UNLIMITED SHITPOSTING

>>323530503
>still no new memes....

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>>323530503
Is Shitpost-chan the hero /v/ deserves?

She's right though.

>>323530827
No. Your Shitpost overlord is Derek Smart.

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It's about time she made a comeback. Someone summon Otaking.

>>323531339
something something bad fansubs are not that bad
That documentary is my favorite piece of work he did and I'm actually sad most people only know about him because of the Star Wars thing.

>>323530503
>you will never be this much of a huge nostalgiafag weeaboo

>>323531339
where is the ass?

>>323531649
How much ass can you expect an anime character to have?
>>323531556
But he hates when translators leave in "Japanese culture"

Fuck Otaking and fuck his MUH ANIMU SHADING.

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>>323531649
He was too busy jerking off to the shading to remember to draw it.

>>323531649
You're supposed to jerk off to the shading

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>>323531961
at least this much

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>>323532836
>You're supposed to jerk off to the shading

That's been true in vidya art for decades.

>>323530827
>Cuckery cuck cuck, nice shilling, cuck lord
Nice touch.

>>323532967
That busted anatomy.

>>323530827
>Remembering a Xenoblade X thread from earlier where people were actually defending QTEs
It's prophetic.

>>323533041
I'm not an artist, but original was fucking yoko ono sad tier

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Otaking's been getting better at animation after dumping rotoscoping.

Wait isn't this that guy that did that weird retroscoped star wars thing?

He posts here?

>>323533208
He animates like a JP animator would. No stretch n' squash, no anticipation, no framing.

>Herpderp what are key frames let's do this all through without any planning

>>323533269
where do you think he got his talent?
he's okay, seems to get accused of tracing a lot.

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>>323533269
>Wait isn't this that guy that did that weird retroscoped star wars thing?
>He posts here?

He's an /m/ tripfag. Even when he did his first animation it had /k/ in the credits under thanks for weapons and military advice.

>>323531339
Why is she not barefoot? The fuck?

>>323533448
>he's okay, seems to get accused of tracing a lot.

He draws over 3D models sometimes for complex shots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0taAlZ_MxA

>>323530503
Isn't this the guy who has a boner over late 80s/early 90s anime and thought Stardust Crusaders was a current/fresh series?

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FUCK YEAR OTAKING

MY FAVORITE OLDFAG WHO LOVES ANIME SHADING A LOT

like some of the things he says in this thing is very obviously wrong but he raises some good points too

>>323530827
>"It's a big board for you"
>-Dante from the Devil May Cry Series

Like pottery.

>>323533359
I think that's exactly what he was going for, for better or worse. Keep in mind he romanticizes low budget ovas from the 80s

>>323533773
It's so dense

>>323533650

>I Don't Know What an OVA Is: the image

why are /v/ donut steels alwyas fucking ginger cunts

>>323530503
>drew
>all that obvious traced lines and random ass shadows
kek

>>323533992
because of Lady Godiva you uncultured faggot

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>>323530827
Man, Troll-tan really grew out, didn't she?

>>323533743
I'm at a loss here senpai.

>>323533359

while it's not exactly a smart move time or budget-wise it sure the hell looks nicer.

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>>323533359
Right.

>>323533992
Because gingers suck black cocks the best.

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i love squid girls

>>323533359
>He animates like a JP animator would. No stretch n' squash, no anticipation, no framing.
Japanese animators don't use all 12 principles all the time, but it's nonsense to say that they are ignorant of it.

>>323534259
weak.

>>323533650
Rip on Disneys color all you like, they do it so the animation is smooth and seemless, even old anime looks choppy at times because the amount of frames need to be toned down for how much detail there is. An animation is bad when you keep being reminded that its a stop motion image. Also that anime has over

>>323534282
Face looks like Robin from Titans.

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Almost 5 million views now.
He's animating an R-Type short with a broken hand right now.

>>323534343
Anime isn't very detailed per se, there are many old shows with simple designs and shading. The animation is limited due to budget constraints, that's all. That fact doesn't prevent the good animators from making interesting animation though.

>>323531556
I remember being exposed to his "the rise and fall of fansubs" and him hating the work some groups do with opening/ending translations and special effects added to specific parts. He literally likes small, hard to read, yellow sub titles that are culturalized.

>>323534460
Oh shit, that was him?

>>323534460
I would've liked Gradius or Darius better but R-Type is good too.

Darius has the superior /m/ designs. And Vic Viper is badass in Gradius.

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>>323533208
Jesus christ that was awesome

>>323533992
because it's the middle colour between brown and blonde so it appeal to both side. learn mass marketing you piece of cuck

>>323533895
But modern OVAs don't have shading

>>323534504
>him hating the work some groups do with opening/ending translations and special effects added to specific parts
Daiz?

>>323534217

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhY-dElllk

>>323534526
Who even owns R-Type these days? Isn't Irem just sticking to slot machines now?

>>323534610
No, iirc, he pointed out groups like Kaizoku Fansubs and them adding special effects when characters used attacks in One Piece.

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>>323534460
I remember him making a thread concerning that short a few days before uploading it, asking for critiques

and then he posted it and /m/ lost their shit

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>>323533992
Lies, my steel donuts are always brown with purple hair.

>>323534639
Pretty much.

Pachinko is where Japanese game devs go to die.

>>323533743
This is the average /v/ user in real life vs on the net.

>>323534504
>special effects added to specific parts
This shit is fucking cancer though. Any sub group who does this can fuck right off

>>323534689
shame the game has the shittiest gameplay, which is why people never make webms of it

>>323534504
I thought his main issue was the lack of translating the credits in most fansubs while putting the fansub staff on the forefront.

He had a lot of issues, really.

>>323534690
SNK broke the cycle. Of course, we'll see how long that lasts.

>>323534754
As long as it's softsubbed, who cares?

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>>>/m/13670140
>broke his wrist and hand in two places
>Animates anyway

>>323534851
Why do stupid special effects on subtitles when your attention is supposed to be mainly on what is actually happening in the show? It's a pointless waste of fucking time

SHADING
H
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>>323534930
There's nothing happening in the show when the opening is playing.

>>323534460
>He's animating an R-Type short with a broken hand right now.
the absolute madman

/v/ acting like they're experts on animation is funny

>>323534846
It has been a while since I watched it, but I do recall him being annoyed that subbers put their names all over the credits. That is annoying, I mean thank you to those who fansub and all, but put your credits at the end or beginning.

>>323534851
This.

>>323534930
A lot of anime where those effects are used are because most of those anime have nothing going on in those moments. Watch anime without subs, there's a lot of just standing around and not a lot of animation going on.

>>323535027
fuck off /a/

>>323531339
Who the hell is Otaking?

>>323534504
>He literally likes small, hard to read, yellow sub titles that are culturalized.
>hard to read
>yellow
literally what?
TL note: literally does not actually mean literally, in English the word is used sarcastically to mean the opposite of its original intended use.

>>323535056
>A lot of anime where those effects are used are because most of those anime have nothing going on in those moments.
That's bullshit though. They generally use those effects when special attacks and shit are going on.
That and it's not the subbers job to spice up a scene with nothing going on by making dancing fucking subs.

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>>323534975
SHADING IS WHAT MADE ANIME GREAT.

>>323535027
>you can have no interest in anything else but vidya if you post on /v/
Fuck off /a/

>>323535141
Have you never watched old late 80s/early 90s anime where the text used in the subs were really small yellow, outlined in a think black?

>>323535192
Charging up and using attacks are usually just the samething over and over again though. Also, there's alternatives most of the time where that isn't an 'issue'.

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>>323535230

HEY GUYS WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE STYLE OF WESTERN ANIMATION

MINE IS ASDFPFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>323535351
>HEY GUYS WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE STYLE OF WESTERN ANIMATION
Pixar from Toy Story to The Incredibles.

>>323535230
/v/ doesn't exactly know shit about video game development either, so I don't get your point.

>>323534303
This. I mean, Darkstalkers is basically pure traditional Disney/Warner Bros. style animation, and that was made completely in Japan.

>>323535351
Its ironic you say this since the whole thread is highlighting the fact that anime has taken a noseplant in quality and all looks the same too. Jesus fucking christ

>>323531339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20PwaJYcnuk
H264, FANSUBBING, ENCODING, 10-BIT, COMMIE, CRUNCHYROLL

>>323535351
Definitely the 90s. Batman, X-Men, Spider-man, the such.

>>323535192
>That's bullshit though. They generally use those effects when special attacks and shit are going on.
I've never seen this. That does sound like a crime.

>>323535350
The point is yellow text isn't hard to read, dumbass. There's a reason yellow text was the norm for subtitles for so long

>>323530503


Seriously though, I'm digging that 90-s anime style vibe of the pictures. You people just don't know how cool it is to see actual shading in anime for a change.

>>323535485
traditional animation in general is a dying art

>>323535351
blame Flash

>>323535351
Those arms on 2010s aren't noodley enough.

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>>323535351
>friend went to an animation school and draws exactly like the top images
Is this a thing the schools actively enforce? What the fuck is up with this shit.

>>323535082
Watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUYlqLlbix0

>>323535509
>yellow text isn't hard to read
Opinion. It was very hard to read.

>>323535351
90s by far. are you fucking kidding?

>>323534975
is shit in those pic.retard just copy pasted colours from some urushihara image but he painted at random ignoring basic concepts such as volume an source coherence. common with tracers

>>323530827

>Literally Reddit: the cuckpost

Holy shit my sides.

>>323535630
Objectively you are incorrect. It's like arguing about colour theory.
Yellow is used because it's least likely to clash with anything going on on-screen, while still sticking out.

>>323534460
What the fuck that was him?!

>>323534460
I remember his long ass video series rant on shitty fan subbing.

>>323535485
>anime has taken a noseplant in quality
The quality of TV animation has actually improved. If there's one thing in modern animation that's dying out, it would be 2D mechanical animation. CGI is just too good of a fit for rigid forms.

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>>323535596
You don't have to know how to draw to be an animator or artist anymore.

>>323535503
It's not as prevalent these days, now that official sub streams have gotten popular. But back in the day a lot of shonen anime was plagued by stupid shit like that

>>323535801
>The quality of TV animation has actually improved.

In what way?

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Compare Otaking, literally a one man animation studio, to >>323535645

>>323534282
The futa version is horrible.

>>323535924
his art always looked off to me

like it's too clean or something

>>323535845
So true. And we've actually been on this track for decades. The foreword on Richard Williams' book written decades ago already talked about how art colleges were killing off drawing classes.

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>>323535758
>Yellow is used because it's least likely to clash with anything going on on-screen, while still sticking out.

>>323536014
it's literally 70's anime without grain. It needs grain to look natural

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>>323535924
>compare X to Toei not giving a shit
Toei's fairly competent when they actually put in the time and money. Kyousougiga and the Precure movies are both fairly well-animated.

>>323535921
The animation, of course. Most of it is still cheap shit, but the number of scenes with notable animation is greater in TV anime of today. In the 90s and older it would be unthinkable to have a TV anime with animation on the caliber of One Punch Man, Space Dandy, or Nichijou for instance.

>>323535350
>>323535630
Light yellow with black outline is the optimal subtitle color.

/v/, please stop.

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>>323530503
I really like what Otaking does, and I think he's an alright guy. Still, it's really hard for me to take his opinions on anything seriously, for obvious reasons.

>>323536085
There's nothing wrong with white subtitles. But yellow subtitles were around for a reason.
One autistic tripfag not being able to read them not withstanding

>>323533650
I'm with the guy until he brought up Disney
Let's be real, Disney is the gold standard for animation

>>323535503
It's not as much these days, but the I think the one that still does this (on top of their translations being shit to mediocre) is TV-Nihon, who do a lot of Kamen Rider subs. EVERY goddamn special attack or henshin has some awful looking special effect, and it's annoying as fuck because they hardsub and are the only ones who've done a lot of KR.

>>323536138
So you're talking about anime then? Either way, sounds to me like you're just assuming that without any real knowledge.

>>323536126
Reminder that the main demographic for this show are supposed to be little girls.

>>323535351
Not enough noodle arms in the 10s kid.

>>323536314
Was.
Disney's what inspired the art style that evolved into anime today, so I agree with you. I just feel like I need to point out that they WERE the gold standard.

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>>323535845
Looks like garbage m8. Those rotoscoping old animation techniques are outdated, the quality of TV animation is better than ever

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>>323536314
Animation, yes.
But shading? They simply don't do it.
In a perfect world we'd have Disney quality fluid framerate, but with art like this.

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>That shitty anatomy

Geez is he even Loomis?

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>>323536382
I don't think you understand that it's just as popular with young adult men, and they know it. Cute girl shows can be the shit, anon. You're missing out.

>>323536454
>Disney's what inspired the art style that evolved into anime today
You mean same-face syndrome and clunky-poor movement animation?

Quality eastern animation is just as sparse and quality western animation

>>323536461
That new scooby doo cartoon reminds me of B^U.

>>323536461
>those last two rows on the bottom
Wow, Seth must be pretty well off by now.

>>323536461
Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with animation at all anymore.

>>323536546
>blood from a stone
that looks cool as fuck

but i don't care about mahou shoujo

>>323533208
XXXTREME ANGLES =/= good animation

Fucking sakugafags don't even know what makes them good.

>>323536454
Literally didn't - it inspired what anime looked like when it was copying Disney and taking inspiration from there as well. That is to say, it inspired anime that looked identical to Disney cartoons at the time. It had no further influence outside of Americanized bullshit like Ghibli.

>>323536546
Yes, I know that this is popular with other people, but as far as I remember when reading about it the show was supposed to be aimed at little girls.

>>323536380
It's true. There's some good stuff in old TV shows, but none of them have the consistency of the best modern counterparts.

>>323533808
>Keep in mind he romanticizes low budget ovas from the 80s

The ones he romanticizes weren't low budget. They had 3x the budget of an average anime tv show and had really good animation. Cyber City oedo for example. there were tons of low budget ovas but no one likes or cares for those.

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>>323536649
Am I the only one who likes otaking's girls?

>>323536461
Whats the fifth show down on the right?

>>323536572
Nobody brought any of that fucking up. I know damn well the only reason why Eastern > Western right now is Quantity. Chill the fuck out, nobody started slinging anything. I was talking about the artstyle. Go check out some 70s or older anime series and you'll completely understand.

>>323533132
I like XCX but I've gotten so used to "PRESS B NOW" because I played XC for over 100 hours that I didn't even notice there were QTE's for a long time.
And now it bothers me again.
Fuck.

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>>323536113
>70's anime without grain
What 70's anime were you watching. I agree that the grainlessness is where the strangeness comes from but to me it looks very heavily late-80's/early-90's inspired.

>>323536759
The degenerate one about a crossdressing boy.

>>323536126
>Precure movies

Even the regular series has god tier fight scenes once in a while. You can definitely see where Toei has it's priorities.

>>323536750
>girl

>>323536759
Fetish bait for trapfags

>>323536454
>Disney's what inspired the art style that evolved into anime today
Anime influences stem from more than just Disney.

>>323536816
SPACE RUNAWAY IDEON

IDEON

>>323536835
that one made my dick hard

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Get them, I'm bored, I'll call Ittin.

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>>323533650
>5-tone shading
>hi-light, base colour, shade1, shade2 and black
>black is an armpit hair

>>323536461
>everything's flat
>everyone stands in a line
>everyone has the same blank expression

No depth, no camera placement, no personality, no nothing.

It's like I'm really witnessing the slow death of an artform.

Thanks, Seth MacFarlane.

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>>323536680
It's aimed toward little girls while also being general enough to appeal to the rest of their families too.

It's as much for young adult men as Kamen Rider is for young adult women/MILFs, which is why Riders nowadays are young, handsome men.

cringe thread?

>>323536461
>that new scooby
jesus, even the hanna-barbera cartoon looked better and that was definition of cutting corners

>>323536835
>>323536846
I need a name

>>323536794
Actually I'm no /co/-fag but I've noticed despite having retardedly simplistic, inferior artstyles compared to anime, Cartoon Network shows still have better animation than most anime shows that air each season. At least CN shows move by more than 2 frames per second.

>>323536903
dadadadadada
>dundundun
dadadadadada
https://youtu.be/Y0MAY-8oo5U

Okay /v/ I'll watch your gay and dated anime
Tell me which ones have GOAT animation, besides Akira and EVA because I've seen those

>>323537032
the one thing western animation has over the nips is lipsyncing. even the most bottom of the barrel west shit has lipsyncing, where it's a near miracle if nippon does it

>>323536998
I scrubbed it from my brain.

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>>323536992
Fuck you, there is literally nothing wrong with hanna barbera's animation

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>>323535596
As someone who went to an art school to study animation for 2 years, I can tell the one and only reason it's like that is because of the budget. Old animation was more detailed, frame-by-frame, so it was way more expensive and needed more time to be made.

Why would you do that now in a kids show when you can just make some vectored images and reuse them over and over (2015 mickey, Gumball, etc) or just make simple non-natural and exploitable proportions (adventure time, regular show) that you can deform however you want and it's way cheaper?

>>323536461
>putting spongebob movie in with all that other garbage
drink bleach

>18m ago
Wait, when did he actually draw her? I saved the bottom image about half a year ago, when someone posted her on a thread.

Don't forget, otaking can sing too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWveD1J_b4o

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>>323536642
>Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with animation at all anymore.

>>323536664
Itano Circus will never not be the hypest shit.

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>>323537184
>mfw reading about how hanna-barbera characters had collars to make it easier to animate
that gif is a great example

>>323537262
I guess he never uploaded it and just kept it as /v/ content.

>>323535596
The TV networks love this type of garbage since there's less chance of those koreans fucking it up.

>>323537180
>where it's a near miracle if nippon does it
Like Akira and most Ghibli anime?

>>323537229
It's the exact same framing and angle as everything else there. That was the point of the picture.

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>>323537351
yeah, that's a good way of going about making 4chan content

>draw something
>post it on 4chan
>post it on whatever else you use a year or so later

>>323537285
>Not posting the MOST DANGEROUS performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piwgMgw6sL4

Otaking is a fucking mad man.

>>323537032
The number of frames is not the sole determinant of what makes animation good. Many TV cartoons are very "animated" with lots of movement going on, but most of it is inexpressive and robotic.

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>>323536992

Nobody will ever defend Hanna Barbera's animation, but the artstyle itself was way more pleasing to the eye than generic Flash animation. Nowadays Western cartoons are drawn with simple circles and rectangles then call it a day.

>>323537180
Anime is universal.
Americucks are so selfcentered they hardcode the language by lipsyncing.

>>323537335
That's a funny meme, friend.

>>323537335
I know that anime girl on the left side of his monitor. I have fapped to that artist's work several times.

>>323537032
There's no room for saying that when all the west does is flash animation now.
Shit, with the increasing use of obnoxiously bad 3D in anime, the east doesn't have it much better, so don't misunderstand me.

>>323537180
Well, something's gotta give when you're working with an average of 5000 drawings for 20 minutes.

>>323531339
>You are a child at the present time
when did anyone ever say this?

>>323537184
It's weird, on the pure technical level it's shit, but there's something charming in it

>>323537131
Goddamn, that's some horrifyingly entry level stuff.

Trust me, I'll ease you into this. Watch these:

>Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
People still don't believe that this movie wasn't rotoscoped (traced.) It's about a cop in a dystopic alternate-history japan who can't bring himself to kill in the line of duty and the fallout of his failure to shoot a terrorist agent. It's got a good English dub if subs bother you.

>Ghost in the Shell
>Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
These movies are top-tier science-fiction and are also very pretty. They both have solid dubs too. In my opinion the sequel is actually better than the original but it's a bit polarizing. They're about cops in the future dealing with cyborg related stuff.

>Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise
The first in-house project from the makers of EVA and in my opinion their best, and also the highest budget on an anime before Akira came out. This movie's a lot like that movie Contact, only prettier, more thoughtful, and made first. I particularly like the English dub on this one, Brian Cranston's in it.

>Redline
This one's (in)famous for taking 7 years to animate. It's very cool looking though. It's about car racing in the future. If you liked The Wachowski's Speed Racer you'll like this. It's got a very solid English dub too.

>>323531339
>>323530827
>shitpost-chan is a cute 90s girl
I LOVE YOU SHITPOST-CHAN

>>323537431
yeah, akira which was a hundred years ago and ghibli films with millions of dollars in budget

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>>323537484
Fuck Kotaku, literally.

>>323537676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y90bDDLO094

>all this hate for Flash
It's a fine tool for digital 2D animation as long as it's used right. Flash can be used to draw frame-by-frame as well.

>>323537638

That's cool but who is she?

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>>323537131
>Okay /v/ I'll watch your gay and dated anime

what are you even talking about man

>>323537701

>responds in kind with equally accessible stuff

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>>323537701
>Brian Cranston's in it.

He's also in Macross Plus, which everyone should also see.

>>323537729
Yeah they're rare, what's your point

>>323537770
>as long as it's used right.
When's that?

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>>323537180
>wasting money on animating lips
Also, I noticed Japan's getting better with 3DCG and integrating it with digital animation. A great example of this is Etotama's transformation scenes where the characters transform into their chibi 3D versions.

>>323534504
I would much rather have those yellow subs than special effects bullshit which can be actually hard to read at times depending on the bullshit fonts they use

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>>323537823
>>323537701

>dubs

>>323537725
I wish shitposters were cute gurlz and not unshaved virgins like me

>>323530503
when you're right, you're right. It's funny how many people are going to backlash about this because of some misplaced sense of belonging or ownership.

>>323537823
>what's your point

i already stated it

for the record, i'm not saying west shit is better, they both do different things better than the other when it comes to animation

>>323537831
Pretty Cure's weird now.

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>>323536537
post ur work

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>>323534819
Even though it's not saying much, it has the best combat of any MMO so far save for Vindictus due to that being limited instanced and whatnot.

>>323537916
fuck off, literally no one itt is saying anything bad about her

>>323537831
Are you trying to say that's an example of good animation? That's funny, man.

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>>323537903
Don't even bother arguing it here, they'll just call you a weeb. There's literally no point in bringing up am argument.

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>>323537807
This thread is all about older anime with superior shading and animation and attention to detail, right? I'm saying I'm willing to watch whatever people think are good examples of 80s/90s anime with great shading and animation if they want to namedrop some titles.

>>323537823
>When's that?
For western cartoons, there's Motorcity. As for anime, an increasing amount of young animators have been drawing using Flash. One Punch Man, Yozakura Quartet, and Birdy Decode have significant amounts of digital key animation.

>>323537831
Toei needs to raise more Hosodas. Preferably ones that don't share his defect.

>>323537903
>implying the GiTS english dub haven't always been as good as the originals.

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>>323538091

It hasn't.

>>323538041

I'll just gloat over them like the lesser beings they are.

>>323538059

So you just want recommendations, is that it?

>>323531339
>Ika Musume costume never
I remember when we thought that

Truly, miracles do happen

>>323538181

>Gits Jap dub

Nigga pls

Everyone sounds the same

:V

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>>323538059
>superior shading and animation and attention to detail
Eeehhh, I'd argue that people are cherrypicking examples when they're talking about shading and animation from the past. Animation and the amount of detail nowadays is fine. Also, recommendations go to that new recommendation board.

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You know how you get elementals for different materials? Requesting an elemental that is the physical manifestation of autism.

>>323538181
>So you just want recommendations, is that it?
Yeah, why not?

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>>323537701
>Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
If that anon's looking for fancy shading he'll be disappointed.

>>323538303

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

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>>323538348

>>323537807
>responds in kind with equally accessible stuff
Yes, that was the idea. Didn't you read the top of my post?

>I'll ease you into this
I've seen too many anons ask how to get into anime and then get hit with Revolutionary Girl Utena-tier shit. It's great, but not how you start.

>>323538348
Why would you take recommendations from some weeb who jerks to Lucky Star?

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>>323538181
I don't want to get pissed off at /v/ any more tonight, and if you start a sub v dub argument, /v/'s shitty opinion is going to piss me off again.

>>323538336
>recommendations go to that new recommendation board.
LMFAO

>>323533208
rotoscoping is cool but its honestly a huge waste of time

even if you're "fast" you can spend several hundred hours on less than a minute's worth of animation

>>323538460
Lucky Channel is worth watching.

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>>323538439
>It's great, but not how you start.

Most people will probably not even get into the medium at all. They'll just watch one maybe two of the things listed and then crawl back to their garbage moba games where they'll spend the rest of their life wallowing in online mediocrity in one tiny arena set up to steal their time.

>>323538461
>getting mad at the opinions of autists.

kek

>>323538486
I don't know what you're trying to imply, that's literally what the board is there for.

>>323535351

>western animation

I have literally never seen a western cartoon where I thought "yeah, that looks good."

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>>323538560

>>323538620
That's only natural when you're an autist.

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>>323538617
I think they're more likely to stay if you recommend stuff that's flashy and impressive first. And Jin-Roh is a pretty damn solid movie even if it is entry level. It's a shame Oshii didn't get to direct it and it wasn't live-action but for what it is it's very good.

>>323534504
You mean dvd subs that are the right way to do them and how most movies are subbed officially? Such cancer, amirite?

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>>323538652
Could I interest you in a Moonbeam City

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>>323537795
She's an original character of the artist's, and prime fapping material.

>>323538629
>entire thread about ova/anime with good animation, dozens of poster
>hey guys, what are some titl-
>WOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD IT THERE SHITLORD, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED

>>323530827
1 MONITOR
2 KEYBOARDS
4 DOUBLE THE SHITPOSTING

>>323538808
it's an /a/-specific brand of autism, they can't help it

>>323538792
Doesn't look that good desu

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>>323538762

JinRoh is more sombre than flashy, though.

>>323538808

It's not as if a shitter like you will actually sit down and watch most of what's thrown out here.

>>323537965
Doesn't DDO have better combat?

>>323538805
gonna need source

>>323537823
>Macross Plus
Macross Plus is beautiful but I don't think that anybody should watch it before they see Super Dimension Fortress Macross, the tv version, not the movie. And the less you know the better.

I watched SDF Macross on a whim without knowing anything about it other than robots and it was amazing.

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>>323538808
That's not what's happening at all. You'll get much better response in the new recc board. I'm actually trying to help you out.

>>323538652
Batman TAS.

>>323537679
Charming art-style. I don't exactly know what happened, but production companies really pushed for charming, unique designs back in the day. Nowadays literally everything looks like a mix of Family Guy and Adventure Time.

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>>323538461

How does it make you feel when there are people ITT who most likely stream?

>>323538792

Can't say much about it without seeing it in motion. The style is nice, but style doesn't mean a lot without animation quality to back it up.

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>>323536461

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>>323537131
I'll add more on top of this fellow anon here >>323537701

>Sword of the stranger
Feudal japan, story about a samurai that runs from his past. Great coreographies and realistic battles overall.

>Cowboy bebop (anime and movie)
Greatly overrated, but that doesn't mean it's bad. The english dub was good enough for the english dubbers to make a cameo in the sequel. My personal favourite anime of all time but not for what you'd think. You can give it a shot to Samurai champloo if you liked it.

>One Punch Man
While the story is just a parody and most characters are just dumb and uninteresting, it probably has the best animation in fights (for an anime, that's it), specially the last one, being 4 minutes of non-repeated, non-talking battle in total. Don't tell anyone on 4chin about it tho as you'll get shit on.

>Any miyazaki movie (I recommend The Castle of Cagliostro)
While miyazaki is just Japanese Disney, CThe Castle of Cagliostro was on of his first and it's not an original concept as it's about Lupin III. Comfy as fuck movie and has great action.

>Vampire Hunter: D
Remake of the original Vampire hutner movie, great visuals, artstyle and pretty solid animation. Another of my Personal favourites.

>Satoshi kon's movies
Mostly rotoscoped, but they are amazing script-wise. Tokyo Godfathers is my favourite, but Paprika and perfect blue are also amazing

>Metropolis
Animated version of Metropolis writted by Osama Tezuka. Not that original as it's not an original story but still great.

>Steamboy
From Katsuhiro Otomo, who also made Akira. Steampunk and interesting, but not as good as Akira, I'd say.

This thread sure is video games.

>>323538792
That guy's face. I swear Desire looked exactly like that in an issue of Sandman.

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>>323539000
It makes me got you, I'm not going to get upset.

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>>323538872
Then there is no pleasing you.

>>323533773
Like Tiles

>>323539075
Next time you want to post like that, use sage. That's literally what it's for.

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>>323537335
>>323537638
Jin Jin is great.

>>323539075
4chan belongs to the weebs! Never should have come here!

>>323539051
>Cowboy Bebop
Outlaw Star is superior. It was one of my first animu's and I love it to death.

>>323539051
>>Satoshi kon's movies
>Mostly rotoscoped
No they're not. Rotoscoping is not a common technique at all.

>>323533650
nice cherry-picking.

>>323537335
>goosebumps, anthem, and momwine

I will never not laugh at this.

>>323536461
I watched so much Shezow when I was last in the hospital

It's on daytime TV here ALL the fucking time. Also... Grojband I think it's called? And new Spongebob. New Spongebob is fucking terrible.

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>watching anime for the animation instead of the plot and character development
and you're probably the same people that use the term moeshit to describe shows you think have no substance of merit, when doing the same thing yourselves.

>>323538991
Maybe they were trying to be creative with what they got working with low budget and such?

>>323539129
It looks like it's going to get canceled any minute, man. Also it's just Flash.

>>323538990
This is more like it. Shit still looks great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgWBvRmP1bc

>b-but a japanese animation studio worked on it
It counts, nigger

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>>323538789
>DVD subs
That reminds me, I'm still disappointed over the subbing job on Discotek's Teyandee release. Granted, it's good that they released it at all, and most of the subbing is good enough, but there's a goo d amount of censorship and mistranslation here and there.

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>>323537335
>>Thank you for reminding me why I don't bother with animation at all anymore.

That's literally the theme of the entire thread.

>>323539365
>b-but a japanese animation studio worked on it
Yeah, I never understood this argument, especially since everything, from Spongebob to Naruto, is animated in Asia, generally Korea, anyway.

>>323539365
Gargoyles had pretty good animation if I recall

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>>323539306
New SpongeBob is fucking awesome. Fuck outta here nostalgiafag

>>323539436
Then why are we fighting? Can we just commit mass suicude?

>>323538805
There's dicks there, fucking lying images.

>>323539398
>Master Wanko

>>323539336
>My taste is mature and sophisticated because I just finished Lactating Gay Homosexuals
The books are getting official translations, read them instead if you don't care for the heart of the medium. Having a mature story for mature audiences such as yourself doesn't make an anime patrician. "Plot and character development" are top tier pleb identifiers. You should have said storytelling.

Julius Caesar doesn't develop over the course of Julius Caesar, does that make the play bad? Or does the "plot" make up for that?

>>323539461
Most anime still has the key animation done locally. Episodes will be outsourced on occasion, but that's not the norm.

>>323537180
western animation is actually focused on animation. everything is much more fluid and free flowing. even fucking adult swim 10 minute stoner shows blow anime the fuck out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CH7-Q26g_I

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How do we cure /a/'s shit taste?

>>323539505
Is this actually from a newer episode?

>>323538943
c'mon anon, I put the artist's handle in the image name.

>>323539169
Yes they are, and so are you.

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>>323539336
Animation is not the reason you watch it, but surely helps.

Same way an artstyle, good soundtrack or gameplay mechanics makes you keep playing even if the story is shit.

>>323539591
why even pick sides?
honestly now. are you that insecure and empty?

>>323539505
It's so fucking terrible it made me wish I had died in that bed rather than recovered. I watched one entire episode and nowhere in it could I even identify an attempted joke. It's so bad it's not even just 'unfunny', it's totally unaware of what the series is and comes off as totally pointless as a result. Nothing fucking happened and none of it was entertaining in the least. For anyone who's interested to know, it was the episode where Krabs and Plankton tell their stories of how they started the restaurants in high school or whatever the fuck. God it was terrible.

>>323539486
>Gargoyles
Like Batman (and fuck, most shows) it depended on the episode. Sometimes it looks great, other times it was pretty rough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m8acr8vIHk

>>323530827
>>323530503
>Xbone controller and a Vita

it's the little things

>>323539591
The "action" is very bland but I like the warden's character animation.

>>323539638
KLK did a good job with such a meager budget. there's more to good animation than fluidity. and say what you will about choppiness in anime, but at least they actually produce shows, instead of bragging about stuff from the 40s.

>>323539638
>playing video games for anything but the mechanics
Story is entirely irrelevant. Shitty anime tropes sure helped me dump 600 hours into Guilty Gear XX. Generic Tolkien ripoff "lore" helped me dump 400 hours into Dota 2. Whatever CliffyB shit out 5 minutes before UT released sure helped me enjoy that game as well.

>>323539638
Please don't post KLK and mention animation.

>>323539719
ironic considering your worthless post

>>323539592
Some kind of new site feature to cull newfaggots and encourage elitism and tribalism. Maybe a minimum lurking period of two years and condition /a/ posters to hate 99% of anime. Like how /lit/ used to be before the /sci-fi/fantasy/ took root and poisoned it.

Really, it's probably too quick for its own good. The only civil and decent boards are the slow ones.

>>323539336
too bad most of it is just filler by saying the same shit in different words to keep everything under budget by using the same 3 frames for 12 minutes

>>323531339
>her right foot is literally floating off the ground
Shit art

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>>323539591
yes but do they handle the tough issues?

the answer is no

>>323533650
>Bullshots: the cuckpost

>>323533650
I agree with him a bit on this, as in shading when done well looks fantastic.

But the problem Otaking doesn't really seem to notice is that multiple tone shading on digital animation often comes off quite weird, look at his own work with Planet 55 Studios and the Tie Fighter, the shading doesn't blend well with eachother and that late 1980s anime style comes off as just wrong.

It also doesn't help that Otaking doesn't seem to have the best artwork and doesn't know how to do perspective well when it comes to characters, you can tell his work heavily uses tweens.

http://planet55studios.com.au/prisoner-zero/

This is an Otaking TV series coming out and you can see what I'm talking about. It looks really "MSPaint" and just off and heavily using tweens even though this show had actually quite a budget behind it.

What should I show an arthouse hipster If I wanted to get him into anime?

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>>323539559
Reminds me of someone.

>>323538652
Heavy Metal: The movie? Don Bluth? Ralph Bakshi?

>>323539995
mind game

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>>323539894
Never said KLK was good or anything. I watched it and clearly saw it's flaws. As >>323539863 said, it did a good job with the budget it had, at least with animation. I just like how that pic is colored. KLK overall wasn't very good imo.

>>323539880
Yeah, my point was that these things help to keep going.

>>323539995
Anthologies like Genius Party and Animator Expo. Also, anything by Masaaki Yuasa.

>>323539914
how is it ironic?
every post here is worthless.

you should know that by now.

>>323539591
wow so i watch that clip you posted

animation is top notch

but it's pretty gross all those guts and shit

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>>323539625
"Heart-pounding new life" is the reason why i once wore a dress and sticked a permanent marker in my ass It wasn't as nice as i thought it would be so i never did it again

>>323533208
This is flashy but it lacks weight
There are no real "beats" to speak of, it all just kinda mushes I to each other.
Look at that running animation at the start, geez

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Remember kids... deliberate, STRONG key frames is what makes your animation look interesting. Every frame where a character goes from one action to the next needs to have a sense of weight and exaggeration. This is taught in every school of animation but the japs were pretty good at stylizing it (probably due to budget constraints)

>>323539880

>Story is irrelevant in non story based games

No shit sherlock.

>inb4 "I also play JRPGs for the gameplay" or alternately, "story based games are shit"

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>>323539921
>/jp/
>civil

>>323540072
I can't stand how tryhard all "adult" western cartoons are.

all of them. there's not a single one with any subtlety or maturity.
it's embarrassing.

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>>323539995

>>323540034
>Ralph Bakshi

Coonskin and Last Days of Coney Island were terrible.

>>323540198
Moral Orel.

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>>323540137
Kanada style is nice, but the Japanese realists are cool as well.

Isn't summer a myth?

>>323539591

Animator here.

Western animation uses more animation frames but in 99% of cases it's computer-generated inbetweens with absolutely zero effort or personality, and there's no such thing as cinematography or choreography, just characters moving like smooth robots around a static background.

Anime cuts down on the framerate and lipsync so they can actually put effort into what really matters.

>>323540252
More talking Fire and Ice

>>323540198
Yeah cause when i want SUBTLETY...i think anime. Anime is literally used as a term to describe flashy bullshit.

>>323540074
gotta stick a cucumber next time.

much better.

>>323540137
This. Nips are also god tier at timing in-betweens. It always amazes me how stuff animated on threes can look as fluid as it does in animu.

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>>323540320
>Anime cuts down on the framerate and lipsync so they can actually put effort into what really matters.

and what exactly would that be

>>323532720
I wanna fuck anime CIA.

>>323538617
>muh animu is da bes fukin normies dont like it ree :(

some people don't like what you do

>>323539995
>Angel''s Egg
If he's the 2deep4u kind of hipster who talks about Mulholland Drive a lot.
>Legend of the Blue Wolves
If he likes Derek Jarman films.
>Bobby's In Deep AKA Bobby's Girl
For all the rest.

For the record all three of these are in my opinion really good, but they're also out there and a bit experimental.

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>>323539995

>>323539575
>Lactating Gay Homosexuals
Your ad hominem does not make the show any worse. I have already read the books, actually. I mostly watched the anime to see what would get changed in the adaptation, as I do with many works I have enjoyed. I did the same with Of Mice and Men, despite not caring much about cinematography.
>"Plot and character development" are top tier pleb identifiers
I guess you wanted me to say that "boobies and pretty colors" are what real men like?
>>323539946
Most anime doesn't cover important issues either. You know most of the anime people on 4chan circlejerk about involve le cute girls or le awesome fightan.

>>323540246
I always feel I need to rewatch it one day because I was too young back then and didn't even understand what it was all about, but I don't think I'll be able to stomach all that depressive tone again.

>>323540252
you prolly got mad that the sheriff daughter got fugged by coons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmWoNohhXBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoNsVMExg1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d02eaGpIGME

dont understand why these got split into 3 vids but whatever

also the opening song is gold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIZboQw1zA

>>323540191
Well, they have a strong culture, I'll give them that.

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>>323540416
See
>>323540473

>>323536948
This has pretty much been the standard for 'limited animation' since The Flintstones. If you want to blame anyone blame Hanna-Barbera.

>>323540285
You know /v/ would call that show fedora if it were new.