Preferring Melee over Sm4sh is like preferring manual transmission over automatic. It's just a bunch of autists whining over losing wave-dashing and L-cancelling.
This is now a Melee thread, thanks OP.
How will win G3 and why it isn't going to be Leffen?
He said he probably won't be able go on stream
Leffen might just be even more of a buster than Mango.
As much as I hate to admit it though, he probably is the future. The 5 gods can't keep this shit up forever. People like Wizzy and Lefs are gonna be the new scene.
Less than Melee but still a good amount. The viewership at Big House was dead even at 75k. I like the character variety and new faces. I appreciate that Melee is much deeper mechanically but I got burnt out watching it this year, I still tune in for majors and to help support my local
At least he's not the only one, but the first one
>West, Plup, Shroomed, Sfat, PPU, Axe
Just wait till next year. West will be the first one to take a set of every god, then probably Plup and then Axe.
I wholeheartedly believe that.
These are shifting times.
>M2k still loves the game but states he doesn't care about being number 1 anymore
>PPMD keeps retiring
>Hungrybox has a job as an engineer
>Mango is still a buster
>Armada is the kingpin right now and will probably stick the longest besides Mangorp but still
>been playing melee for two years
>steadily improving over that time span
>Suddenly see a huge step up in playstyle
>executing things I've never done before perfectly
>Beating all of my training partners
>Go to a monthly to gauge my improvement
>go 0-2 for the first time in a year
I love melee
If people wanna play Melee to be competitive then that's on them, no skin off my nose. If people don't wanna play Sm4sh over Melee - or, god forbid, even Brawl - for fun with 3-7 other friends, then yeah, that's pretty fucked up.
>you will never live in a country where melee is popular
>you will never live in a country where any fighting game is popular
>you will never live in a country where anything besides lol is popular
i really envy you muricans and your scenes, i will never be able to compete at melee
Plup could do it. I believe in him and thats all he needs.
Also unrelated, but Wizzy's match vs M2K at MLG New Orleans finally got uploaded and its fucking great. Wizzy is truly a god and the next level for Falcon
When was the last time M2K lost to a Falcon?
West will take out M2K at some point. M2K will have a suicidal day and play like shit and West will take him.
Armada is a whole other mountain to climb. If he could even take a game off Armada it would be a pretty good milestone for him
Who cares, Melee is stale and Melee autists will never be pandered to. Smash as a series will only improve from here on out and Melee autists will still be playing Fox v Fox until they die.
Let them enjoy what they enjoy and you can enjoy Super Smash Bros.
4 is the natural evolution of Brawl. Melee and 4 don't even use the same engine while Brawl and 4 do. Features retained from Brawl (besides basic gameplay elements shared by all post-Melee games):
>10 frame input buffer
>lack of momentum retention
>lack of analog shield density
>faster shield drop animations, making them safer
>longer perfect shield window
>power shields no longer reflect projectiles (which halved their damage, but had less recovery frames than most reflecting attacks)
>simplified ECB resulting in less consistent tech windows
>aerial ECB bottom point at foot height like Brawl rather than knee height like Melee, meaning aerials can't land as deep before entering a landing state
>higher jumpsquat frames across the board
>dead input window on dashes, resulting in far less freedom to dash dance
>stale move negation affects knockback, making you "save" killer moves (unlike Melee where if you get the frame advantage to use a move, you use it, because the knockback will be the same when your opponent makes that mistake again)
>no longer have to face the ledge to grab it
>dead input window when grabbing the ledge, can no longer immediately act almost out of grabbing the ledge
>airdodging out of tumble
>no more directional airdodge (was riskier to use and also a recovery option)
Not to mention new additions in Smash 4 like:
>vectoring still present for horizontal knockback
>greatly reduced smash DI on multi-hit attacks
Anyone who doesn't care for any of that has no reason to stop playing Melee. The games and audiences are completely different, so there's no duty to "move on" to one or the other. Personally, I'd rather just play Melee until the day it dies and never play any other SSB competitively again.
>whining over losing wave-dashing and L-cancelling
Sm4sh could have those things and still be a shit game, and it could not have those things and be good anyway.
It's still a piece of shit though.
FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
PPMD girlfriend/friend is a porn star, she's supposed to be Mang0's gf's (Lauren) friend, they get together in bar or something, Lauren accuses PPMD gf of wanting to suck mango or someshit like that, then the crazy bitch proceeds to try to stab her.
Nothing happened to her but Lauren was arrested.
Mango's mom posted on twitter that he wasn't going to Genesis. Mango nation promptly shits itself
Aparrently yes, that is his mom