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If the future him knew who the beast was why didn't he just kill him instead of his gf?
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>>323497894
Is it worth playing infamous 2 in both good and evil path or should I just skip to the ending and just switch there?

It's kinda boring.
Will I miss anything by doing the 2nd one?
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>>323497894

Kessler needed Cole to experience having to make a tough decision. If Cole was going to be the Savior/Ruler he needed to be able to make harsh decisions when it was necessary. He needed to be headstrong if he was going to do what it takes to take down the beast.

As for letting the beast live, I think Kessler wanted Cole to surpass the beast so he kept the beast alive as motivation for Cole to get stronger.

In all fairness though, if you give it enough thought the plot's a bit thin in places
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>>323498813
Doesn't the final flashback imply that the beast was too strong for Kessler by the time he decided he had to act?
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>>323497894
he didnt know
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>>323498813
Pretty sure in Kessler's timeline the beast just showed up and started wrecking stuff, he didn't know who he was.
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>>323498031
>Will I miss anything by doing the 2nd one?
yes, the entire first game leads into the second game.
its basically part 1 and 2
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>>323497894
He didn't know who The Beast was and he was pretty damn weak.
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kessler didn't know who the beast was. he was just living with his family when the beast emerged and started killing. they tried to run, but the beast hunted them down and killed his family. beast too strong, kessler too weak. he went to the past to make himself stronger and more ruthless so that the beast could be stopped as soon as he appeared.


and then suckerpunch fucked it all up in the last hour or so of infamous 2 by saying the beast aka john was only a mindless killer at first and after that, everyone who died was just a side effect of him activating other conduits' powers. (which he did to save them from the disease that was currently killing the world)

we had to kill him only because cole took a gamble and figured MAYBE using the device to kill all of the conduits would save everyone who wasn't born with the conduit gene. it worked and I guess more people lived than died, but he still killed COUNTLESS people. many of those people didn't even know they had the gene.

john's plan was at least guaranteed to save some people instead of dooming everyone.
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>>323507549
it pitted the player into choosing between 2 evils

both choices are shitty choices but one is the lesser
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>>323503729
>>323505796
Which is funny because the Dead Drops in inFAMOUS 2 imply that:

Kessler knew that John would become the Beast, and intentionally kept him alive to force Cole to become more powerful.

Which is all kinds of fucked up. Why not straight up act right then and there if you're certain?

It shows that Kessler is too far gone and truly fucked up as a human being, unlike Cole.

Also the general Tier list goes something like
>The Beast / Cole
>Kessler
>Delsin
>Eugene
>Alden
>Augustine
>Everyone Else
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>>323508873
In which dead drop that happens?
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>>323497894
>Kessler sets up two hostage areas
>One is trish, one is group of random people
>Save people for good run
>RIP trish
>Decide to do evil run and save trish
>lmao actually random person
Fuck that pissed me off
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>>323509794
lol same here
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>>323509520
It's the ones where John is recording his undercover working with the First Sons. He says that Kessler always looks at him and says really cryptic shit around him - especially when they're looking at the Ray Sphere, so yeah.

>>323509592
>>323509794
>>323509915
Pretty Much.
Both games had these moments to explain just how truly fucked up Kessler was as a person, and just how different Cole is as a result of his intervention.
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>>323509794
good, It made you want to kill Kessler even more.
exactly what he wanted
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>>323497894
I don't think he knew.

In his timeline the Beast just showed up out of nowhere, and since Kessler wasn't strong enough to face it, he desperately tried to run away and keep his familiy safe.
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>>323508873
If there as no Beast, Cole wouldn't have had enough motivation to keep getting stronger in case another big bad showed up.
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>>323510048
Interesting but then why would he tell Cole about the Beast after John "died" by the ray sphere?
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>>323497894
Future him didn't know who the beast was.
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Am I the only one that thinks they should have kept his original design in infamous 2
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>>323507549
The Infamous ending of 2 is the best.

It's a shame what happens to Zeke; but the idea of going full Magneto, and awakening all the conduits sounds cool as fuck.
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>>323511632

I hope so.
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>>323511251
See, this is where it gets complicated. The Dead Drops almost flat out state that it's John, but Kessler still told Cole about the Beast even thoug John just got fucking rektd by the Ray Sphere.

This means that Kessler had to know that John would come back or some shit.

Honestly, I just think Sucker Punch dropped the ball hard with the Beast.

>Wasn't scary or threatening
>Was more of a wuss who didn't want to kill people.
>Literally commits suicide in the Evil ending because of the deaths he caused

At the end of the original game, I thought we were going to be getting an irredeemable motherfucker who commuted genocide and raped corpses. This was all based on the ending Flashbacks from Kessler.

Instead, we got a tragic figure who somehow decided to fight Cole instead of just talk to him about the RFI. Why not since he's sick of this shit.

The Beast wasn't truly unnerving or terrifying. The intro to inFAMOUS 2 should've had Cole move into Empire City to find a human conduit drenched in blood and smiling at him - The Beast.

Pic Fucking Related.

From there, Cole should've hauled ass, coordinating with the Authorities to bomb Empire City into submission to stall the Beast or Contain him.
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>>323511632
Im glad they didnt, here he looks too similar to Nathan Drake

but I feel like 3rd from the left in pic would have been a good design. I like the surfer dude look
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>>323508546
>it pitted the player into choosing between 2 evils
until you have good karma all the way through, but want to make the evil choice at the end and the game doesn't let you

choices shouldn't be determined by karma you fucks, your choices should come first
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>>323511665
>we will never get a spin off sequel to the evil ending in Infamous 2
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>>323512201
draco malfoy?
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>>323512201
Don't understand the tape on his pants tho
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>>323512215
>until you have good karma all the way through, but want to make the evil choice at the end and the game doesn't let you
yes you can, every major choice is presented whether you are more good that evil or vice versa
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>>323512201
>>323511632

I honestly would've preferred this. In a choice between gravelly Jason Statham and Nathan Drake, I'll take Drake.

Yes Statham could play Cole in an inFAMOUS Movie.
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>>323512138
True it really pissed me off that Cole didnt told John about the RFI I mean I think John would let him do it even if conduits would die.
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>>323512382
thats not tape, its a design, its the UK flag
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>>323512402
it is presented but it doesn't let you make it. trust me I tried
I was good the whole game, wanted to side with the beast, the game said my karma wasn't the correct alignment and I would have to change my karma rating to make that choice
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>>323512382
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the Union Jack.

See >>323512496
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>>323511632
Yes.

I felt like shit when they transformed Cole into Nathan Drake.
The new Cole ended up being miles better.
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>>323512402
Nope.

In the final choice of 2, you have to grind all the way through if you want the ending of your opposite karma.
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>>323512818
>>323512582
I have to go back and play it now cause I dont remember that
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>>323512138

the flashbacks are irrelevant because they are of a different beast, there was no ray sphere in that timeline.
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>>323512583
here, i fixed that piece of shit
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>>323512491
That's the thing - He definitely would. John would be on board with that shit if the Evil ending is any indication.

The main problem of the game is that the true enemy is the Ray Field Plague, and The Beast is just a stepping stone for Cole to have enough power to wipe it out.

The Beast should've been the main fucking focus of the game. Something that literally kills anything it encounters and terrifies the shit out of everyone.

The finale should've been a simple:
>Good - Fight The Beast head on with the other Conduits, sacrifice yourselves in the process.

>Evil - Use the RFI to drain The Beast of his Power, assume his mantle and rape the Earth.

There, simple.
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>>323512201
>>323511632
Holy fuck these designs are disgusting. Thank god they kept his original look and just touched it up a bit.
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>>323512989
Great Job pham.

>>323512946
Literally who the fuck else could it be? The games have only pointed to John, unless you think it was evil Cole.

SP just fucked up his characterization in the sequel.
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>>323513017
The beast completely devastates the East Coast and it slowly coming towards you the entire game, and the plague is only getting worse in the process. It was a perfect set up bruh, kept me amped the whole fucking game.
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>>323512929
You probably never tried it.

I ended up in the same situation as >>323512582 and after realizing how much of a chore grinding for infamous status would be, I just went for the good ending.

In the end I prefer how the story plays out as a hero, but the evil ending is the one that I like the most.
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I assumed that the Beast was the inside the Raysphere and it attached itself to John when it exploded.
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>>323512583
>>323512989
Now its fixed
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>>323513017
I totally agree with you, they even give more credit to Bertrand and sometimes the game totally forgots his main porpuse, also the Beast was way easier than Kessler to beat even at hard difficult the Beast was still a pussy if you had all your powers.
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>>323513209
But towards the end of the game, everyone keeps worrying about the RF Plague because it could kill all normal people.

Nobody seems to worry about the Nigh-Eldricht Abomination that is at their doorstep and can also kill all normal people.
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>The Beast in in New Marais
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>>323513328
Whoops, I think you posted the wrong image by accident.

Don't worry though, I fixed it for you.
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know how you know you failed as a game dev? when people would rather discuss the games from last gen over the one from last year
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>>323513870
Because the newest one had nothing to do with the last two and kinda retconned the whole "People with powers will never exist ever again"
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>>323513870
Second Son was great, it but it wasnt as big as Infamous 2 interms of story
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>>323513727
I liked how they used live action recordings for the tv segments.
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>>323514023
what was with that? What was the explanation? did conduits start popping up again despite the ending of 2 or did it just not kill everyone like they thought it would?
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>>323513458
I still don't understand how Sucker Punch screwed this up.

A giant Lava Monster looks cool,but isn't that threatening since Cole's already destroyed giant monsters.

But a human conduit so powerful that they become a genocidal psychopath is interesting. If they're powerful enough to make Cole shit himself, then that actually creates tension.

What's more terrifying?

>A Giant Hulking Monster that blows up cities because it really wants to help everyone and is really ad all of the time.

>A monstrous human conduit who casually strolls into a city, rapes and kills everyone and spreads their mauled corpses across the city before casually burning it. He then laughs at the TV screens and casually strolls to the next city, taking his time to get to Cole.

I wonder.
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Did you guys like the voice acting of the first two games?

I played the game in spanish and I want to know if I missed out.
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>>323514437
It really wasn't anything special.
Generic voices all around.

Only one I really liked was Zeke
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>>323514281
I always figured since it was a singular pulse that deactivated people, if someone was well enough protected behind a barrier of some kind they may not have been hit by it
it only showed people standing outside being killed by it
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>>323513458
>>323514283
because at the end of Infamous 1 you are equal with Kessler, who was weaker than the beast, but you become stronger than him.
between Infamous 1 and 2 Cole has been training waiting for the moment the Beast would appear. putting him just below the Beast in strength. then after the events of Infamous 2 he surpasses the Beast in strength.

just as Kessler had planned
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Cole resurrection and wearing Kessler's clothes when? They seriously fucked up with how X-Men tier the powers became, and how conduits STILL EXISTED.
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>>323514283
Second one but I would be fine if at least its challenging
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>>323497894
Because he didn't know who the beast was
The Beast only revealed himself to Cole in Infamous 2 to try and bargain with him,
probably learning that cole had the potential to stop him so converting him was a better option
Kessler just ran like a little bitch and had to spend the rest of his life hiding to correct that one fuck up
He forced Killed his GF because that's what held him back the first time from fighting the beast, he knew Cole couldn't be weak when the time comes.
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>>323514759
Thats true but hell at least some twist on the Beast's power like he absorbed the RFI or something.
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Evil delsin is canon vs canon good Cole resurrection when?
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>>323514671
It may be bias, but I liked the spanish voice acting better.

I tried switching to english at some points, but the it never picked my interest.
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>>323515136
Evil Delsin is just a whiny emo

Good Delsin is leagues better
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>>323515493
True but I did love when he btfo his tribe at the end
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>mfw using Lightning/Ionic Storm
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>>323515136
Cole has too much combat experience. Besides, if he's got Kessler's powers under his belt, then Delsin is Royally Fucked.

Delsin would be the most powerful conduit if
>He could use multiple powers simultaneously
>Didn't need to absorb from a different source to switch
>Could master powers naturally without Blast Cores.
>Was actually competent.

No really, he could if he wasn't an idiot. Delsin's Brand of Power Mimicry is absolute shit. If it was like Marvel's Mimic or teh guy from Heroes, he would be literally unstoppable.
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>>323515764
>That stupid fucking dante face he makes when he does the dive bomb
>HE FUCKING DIVE BOMBS HIS TRIBE AT THE END
I lost it when that happened
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>>323504415
That's not what he's asking.
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>>323515764
I hated that, Betty was a sweetheart, and reminded me of my own Grandmother
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>>323498031
You get entirely different powers in each route.

Unless you really don't have enough time, I say you give it a go.
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>>323497894
>the future him knew

Kessler was mad. Kessler had a "human" wife and human children. Even if he knew that the Beast could cure the mutants, he didn't care.

My problem with the story of Infamous 2 is that it treats Cole as an empty puppet to fit the karma mechanic. Kessler in his anger kills Cole's future wife...before it's his wife and they have kids; so Cole without a family has has LESS of an incentive to save humans.

The way I would have preferred for infamous 2 to end is for Cole to save humanity but watch Kuo die besides him and think how he failed to save both women in his life. And in Kessler fashion he uses his last trick to go back in time and manipulate his original self to save the mutants. The good ending of infamous 2 is just disappointingly altruistic. Cole's only two persons of interest are Zeek and Kuo. It seems like bad writing that Cole ignores her. Western devs have totally anti climactic endings.
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>>323516186
Not the guy but Just read a synopsis to get caught up,
The gameplay in the second one is a lot better,
You're not missing out
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Did anyone else think the Beast was another future Cole but just the evil route

I knew it was too obvious but the Beast was bald so
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>inFamous thread
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>>323517151
this feels like an optical illusion
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>>323517151
>people like a good game I dont like
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>>323517226
Anon this is one of my favorite franchises.
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>>323504874
Fucking this. When Zeke betrayed him in infamous I was like "seriously?" But the fact that they became best friends again in the end is the best. Seriously, I mean I would love for them to have explored it a little more but what we got was still pretty good. Next best relationship is delsin and reggie.
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>>323517059
Again, the original anon wasn't asking if he should play inFamous 1 before playing 2, he's asking if he should play the game as either good or bad, then just loading a save prior to the ending to get both endings, or if he should do separate playthroughs for both alignments.
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Fucking hell i'm still so mad.
>6 hour story
>Little to no difference between the powers
>Boring BBEG
>No Variety in enemies
>Chad protagonist
>Retarded/Underdeveloped characters
>Horrific failure at the difference between good and evil
>Augestene being considered the most powerful conduit alive, when that Autistic sperg Eugene exists
>No mention of Cole,The beast or the first sons

The worst thing for me was the lack of any explanation behind the re-occurrence of a conduit population after the cannon ending of 2. Aside from that news reporters guy's "There are many theories, but nobody knows for sure" in the (barely)DLC, its never explained at all.

On the plus though it looked pretty
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>>323508873
>Beast Cole will never be canon
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>>323512297
Aren't the evil ones supposed to be canon? Hence the name infamous?
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>>323517728
The good endings are canon.
The name is inFamous, implying both.
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>>323514283
Sounds like you just want some edgy shit. Beast was perfect as it was, an unstoppable force of nature.
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>>323517728
The direction of Second Son was determined by SP looking at which ending more people did first.
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>>323518047
Huh well I read that suckerpunch actually wanted players to choose the evil ending/ path in the first game but the players went with good.
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>>323517705
>Eugene has Green lantern powers on steroids
>Just so happened to be Gamurrrrr
LOL LETS MAKE IT SO THAT HE ONLY CREATES NPCS AND WEAPONS FROM A (not wow) VIDEO GAME!
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>>323518180
Oh okay. Have you read anything on a new infamous game yet? I keep looking but I found nothing.
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Smoke
Neon
Video
Concrete (Aka too lazy to make a developed power set)

Which was best /v/?
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>>323518463
Good neon evil video
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>>323516836

Misread OP's question... i thought he was asking if he knew what the beast was doing not who he was...
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>>323518463
Concrete desu
I like going full retard and smashing into trucks and drug dealers.
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>>323518463
Video - The Implications are insane like >>323518248 stated.

>>323518096
Oh please, John was a shitty excuse for a villain. A redeemable villain with guilt and remorse would be fine - if we weren't expecting the opposite for two years.

Don't defend bad choices.
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>>323518786
don't blame your headcanon on the game
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>>323518463
Combat wise smoke was the best. Just spam smoke bombs everywhere for instant take downs.
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>>323519023
>First game sets up the Big Bad to be an unstoppable monster with no remorse who merciless kills.
>Lol no Actually I'm really bummed out about the plague and I'm only doing this to save everyone. What's that? RFI? Never heard of it.

Please tell me you're being ironic right now.
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>>323519191
The only thing the first game implied was that it was unstoppable. For the love of god please stop smearing your edgy headcanon joker wannabe around.
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>>323517705
There are very small mentions of Cole. Zeke made a cameo in a limited edition bonus mission. He made small references and if you went with good karma sometimes you can hear someone say, "you're the second coming of Cole".

Also there's a coffee shop named "McGrath's".
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