slut when they're taking care of the prison. No one is sacred.
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>>323572609
>I'm stupid and don't pay attention

Find it yourself
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>>323573032
ah ok thanks anon
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>Nintendo of Europe
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>>323573036
So wait I can just have someone I dont care about do the Persuading ?
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>>323573296
you don't get to choose, people take care of facilities at random. It's just a game, don't sweat it, you can't be THIS insecure.
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>like a character when they're revealed
>turns out they're actually great units
Did your waifu/husbando turn out good or are their abs painted on too?
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>>323573296
No it's random every time.
I think you can equip an accessory that increases the chances of someone being in charge of the prison though.
You can also make said accessories for the other shops and services too.
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>>323572910
http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-fates/miscellaneous/downloadable-content/

>>323573062
Believe me I've been combing through the thread and there's nothing that definitively separates localisation from self-censorship
Google:
>Self-censorship is done out of fear of, or deference to, the sensibilities or preferences (actual or perceived) of others
>preferences
>control of what you say or do in order to avoid annoying or offending others, but without being told officially that such control is necessary
>annoying

This all lines up with what it means to "localise".
So using "censorship" for "bad localisation" or "localisation I dislike" is absurd, wouldn't you agree?
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>>323573428
Apparently Flora isn't so bad in Nohr and is at least useful in IK.
Why does she have to join so late though? Fucking IS.
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>>323572054
Holy shit we're getting more Boxboy?
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>>323573428

>Camilla

damn right
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>>323573172
Didn't he say that in an episode of the Super Mario brothers cartoon once?
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>>323573673
No, that's the Shibata defense force excuse.

>DiC cartoon that europe didnt even fucking get let alone nintendo itself wants to acknowledge

lol
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>>323560703

I DON'T CARE AND I HOPE ALL YOUR WAIFUS GET CENSORED OUT OF MY GAME
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>>323573412
You're right.
>>323573437
Oh boy
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So should I import this and use HANS for translation?
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>>323573673
Even if he didn't, throwing useless things in the trash isn't a meme.
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>>323572558
how much damage does capture do? smae as normal attack
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>>323573939
The same damage, but you get like 10% less hit. The real kicker is that Dual Attack and Dual Support bonuses are not in effect, which can be much more annoying than you'd think.
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>>323573939
It performs like a regular attack, but only triggers if you kill someone when you use it.
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So where my Fates waifu teir chart?
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>>323572558
>Some enemy units, particularly in Nohr, come with very hax skills

like what? unique skills just for enemy units?
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>>323574135
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>>323574951
No, they just happen to come with combinations of good Skills their class doesn't get naturally. A bunch of late-game Nohr enemies have Pavise and Aegis for example.
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>>323574951
Not exactly but some enemies that have, say, all the rallies, some Onis or with Cut Through (wyvern rider skill), Archers with Counter (Shura skil), Pegasus Knights with Pass, etc. Stuff like that, skills they shouldn't have for their class.
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>>323574135
Almost all the characters are "okay" tier, sans a couple standouts like "high" Camilla and Elise, and "shit" Pieri.

I'm interested to see how character opinion changes with the NA release.
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>>323574991
Now post the shitty husbando version.
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>>323574135
here you are
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>>323575623

>the cardboard cutouts are No.1
bullshit
>Hoshido's slutfu is dead last
JAPAN CONFIRMED FOR HATING CHRISTMAS CAKE
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>>323574135
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>>323575175
>Treehouse won't make any changes to base stats or growths

That's the only changes I'd want and they won't do it.
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>>323575839
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>>323568989
I would hope not.
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>>323576046
They've done it before, so I don't know why you're certain they won't.
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>>323576208
Excellent chart mate
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>get ryouma and crimson
>they kill everything next chapter with ease but get 1 xp

why they do this ryouma is literally so boring
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>>323568989
Yes. Marx and Leon were changed to Xander and Leo to avoid referencing Karl Marx and Leon Trotsky.
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>>323552172
*Ends call*
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>>323576742
use them as pair up fodder or for dual strike assists
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>>323573062
>I'm lazy and refuse to back up my argument
>Bonus points: Posting le sketched detective man
Sure didn't see that coming
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>>323576909
I rarely ever use dual attacks or they will just die to enemy dual attacks or i need pairup bonus stats and splitting them from pairups wastes a whole turn

so usually i have everyone paired up except for staff and maybe one guy alone

how should i use it?
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>>323575623
Some of the kids I like are much lower than I would want, but that's to be expected considering how lazy the kids were handled this time. Other than that I don't have too many problems with it.
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so can i still yuri with shara or what?
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>>323578103
Yes, if you're a pathetic transsexual who wants to practice pretending what it'll be like when you cut your dick off.
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>>323578264
i just like lesbians
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I hope they completely rewrite nohr and invisible kingdom.

Both of those routes are retarded as fuck in the japanese version
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>>323577954
I use dual attacks mostly on the player phase, it's true that leaving yourself wide open to them on the enemy phase is a good way to get yourself killed.

On some chapters without a lot of ranged enemies I leave my units in front in a diagonal line, that way none of the attacking enemies will be adjacent to set up their dual attacks.
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>>323578604
Sure you do. Don't forget your hormone pills
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>>323578678
Improvement is censorship anon. We can't allow it to happen.
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>>323578678
If the Treehouse rewrites Corrin to be better than the insufferable beta he is in Conquest, I'd be pleased.
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>>323579096
Fixing the poorly-written plothole filled mess is one thing.

Censoring and removing sexual stuff because PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN is another.
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>>323579394
If changing names is censorship, then so is this.
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>>323578103
NoA announced gay marriages so they aren't likely to get rid of it. I just hope that Shara isn't "spiced up" in any way. Her translated supports made her seem like a tamer version of her original so I don't mind her as much as I initially did. But if treehouse makes her crazier than Tharja was then I won't even bother.
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>>323579382
there was a pic of them changing his dialogue to make him more confident and brave, hope so based anon posts it
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>>323579767
*some based anon
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>>323575839
Nohr confirmed worst faction
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>tfw special edition out of stock
God dammit.
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>>323579915
I still don't know why they included her in that list. She and Nacht are bosses.
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>>323579983
Nintendo isn't restocking on purpose I bet
>>323579915
To think if tumblr had their way all the women in game would have her "full figure"
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>>323579915
fat people arent new to fire emblem
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>>323579096
>Improvement is censorship anon
yeah, technically
>We can't allow it to happen
why?
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>>323580426
yeah what about this man of refined taste
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>>323580426
I didn't say anything about being new. I'm just letting you know Nohr has been confirmed worst faction.
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>>323580586
It's the "all censorship = bad" line of thinking.
I mean there's honor in wanting to experience the original creator's pure work, but if it's that important to you, learn Japanese, don't play a localisation.
The localisers' personality will ALWAYS seep into the translation. Hell even the bias ingrained in the English language itself will change the tone of the writing.
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>>323580720
You do know she is in all route right?
She is the boss of Midoriko's paralogue, the daughter of Kaze, a unit who is in all three routes.
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Has ISIS outdone Sety yet?
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>>323581350
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>>323581350
He's called Ced now according to Awakening
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>Did you just called me Dicken?
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>>323581742
Yeah fuck that. He's named after the hero Sety as well as the tome Holsety. The translators knew jack shit about the Jugdral games. Only good thing they did with that was changing Leaf to Leif. Although that case was just fan translators being retarded.
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>>323581719
Julia is a girl and thus less cool than Sety.
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>social knights changed to cavaliers

reeeee
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>>323564075
>>323564417
>>323569927
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>>323582714
Laura Dale is a fucking idiot, what's new?
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>>323582714
What? England doing something good?
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>>323582714
I'm not sure what that has to do with my post but cool pic
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>>323582714
>B-B-BUT ITS CENSORSHIP WHEN ITS REMOVING SOMETHING WE DONT LIKE
SJWs BTFO
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>>323582351
They called them Julia and Julius instead of Yuria and Yurius, and Ares kinda works better than Aless, but all the other Jugdral names that were altered were kinda shit
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>>323583282
They'll always been Yuria and Yurius in my heart. I don't get why they won't let Mars be Marth but let Aless be Ares.
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>>323563351
That article has to be sarcastic, right?
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>>323583416
Melee happened and they couldn't put Marth to Mars as it had already been established I guess.

Part of why I haven't downloaded the patch is the even more retarded name changes like Ferry, and whatever they were going to turn Tilytu into
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What are the best assets, flaws and traits for Kamui?
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>>323584560
Assets
>nice tight ass
>slick hair

Flaws
>can't wear shoes, feet will hurt
>potentially homosexual

Traits
>proud of its power
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>>323584089
>Ferry
Why though
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>>323551620
Nope.
I'm playing it right now.
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