>>323516402 Hulk vs Kratos: Hulk Black Widow vs Laura: Hmmm... Not sure Iron Man vs Master Chief: Iron Man Hawkeye vs any Assassins Creed Assassin: the Assassin Thor vs Dante: Dante (I don't think electricity bothers him) Cap vs Snake: Snake since he provably won't go face him head on and stealth kill/knockout.
>>323516402 Hulk vs Kratos - Has much as Kratos has pulled off some shit, Hulk would win. Hulk has been through worse.
Widow vs Lara - Widow has had far more training. Whether we're talking about new Lara or old Lara, she wasn't anywhere near as deadly as Widow.
Iron Man vs Master Chief - It would be pretty close. If Tony is allowed to have access to his endless weaponized options, then Tony wins. Otherwise, Chief wins.
Hawkeye vs Altair - In standard combat, Hawkeye due to technological advantages. In stealth and assassination, Hawkeye has been picking off Altairs for years.
Thor vs Dante - It would be close, but Thor due to sheer strength.
Captain vs Snake - I love Cap, but Snake would have this. Cap is a super soldier, and Snake has taken down far worse soldiers. That said: They'd probably quit fighting and go to a bar to share stories.
>>323518558 Thor has taken nuke level explosions to the face. A bullet couldn't hurt him. Again, I said 'it would be close'. Maybe I'm wrong, but either way, I'd definitely say either would be capable somehow.
>>323518569 In one on one I could see Chief taking him down. Tony's arrogant, a shittalker, and really just a millionaire with a toy. Chief's done so much shit it's unbelievable, is disciplined, and is a motherfucking Spartan trained to take down dicks as powerful as Tony. If Tony brings in War Machine or other suits, yeah, it goes to Tony, but then Chief can too.
>>323517995 Absolutely, halo takes place 500 years in the future, and cortana is built for infiltrating and manipulating alien technology, iron man's suit and any AI systems would not only be way below her, but would be much more familiar then actual alien tech which she has no problem with.
I don't remember the exact values but in the books it''s pretty well established that smart AI's can process like a petabyte of data in a picosecond or some equally ridiculous number, and are almost fully sentient and sapient.
>>323517498 Well shit. I think Altaiir beats both sides then.
However, with my limited knowledge, here's my thoughts.
>Kratos. If you remove Hulks immortal BS. >Really don't know. Going to say Lara cause Black Widow does fuck all outside of "assassin work" in the movies. >Chief. He's actually trained. And purely on combat. Stark has his suit, and intelligence, however not much experience, and very little outside of earth. Also, Chiefs tools are powerful outside of games(due to balancing.) MA5B is 7.62x51. Considered battle rifle level today. >Probably Hawkeye. Unless Altair has some tricks for dealing with archers. Which is entirely possible. >Thor. >Should be Captain. Not just the shield, but never tiring while having superhuman strength is big. And in gun to gun combat, should be decently close.
>>323516402 Are those pairings matchups? Because that's easy to resolve.
Winners: Kratos (smarter than Hulk and has killed tougher than him) Widow (more combat experience and better tech) Iron Man (Chief is good at killing bugs and aliens with swords but Stark has better weapons/armour/mobility/etc.) Hawkeye (way better in direct combat, unless Altair gets the drop on him which I don't see happening) Dante (Thor just powers through his opponents, Dante can dodge or shrug off most of his attacks and is far more creative in battle) Snake (close one, but Snake's had more experience fighting weird shit)
In the end vidya just has more heavy hitters than Mahvel, MAYBE Hawkeye/Widow could take out Kratos/Dante with enough prep time and some bullshit SHIELD/Stark tech, but it's extremely unlikely, and Snake would sabotage and long term plans.
Now if they all fight in the same place at once, things fall more towards Mahvel's favour. The Avengers have higher team cohesion. Lara and Altair wouldn't last a heartbeat, Snake and Chief would do better but ultimately get worn down. Kratos and Dante are problems, but Hulk and Thor can survive anything they hit with for a good long while, time enough for Iron Man and the other survivors to come up with a good plan.
>>323519964 I know, you just have to count training and personality. And the fact is Stark is a billionaire with a toy vs. an actual fucking man trained to be the best soldier in the galaxy, pretty much. Chief kills armies like nobody's business and pretty much nothing phases him.
>>323519369 Well not entirely. Though from my knowledge of super heroes, and how they all seem to have multiple universes; presumably the single most powerful being in his world. Similar to the chief really. However, judging by the banter between Jarvis, and Tony, his suit isn't powered indefinitely. Chief has nuclear power on his back, which if I remember right, could power the suit for a century. Comparing Cortana to Jarvis/Tony, she may also have the power to infiltrate his suit. Literally, almost exactly what she was made for. If he has Covenant weapons,chief also has energy based weapons, which would damage Stark. All opinion, but it's fun to consider the effect of an overcharged Plasma Pistol. Or a Gauss hog. That's one overpowered fucker in itself.
>>323519964 Even if Chief could hurt Iron Man, it wouldn't matter. Chief relies on slow-ass recharging shields to survive damage. That means taking cover. Iron Man can just blow away almost any cover and keep shooting. His damage output is just too strong.
>Hulk vs Kratos Hulk. I don't care if Kratos crawls back out of hell to fight him again, Hulk will eventually get tired of it and throw him into space or something. >Black Widow vs Lara Croft Lara is dead. Dead dead dead. >Iron Man vs Captain King I love Chief, the man is my nigga. But he's gonna die, and there's nothing he can do to stop Tony from killing him. >Hawkeye vs Altair Altair actually has a decent chance, but Hawkeye will probably take it. >Thor vs Dante If it's MCU Thor, Dante can win. If it's comics Thor, Dante will most likely die painfully. >Cap vs Snake Cap embarrasses Snake in a hand to hand fight, with or without the shield.
Okay people. Let's look at Chief according to the books, and not the game, which weakens things due to balancing reasons.
Kidnapped at six. Started training with a hundred pushups, situps, jumping jacks a day.(Day one. It presumably increased tremendously). By fourteen, the body of an Olympic champion. As well as trained in the art of war. Given drugs to increase reactions, muscles, bone density, etc. Able to kill an ODST vet with a single punch(If he wanted to). Over dozens of missions completed, the beginnings of which were against humans, as he was made for. Given Mjolnir Mk V. Power armour with energy shields. Able to withstand small arms fire like nothing, fifty cal for a bit, and even survive a missile literally slapped away by chiefs hand. At this point Cortana was also a help. Boosting the chief/suit connection speed even further. Able to jump ten feet in the air, lift a ton, run half as fast as a hog, and dodge bullets due to reactions. Also a genius military tactician, does not rely on energy shields, as proven in "First Strike", but his own intellect, and skill. Better tech outside of this as well. Book wise, the guns are far more powerful than today's arms. Hell, they have a nuke about as big as a football.
Annnnyyways, I'm drunk. So if you factor in Chiefs Luck (which has actually been a focus since the beginning), then you can't really ignore the chief.
>>323521271 It isn't even just a leg, if you get under the gigantic mech that looks like a fortress it will drop on your but BB will put his hands up and catch it. The thing is as tall as like a 10 story building
>>323523308 And chiefs suit reacts in fractions of milliseconds?
As in, if you put it onto a non augmented human, (Tony, for example), it would react so fast, that a limb would move faster than the limb of the person inside of it, and break said limb. And the person inside, reacting in pain, would keel over, and destroy even more parts.
The suit, would literally kill the person wearing it if they weren't fast enough.
>>323521903 If we're talking movie Iron Man vs Vidya Chief then Tony gets fucking wrecked. His suit might as well be made from tissue paper and any hard hit can do massive damage Compared to Chief who can survive re-entry into the atmosphere and then get up and walk it off with no issues. The only thing Iron Man really has going is he can fly but Chief could just shoot him down with a Laser.
>>323524472 >>323523548 For fuck's sake you guys. I love Halo, but Chief does not stand a chance in hell. He can't fly, he can't shoot repulsors out of his hands, he can't break the speed of sound from a dead stop in a couple seconds, and he can't lift hundreds of tons. It doesn't matter if Chief has a Spartan Laser on his back while piloting a Scarab. Tony will win. The best Chief can do is dodge blasts and try to go for hand-to-hand when Iron Man gets in close. He doesn't have any of the firepower necessary to actually put a dent in Tony's suit.
>>323524214 Snake is more than just an armed person. He's extremely resourceful and tactical, and was basically created as a soldier who can adapt to almost any situation. If Cap has any weakness, you can be damn sure Snake would find them.
And while I'm not really a fan of GoW, Kratos is pretty OP, I wouldn't rule him out just like that.
>>323522907 That's really not even close to impressive.
To put things in perspective, following >>323518926 , that's 10000000000000000000000000000 bytes per second.
That's a full 4 digits above a yottabyte (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yottabyte), which is 1000x a zettabyte, which is twice as much as the entire internet in 2009, which is 500 exabtytes, (and 1 exabyte is 1000 petabytes)
Cortana goes through as much processing in a second that a million humans would go through in their entire lifetimes.
>>323524265 It's in the fall of reach, i'll try to find it. There's also a great moment where a 14 year old cheif, fresh out of his augmentation surgery, and without any armor, thinks the ship's artifical gravity is fucked up because the weight bar he's going to use seems to drop down to the ground in slow motion, before he he accidentally kills a group of fully grown, adult ODSTs (the halo equivalent to top line special forces units) that were sent in to rough him up as a test.
Another SPARTAN 2, Linda, sniped pilots out of airfraft while hanging upside down from another aircrraft herself. and she DIDN'T have an AI.
Iron man's suit is way ahead of Cheifs (all the people saying cheif's is better are delusional) due to halo being a lot more grounded then most fiction, it's almost hard scii fi in the books, but there;s no questioning that chief can think and react way faster then iron man can if both are without AIs, and with AIs, cortana is way, way ahead of Jarvis or Ultron.
>>323524962 I agree, in suit, and in control of it, Iron man would absolutely have a tremendous advantage, but again, cortana would almost certainly be able to take control of tony's suit. Not only is she literally half a millennium more advanced then JARVIS, she's built for infiltration, against fucking aliens at that.
>>323516402 Chief could beat Tony if he has the equipment to do so. But being weaponless would just be a stalemate. Tony >Can fly, which is a titanic plus >has a gorillian suits >has vibranium/adamatium in at least one suit, no doubt >JARVIS >unlimited ammunition/energy projection Chief >insanely strong, with armor multiplying this >regenerating shields and reactive force dispersing crystalline liquid in his suit >Spartan Time >Cortana >insanely fast for his size >can take an antitank round to anything but the head and survive
>>323523616 iirc, in the fall of reach books, there are some iprototype versions of the MJOLNIR with some mooks killing themselves in it around the middle of the book, so it can be assumed that later versions of it that spartans wear would be even more advanced and powerful
at least replace him with Samus to give the vidya side a hint of a chance oh and put someone like say Asura up against the Hulk, otherwise that feller is just going to smash through everything and everyone
>>323526317 >>323526715 I should add that Tony in Marvel comics beats literally everyone ever, so does Hulk and Spidey. You can't really even compare them because they have limitless boundaries unless you take the movie characters.
Read the books nigger It'd take you a few hours max to read any of the novels if you have a reading speed above middle school levels. If you don't give that much of a shit about it then fuck off and leave the halo general knowledge to people who do
>>323526017 All of the stuff he's doing in that image later (6, 7 and Gen 2) versions of MJOLNIR armor can do. Iron man suit is def way ahead in terms of armor and weaponry, but in terms of stuff like biometrics and sensors they are on par, and in terms of AI, again, cortana is just hundreds of years ahead.
>>323526118 actually, I hadn't thought of that: what's the caliber of ammo that Iron man and war machine suits have? Is there a power output that's listed anywhere for his lasers?
All of the guns in halo have specific calibers and a few of the plasma weapons have voltage and amps and shit listed.
>>323526615 >>323526648 Dude asura would just splatter the hulk into shunks by tapping him, that's not fair. Asura vs fucking goku would end with goku losing.
And don't go the hulk just gets stronger the angrier he gets, Asura's shit works literally exactly the same way except asura has a much, much, much higher base line. When asura was not very angry he fucking punched a monster the size the moon to death with 1 hit, when he actually got angry he blew up somebody the size of the planet.
He literally gets so mad and so angry his anger destroys his own body and breaks reality, and him punching god to death is what makes the big bang.
It does mean MC who in-game is slow as shit, and has weak-ass shields vulnerable to plasma weapons, gets his anus wrecked by Iron Man from a recent game, in the Silver Centurion suit that can fly and run crazy fast, and uses charged plasma repulsors.
>>323527154 how so? Tony's suits have a higher power baseline than even Samus's at their highest capacity, not to mention superior mobility but unlike MC, Samus herself can get somewhere close to one of the most recent Iron Man suits (probably with PED abuse, lots of it) and could if necessary start assimilating Tony's tech on the spot
>A flat video appeared in the air. It showed a Marine officer, a Lieutenant, being fitted with the MJOLNIR armor. “Power is on,” someone said from offscreen. “Move your right arm, please.”
>The soldier’s arm blurred forward with incredible speed. The Marine’s stoic expression collapsed into shock, surprise, and pain as his arm shattered. He convulsed—shuddered and screamed. As he jerked in pain John could hear the sounds of bones breaking.
>The man’s own agony-induced spasms were killing him.
>Halsey waved the video away. “Normal humans don’t have the reaction time or strength required to drive this system,” she explained. “You do. Your enhanced musculature and the metal and ceramic layers that have been bonded to your skeleton should be enough to allow you to harness the armor’s power.
Halo, Fall of Reach, Page 109
The stuff >>323525602 talks about with ODSTs is chapter seven of the same book.
Iron man's suit is so much better though it doesn't matter, as has been said MC's only hope is cortana
Good pic, but is there a character that could even possiblyEVENTOUCHMadara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I’m not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I’m not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’sDNAimplanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. . I’m also NOTTalking about him equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senjuimplanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye’s spinach. I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with KryptonianDNAimplanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan, doing 100 squats, situps, and pushups and running 1 mile EVERY DAMN DAY and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
>>323527018 >vs fucking goku Who gives a fuck about Goku? Why do people bring him up whenever power levels are brought up? He's Demi-god tier AT BEST, Silver Surfer or Darkseid could trash Goku. Compared to cosmic he's a fucking puppy.
>>323527326 I personally wouldn't use a quirky, 2D fighting game for this kind of discussion. It's harder to find vidya for jobbers like Hawkeye and Widow, but the main dudes all have their own action games to make comparison easier.
>>323527761 Yes, but we were talking about the hulk, which only gets to goku level in his more powerful incarnations.
anyways, point is, Asuraa is literally unkillable (he punches his way out of the undeworld) and limitlessly strong as long as he can stay angry, like the hulk, but starts out goku tier in his base state and ends up superman prime/the flash levels broken at his shown strongest, vs the hulk which starts out as merely superhuman.
>>323528000 Actually broly blew up a galaxy with a single attack in his first movie and that takes place in cell saga
>not canon Tori says movies take place in an alternate dimension, which is no less canon then alternate timelines like Future trunks's are, or the alternate universes in Battle of gods/Super, and pretty sure there's like hundreds of alternate universes in marvel and people in this thread are using them as examples.
Hoe often has Goku done that? 0 times. I'm not saying he can't hold his own, I'm saying he doesn't have the demeanor to. Goku would try to 1v1 Darkseid, Darkseid would blow up the planet he resides on.
>>323528531 >Update For one Goku doesn't need a planet to live. Second Goku doesn't blow up planets because he doesn't want to. But he damn well could blow up the milky way galaxy if he ever felt like it.
>>323529098 >Widow A game with her would have to be like a modernised Death By Degrees, and she'd probably just get Bamham combat along with the espionage shit. OP's match-up is still shit, CDLara wouldn't stand a chance.
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