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Will Overwatch be a success, thick rate-aside?

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Will Overwatch be a success, thick rate-aside?
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Heroes when?
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>>323489017
bet its going to be popular and later raise tickrate so they can get csgo audience.
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>Get's deleted like 4 times
>Censoring it

It's like you're Nintendo OP, don't take that shit be free with your expression!
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Hope so, seems fun. Not everything has to be competitive
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>>323489017
>>323489358
>game's not even out
>tons of lewd already

why does Blizzard make such great female characters
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>>323489358
If you can't play a game competitively or doubting ii's nature it's not a good sign.
If you gain wallhacks and autoaim it's hard to take you seriously.
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>>323489690
didn't they just copy a character from an anime and alter her a bit ?
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>>323489690
Well, Mei is basically just InuitInua
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Wait, is it confirmed that it will actually have 20-tick servers?
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>>323489213
LOW TEST BETA
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>>323490124

You know why it's called high test retard? It's fat girls you'd never fuck normally, but would fuck when you're on roids because you're horny all the time
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>>323489856
>InuitInua
Why the fuck am i attracted to her jesus christ
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>>323490674
She's pretty in a boy-ish way (Excellent eyebrows), plus she comes across as being fairly nice (Though she comes across as being a bit smug at times(. I don't really have a crush on her like I know a few people here do, but I think she could make a good friend.
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>>323489213
LOWTEST
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Who's making the best Overwatch smut at the moment?
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>>323489213
>Low test
You don't belong here.
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>>323489017
MOAR LEIK THICK RATE AMIRITE LMAO
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Watching this thread for interest.
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Played the entirety of beta and the only time I noticed bullshit was Pudge hooks around corners while playing Lucio with speed boost active.

I didn't notice anything else that I thought was due to low tic rate besides that though. Game is bretty good.
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>>323489017
/v/ would take the high test meme and legit turn it into a fetish for fatties ahahah
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>>323492518
The tickrate is about equivalent to 50 ms latency. So unless you can actively notice 0.05 second disparities, it's almost meaningless. YOu'll still have the odd Widowmaker killtrade, but it'l be quite the rarity, especially with tank heroes, shields, armor, etc.
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I can't wait for the beta to come back
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>>323489017
20TICKS
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Food serving hero when?
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>>323492980
>The tickrate is about equivalent to 50 ms latency
that's not even close to what such a low tickrate means. do you even know what a tickrate is?
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>>323489017
by going paid mode and with microtransaction too I guess is going to be a ok game, nothing great but not unpopular, like hots
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>>323489017
>evolve
>titanfall

Oh boy where have i seen these kind of game before
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>>323495256
That image is misleading, count 20 of those dudes and ask, is that one second of movement?
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>>323491815
Who's that?
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>>323495280
Blizzdrones just like up to get buttfucked nowadays dont they.
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>>323495413
Don't both those games have little creep ai to farm?
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I don't think it's going to be successful if by success you mean it's going to be more popular than TF2.
I think it's going to be an ok game with a small player base and Blizzard isn't going to lose money from it.
The game looks pretty fun. Definitely not competitive gaming material, but then again neither is TF2.
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>>323495457
yes it is
what is the problem?
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>>323495481
My mother.
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>>323495793
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>>323495725
Lying to prove a point?
Yes, I see, that's never a problem.
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>>323495707
titan fall does. by the way its fun as fuck.
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>>323489017

Someone explain why a 20 tick rate is bad.
I don't understand.
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what the fuck is a tick rate?
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That looks like a magic wand and I love me some magic wand action
but I'm not a fan of whales
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>>323495930
what is so unbelievable of a character jumping and landing within a second while running?
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>blizzdrones don't know what trick rates are

Can't say I'm surprised.
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>>323489943
Nope, people are just freaking out because the beta servers are 20-tick
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>>323491815
Sauce.
NAME.
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>>323492980
>So unless you can actively notice 0.05 second disparities

You can't? You played a PS1 game on the PS3 with smoothing on, then turned it off? You should easily be able to feel the increase in responsiveness.
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>>323495856
Kuramochi Yuka
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>>323496090
how many times per second the server is upating information

so if the tick rate is low, like 20hz, and you're playing at 60fps, the game isn't even showing you accurate information 2/3 of the time.

if you find yourself shooting air or dying behind cover, that might have something to do with it
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>be really into asses
>characters have great curves and butts
>first person perspective only
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>>323496232
That should have about 20 people in that action of jumping and falling. Cut out the rest as they're unnecessary. As stated previously the time delay between each tick is 0.05 seconds, or in latency terms, 50 ms.
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>>323496090
It's basically how fast the server recieves information. So if you shoot at a guy who's shooting at you, the lower the tick rate the higher the chance you both kill each other

>>323496087
>Because CS:GO has more :^)
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>>323496317
>Gravure Idol
Why is this allowed?
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>>323496296
That is the build of a 12 year old boy
Fuck out of here with that lowtest shit.
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>>323496296
>he thinks you have to choose between the two
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>>323496450
Lucky for you emotes are in 3rd person.
https://youtu.be/h272S7QGpFQ
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>>323489017
BLESS YOU OP

BLESS YOU
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>>323496535
Fuck off, #fatlivesmatter.
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>>323496306
https://twitter.com/yukakuramoti?lang=en
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>>323489690
Very few devs make pretty females any more. Despite what people may say, its not and never really has, been all that wide spread.

Except in fighting games.
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>>323496485
Thing is there are perhaps 2 or 3 guns that do enough damage using hitscan rather than being a projectile that could even take advantage of that. ANd even of those, you'd have to be a squishy enough character to die to it, without having extra armor, shields, or be flying through the map with one of the crazy movement abilities.
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>>323496485
>Because CS:GO has more :^)

No really.
I don't understand.
Is 20 actually bad or is this an over-reaction
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>>323496535

What's wrong with 12 year old boys
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>>323489017
It will be successful just because its a blizzard game, but it will be a shitty FPS, and a awful competitive game. Just like how Heroes is a shitty MOBA
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>>323496782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EwaW2iz4iA

yeah it is terrible for this kind of game
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>>323496483
nobody said that image shows only one second
the point is that when the tickrate is that low you get "gaps" where you simply cannot hit someone
even if you had a 50 ms latency, with a higher tickrate you could still hit someone in those gaps which should never exist and only appear on low tickrate servers
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>>323496782
Both. It's bad and it's massively blown out of proportion.
They should bump up the tickrate. I don't see why it's so low.
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>>323496898
Those gaps should be far smaller than what's shown.
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>>323489017
Sauce? Can't find it.
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>>323496782
It's good when it's high but it's a massive overreaction anyway
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>>323489017
>uhh why dont you go for a REAL woman??? you know? one with CURVES?

seriously fuck off with your fat worship bullshit. i dont understand how literally every facet of media for the last 50 years tells you that skinny is beautiful and yet you want to fuck fatties.
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>>323496867

So is this only bad with people with shit connections and high ping?
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>>323495256
See >>323496782
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>>323497030
>i ONLY do what the media tells me
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>>323497030
>acknowledging that the idea of skinny being beautiful is the result of media with the intention of selling product yet still going along with it anyway
top sheep
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>>323489017
What's happening to her in that picture? Why is she making that face?
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>>323496782
i have never head about tick rate until people started shit posting about overwatch
i'm sure it isn't a huge problem
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>>323497059
goddamitfuckeduptheorderimagokillmyself
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>>323496535
CONFIMED FATTY/BETA LMAO
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>>323496090
>>323496087

Online games send information at a a speed. This is the tickrate, measured in ticks per second.

typical tickrates for shooter games are usually something like 64. If it's a twitch realistic shooter with a lot of who shoots first wins, they usually go for 128.

20 is a joke, it's the speed of things that shouldn't even be action based, and because they are letting bullets of players kill each other if they hit at the "same time" it's going to be a casual mess.

basicly, people are going to die behind cover, you having good hard to hit movement is going to matter less(because your position is only updated 1/3 to 1/6th to other players as often as other games) and because of blizzards casual retard pandering, players are gonna be dropping dead at the same time in tons of firefights
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>>323497030
Fuck off, false flag. The only thing media is saying is that skinny is ugly and fat is beautiful. They are wrong and the fat fetishists are a tiny minority.
They have been trying to force fat fetishes onto us for at least 25 years.
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>>323497296
This dick is not feminine enough
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>>323497296
>futa
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>>323497238
>twitch realistic shooter
Yeah, so that's not this game, few heroes can kill or be killed that quickly.
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>>323497296
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>>323497136
nah fatty i like thin women because all the attractive women i've ever known and seen were thin.
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>>323497356
i have never read a book or seen a movie where the protagonist was fat without it being a comedy about being fat
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>>323496535

Just accept you're a chubbychaser you deviant.
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>>323496782
kinda, but depends on a game and mechanics of it. For a game with a lot of hitscan weapons higher tickrate is more important, because otherwise it can lead to tradekills and general "behind of the corner" kills. The biggest argument of csgo faggots is that there are no other lag compensation methods than tickrate, which is false. CSGO also has bad lag compensation to begin with, which lies in the constraints of the source engine itself.
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how to get into the beta?
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Mercy best Widowmaker worst
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>>323497514
>liking 3dpd
you don't belong here
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>>323489017
Yes. Now can I have source...for research purposes?
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>>323497863
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>>323497238
>If it's a twitch realistic shooter with a lot of who shoots first wins, they usually go for 128
UT2004 was 20 tickrate and default q3 tickrate is 30. Hell even Quake Live is like 100. Only custom CSGO servers go to 128 tickrate to compensate for bad netcode.
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>>323497296
>cut
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>>323497940
only digging that hole deeper my reddit friend
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>>323497816
You gotta suck my dick.
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>>323497706
Terry was pretty good imo
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>>323497816
It's not up yet, otherwise just open you b.net account settings and make sure the checkbox for overwatch beta is clicked.
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>>323496410
so if i'm playing r6 on a boss pc and always dying behind cover and not seeing whats actually happening, is it because my fps is too high? would lowering my settings get me closer to the 'tick rate' and give me more accurate information?
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>>323497863
how was i supposed to stay a wizard forever
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>>323497428
You know how I know you're a fag?

Because if that SFM had been a faceless dude who's only purpose was to be the cock and balls in the shot you'd have liked that.

Fucking homos.
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>>323497356
This as fuck
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>game needs waifus to sell

And that's how I know it'll be trash. Appealing to your audience with sex fanservice is the biggest red flag that your game will suck.
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>>323496485
>>323498249
people in r6 ALWAYS kill each other, like 2-3 times a game it happens
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>>323498423
But the game is lots of fun.
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>>323498423
Nah
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>>323498174
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>>323498457
Doesn't everyone die in a few shots in the game?
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who's the lewdest Overwatch
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>>323498516

>cinematic experience: Platinum Edition

Thank you for proving my point.
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>>323498423
That's some false equivalence there. Appealing to your boner is easy, and doesn't mean they took anything away from any other aspect.

You're actually pro-censorship when you talk like that. Or are you some kind of stealth SJW?
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>>323498423
>game happens to have female chars in it
>means it's waifu bait
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>>323496974
me neither
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>>323497940
Lurk the fuck more.
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>>323498048

>games from 1999 and 2004 had similar/better tickrate

also
>ut
>quake
>games where who shoots first wins
no
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>>323497238
Yea I died behind cover all the time in the alpha. Peek and launch a rocket at a Widowmaker, dive back into cover where clearly the only thing in front of my camera is a wall, boom dead.
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post tracer
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>>323498423
Game doesn't even have much 3rd person mode to stare at those asses, unless you really like Reinhardt's.
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>>32349853
every gun is kinda like the m4 in csgo with less recoil, 3 shots to body, one to head kind of thing, but usually puts people down for revive. but yeah stupid how often people kill each other. also kill cams are completely different to wehat the person who dies is seeing every single time
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>>323498685
>>323498718

>Appealing to your boner is easy, and doesn't mean they took anything away from any other aspect.
The time they spent modeling the jiggle physics and ass physics could've instead been put into a decent singleplayer, or a higher tickrate, or maybe the ability to use a non-crappy UI. But this is Blizzard, the same company that runs every franchise it owns into the ground, so I'm not surprised at this rather unimaginative game.
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>>323497816
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>>323498576
>Tits so big they get in the way of her arms

jesus christ my dick
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>>323496973
Indeed, that's why want a tickrate higher than 20.
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>>323498740
>>323498147
Nah fuck off, 3dpd whining faggots should really deactivate themselves.
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>>323498867
>The time they spent modeling the jiggle physics and ass physics could've instead been put into a decent singleplayer,
Holy shit, you're stupid. The people modeling tits are not the same people who program netcode. They were going to hire an artist either way, dumbass.
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Imagine a world in which people would just stop being Blizzdrones and refuse to play their shitty copy-pasted games, a man can dream right?
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>>323498963
Lurk the fuck more
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>>323498812
>post worst girl on the fucking planet with way too much porn
literally u right now
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>>323498664
>crazy action beatemups are cinetmatic
Sure anon, maybe you should play them before spouting nonsense
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>>323498983

>Holy shit, you're stupid. The people modeling tits are not the same people who program netcode.
Where did their money come from though? It all comes from the same company, and they have a set budget for the game. maybe if they used simpler models that didn't require millions of hours to get LE HIGHER POLYGON COUNT XD, then perhaps that money could've been spent on improving gameplay, which is sorely lacking.
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>>323497182
>I've never actually played a competitive shooter, but let me spout my opinions anyway.

Go back to whatever shit card game of MMO you were playing blizzdrone.
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So why are other game devs so afraid of Overwatch they have to shit up /v/?
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>>323498984
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP ENJOYING THIIIIIIINGS!
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Can we all agree. You go too skinny and you get a bag of bones like Miss Spooky Scary, you go too thick and you get hamplanets. There is a pretty wide gap between the two and it's ok if you like everything between there.
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>>323499208
Si us this a confirmation you're working for Blizzard?
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>>323499039
Lurk where? /s/, one of the longest running boards on here?
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>>323499208
For the same reason Dotards attack other MOBAs at every opportunity
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>>323499171
>modelers and animators are writers, scripters, coders, and voice actors
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>>323499171
They were going to pay an artist to model the characters no matter how you restructure their team in your mind. Do you know how easy it is to add jiggle physics? No of course not, you're a fuckin idiot who thinks it's interchangeable with an entire single player campaign.
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>>323499308
Lurk the fuck more
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>>323489017
>thick rate
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Le fat acceptance movement
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>>323497296
Always gotta love the internet for making porn so fast of things.
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>>323499090

>crazy action beatemups are cinetmatic

But we're talking about Bayonetta, not an actual video game.

Pic related.
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>>323499190
keep spouting memes i'm sure it will make what you're saying sound true
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>>323499424
Epin
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>>323499649
>ironic shitposting

Kill yourself
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>>323499396
>>323499415

>They were going to pay an artist to model the characters no matter how you restructure their team in your mind
That's the problem then. They should've never hired an artist. Give the game a more simplistic look, stop focusing on graphics. Make them boxes shooting at eachother, and I guarantee you that it would be better than this fanservice garbage they keep trying to push. At the very least I'd know the gameplay was getting more focus.
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>>323499713

>edgy shitposting

>>>/reddit/
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>>323499781
>games should look like shit
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>>323499808
You're not going to fit in by shouting "reddit"
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>>323489017
I want to believe.

I'm already on board, don't leave me hanging /v/ros. This sub is all I've got.

I felt dirty typing that. I'm sorry. Just get Overwatch, ok?
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>>323499847

I'll take that over them playing like shit. Gameplay is kind of more important than graphics, you know?
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>>323499995
Good thing Overwatch has good gameplay, then
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>>323499781
A triple-A game is going to have good graphics. It's expected. Regardless of if it includes "fanservice" or not.
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So are we getting the sauce to that Mei pic?
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>>323499995
Ok, I'll have fun while playing something that looks great while you play minecraft.
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>>323499878
>muh sekrit club
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>>323499627
So you're going to completely disregard the actual gameplay?
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>>323500213
Lurk more
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>>323499627
>games with long cutscenes can't possible be good
A meme to surpass Metal Gear.
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You know I hate to be that guy but this game's gonna attract the entire shiteating LoL/Dota/TF2/HS/Twitch/Reddit/Tumblr crowd, there's no fucking way I can get hyped for that
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>>323500280
>$2 per tickrate
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>>323500074

>A triple-A game is going to have good graphics.
And that's why they usually all have bad gameplay. They focus on pretty graphics and watering down the gameplay so you can admire their predetermined set pieces.

>>323500052
>>323500209
>>323500238

Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice. That goes for Bayonetta and Overwatch. A good game does not allow fanservice anywhere near it, and can hold up on gameplay alone.

>>323500345

>Metal Gear

ANOTHER example of a movie. Thank you for again proving my point.
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>>323500354
How, those people have no money.
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>>323497296
What was the source of this again?
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>>323500409
>usually
Why are you evaluating it on "usually?" The beta is out. Stop judging it on statistics and judge it for what it is.
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i will fuck InuitInua
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>>323489017
>tfw too slow to get flustered over the tick rate
This is the best game for old men, girl gamers, and anyone who isn't a twitchy CS:GO player.

It's hardcore casual.

It's going to be stupid popular and you genuinely hardcore fags won't be able to enjoy it.
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>>323500409
You're making assumptions about things you've never played
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>>323500409
>Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice.
That Roadhog is so hot, you must want his big sweaty belly to be rubbed all over you.
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Looks fun

>tickrate
>game without you tryhard faggots
Looks even more fun.

>not F2P
>no BRs and poorfags
Looks like i found an amazing game to have fun in.
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>>323500409
>Good gameplay doesn't exist when the game's primary focus is just fanservice.

Good gameplay is the highest form of fanservice
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>>323500475
They will make an exception and buy a game because it's from Blizzard.
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>UT 04 had 20 Tick
>Played fine
>Most modern Esport Games have 15-20 Tick
>Play fine
>This one game is 20 tick
>/v/ throws a shit fit

I can't wait for them to announce it is gonna be 60 tick instead. The shitposting will be so real. Remember all the threads about it being P2P with P2W? Then they busted that meme? I cannot wait.

Also reminder: The difference between 20 Tick and 60 Tick is .0004 Seconds. Very much needed for competitive lmao
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Isn't 20 tick rate essentially like playing at 20fps? Where's the source on this info anyway?
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>>323500354

>gonna attract the entire shiteating LoL/Dota/TF2/HS crowd

Good luck. Not sure about Twitch/Reddit/Tumblr though.
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>>323498274
Yes, because you're projecting yourself as the guy with the dick in porn. That's why when people watch a futa fuck a girl, they feel uncomfortable because they're projecting themselves as a hermaphrodite.
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When the fuck are they going to reopen the beta?
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>>323500409
>Metal Gear
>bad gameplay
Shit, I should have read the thread. I always take this weak ass bait.

>>323500475
No, that's /v/irgins. Those are the people who drop $600 on virtual hats, skins, etc. Meanwhile the people here won't drop more than 350 of their free government autismbux on VR.
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>>323497182
Fuck off shillposter.
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>>323500657
>trying to be good is bad
>telling people that they're trying to be good is an insult
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20 tick rate is dis shit RS?
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>>323500541

>Stop judging it on statistics and judge it for what it is.
Gladly. This is what I've analyzed so far.

>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes, especially for a 2016 release. It makes launch date Splatoon look like Unreal Tournament after years of mods
>20 ticks means that most shots will usuall be sporadic and you'll never get proper accuracy if you even have the slightest bit of lag
>UI is ugly and uncustomizable, with poor draw distance and depth perception
>40 dollar game with no singleplayer, and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games (b-but they said they wouldn't THIS time even though every single current game of theirs has them! it'll be different this time!)
>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup

Need I continue?
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>>323500740
None of the games you listed are by Blizzard. Why would they make an exception?
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>>323500657

A game without tryhards, it's something we'll never get.
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>>323500912
Not fucking soon enough

The other day I was jonesing for OW so badly that I actually played TF2 to get my fix
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>>323500657
This. This entire post.

I can't wait to be away from the tryhards and BRs of the world and actually having fun for once.

The beta was excellent, can't wait for the game to release.
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>>323499627
>Point and click bullshit that play themselves are the real games
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It will be trash and it will die fast like Heroes of the storm.
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>>323496782
it's actually that bad, here's some numbers to compare

gears of war and call of duty have 30 tick rate
halo and pub cs:go have 60 tickrate
quake live and private cs:go servers have 125

as you can see there is pretty much a 1:1 correlation between casual babby shit and tickrate, therefore overwatch is mathematically worse than cod
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>>323500657
>game without you tryhard faggots
The downside is it doesn't seem very pubfriendly. It's built like a tourneygame. No 24/7 anything maps.
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>>323500952
>>323500658
>>323500651
>>323500629
>>323501129

see>>323500998

None of this would plague the game if blizzard was more competent and allocated their funds responsibly, instead of jiggle physics and overpriced VAs everywhere.

>hey, who cares about the terrible matchmaking system? Gotta give Tara Strong and Nolan North their several billion dollar paychecks!
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>>323500776
there is literally no excuse for having bad tickrate.

Insurgency, a great shooter you can get for 2 bucks, has tickrate of 128.
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>>323500979
The concept of trying your hardest and improving to an exceptional level isn't whats bad, i don't mind getting raped to death by a truly good player. Its the Tryhard mentality, the faggot who HAS to be top rank in every match or else he throws a fit, attacks others and makes excuses. Guess tryhard might not be the right word for it but its faggots who also complain that things aren't absolutely fair down to the smallest element. Those who complain about something like a tick rate are probably those faggots looking to expand their ego. I probably won't notice it much and it will probably be a small inconvenience.
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>>323501387
Blizzard wants to save money because they know overwatch is gonna flop.
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>>323501387
It's an artistic choice anon
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>>323501439

>Its the Tryhard mentality, the faggot who HAS to be top rank in every match or else he throws a fit, attacks others and makes excuses.
But anon, those are the people who pay for their games. If you want casual gameplay with people who aren't tryhard, your game should be F2P.
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>>323501285
What the Fuck did the VAs have anything to do with this conversation, or making the actual fucking game faggot?
Also doesn't address the people laughing at you for whining about shit you don't play and enjoying autoplaying clicker bullshit.
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>ults are too powerful

But I thought you Dota players liked having big, game-changing ults?
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>>323501572
>implying Dota 2 isn't chock full of tryhard faggots who will ignore every single one of their mistakes and blame everything on their teammates
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>>323501572
You're forgetting a variable. This is a blizzard game. There are going to be lots of terrible blizzdrones to fill the gap where the F2P element would increase the normie population.
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>>323499627
You are a fucking retard.
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>>323500998
>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
Yeah, the ultimates are really the only important part of the characters. There are no characters in other games featuring ultimates that are not entirely dependent on them, or even don't have them at all.
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
Their role is then to run around doing damage. This is a game where you kill each other, it is their role to do so in whatever fashion their characters does the do.
>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes, especially for a 2016 release. It makes launch date Splatoon look like Unreal Tournament after years of mods
I agree.
>20 ticks means that most shots will usuall be sporadic and you'll never get proper accuracy if you even have the slightest bit of lag
>UI is ugly and uncustomizable, with poor draw distance and depth perception
>40 dollar game with no singleplayer, and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games (b-but they said they wouldn't THIS time even though every single current game of theirs has them! it'll be different this time!)
Do you have any idea what you're talking about here?
>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup
Star Wars Battlefront (2004) and Star Wars Battlefront II pulled this off well enough.
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>>323501195
>tfw when even Splatoon has a 60tickrate.

Even the babbygames have better than 20 tickrate these days.

This is WORSE THAN SPLATOON.
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>fps with unlimited ammo
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>>323501628
The point is allocation of resources

Instead of pay the voice actors $100k or whatever ungodly sum they get, they could pay them $90k and use that extra $10k to beef the game's servers up to 60 tickrate
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>Overwatch thread where fags discuss thie shitty game and not just dump porn
Should be bannable to make threads like this
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>>323501852
>rapper with unlimited rhymes
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>>323501727

>implying Dota 2 isn't chock full of tryhard faggots
Nah, DOTA is full of casuals. LOL is the tryhard moba.
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>>323500998
>ultimates either are broken or completely useless, throws off the balance of the game
Oh? Name some. Don't give me hearsay. What ultimates are broken from someone who did more than glance over them?

>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer
Oh no, options! Variety is the enemy of replayability!

>>there's not enough maps or gameplay modes
Granted. We'll see if they support this or at the very least, encourage modding.

>UI is ugly and uncustomizable
Opinions. Why do you want to customize it? It isn't WOW.

>40 dollar game with no singleplayer
Dividing attentions to singleplayer in a game like this is always bad. They always take money out of the Multiplayer aspect, and 90% of people won't touch it anyways.

>and guaranteed microtransactions ala the blizzard special for every single one of their games
Characters are free and always will be. If you contest this, show me when they said something to this effect and lied in the past. If they sell cosmetics, I don't give a shit.

>no customizable loadouts means that he characters only have 1 useful weapon and a junk weapon that's not even good as a backup
Not out the gate, but it remains to be seen. TF2 didn't have customizable loadouts at launch either, you know. The ability to change characters at will is a suitable replacement though. Since there's way more classes than in a game like TF2.
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>>323501989
>dota
>casual
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>>323489017
link to original
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>>323501285
>instead of jiggle physics and overpriced VAs everywhere.

Uhh, voice actors are payed at set union rates. Do you not know what equity is?

Also I'm pretty sure Strong and North are not in Overwatch and the VAs that are arent "big" names
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>>323501852
Ammo's pretty much a non issue for most fps anyways. I can't really remember the last fps I played that didn't make it an absolute breeze to get more ammunition. The only hard numbers one should worry about in an online FPS is DPS and Health.
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>>323502045
Well, it is a MOBA. Casual by definition.
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>>323502148
Holding choke points as demoman or soldier in TF2?
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>>323501794

>This is a game where you kill each other, it is their role to do so in whatever fashion their characters does the do.
And yet they barely have variation. Half of them are glorified "run around and shoot stuff fast" players, while others are generic "sit still and be a turret" players. The lack of variation doesn't justify a completely new character for each one.

>Star Wars Battlefront (2004) and Star Wars Battlefront II pulled this off well enough.
Yeah, because they were made by a competent company who couldn't rely on boobs and jiggle physics. You can't add a breastplate to a stormtrooper or a CIS droid. Gameplay and execution was all they had. Blizzard doesn't need that if they put in waifus.
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>>323502179
Dota isn't a MOBA though. You're thinking of league of legends.
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>>323502031
>Why do you want to customize it?
I agree with most of your points, but you should always be allowed to customize UI, it's the shit you have to stare at all the time
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No idea but I know i had fun playing it when I got into the weekend stress test.
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>>323502206
Snag your ammo off the dead or just zip somewhere for an ammo box. If you have to hold a choke point alone for so long that you can't even do those things, you have a shit team and you're dead in the water anyway.
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>>323502304
Dota players are seriously sad at arguing
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>>323502321
That's fair. I've just never cared enough to do it myself.
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>>323499781
I know you're baiting but I'd be willing to bet someone on /v/ would actually agree with this.
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>>323489017

lets get a rundown of popular overwatch anti shill memes

>20 tick
quake 3 was 20tick
>costs money
csgo and tf2 did
>microtransactions
skins, btw tf2 literally lets you buy your way into guns. irrelevant whether theyre better or not
>waifushit
? based SFM models
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>>323501907
idk man the concept of having a very good fps with very good fanservice and very good fan generated porn is attractive. it just seems people are setting the "overwatch will be a good game guys, enjoy" in this thread
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>>323502304
>Dota isn't a MOBA though
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whats with all the kiddies and facebook normies out in full force tonight?
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>>323502243
>Gameplay and execution was all they had.

But the gameplay and execution in Battlefront is atrocious
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>>323502418
>costs money is a negative
I want brussians to leave
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>>323502404
And you're a fag that browses /v/ all day and prolly likes nintendo.

Kill yourself nigger
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>>323502418
BUT ITS MADE BY BLIZZARD! THE 4CHAN GUIDE I READ ON REDDIT SAYS IM SUPPOSED TO HATE BLIZZARD
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>>323502562
>paying for 20 tick shooters
>giving money to blizzard

You're a horrible person.
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>>323502562
They have to, since it costs money.
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>>323502418
HI CONTRARIAN WEEBSHITPOSTER
>quake 3
1999 you nigger, this is 2016
>costs money
if there's f2p/cash shop shit in it, it better be f2p, not a hybrid of both, you cant have your cake and eat it. i dont mind if it costs money at all; i actually like that idea (like tf2/etc, gets rid of the underage/third world)
>microtransactions
see above, it should not be a double dip, which Blizzard does, fuck you drone for defending this garbage, and tf2 is shit by now, m8, its been dead since 2012
>waifushit
cant defend it except fags like you abuse waifuposting and give us a bad name

tl;dr fuck off
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>>323502031

>Oh? Name some.
Hanzo's Dragonstrike for one, which has a very misleading hitbox, so you can be one shot from around the corner by something you didn't even see. How about McCree, who basically gets auto-aim? Pharah's barrage also has a broken hitbox, meaning you can't gauge how close you are to the attacks. I could easily name more if you want.

>Oh no, options! Variety is the enemy of replayability!
If they actually played any different and weren't just glorified reskins of eachother, this wouldn't be a problem.

>Opinions. Why do you want to customize it? It isn't WOW.
Because I'm gonna be looking at it the whole game. If I don't like it, can't I at least get rid of it? This is a basic option for an FPS.

>Dividing attentions to singleplayer in a game like this is always bad.
Then maybe they shouldn't make the multiplayer if they can't multitask properly. We have enough multiplayer games without singleplayer, and singleplayer games are sorely neglected.

>If you contest this, show me when they said something to this effect and lied in the past.
Starcraft 2. They claim that it'll only be 3 installments. Come Legacy of the void, they chop it into 2 pieces and sell the nova missions seperately.

>TF2 didn't have customizable loadouts at launch either,
Yes, and launch TF2 was a complete garbage trainwreck. your point?
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http://strawpoll.me/6506922
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>>323502689
The game itself is irrelevant
>wanting the f2p crowd in anything
Brussians pls go
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>>323502418
>>20 tick
>quake 3 was 20tick
>Posting lies on the internet

Id servers for Q3 at retail launch (1999) were all 60tick.
Some low-tick servers existed for those on dialup back then (which was still really prevalent)

60tick is standard, 120tick is what comps use, the higher the tickrate the better. (but obviously the more bandwidth you'll use)
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>>323502418
Yeah, I pay 40 dollars for this shit game and i have to pay more money if I see a hero skin i like.

No thanks.
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>>323502732
Hello there mad BR.
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>futa SFM Overwatch porn

My life finally has meaning.
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>>323502823
>i have to pay more money if I see a hero skin i like
Sad desu.
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>>323502068

>Uhh, voice actors are payed at set union rates
Then hire cheaper ones who aren't part of the union, or don't have VAs at all. Who said video games needed expensive, unnecessary voice actors?
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I really don't see any problem with this game.

My biggest concern is the 20 tick, which seems really bad in theory, but what I did play of the game it was very smooth and worked out in practice.
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>>323502816
You act like there's something wrong with being russian when shitposters come in all races.

Like you :^)
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>>323502823
Would you prefer no skins at all?
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>>323502921
But I'm australian m8
You can't outshitpost me
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>>323502942
Yes, but this is blizzard. They want to make even more money after the initial 40 dollars.

They're probably gonna release map packs too.
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>>323502916
I don't know why companies don't just hire bozos.

Use the NEETs you're selling to to make your game.
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>>323502732
>1999 you nigger, this is 2016

CS1.6 had a higher tickrate in the same year, dumbass.
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>>323502732
alright i see you started playing videogames last year let me tell you why youre wrong on everything

>1999 you nigger, this is 2016
irrelevant, ticks have nothing to do with how competitive a shooter is, interpolation and lag compensation is what make the game competitive

>if there's f2p/cash shop shit in it, it better be f2p, not a hybrid of both, you cant have your cake and eat it. i dont mind if it costs money at all; i actually like that idea (like tf2/etc, gets rid of the underage/third world)
dota 2 would prove you otherwise but my point was the payment model is the best of both worlds. the shop consists mainly of cosmetics but you avoided that because it wouldnt fit your narrative

>cant defend it except fags like you abuse waifuposting and give us a bad name

negative press is still press, if you werent 16 youd understand this marketing concept that rules the world.

>>323502817
nice source

>>323502823
publishers should give me everything for free
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>>323503045
All future maps will be free

The only thing they're charging for is heroes, maybe sprays I could see too, but anything that actually has an impact on gameplay will be free
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How do we convince Inuitinua to cosplay as her and do a sexy dance and strip tease?
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>>323496649
>https://twitter.com/yukakuramoti?lang=en
Anon, you are a gentleman and a scholar. The ass is fat. And it is good.
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>>323503045
New maps and heroes are free, if you like try to press that issue again and see what happens.
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>>323499781
>Making a videogame
>Hey guys lets not hire any artists, lets purposely make it look like shit.

You went full retard anon.
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anyone care to explain what tick rate is
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>>323503131
FALSE
FLAG
OPERATION

YOU ARE CLEARLY MOSSAD
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>>323497238
What are the rates for Cod and UT? Does it depend on the platform?
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>>323503086

>hire bozo
>sounds hilarious as he's ranting about the illuminati
>give him a sandwich and some whisky and he'll be happy
>game ends up having a comedic, realistic charm

>hire Tara Strong
>generic twilight bubbles voice
>500,000,000 dollars sent to her agent
>game is forgotten in a week as "that game that had Tara Strong in it.... again
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>>323503269
read the thread nigger
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>>323503197
She is done being interesting.
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>>323503045
>>323489017
Maps and characters are free dumbshit.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/12/08/overwatch-wisely-decides-to-keep-all-future-heroes-and-maps-free/
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>>323503269
Nobody knows.

Just shitpost.
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>>323503269
its a gimmicky world every professional player completely ignores because it has no technical backing other than "muh snake oil" "muh personal bias"

unless you can tell the difference between 0.05s which im sure you can :)
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>>323502830
Hello there projecting retard, Im from USA
>>323503109
???
ARE YOU DEFENDING 20 TICK? YES OR NO. NO DEFLECTION.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. THANK YOU.

>>323503131
Hello projecting weebshitter again! I'm 28 years old and my first FPS was Quake 2. Refresh and what coordinates clocksync is what matters to most precision FPS players. Does the client handle it? Does the server handle it? Etc.

F2P/microtransactions are cancer. ARE YOU NEW? ARE YOU BEING THIS CONTRARIAN AND DEFENDING THIS GARBAGE? Yes, yes you are.

Yes Marketing rules the world, but the game is so unappealing I can't see it swinging children over to its way.

Enjoy your dead game.
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>>323503197
I want to cum on those brows.
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>>323503259

>Hey guys lets not hire any artists, lets purposely make it look like shit.
If the gameplay is good, the graphics can be as bad as they want. Tell me why this shouldn't be so.
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>>323499995
>Implying good gameplay and good art is mutually exclusive. You literally can't hire any artists or the gameplay will be shit.

Anon......you might be retarted.
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>>323503184
>>323503045
Dumbshits
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/12/08/overwatch-wisely-decides-to-keep-all-future-heroes-and-maps-free/
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>>323502795
>so you can be one shot from around the corner by something you didn't even see.

It's kinda stupid to complain about an ult "shooting you from around a corner" when it literally goes through walls.

>How about McCree, who basically gets auto-aim?

Soldier 76 is more actual auto aim. McCree is more of a paint a target for a one shot kill.In practice using High Noon is really risk reward as it takes a few moments to lock on to targets. Most people can't manage more then one or two or end up getting gun downed.

>Pharah's barrage also has a broken hitbox, meaning you can't gauge how close you are to the attacks.

I never really had this issue. It's a large area of effect yeah, its supposed to be, but I don't really see how hard it is to gauge said area.
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>>323489017
Can't people who run their own servers just open up the developer console and set sv_tickrate to 120 or something?
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>>323502808
>important poll please vote
http://strawpoll.me/6506922
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>>323503383
>>unless you can tell the difference between 0.05s which im sure you can :)
I CAN TELL WHEN I HIT SOMEONE AND I GET A HITMARKER FROM MY CLIENT SIDE SOFTWARE
AND I SEE AN EXPLOSION
BUT THE VEHICLE/PERSON DOESNT GET HURT

AKA "DUSTING"

LOOK IT UP FAGGOT, THATS HOW YOU NOTICE "0.05 SECONDS"
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>>323503482
I think Blizz said they won't be allowing dedicated servers, they'll be hosting. Though I'm not sure that's set in stone or anything.
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>>323500998
>half the characters have no proper role and are just variations of the same damage dealer


But that's straight up false.

I mean, look at Bastion Trorbjorn and Symetra. All of them have some type of turret attack or ability or item, but they each play significantly differently.
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>>323503482
>people who run their own servers
>2016 blizzard game
lol
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Every thing blizzard touches goes to shit.

I don't know why you dumb fags on /v/ think it will be good.
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>>323503482
This is a good question, has Blizzard said anything on dedicated servers run by the userbase or an SDK?
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>Valve sells cosmetics that almost cost as much as Overwatch does


Oh wait, Valve and Dota are beyond criticism
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>>323503612
drippingwetdeercunt
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>>323503438

>Implying good gameplay and good art is mutually exclusive. You literally can't hire any artists or the gameplay will be shit.
You're implying that companies have infinite money, or that they'll spend the money wisely. Hint: when 90% of the budget goes towards realism or tits or hiring Cree Summer to voice your sassy black character, the 10% left of the budget isn't gonna magically make a stellar game.
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>>323502795
>so you can be one shot from around the corner by something you didn't even see
Those dragons are fucking huge. Don't give me that "But I didn't see it!" bullshit. If you mean that because he can shoot it through walls, that's the entire point.
>I could easily name more if you want.
Do it. I'm tired of your arrogant "need I go on" bullshit. Back it up or shut up.

>If they actually played any different and weren't just glorified reskins of eachother, this wouldn't be a problem.
I've read the abilities. None of them struck me as "glorified reskins."

>This is a basic option for an FPS.
Not really. Some games have a "slim" or "no hud" option, but complete customizablity isn't as common as you're asserting. Still seems like a nitpick, but you were trying to pad your list anyways.

>Then maybe they shouldn't make the multiplayer if they can't multitask properly.
>HURF DURF if I can't have it all, I want nothing!
You know this is what you sound like, right?

>Starcraft 2.
Touche. But you're going to have to convince me the Nova missions were ever intended for Legacy of the Void.

>Yes, and launch TF2 was a complete garbage trainwreck.
You are so full of shit, I'm not sure how you contain it in your husk of a body. If Vanilla TF2 was so bad, why do people always nostalgia for it?
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>>323503131
Are you seriously implying that the only way to disprove your absolute shitposting is to somehow have a source of a q3 server vonfig from 1999?

No, actually, you can do the legwork yourself.

google cl_cmdrate.

You are disproven, with far more sources than you've ever posted- if you think I'm wrong, feel free to post a source to prove it.
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>>323503685
dota doesn't cost 40 dollars.
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>>323501919
thats not DOOM
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>>323503685
>35 dollar hair.jpg
I mean, you also get new icons and sound effects. It's a pretty shit deal, but it's something.

It's also fucking hideous. She's so qt, why do this?
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>>323503685
>cosmetic item
>item that can drop in game for free
>cosmetic item that doesn't actually affect the game

Wheres the problem here?
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>>323503685
>BUT BUT VALVE
You're as buttmad as fucking Nintendo children and their victim complex with Sony.

Valve is shit now, news at 11. Even from a longtime Valve fan and former TF2 player, everything I saw with Valve has burned. TF2 went to shit, appealing to every faggy community out there, and Valve not releasing HL3/anything decent in years besides MOBASHIT.
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>>323503612
Stockholm syndrome. Blizzard has been shit since the buyout.
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>>323503461

>It's kinda stupid to complain about an ult "shooting you from around a corner" when it literally goes through walls.
Oh good. I never encountered it in tight spaces, so that just makes it even worse. You can be instant killed by something you can't even see through a wall that should be solid. You don't see a problem there?

>its supposed to be, but I don't really see how hard it is to gauge said area.
How about the fact that the explosions aren't accurate to the damage radius, and the missiles are so small that you can't gauge them accurately.
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>>323503685
>you'll never cherrypick this hard
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>>323503869
>Blizzard sells cosmetic items
>EVIL MICROTRANSACTIONS ARE UNACCEPTABLE, IT IS THE CURRENT YEAR

>Valve does it
>but it's cosmetic~
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>Refresh and what coordinates clocksync is what matters to most precision FPS players.

every technically competent person would disagree with you. the PRIMARY thing about the quality of life of a comp game is lag, interpolation and compensation

>F2P/microtransactions are cancer. ARE YOU NEW? ARE YOU BEING THIS CONTRARIAN AND DEFENDING THIS GARBAGE? Yes, yes you are.

could you be any more reddity jesus christ this is embarrassing. like youre trying so fucking hard to fit in its embarrassing.
like i dont get your point either because youre foaming at the mouth, the game isnt even f2p like whats your autistic point

>Yes Marketing rules the world, but the game is so unappealing I can't see it swinging children over to its way. Enjoy your dead game.

nice youre not biased or anything

>>323503562
that has absolutely nothing to do with tick rates, but you've never done basic cisco CCNA networking or any type of networking to understand that

>>323503763
like is it because "tick" sounds like an easy term or something so every uneducated idiot likes to lap it up as a hail mary solution to everything
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>>323503595

>All of them have some type of turret attack or ability or item, but they each play significantly differently.
It's all a variation of "shoot enemy until they die". The turrets have as much variety as your average COD weapon.
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Overwatch girl power ranking, prove me wrong


DVA>widowmaker>tracer>everyone else>literal garbage>anything futashit
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>>323504023
>"shoot enemy until they die"
So every shooter ever? Do you have a point to make or have you gone beyond full retard?
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>>323503978
Not every anon who replies to you is the same.
I personally have no problem with Blizzard or Valve selling cosmetic items, as long as that's all they are, cosmetic.
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>>323503919
Valve is only barely shit. Not being complete kikes like everybody else puts them above the entire industry pretty much.

Dota 2 is pretty much the only game worth playing right now. Overwatch won't change that, since all the tryhards are playing CS:GO and the casuals have CoD and TF2. Or whatever other F2P shooter is out there.
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>>323504075
DVA=widowmaker=tracer>everyone else>literal garbage>anything futashit
Acceptable?
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>>323503930
Experience dictates you should know there is an ability that can shoot through walls, as well as the likely places where they will use it. Every team is not going to have a Hanzo. If you are caught unaware, you probably had it coming.
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>overwatch is shit so let's talk about waifus for 6 months
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>>323503591
Wait. So if you get banned from 1 server (e.g. for that icky mean Racism, eww! ) you get banned from them all?
Guess I won't be playing this game then.
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>>323502916
>Then hire cheaper ones who aren't part of the union

Because 99.99% of the time a big budget game like this is union work and you can't use non union workers for a union job. The point I'm making hiring Nolan North or some no name equals the same pay. As far as I know the pay for a voice actor only goes up by number of characters they do. This is why you see one voice actor do a bunch of roles in the same project. It's cheaper to hire one guy to do three voices rather than hire three guys.

I personally think voice acting in video games is a matter of personal preference, but I think it adds a layer of quality and personality to give characters voice. People would be much less hyped on this game if they didnt love the characters, which they clearly do.

>>323503307
Clearly you have a solid grasp on the entertainment industry.

What is with your hate boner over Tara Strong? She's not even in this game. The last game I remember her being in was Guild Wars 2. She mostly does animation.
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>>323489017
Hey if you could give sauce to the original that'd be great.
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>People think that tick rate is an end all be all value that can be changed to suddenly make the game more responsive
>People think that high tick rate is indicative of lag
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>>323504012
>>that has absolutely nothing to do with tick rates, but you've never done basic cisco CCNA networking or any type of networking to understand that
Networking is partially unrelated to the subject at hand.

Do we need to discuss QoS too if you want to throw random baby cert words around?

A game is shit if it's shit because it's gimped by a certain thing. In this case, the refresh is 20 tick and all hitscan apparently is handled by server over the client.

Fuck off weebfaggot. Shitposting is an art; you're just throwing poo at a piece of paper trying to garner replies.

Here's your last one.

>>323504191
No anon, they are complete kikes. And fuck off with your MOBA cancer.
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>>323503924
Hey there, as someone who isn't following this too closely, I'm seeing this.
>Our hit validation is entirely server side and our tick rate is very high,
Does this suggest that the client has a tick rate of 20 for hitmarkers but the servers have a higher one for actual hits? That's just what I'm seeing as an optimist.
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Looks like your average f2p TF2 ripoff except paid

Why is this so much talked about
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>>323504305
>WOW YOU MEAN I CANT BE AN ASSHOLE ONLINE TO OTHER PEOPLE?!?!?! WTF???

Grow up.
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>>323503756

>If you mean that because he can shoot it through walls, that's the entire point.
Then what's the point of having a wall there in the first place if you can one shot people a mile away through cover?

>Do it. I'm tired of your arrogant "need I go on" bullshit. Back it up or shut up.
Soldier 76 and his tactical visor. That's pretty much all I need to say regarding this game having any semblance of skill or balance.

>I've read the abilities. None of them struck me as "glorified reskins."
Then you're not reading close enough.

>some games have a "slim" or "no hud" option, but complete customizablity isn't as common as you're asserting
And you see that as a reason to remove it entirely? Why?

>You know this is what you sound like, right?
You mean I sound like a customer entitled to a good product? Fits the bill.

>Touche. But you're going to have to convince me the Nova missions were ever intended for Legacy of the Void.
They had the missions ready for purchase on day 1. So I'm pretty sure this wasn't a later addition.

>If Vanilla TF2 was so bad, why do people always nostalgia for it?
Because nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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>>323503978
The difference is that you have to pay for one game while the other one is free you dipshit. When they already charge for the game they shouldn't need microtransactions as well.
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THREAD END SYNOPSIS:

- Overwatch will be shit with 20 tick rate, hopefully either Blizz will increase tickrate on all or some servers or will allow us to run our own private servers.
- Waifus
- Blizzdones still exist and will defend every decision blizz ever makes.
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>>323504346
>he doesn't play FPSes
>he doesn't know that BATTLEFIELD 4 changed from 30Hz default tick rate to 30<->60Hz (values in step of 10Hz too)
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>>323503930
>Oh good. I never encountered it in tight spaces, so that just makes it even worse. You can be instant killed by something you can't even see through a wall that should be solid. You don't see a problem there?

Oh my, its almost as if this ultimate ability you have to power up over time is strong in certain cases. SHOCK AND SURPRISE!
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>>323504429
>Why is this so much talked about
20 pounds of tick ratetties and ass
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>>323504305
I'm fairly sure that's not how it works, but you're also a retard if you're saying shit dumb enough to get banned.
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>>323504429
I paid money for TF2, so I don't have any problem paying money for this "TF2 ripoff".
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>>323504435
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>>323504482
>The difference is that you have to pay for one game while the other one is free you dipshit.

So what? They're cosmetics that have no effect on the actual gameplay, either they are acceptable or they aren't

Decide now
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>>323504265

>Experience dictates you should know there is an ability that can shoot through walls,
So I'm supposed to be omnipotent and magically know where everyone on the field is at any given time? There isn't even a map system, so this is unacceptable and too much to ask. It's artificial difficulty.
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>>323489358
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>>323504538
Like I said, your average f2p TF2 ripoff

>>323504549
k
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>>323504023
And all games are "press buttons and thing happen" That means Civilzation and Overwatch are the same thing too.

Besides, Bastion the only really, "shoot until they die." The others are more support/area of denial. You litterally have no idea what you are talking about.
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I guess it'll be fun all the way until they decide to make it F2P like Valve did with TF2. That really killed the game for me, even if there were some servers that tried to keep the F2P crowd out.
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>>323503307
>The any man off the fucking street argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pD83hmKjr0
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>>323504636
>either they are acceptable or they aren't
What a retarded argument. They're acceptable if they are the only thing that costs something for the player, they're not if he is required to pay to play in the first place.
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>>323496410
>if you find yourself shooting air or dying behind cover, that might have something to do with it
played the beta test weekend extensively and this never happened
the people here complaining about this haven't even played the beta at all, it's so painfully obvious because if you actually did then you would never feel like the tick rate was a problem
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>>323504486
May I add to your synopsis that the current poll results suggest that more faggots intend to purchase it than not?
http://strawpoll.me/6506922/
http://strawpoll.me/6506922/r
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>>323504773
In both cases they are completely optional cosmetics, why does it matter if the base game costs money?
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>>323504786
It's more an issue of latency anyways. 20 ticks per second by definition/math amounts to 0.05 seconds. In latency terms that's 50ms, how many people do you play that are generally above that threshold?
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>>323504330
>Because 99.99% of the time a big budget game like this is union work and you can't use non union workers for a union job
Then don't have voice actors. 99% of the time they don't add to the gameplay.

>What is with your hate boner over Tara Strong?
I dislike games with overrated voice actors who suck the funds from game development just so people can think they're playing as Twilight Sparkle.
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>>323504532

>Oh my, its almost as if this ultimate ability you have to power up over time is strong in certain cases.
Except it has no counter, can't be detected, can't be blocked, has no drawbacks, and is objectively better than any other ultimate in the game.

Some "balance".
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>>323499190
>card game

hearthstone doesn't even qualify to be a card game LMAO
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>>323505023
Well at the least now we know you're butthurt over BioWare spending hundreds of millions on SWTOR's terrible voice acting.
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>>323504746

What's wrong with that video? They don't affect the gameplay sweetheart, and I'll bet you that the gameplay had much more of a budget to work with.
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>>323505134
>only I get to decide what a game is and isnt!!!

Okay bud, sure.
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>>323505127
Wait is this noob complaining about Hanzo's ultimate? The big, slow ultimate that's telegraphed by angry Japanese yelling?

This guy probably just played Bastion and couldn't get out of the way in time
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>>323505023
>Not adding to the gameplay
>1/2 of this game's fucking meta is learning to listen for ult/ability lines
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>>323504075
futa zarya > Mercy > everything else
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>>323504463
>en what's the point of having a wall there in the first place if you can one shot people a mile away through cover?
One ability. One ability can shoot through walls and now you're pretending they all can. It's not even hitscan or very fast, you can dodge it if you see it and it's fuckhuge. Drop the theatrics.

>Soldier 76 and his tactical visor.
His rifle is garbage, so autoaim isn't that good.

>Then you're not reading close enough.
Name them. Name the characters that are reskins. If you can do better than "this character is geared for defense, but so is this one! SAME ROLE."

>And you see that as a reason to remove it entirely?
Acting as if it was in the game to begin with. Alright, so you want one minor feature it doesn't have. Still a nitpick.

>You mean I sound like a customer entitled to a good product?
Overly entitled is more like it. If you don't buy games without single player campaigns, good for you. If it was $60 I might agree.

>They had the missions ready for purchase on day 1.
The Nova missions did feel kind of scummy. I'll concede that.
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>>323504482

Fist of all, TF2 was not free to begin with. It only really became free when its popularity was at a all time high and Valve wanted to get more people onto Steam. They had been selling items long before that.

>When they already charge for the game they shouldn't need microtransactions as well.

Sure, if its a single player game. But if you want a online multiplayer game to still be supported three/five/ten years down the line additional funds are needed. Initial sales only get a game so far.
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post more thick vidya girls talking about blizzard games is for niggers

real talk
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>>323504920
Because it's greedy as hell.
You should have access to all content the game has at the point it releases once you pay for it. In a F2P you don't pay for anything initially, but the devs still need to make money back somehow, so charging for optional cosmetics is a relatively fair way of doing it.
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>>323505347
>single player game
>microtransactions
I don't play a lot of videogames. This doesn't happen, right?
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>>323505127
Which one are you talking about, because D.Va and Mei can probably counter most ultimates in the game. The rest are kind of shit in comparison.
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>>323505198

Or maybe I didn't like that SWTOR was a trainwreck, had no proper level scaling, recycled planetary assets, terrible character selection, unoriginal grind lairs where the same generic enemies popped out, raid bosses who only had single digit AI, or the laggy and poor selection of servers.

But yeah, the poor voice acting didn't help.
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>>323505127
>can't be detected

The giant red two headed dragon that roars, is announced by a screaming japanese man and moves at half the speed of smell cant be dectected?
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>>323505456
>OP ultimates level
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO starts playing
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It's a blizzard game.

On that fact alone, the game is going to sell atleast 3-4 million copies. And honestly from trying the beta, it's a better game than team fortress 2 could of ever hoped to be.
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>>323505017
yeah i think latency is the bigger issue here. even if you have a perfect connection, if someone you're playing against is sitting at 200ms, a 120 tick rate isn't gonna mean shit because they'll just be teleporting all over the place anyway.

just watch, once the game comes out, nobody will complain about this anymore. it's a complete overreaction that uses math to argue against it rather than actual gameplay. if it feels good to play then that's all that matters in the end, and in my experience playing it, the tick rate didn't fucking matter at all. the only problems i ever experienced were with widowmakers/hanzos getting headshots when they were hitting my torso or feet. is that a tick rate issue or a hitbox issue? probably the latter because in every other scenario it wasn't an issue at all.
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>>323505438
Its has in the past. Point is you don't need to keep supporting singleplayer games since its all on your side. Multiplayer games need steady income to keep running.
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>>323491815
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>>323505438
Oblivion is probably the most (in)famous example
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>>323505404
>You should have access to all content the game has at the point it releases once you pay for it.

And you do with Overwatch, in fact they've already announced that all future content will be free
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>>323505017
you mean 5ms right

>>323505614
no dude youre supposed to hate it and the only straw you have to grasp on is the magical hail Mary word "tick"
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>>323505334

>One ability.
How is that balanced though? You still can't see it, and in any given game there'll be a hundred different sound effects and voice actors clamoring over eachother. And through a wall you cant hear Hanzo's tell.

>His rifle is garbage, so autoaim isn't that good.
Then doesn't that mean the game is poorly balanced, when he's a completely useless character except for his ult?

>Name them. Name the characters that are reskins
Tracer and Pharah for starters. They're the generic "perky girl who goes fast". One can fly, the other just jumps high. Basically no difference.

>Acting as if it was in the game to begin with.
IT'S BEEN IN EVERY FPS SINCE THE GENRE'S INCEPTION. So yes, it was in the game to begin with when they decided to make an FPS.. Blizzard purposely decided to remove it.

>Overly entitled is more like it.
Laterally no such thing.When my money is involved, I think I can be as critical as the situation demands.
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>>323504435
Being an asshole, and being assholed to in return, is incredibly fun and amusing.
Far more fun than being banned, at least.
I like a game full of shit-talk, drama, trolling, offensiveness, and the emotional rollercoaster of laughter and rage.
I accept that this view is uncommon, so I need to spend some time finding a server that shares my preferences.
But, if the game doesn't allow users to run their own servers, then you're going by the company's preferences. The company ALWAYS caters to the majority, who can't handle the feelz rollercoaster that comes with open discussion of damn near anything. As a result, the stuff I like gets banned.
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>>323505334
>>323505846
Have either of you two played the game?
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Someone help me into sfm

I need to THICK
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>>323505673
>Oblivion
>microtransactions
DLC is not the same...
Fucking horse armor, though disgusting, was still just DLC.
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>>323504920
Yes both are optional but you would have to be an idiot to not see why one would prefer one over the other.

Its why a lot of people hate the way Day 1 dlc is handled. You just bought the game, and now the dev wants you to cough up a little more. You don't need it but it sure does make you feel like you bought the game a bit incomplete.

>>323505780
>
And you do with Overwatch, in fact they've already announced that all future content will be free
Maps and heroes will be free, not skins unless they made some new announcement about that.
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>>323505846
>And through a wall you cant hear Hanzo's tell.

Yes you can, you can hear that shit anywhere

I was in the beta, Hanzo's ultimate is telegraphed from a mile away

If you want an OP ultimate, try Zarya's

The projectile for it looks similar to her alt-fire, and she doesn't use her verbal tell until it's like halfway through the air, when it's almost too late to react
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>>323505834
Unless they're using some broken form of metric, no 50 ms, milli being in the thousandths.
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>>323505846
>Tracer and Pharah
Teleportation and flight. To use an easy TF2 comparison, they are Scout and Soldier based on their weapons. Not reskins dude.
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>>323506000
>Maps and heroes will be free

Right, so all of the content will be free
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>>323506073

>Teleportation and flight.
Pretty much the same thing. You're just going from one place to another slightly faster.

>To use an easy TF2 comparison, they are Scout and Soldier based on their weapons
Which you can customize. So the difference becomes vast.
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>>323504360
>Dota 2 is completely free
>Valve are complete kikes
What?
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>>323506149
Blizzard is full of shit, so hold your breath.
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>>323505023
I feel like you are just being belligerent about Strong because you are mad at ponies or something.

Again, what voice acting adds to a game is a matter of execution and opinion. There's been tons a great games with bad VA and bad games with good VA.

I've never known a game to tank because they went over budget on the voice acting and they had to sacrifice money from other places. By the time recordings for VA are being done, quite a bit of the base stuff is done. You don't start out paying Tara Strong ten bajillion dollars and THEN start designing the character she voices. Thats not how it works.
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>>323506179
Are you fucking with me? Scout and Soldier are not different only due to their customization options. They are different at the core.
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what the holy fuck is a "tick rate"?
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>Blizzdrones resorting to porn to coverup shit game mechanics and programing
>14 year old neo-/v/ kids fall for it

Then again they are pretty much one and the same.
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>>323506358
try reading the thread, it's answered many times
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>>323506358
Blizz shill please leave.
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>>323506358
it's a petty buzzword, don't even worry about it
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>>323506458
i don't have time just tell me
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>>323505847
Nobody in the history of DOTA has ever been banned for being a dick. People only get banned when they go full retard and start raging like some 13 year old white kid from the ghetto.
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>>323506358
Something less important than latency.
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I want Mei to sit on my face while Widowmaker steps on my dick.
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>>323506534
tick rate means you're a retarded fucking ngiger
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>>323506353

Not really. Scout and solly have only minor differences. Just a little more HP and a little more speed. Without the weapons, they're not that different.
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>>323506179
>Pretty much the same thing

>instant'y going from spawn to somewhere else on the map and the ability to move on a z axis for a limited time is the same thing
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>>323506545
you can't even be banned in dota
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>>323506613

>Scout and soldier are the same if you take away all the things which make them different

Uh, no shit
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>>323506672
It's called a MEEM, mom.
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>>323506149
Some people would consider costumes content as well. Non-essential content, but content all the same. Props to them making future heroes and maps free though.

>>323505846
You can fucking here Hanzo's ult go off a mile away, even all the way back at spawn. Dragon moves so slowly anyway that if you see it coming you can easily get out of the way. Most powerful ults can be heard globally it seems. The number of times I heard a Pharah yell "JUSTICE REIGNS Su-UGGGGGGGGGGGGGH" is countless since everyone can hear her and quickly shoot her down.
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>>323506613
>Just a little more HP and a little more speed.
So you are arguing a tank is the same as a glass cannon? That's as fundamentally different as a class can be in these kinds of games. You're none too bright, son.
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>>323489017
Game has his approval, and that's all that matters.
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>>323503815

>DOOM
>the guy who has a line "his name rhymes with Mike Hawk" that he then rhymes with Frylock
>the lyric is literally stating what rhymes with Frylock
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>>323506358
Basically a "tick" is how many times a second the game sever observes where everything is on the map in the game. 20 tick I think means 20 times a second. Higher tick rates mean things are closer to real time, while lower tick rates run into issues where you shot at someone during a tick, they ran behind cover at a different tick and the server tries to compensate the difference that seems weird from the players perspective, i.e. she shot me after I ran behind a wall, whaaaaaa"
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>>323506858

>You can fucking here Hanzo's ult go off a mile away,
And how do you know where it's coming from if it can travel through the entire map and across walls and into spawn, and doesn't change volume no matter where you are?
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>>323506947
He does have some criticisms, which I agree with. Namely, this game desperately needs some more game modes besides payload and control points.
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>>323502148
Ammo or silence anon
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>>323507191
silence is the clear choice here
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>>323507109
The dragon roars when it's closer to you

The only way you can get hit by Hanzo's ult is if you're not paying attention, if you're already CCed by someone like Zarya or Mei, or if you're Bastion and you can't get out of the way in time
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>>323507191

>3100 dollars for a virtual gun

And they say CS:go isn't pay2win.
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I played the beta and it was okay, my only gripe were the maps and OP characters
You can basically have a team full of bastion and be unstoppable, just every one spam into the spawn area and they can't do anything. Widowmaker kills every one in one shot with fucking bodyshots. Reinhardt has an infinite shield that you can't do anything about, if you actually manage to get it down he just gets it again in 3 seconds. Mercy can rez her entire fucking team, etc etc etc. As for the maps, there's not much diversity going on with them. Most of them only have one path to the objective, no side paths or anything like with TF2. So people can just spam the fuck out of traps on that one entrance, wall it with Mei so they can't even get in, or spam everything you have at it.
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>>323506947
do you really need people to give you an opinion?
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>>323507109
I would think his shout uses digital surround so you can listen for the direction
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>>323507315
>You can basically have a team full of bastion and be unstoppable

Unless someone picks Junkrat, or Hanzo, or Symmetra, or Tracer, or Reaper, or Genji, or Pharah, or Winston, or Mei
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>>323492746
>/v/ lets the fatties win

shouldnt have expected anything else desu
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>>323507314
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>>323507281

>is if you're not paying attention
Also, you can magically see through walls right?
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>>323507314
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>>323507418
The projectile itself roars as it travels

Hanzo's shout is just the sign that he shot it, and lets you know that you should be careful
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Expecting Blizzard to make a good game is like expecting Japan to apologize for murdering all those Chinese back in WWII.
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>>323507463
>The dragon roars when it's closer to you

You're really grasping at straws.
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>>323507109
Unless your humping a wall or in some small room trapped, you can usually find the source before it hits you. Just hearing it go off should make you play more careful until you can spot it.

In fact, unless comboed into, I see Hanzo's ult used more as an Area-of-denial ability than a "kill everyone" button since it moves so slow and hangs in an area
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>>323507436
>Spread the bastions out, always have a bastion behind another so they can protect each other
>Nothing you can do
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>>323496450
>play Torbjorn
>have your eye level at the ass level of the rest of the characters
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>>323507315
>Mercy can rez her entire fucking team, etc etc etc.

After playing and following this game from the start, THIS is actually what is dictating the wins at high level play. Keeping a mercy on the back line with a full ult, bait out a a few enemy ults and then rez everyone. It may be a little early to say this game has a meta, but this will probably be it until changes are made.
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>mfw you can re-skin tf2 and probably create a custom gamemode that pretty much copies Overwatch

I can literally join a FF2 server that already uses some of these boss skins.
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>>323507556
Close enough, so unless that dude is deaf, should be fine.
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>>323507556
Pretty much ever hero makes a loud distinctive sound when they use an ult. Hell, they do it for almost every ability.
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>>323507582
>>323507680

Unless you have surround sound, you will not know where the roar is coming from, so it kills you regardless.

>b-but it's slow
It's faster than 90% of the character roster. What are you going on about?
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>>323507736
They want to nerf that iirc, acknowledged it's too op, but guess we'll see how they manage it.
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>>323507746

Demoman into junkrat would be damn easy.
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>>323507836
>>323507782

>50 heroes activating their ults at random intervals
>"Wow dude, how could you not hear one guy very closely among a group of 40 other characters talking?!

Terrible game design to be friggy frank.
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>>323507854
>Unless you have surround sound, you will not know where the roar is coming from, so it kills you regardless.

I'm literally deaf in one ear and I could dodge those ults without a fucking problem.

You're possibly just literally braindead.
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>>323507746
The basic weapons, probably. The ultimates and abilities would be tricky.
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>>323507985
I think you might be using some hyperbole to support a flawed criticis, to be perefect-o hon.
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>>323508026

If it's coming through a wall, no you can't. If you say you can see through a wall, then I have to assume that you're using cheats, or the game has a horrible level design which means you can just see through walls.

That's not good game design.
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>>323499627
>>323500409
>>323501285
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>>323507985
what the fuck are you talking about? ultimate noises/dialogue are incredibly apparent on purpose, and the other noises are just gunfire and death groans. there's barely any talking during combat.
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Did anyone post the source for OPs image? I cant find it
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>>323508183
>IM BAD AT THE GAME, SO ITS BAD GAME DESIGN!!!!

lmao dude
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>>323507985
There's only 12 per game you retard, and apparently you really are fucking deaf, do you want a pity party?
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>>323508149
>criticis
>perefect
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Zarya is pretty cute
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The need for a certain tickrate is connected to how good the netcode of the game is. Source is so shit you definitely need it to be high as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waXyc_1AQuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNg6TZiuXf4
If this is how you get good at sniping in a valve game then count me the fuck out.
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>>323508305
Looks like my moms muscleless ass
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>>323507746
You can re-skin Dota 2 and create a custom gamemode that copies HotS too.

Blizzard are so fucking retarded, nothing they do is unique.
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>>323508183
Spin your character around, when you hear the sound the loudest, that is the direction it's coming from, sidestep like 6 feet away.
I suppose it's possible you're actually mentally retarded enough to not be able to process that information, can't really see any other explanation for your shit skill.
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>>323508183
Yes, Hanzo's ult is harder to avoid in close spaces and it can go through cover. Its meant to break chockpoints and footholds, thats the point. In open spaces and at distances its the easiest thing in the world to avoid. I don't see why you think this is bad design.
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>>323502418
>quake 3 was 20 tick
yes, and cavemen beat the fuck out of shit with clubs. Guess that means clubs are good enough for modern military forces.
>csgo and tf2 did
Yes, but tf2 and csgo are free/cheap now and are its main competition. Also, Hitler hired people to kill his political enemies, so I guess it's okay for obongo to do the same, huh?
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>>323507736
does she rez everybody no matter where they are on the map or only in a certain area?
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>>323508586
>literally bringing up Hitler
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What the fuck even is a "tick rate"
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>>323508495

>Knowing what type of ass your mom have

It's probably normal. I just despise my mother, so i barely even look at her, kek.
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>>323508698
Are you triggered? Back to tumblr, fagboy.
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>>323508705

basically it's how many things the game records as happening per second
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>>323508660
I THINK its a very large area around her, but I didn't really play her enough to be sure. It's a very strong ult regardless.
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>>323508531
isn't blizzard known for borrowing the best parts about other peoples games and combining it into one thing?
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Valve exists. Blizzard is literally irrelevant now.
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>>323489251
Anyone that plays csgo cannot leave csgo
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>>323508698
He's a /pol/ kiddie. That's all they ever talk about. That and
>DA NIGGERS!
>DA JEWS!!
>DA ES JAY DUBBA YOUS!!!!!
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>>323507736
>>323507914
Yea Mercy's ult is too strong. Maybe something like reviving at half health or being able to damage the person in their revive animation so you have to actively protect that person.

>>323508183
Damn man you are like the only one I've seen complain about his ult being strong. I'm waiting for the "Im just pretending to be retarded" line. I've been in small ass rooms and had the dragon clip through and still be able to avoid it 9/10 times. The vocal cue of him firing it off should warn you its coming, so unless you under heavy fire and trapped, you shouldn't hide out in an area with almost no maneuverability.
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>>323508863
Yes and that's what they have said in regards to Overwatch countless times.
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>>323508807
Well in that case 20 tick rate doesn't seem like it's actually going to be a problem in most cases

It's not like it's Quake or UT tier in terms of speed
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>>323508562
>>323508557
>>323508326
>>323508316
>>323508271

This actually goes back to my original point.

>have omnipotent magic future vision, so you can magically know were the ult is coming from even though the sound doesn't give you any clues unless you have a surround sound
>step out of the way of some random wall because you totally can 100% predict where it'll pop out of the wall
>die anyway because the hitboxes are terrible

I had a whole load of other issues with Hanzo's ult, but the biggest one is that the hitboxes don't match with the design of the attack. It's like one giant funnel instead of two slim dragons.
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>>323507439
ho-to naka moholo Solo... ho ho ho
ka cheesa crispa Greedo?
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>>323508964
this is just me but i wouldn't be so upfront about something like that
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>>323508779
Bye /pol/. You're never missed. Now go "bahh" like the little sheep you are.
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>>323508953

>my circumstancial evidence means that its okay for ults to go through walls and kill people from the other side of the map
Then why do walls exist in the first place?
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>>323507439
Her face is like a skinny person trying to escape from being buried beneath the poundage of a fatass.
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>>323508950
>politics are for children
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>>323489251
>they'll raise the tickrate in a patch!
This delusion
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>>323489017
20 ticks/seconds means they are literally aiming for a console release down the line.

And we all know what that means.
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>>323509015
>It's like one giant funnel instead of two slim dragons.
i don't see a problem with this, you shouldn't be in the middle of it anyway
desu dude, if you can't escape it, it's because you're either in a tight space or you're fucking retarded. most of the maps are linear so hanzo will likely only fire it down the main line of the map. i think you're just bad, dude. don't blame the game for something nobody else has trouble with.
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>>323509015
I still think you are wrong and clearly salty over something only you have a problem with, but I swill say it would be cool if you could "dodge" the dragons by running the spiral gap between them.
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>>323509174
Bruh it was announced as console/pc
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>>323509103
>Then why do walls exist in the first place?

To block the things that arent intentionally designed to go through them, like Hanzo's ult.
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>>323509015
So you really are mentally retarded, don't you need parental supervision to be posting on the internet?
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>>323509156
>talking about patches in game thats not only not out, but the beta isnt even up anymore.

This is litterally the time when something like improving servers and netcoding would happen.
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>>323509337
then why are we even having that discussion.

It will undoubtedly be shit.

On top of that it costs 60 bucks and will be filled with microtransactions.

I seriously hope you fucks won't buy that shit, hell, even team fortress 2 is probably better.
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>>323509337
how well do blizzard games even do on console?
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>>323508863
Blizzard yes, not ActiBlizzard. HotS is best parts of dota ripped out and replaced with jew cashgrab bullshit that makes LoL blush.
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>>323509174
You can already preorder it on console you paint huffer
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>>323503197
Is she THICK?
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>>323509609
>then why are we even having that discussion.

Because you have shown you are unaware of basic information, like the fact TF2 was also on console.
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>>323509681
just goes to show how much shit I give about it.
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>>323509609
The Orange Box was also released on console.
It's just a generic shooter for those idiots, I doubt they'll get updates after a year or so.
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>>323509103
Because despite being able to go through walls Hanzo's ult has flaws to compensate for that mainly:
>Its slow
>Its highly visible everywhere except inside a closed room
>Its easily heard which should put you on edge and not fucking stand in a small ass room like an idiot
>While it does damage fast, it doesn't instant kill like DVa's ult does, so a lot of characters can move out of it in time.

You hear an ult you react to it accordingly.

If it couldn't go through walls it would be absolutely worthless anyway.
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>>323509792
Theres a difference between not giving a shit and being flat out wrong. Don't act fucking with ignorance.
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>this fucking thread

Lets just hope when they decide to finally delete /vp/ that they accidentally misclick and delete this board as well.
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>>323509871
TF2 for console hasn't gotten an update in 9 years or something. It's TF2 without all the hats and new weapons.
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>>323509792
then why the fuck are you in this thread?

>haha idc about this xD

retard
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>>323502304

>Dota isn't a MOBA though

nigga what
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>>323510119
Not all that surprised. Course I stopped playing it on PC a few years back too anyways, might reinstall just for some prop hunt and shit, always funny.
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>>323510119
>It's TF2 without all the hats and new weapons.

So its a more balanced, better game?
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>>323509960
Never said I wasn't wrong, just gave a basic explanation as to why I was.

Chill the fuck out, if anything knowing that the game was released with console in mind in the first place is even more of a red flag.

And don't give me that shit about the orange box, I still own it on xbox and guess what, tf2 was clearly ported in a rush and had literally no support whatsoever.
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>>323510101
I hope you delete yourself from existence
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I think its funny /vg/ hasn't had a thread for Overwatch in months because they're so ass blasted about the closed beta, yet theres still been a Mass Effect thread everyday for years
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>>323510357
Thanks senpai
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>>323510357
i sure hope you never reproduce if you find obese people attractive
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>>323510357
Sauce?
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>>323500909
>actually thinking you're pixels on a computer screen
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>>323510357
you just saved the thread.
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>>323510578
Do people not know how to size rings properly?
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>>323510472
There isn't a thread probably because no one can fucking play.
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>>323510357
Wew
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>>323510298
I mean if that's how you look at it then I guess so. There's only like 4 maps so it gets pretty boring quick. I used to play the fuck out of it myself a long time ago and every one playing it, myself included, always hoped one day we'd get updates. Fuck I remember even going on the sub forums for the 360 version of TF2 and 90% of the threads were just speculation about whether or not we'd get updates. It's a lot different when you spend years playing a game never getting any love and just get bored with the same shit over and over again.
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>>323496090
Its how long it takes for the server to refresh data. So basically, the stuff in the game is happening at 20 frames per second, regardless of frame rate.
A minimum tick rate should be 60, since thats the average frame rate these days. Preferably, 120 frames per second.
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>>323510629
stupidity and obesity go hand in hand
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>>323510657
>>323510357

I'm more concerned about the fact that people are not aware that they might lose their fingers with that shit.
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>>323510737
I've seen hungry skeletons with improper ring sizes too though.
>>
What is more fun though, 20 ticks or 60 ticks?

I say 20 ticks feels better, it's just has the better artistic vibe to it. 60 ticks feels way to swooshy and lashy and I think anything above 30 ticks feels kinda sloorpy. It's just the general feel of it and I think it's more fun when it's down to buttery smooth silky nice and pretty 20 trickrate and anything above seems too realistic and bloorpy and it loses that kind of cinematic intrinsic woofiness that you get with a nice 20 ticks per pixel density.
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>>323510737
not really sure where you are getting obesity from
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>>323510756
why, because she'll try to eat them?
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>>323510857
Did you even read the backlinks dumbass?
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>>323510857
from >>323510357

thats what borderline obese looks like
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Honestly, the game looks like shit. Blizzard has completely lost their touch, and it's a wonder if any of the old fans are still lingering.

My prediction is that it's fun for 1 month or so at best. After that only the usual tryhards, nolifers or hackers stick around, like with MMO's.
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>>323510876
Have to be more careful with proper bondage and such, you're causing lots of strain on blood vessels and such on limbs that have too much pressure placed on them, or simply choking people to death, I think.
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>>323503685
I don't have a problem with cosmetic DLC.

But seriously, why is it 35 dollars?

I know it can drop for free in the game, but still, 35 dollars.
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>>323509109
Eventually her fat will weigh so much it will all fall off and she'll be like a skinny person dragging a giant skin-sack of fat.
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>>323510737
Lets not forget denial.
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>>323511025
especially when holding up an entire cow by your wrists, yes
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>>323510998
>>323510995
All you can see is their hand
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>>323511085
cows dont have wrists
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>>323511107
if you can't tell that >>323510578 is the hand of a very fat person, then nothing can help you
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>>323511107
When all you have to see is a hand to tell someone is obese, then obese just doesn't cut it. It's a fucking whale.
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>>323511107
>b-buh it's just the hand
Look at this obese retard in denial
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>>323511107
Do you not see those fat ham sausages? Those are not the fingers of a skinny woman senpai.
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>>323497048
It's only for Counterstrike.
Any other game uses a less shit system.
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>>323511202
sure they do, see >>323489017 or >>323510357
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>>323510357
saved just in time

:^)
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>>323510876
that was supposed to be a reply to >>323510578
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>>323511107
If you have visibly fat hands then chances are you are some level of obese.
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>>323511023
Blizzard is the rock dad of video games. They were relevant years ago and are now balding middle aged men trying to re-capture their lime light but everybody just thinks they are enormous faggots.

I bet Metzen thought SC2's ending was like Casablanca, because he's a bigger pretentious faggot than Kojima.
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Hey guys, I used to IRC help out some devs for Q3 CPMA, and I'd like to shed some light for both anti and pro tick rate arguments.

Let me explain it as simple as possible. You can't look at this issue without understanding the core differences between server and client side responsibilities.

Server - Interpolation, Lag compensation, Latency, Server Stability, Packet Loss, Communication Latency between different Servers, Server side Tick Rate, Latency on Server Side Prediction Algorithms (projectiles and hitscan both), Live bugfixers and stabilization algorithms, Server Side Content that's handled such as procedural generation , and those are just on the top of my head.

Client Side - Client side Tick Rate, Client side FPS drops, Input Delay, Client Side Content Generation and more.

The reason why oldschool games like Quake 3 were 20 tick on live servers was because dialup couldn't support more. And the reason why people set it at absurd values on LAN was because there was no Interpolation at all, let alone lag compensation. That popular picture of 128tick vs 20tick is exactly what had to be done on Quake LAN servers to compensate for the lack of networking backbone, otherwise you'd see shit jumping around and desyncing like we used to see. Today we see that due to packet losses and server/client desync and server side bugfixer algorithms trying to maintain the status quo. Tick rate is probably the least important factor today, 16 years ago, it was the most important.

Now I'm not going to say that increasing the tick rate won't be good. But the more you increase it the more you're gonna run into packet losses and other problems. I watched some streams of the game and honestly it looked fine. Everything in networking is a game of minmaxing, what we know so far is that the CLIENT SIDE tickrate is 20, for all we know the servers could be amped up for more. There's also a lot of non hitscan weapons in the game so there's a million other factors that matter more.
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>>323510578
Couldnt the asshole have found a bigger ring? Downsizing is a thing.
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>>323511376
>I bet Metzen thought SC2's ending was like Casablanca, because he's a bigger pretentious faggot than Kojima.

No, they said multiple times they were putting game first over story.
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>>323511482
>Downsizing is a thing.

he could also have downsized in other respects
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>>323511547
Too bad the game is shit too. That deathball meta really reminds RTS players why they love RTS, for the mindnumbingly simple gameplay.
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>>323511376
>bet Metzen thought SC2's ending was like Casablanca, because he's a bigger pretentious faggot than Kojima.

I really dont think anyone at Blizzard gives a fuck anymore. They are so dead that to me even Valve seems more alive.
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>>323511441
The way I see it 20 tick is bad on paper, but Overwatch plays really well despite it. I don't know a whole lot about netcode, but I guess the lag compensation and such is really good so that the tick rate isnt really an issue.
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>>323510357
Thank god for the mods for keeping this a clean chrischan image board, those pixels could have damaged my fragile young mind.
Now I'm off to another thread so I can get called a nigger dick-skin by someone pretending to be Mokoto Nanya while plugging themselves with multiple dragon dildos.
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>>323511624
i lol'd
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>>323511781
Few weapons and heroes can be affected often by the tickrate, mostly Widowmaker and anyone with a small enough healthpool. And more importantly is latency in those situations.
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>>323512065
Is latency more of a client side issue or server side?
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>>323502795
>Hanzo's ult is broken
opinion discarded
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>>323511760
>anime boobs comfort me like a pillow
>lay my head down, let me die.
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Zenyatta needs buffs
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>>323512485
Youtubers say it's broken because it's too easy to see coming.
And youtubers are fucking terrible at the game.
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