Is Shitpost-chan the hero /v/ deserves?
It's about time she made a comeback. Someone summon Otaking.
something something bad fansubs are not that bad
That documentary is my favorite piece of work he did and I'm actually sad most people only know about him because of the Star Wars thing.
He was too busy jerking off to the shading to remember to draw it.
>You're supposed to jerk off to the shading
That's been true in vidya art for decades.
Otaking's been getting better at animation after dumping rotoscoping.
>Wait isn't this that guy that did that weird retroscoped star wars thing?
>He posts here?
He's an /m/ tripfag. Even when he did his first animation it had /k/ in the credits under thanks for weapons and military advice.
FUCK YEAR OTAKING
MY FAVORITE OLDFAG WHO LOVES ANIME SHADING A LOT
like some of the things he says in this thing is very obviously wrong but he raises some good points too
Man, Troll-tan really grew out, didn't she?
>He animates like a JP animator would. No stretch n' squash, no anticipation, no framing.
Japanese animators don't use all 12 principles all the time, but it's nonsense to say that they are ignorant of it.
Rip on Disneys color all you like, they do it so the animation is smooth and seemless, even old anime looks choppy at times because the amount of frames need to be toned down for how much detail there is. An animation is bad when you keep being reminded that its a stop motion image. Also that anime has over
Almost 5 million views now.
He's animating an R-Type short with a broken hand right now.
Anime isn't very detailed per se, there are many old shows with simple designs and shading. The animation is limited due to budget constraints, that's all. That fact doesn't prevent the good animators from making interesting animation though.
I remember being exposed to his "the rise and fall of fansubs" and him hating the work some groups do with opening/ending translations and special effects added to specific parts. He literally likes small, hard to read, yellow sub titles that are culturalized.
I remember him making a thread concerning that short a few days before uploading it, asking for critiques
and then he posted it and /m/ lost their shit
Lies, my steel donuts are always brown with purple hair.
I thought his main issue was the lack of translating the credits in most fansubs while putting the fansub staff on the forefront.
He had a lot of issues, really.
SNK broke the cycle. Of course, we'll see how long that lasts.
>broke his wrist and hand in two places
It has been a while since I watched it, but I do recall him being annoyed that subbers put their names all over the credits. That is annoying, I mean thank you to those who fansub and all, but put your credits at the end or beginning.
A lot of anime where those effects are used are because most of those anime have nothing going on in those moments. Watch anime without subs, there's a lot of just standing around and not a lot of animation going on.
>He literally likes small, hard to read, yellow sub titles that are culturalized.
>hard to read
TL note: literally does not actually mean literally, in English the word is used sarcastically to mean the opposite of its original intended use.
>A lot of anime where those effects are used are because most of those anime have nothing going on in those moments.
That's bullshit though. They generally use those effects when special attacks and shit are going on.
That and it's not the subbers job to spice up a scene with nothing going on by making dancing fucking subs.
SHADING IS WHAT MADE ANIME GREAT.
Have you never watched old late 80s/early 90s anime where the text used in the subs were really small yellow, outlined in a think black?
Charging up and using attacks are usually just the samething over and over again though. Also, there's alternatives most of the time where that isn't an 'issue'.
HEY GUYS WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE STYLE OF WESTERN ANIMATION
MINE IS ASDFPFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>friend went to an animation school and draws exactly like the top images
Is this a thing the schools actively enforce? What the fuck is up with this shit.
is shit in those pic.retard just copy pasted colours from some urushihara image but he painted at random ignoring basic concepts such as volume an source coherence. common with tracers
Objectively you are incorrect. It's like arguing about colour theory.
Yellow is used because it's least likely to clash with anything going on on-screen, while still sticking out.
>anime has taken a noseplant in quality
The quality of TV animation has actually improved. If there's one thing in modern animation that's dying out, it would be 2D mechanical animation. CGI is just too good of a fit for rigid forms.
You don't have to know how to draw to be an animator or artist anymore.
Compare Otaking, literally a one man animation studio, to >>323535645
So true. And we've actually been on this track for decades. The foreword on Richard Williams' book written decades ago already talked about how art colleges were killing off drawing classes.
>Yellow is used because it's least likely to clash with anything going on on-screen, while still sticking out.
>compare X to Toei not giving a shit
Toei's fairly competent when they actually put in the time and money. Kyousougiga and the Precure movies are both fairly well-animated.
The animation, of course. Most of it is still cheap shit, but the number of scenes with notable animation is greater in TV anime of today. In the 90s and older it would be unthinkable to have a TV anime with animation on the caliber of One Punch Man, Space Dandy, or Nichijou for instance.
I really like what Otaking does, and I think he's an alright guy. Still, it's really hard for me to take his opinions on anything seriously, for obvious reasons.
It's not as much these days, but the I think the one that still does this (on top of their translations being shit to mediocre) is TV-Nihon, who do a lot of Kamen Rider subs. EVERY goddamn special attack or henshin has some awful looking special effect, and it's annoying as fuck because they hardsub and are the only ones who've done a lot of KR.
Looks like garbage m8. Those rotoscoping old animation techniques are outdated, the quality of TV animation is better than ever
But shading? They simply don't do it.
In a perfect world we'd have Disney quality fluid framerate, but with art like this.
I don't think you understand that it's just as popular with young adult men, and they know it. Cute girl shows can be the shit, anon. You're missing out.
>Disney's what inspired the art style that evolved into anime today
You mean same-face syndrome and clunky-poor movement animation?
Quality eastern animation is just as sparse and quality western animation
Literally didn't - it inspired what anime looked like when it was copying Disney and taking inspiration from there as well. That is to say, it inspired anime that looked identical to Disney cartoons at the time. It had no further influence outside of Americanized bullshit like Ghibli.
>Keep in mind he romanticizes low budget ovas from the 80s
The ones he romanticizes weren't low budget. They had 3x the budget of an average anime tv show and had really good animation. Cyber City oedo for example. there were tons of low budget ovas but no one likes or cares for those.
Am I the only one who likes otaking's girls?
Nobody brought any of that fucking up. I know damn well the only reason why Eastern > Western right now is Quantity. Chill the fuck out, nobody started slinging anything. I was talking about the artstyle. Go check out some 70s or older anime series and you'll completely understand.
I like XCX but I've gotten so used to "PRESS B NOW" because I played XC for over 100 hours that I didn't even notice there were QTE's for a long time.
And now it bothers me again.
>70's anime without grain
What 70's anime were you watching. I agree that the grainlessness is where the strangeness comes from but to me it looks very heavily late-80's/early-90's inspired.
>hi-light, base colour, shade1, shade2 and black
>black is an armpit hair
>everyone stands in a line
>everyone has the same blank expression
No depth, no camera placement, no personality, no nothing.
It's like I'm really witnessing the slow death of an artform.
Thanks, Seth MacFarlane.
It's aimed toward little girls while also being general enough to appeal to the rest of their families too.
It's as much for young adult men as Kamen Rider is for young adult women/MILFs, which is why Riders nowadays are young, handsome men.
Actually I'm no /co/-fag but I've noticed despite having retardedly simplistic, inferior artstyles compared to anime, Cartoon Network shows still have better animation than most anime shows that air each season. At least CN shows move by more than 2 frames per second.
Fuck you, there is literally nothing wrong with hanna barbera's animation
As someone who went to an art school to study animation for 2 years, I can tell the one and only reason it's like that is because of the budget. Old animation was more detailed, frame-by-frame, so it was way more expensive and needed more time to be made.
Why would you do that now in a kids show when you can just make some vectored images and reuse them over and over (2015 mickey, Gumball, etc) or just make simple non-natural and exploitable proportions (adventure time, regular show) that you can deform however you want and it's way cheaper?
>Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with animation at all anymore.
>mfw reading about how hanna-barbera characters had collars to make it easier to animate
that gif is a great example
yeah, that's a good way of going about making 4chan content
>post it on 4chan
>post it on whatever else you use a year or so later
The number of frames is not the sole determinant of what makes animation good. Many TV cartoons are very "animated" with lots of movement going on, but most of it is inexpressive and robotic.
Nobody will ever defend Hanna Barbera's animation, but the artstyle itself was way more pleasing to the eye than generic Flash animation. Nowadays Western cartoons are drawn with simple circles and rectangles then call it a day.
There's no room for saying that when all the west does is flash animation now.
Shit, with the increasing use of obnoxiously bad 3D in anime, the east doesn't have it much better, so don't misunderstand me.
Goddamn, that's some horrifyingly entry level stuff.
Trust me, I'll ease you into this. Watch these:
>Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
People still don't believe that this movie wasn't rotoscoped (traced.) It's about a cop in a dystopic alternate-history japan who can't bring himself to kill in the line of duty and the fallout of his failure to shoot a terrorist agent. It's got a good English dub if subs bother you.
>Ghost in the Shell
>Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
These movies are top-tier science-fiction and are also very pretty. They both have solid dubs too. In my opinion the sequel is actually better than the original but it's a bit polarizing. They're about cops in the future dealing with cyborg related stuff.
>Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise
The first in-house project from the makers of EVA and in my opinion their best, and also the highest budget on an anime before Akira came out. This movie's a lot like that movie Contact, only prettier, more thoughtful, and made first. I particularly like the English dub on this one, Brian Cranston's in it.
This one's (in)famous for taking 7 years to animate. It's very cool looking though. It's about car racing in the future. If you liked The Wachowski's Speed Racer you'll like this. It's got a very solid English dub too.
>Okay /v/ I'll watch your gay and dated anime
what are you even talking about man
>responds in kind with equally accessible stuff
>Brian Cranston's in it.
He's also in Macross Plus, which everyone should also see.
Yeah they're rare, what's your point
>as long as it's used right.
>wasting money on animating lips
Also, I noticed Japan's getting better with 3DCG and integrating it with digital animation. A great example of this is Etotama's transformation scenes where the characters transform into their chibi 3D versions.
Even though it's not saying much, it has the best combat of any MMO so far save for Vindictus due to that being limited instanced and whatnot.
Don't even bother arguing it here, they'll just call you a weeb. There's literally no point in bringing up am argument.
This thread is all about older anime with superior shading and animation and attention to detail, right? I'm saying I'm willing to watch whatever people think are good examples of 80s/90s anime with great shading and animation if they want to namedrop some titles.
For western cartoons, there's Motorcity. As for anime, an increasing amount of young animators have been drawing using Flash. One Punch Man, Yozakura Quartet, and Birdy Decode have significant amounts of digital key animation.
I'll just gloat over them like the lesser beings they are.
So you just want recommendations, is that it?
>superior shading and animation and attention to detail
Eeehhh, I'd argue that people are cherrypicking examples when they're talking about shading and animation from the past. Animation and the amount of detail nowadays is fine. Also, recommendations go to that new recommendation board.
You know how you get elementals for different materials? Requesting an elemental that is the physical manifestation of autism.
>Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
If that anon's looking for fancy shading he'll be disappointed.
>responds in kind with equally accessible stuff
Yes, that was the idea. Didn't you read the top of my post?
>I'll ease you into this
I've seen too many anons ask how to get into anime and then get hit with Revolutionary Girl Utena-tier shit. It's great, but not how you start.
I don't want to get pissed off at /v/ any more tonight, and if you start a sub v dub argument, /v/'s shitty opinion is going to piss me off again.
>It's great, but not how you start.
Most people will probably not even get into the medium at all. They'll just watch one maybe two of the things listed and then crawl back to their garbage moba games where they'll spend the rest of their life wallowing in online mediocrity in one tiny arena set up to steal their time.
I think they're more likely to stay if you recommend stuff that's flashy and impressive first. And Jin-Roh is a pretty damn solid movie even if it is entry level. It's a shame Oshii didn't get to direct it and it wasn't live-action but for what it is it's very good.
Could I interest you in a Moonbeam City
She's an original character of the artist's, and prime fapping material.
JinRoh is more sombre than flashy, though.
It's not as if a shitter like you will actually sit down and watch most of what's thrown out here.
Macross Plus is beautiful but I don't think that anybody should watch it before they see Super Dimension Fortress Macross, the tv version, not the movie. And the less you know the better.
I watched SDF Macross on a whim without knowing anything about it other than robots and it was amazing.
That's not what's happening at all. You'll get much better response in the new recc board. I'm actually trying to help you out.
Charming art-style. I don't exactly know what happened, but production companies really pushed for charming, unique designs back in the day. Nowadays literally everything looks like a mix of Family Guy and Adventure Time.
How does it make you feel when there are people ITT who most likely
I'll add more on top of this fellow anon here >>323537701
>Sword of the stranger
Feudal japan, story about a samurai that runs from his past. Great coreographies and realistic battles overall.
>Cowboy bebop (anime and movie)
Greatly overrated, but that doesn't mean it's bad. The english dub was good enough for the english dubbers to make a cameo in the sequel. My personal favourite anime of all time but not for what you'd think. You can give it a shot to Samurai champloo if you liked it.
>One Punch Man
While the story is just a parody and most characters are just dumb and uninteresting, it probably has the best animation in fights (for an anime, that's it), specially the last one, being 4 minutes of non-repeated, non-talking battle in total. Don't tell anyone on 4chin about it tho as you'll get shit on.
>Any miyazaki movie (I recommend The Castle of Cagliostro)
While miyazaki is just Japanese Disney, CThe Castle of Cagliostro was on of his first and it's not an original concept as it's about Lupin III. Comfy as fuck movie and has great action.
>Vampire Hunter: D
Remake of the original Vampire hutner movie, great visuals, artstyle and pretty solid animation. Another of my Personal favourites.
>Satoshi kon's movies
Mostly rotoscoped, but they are amazing script-wise. Tokyo Godfathers is my favourite, but Paprika and perfect blue are also amazing
Animated version of Metropolis writted by Osama Tezuka. Not that original as it's not an original story but still great.
From Katsuhiro Otomo, who also made Akira. Steampunk and interesting, but not as good as Akira, I'd say.
It makes me
got you, I'm not going to get upset.
I watched so much Shezow when I was last in the hospital
It's on daytime TV here ALL the fucking time. Also... Grojband I think it's called? And new Spongebob. New Spongebob is fucking terrible.
>watching anime for the animation instead of the plot and character development
and you're probably the same people that use the term moeshit to describe shows you think have no substance of merit, when doing the same thing yourselves.
It looks like it's going to get canceled any minute, man. Also it's just Flash.
This is more like it. Shit still looks great.
>b-but a japanese animation studio worked on it
It counts, nigger
That reminds me, I'm still disappointed over the subbing job on Discotek's Teyandee release. Granted, it's good that they released it at all, and most of the subbing is good enough, but there's a goo d amount of censorship and mistranslation here and there.
>>Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with animation at all anymore.
That's literally the theme of the entire thread.
>b-but a japanese animation studio worked on it
Yeah, I never understood this argument, especially since everything, from Spongebob to Naruto, is animated in Asia, generally Korea, anyway.
New SpongeBob is fucking awesome. Fuck outta here nostalgiafag
>My taste is mature and sophisticated because I just finished Lactating Gay Homosexuals
The books are getting official translations, read them instead if you don't care for the heart of the medium. Having a mature story for mature audiences such as yourself doesn't make an anime patrician. "Plot and character development" are top tier pleb identifiers. You should have said storytelling.
Julius Caesar doesn't develop over the course of Julius Caesar, does that make the play bad? Or does the "plot" make up for that?
western animation is actually focused on animation. everything is much more fluid and free flowing. even fucking adult swim 10 minute stoner shows blow anime the fuck out.
Animation is not the reason you watch it, but surely helps.
Same way an artstyle, good soundtrack or gameplay mechanics makes you keep playing even if the story is shit.
It's so fucking terrible it made me wish I had died in that bed rather than recovered. I watched one entire episode and nowhere in it could I even identify an attempted joke. It's so bad it's not even just 'unfunny', it's totally unaware of what the series is and comes off as totally pointless as a result. Nothing fucking happened and none of it was entertaining in the least. For anyone who's interested to know, it was the episode where Krabs and Plankton tell their stories of how they started the restaurants in high school or whatever the fuck. God it was terrible.
KLK did a good job with such a meager budget. there's more to good animation than fluidity. and say what you will about choppiness in anime, but at least they actually produce shows, instead of bragging about stuff from the 40s.
>playing video games for anything but the mechanics
Story is entirely irrelevant. Shitty anime tropes sure helped me dump 600 hours into Guilty Gear XX. Generic Tolkien ripoff "lore" helped me dump 400 hours into Dota 2. Whatever CliffyB shit out 5 minutes before UT released sure helped me enjoy that game as well.
Some kind of new site feature to cull newfaggots and encourage elitism and tribalism. Maybe a minimum lurking period of two years and condition /a/ posters to hate 99% of anime. Like how /lit/ used to be before the /sci-fi/fantasy/ took root and poisoned it.
Really, it's probably too quick for its own good. The only civil and decent boards are the slow ones.
yes but do they handle the tough issues?
the answer is no
I agree with him a bit on this, as in shading when done well looks fantastic.
But the problem Otaking doesn't really seem to notice is that multiple tone shading on digital animation often comes off quite weird, look at his own work with Planet 55 Studios and the Tie Fighter, the shading doesn't blend well with eachother and that late 1980s anime style comes off as just wrong.
It also doesn't help that Otaking doesn't seem to have the best artwork and doesn't know how to do perspective well when it comes to characters, you can tell his work heavily uses tweens.
This is an Otaking TV series coming out and you can see what I'm talking about. It looks really "MSPaint" and just off and heavily using tweens even though this show had actually quite a budget behind it.
Never said KLK was good or anything. I watched it and clearly saw it's flaws. As >>323539863 said, it did a good job with the budget it had, at least with animation. I just like how that pic is colored. KLK overall wasn't very good imo.
Yeah, my point was that these things help to keep going.
"Heart-pounding new life" is the reason why i once wore a dress and sticked a permanent marker in my ass It wasn't as nice as i thought it would be so i never did it again
Remember kids... deliberate, STRONG key frames is what makes your animation look interesting. Every frame where a character goes from one action to the next needs to have a sense of weight and exaggeration. This is taught in every school of animation but the japs were pretty good at stylizing it (probably due to budget constraints)
Kanada style is nice, but the Japanese realists are cool as well.
Western animation uses more animation frames but in 99% of cases it's computer-generated inbetweens with absolutely zero effort or personality, and there's no such thing as cinematography or choreography, just characters moving like smooth robots around a static background.
Anime cuts down on the framerate and lipsync so they can actually put effort into what really matters.
>Anime cuts down on the framerate and lipsync so they can actually put effort into what really matters.
and what exactly would that be
If he's the 2deep4u kind of hipster who talks about Mulholland Drive a lot.
>Legend of the Blue Wolves
If he likes Derek Jarman films.
>Bobby's In Deep AKA Bobby's Girl
For all the rest.
For the record all three of these are in my opinion really good, but they're also out there and a bit experimental.
>Lactating Gay Homosexuals
Your ad hominem does not make the show any worse. I have already read the books, actually. I mostly watched the anime to see what would get changed in the adaptation, as I do with many works I have enjoyed. I did the same with Of Mice and Men, despite not caring much about cinematography.
>"Plot and character development" are top tier pleb identifiers
I guess you wanted me to say that "boobies and pretty colors" are what real men like?
Most anime doesn't cover important issues either. You know most of the anime people on 4chan circlejerk about involve le cute girls or le awesome fightan.
I always feel I need to rewatch it one day because I was too young back then and didn't even understand what it was all about, but I don't think I'll be able to stomach all that depressive tone again.
you prolly got mad that the sheriff daughter got fugged by coons
dont understand why these got split into 3 vids but whatever
also the opening song is gold
I hope this shit comes back at some point. Even if it's just a few shows/ovas/movies.
>Western animation uses more animation frames but in 99% of cases it's computer-generated inbetweens with absolutely zero effort or personality
Bullshit you're an animator. "Computer Generated inbetweens" (as you put it) look like dogshit and always have to be touched up or just straight up drawn. Which means a human being is looking at every single frame.
Anime uses the exact same tools that western animation is except all the inbetweens look like fucking shit. Nevermind the fact they constantly cut corners and will straight up just make 3D models for anything they can get away with (vechiles, crowds, etc).
Lets not even get into how often rather than animating something they'll just tween or show a straight up static fucking image.
6/10 made me reply
Bunch of stuff /a/ never talks about.
It won't come back because of digital animation.
OK sure, but you can't deny MacFarlane influenced the latest batch of shit shows. There was next to nobody emulating HB in the '90s except Scooby Doo videos and that
awesomeJohnny Quest cartoon.
It lacks proper spacing. Dude has talent but needs to work on that.
>those guys who keep posting Gundam anime and calling it "real anime" because it's not moe shit
>not caring much about cinematography
Goddamn anon, I was so close to mentioning that general statements about "cinematography" are the ultimate pleb-marker in my last post. You write like you aren't dumb, but really want to be a genius.
>le cute girls or le awesome fightan
but reinhard is the cutest girl
Of course, but the principle still applies
Agreed, it's one of their strengths. They didn't invent it, but they're damn good at it.
It's not for everyone, but I find most first-timers just didn't use enough lube or went too big too fast. You can't really jump on a buttplug and expect everything to feel great instantly, you start with gently rubbing your asshole while jerking off, maybe sticking a well-lubed finger in right before you cum. Once you get the mental association of having something around or in your ass while you're in your most aroused state, then just touching down there will start to get you hard. After that slowly introduce fingers, small (retrievable) toys, and work your way very slowly up to larger things.
It's a slow rewarding process.
since you're apparently retarded, why not try searching "jinjin hentai" or "jinjin doujin"? use you're brian, moran.
>what isn't entry level
Watching hentai for non-masturbation purposes
While cel animation has some qualities that are hard to replicate digitally, much of that article reeks of ignorance. The author just likes the flaws inherent to analog production.
not really, i had fun with a flipbook program I had though, i kind of ran out of ideas
Just get them to watch more anime.
Most of /a/ have pathetically weak powerlevels.
Koichi Ohata made his masterpiece in the 90s, and Takahashi is mostly known for his 80s output. But yes, anybody who watches anything made before the 80's most certainly has surpassed entry-level.
>Mahou Shoujo-Tai Arusu
>Eve no Jikan
>Just read the VN
Why not do both? Sometimes the animation can be nice. Can Can Bunny was pretty.
If an anime viewer has only seen one pre-2000 anime there's a real good chance it's NGE. And 2001 is entry level as fuck, it's practically baby's first deep movie.
>greatest comedy ever
>anything but Revenge of the Nerds
You aren't even trying.
Your post is funny because half of the big western cartoons use 3D models for pretty much everything (including the main characters) while faking a 2D look. See: Family Guy, Simpsons, Futurama, etc, and the ones that don't use 2D puppet motion with automatic inbetweens instead, aka "Flash" animation. It practically never happens that a character in western animation is drawn entirely by hand for even a single frame.
Anime is still usually drawn by hand, frame by frame.
Reminder the the OPs are the only good thing about animes
My point exactly. This seems to have been lost on you, though.
As expected of the typical /v/ mongoloid.
/v/ is anime territory and there's nothing you can do about it.
from now on anyone who uses the phrase "entry-level" should have their opinion automatically disregarded, IMHO
all objectively good anime should be watched regardless of how obscure it is
He actually went to /m/ during the entire process of making the film. I remember when it was only a 15 second clip. It was kept a secret for a while until it was uploaded by some random guy.
oh yea and i just found out this exists while looking up Yasuomi Umetsu because i forgot his name by using Kite (1999) as a reference
>people using animation and cinematography in the same sentence
This is a perfect "how to spot a retard" warning sign
I WANT TO WATCH SOMETHING, NOT READ IT
This post is making me laugh uncontrollably, knowing there are people who seriously take anime discussion on internet forums this serious and they genuinely insinuate incredibly obscure anime from forever ago is known to everyone
>>friend went to an animation school and draws exactly like the top images
>Is this a thing the schools actively enforce? What the fuck is up with this shit.
Do you want a job or do you want to learn how to draw?
Make your choice.
> It practically never happens that a character in western animation is drawn entirely by hand for even a single frame.
Most shows that outsource their animation to Korea are hand drawn and colored digitally with certain things done in After Effects (pretty much every original show on Cartoon Network, for example)
Star Blazers is practically a rewrite with some of the things they took out, GE999 is flatout no because it was pretty much Japland only and only the french would really have known Harlock by his 'albator' title.
>newfag with entry-level taste getting assblasted
I bet you also complain when anon's won't tell you how to sadpanda.
Take a look at the original gundam and the original Yamato and then look at their later releases.
Or hell try any of the earlier mecha TV shows.
99% of them are incredibly low budget low framerate shit.
The stuff that stuck around was the OVA's and the few exceptions like escaflowne, Patlabor, VOTOMS (which still didn't even look that good).
Coonskin's art and the movie in general was ass, I couldn't care less about "muh racism" or whatever.
Also I thought the coons trying to get with America but constantly getting their shit slapped was the whole point of those scenes.
So it's just like Duel Masters?
I actually do know a fair bit of Japanese.
Also, would you rather hear a drunken hobo attempt to seriously deliver lines poorly or a Mexican guy deliver the lines well in Spanish?
Don't, it's bog standard battle shounen garbage.
People who proclaim it as anything but haven't seen enough anime
>So it's just like Duel Masters?
Completely toning down certain things like suicide attacks, say.
>understanding what they said as they say it > autistic anime inflection
>a direct translation of the script is inferior to a localization of said script that has to be edited further to fit lip syncing
>he isn't watching Koukaku no Pandora and Nurse Witch Komugi-chan R
Kind of defeating your own point here man. Especially if you were actually correct. But plenty of Korean shows are also computer animated, and most of them don't look very good.
The best compliment you can give the Avatar shows for example is that it's a decent anime ripoff. Which says a lot. And the fight choreography and animation still leaves a lot to be desired.
yea mane bakshi was all about caricatures and "le real talk"
i swear he'd just give the VAs a guide and theyd make up the lines as they went
that's how organic the writing sounded to me
> Go Princess is almost over
If only it could last another year. I don't have much hope for next season since Ghost is boring and Ninninger is horrible so odds are Precure is about to get fucked too.
Got the rest here. Check under the [Sogna] folder.
>Also, would you rather hear a drunken hobo attempt to seriously deliver lines poorly or a Mexican guy deliver the lines well in Spanish?
well I speak spanish, but for the point of the argument I'll replace it with a language I don't know, and I'd still prefer to watch the show and hear the words, not read the words and ignore the visuals.
Just keep posting with it in the same sentence so I can laugh everytime.
I never understand people who shit on shows most people agree are worth watching, and then make no statements on shows they like themselves
It's like the most retarded form of false superiority and being a contriarian, these people are too insecure or uninformed to make any statements about what they like
I want to have faith that cute witch girls doing cute witch things at a magic school who also transform into magical girls will be a saving grace.
They can't fuck up cute witch shennanigans. It's hard as fuck to do wrong unless they just cast it aside completely.
Well technically, you'd be hearing it, not watching.
I agree with this sentiment. Some dubs are shit but generally I don't mind. Also I don't think there's such a thing as a mad performance, it's all just different takes on something. Some we prefer, and we've been unconsciously trained to think of society's current preference as 'good', but really, I don't think bad acting exists.
And I dislike what's happened to Japanese and more recently American voice acting. They've started to generalize to the point where
'anime acting' is a recognizable thing rather than giving a performance that happens to be going into an anime. I imagine that voice actors don't see a script and think "how should I do this?" but instead they think "how should this sound in an anime?". That's boring.
>Koukaku no Pandora
So when are they going to drop the loli charade and cut to the geopolitics.
They told me Shirow did some work for this one but all I've seen so far is a couple of technologies that knockoff his earlier work.
Alternatively where are all of the horse penises and CG?
It's been scientifically proven that your eyes can only focus on one thing at a time, I'm WATCHING a show not READING a book.
It makes you unable to focus on the visuals all the time, and what's the point of all that art if you don't even get to look at it.
Reminder that this entire film was animated by a single person in their bedroom.
The Japs are just miles above everyone when it comes to amazing looking animation.
It doesn't even seem like it comes from a technical level as well, for example Disney animation is crazy fluid, Legend of Korra and Wakfu have fights that are probably better than anything in anime from a fluid animation standpoint, but Japs know how to make things really stand out and have impact.