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http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/32543/article/more-rumors-on-nintendo-nx-appear-two-devices-with-one-os/
>So apperently Ubisoft Bucharest have recieved some NX dev kits in October 2015. And after experimenting a bit with the new hardware they started developing games for it.

>According to him, NX is a portable device and a home console. There will be two different devices, the handheld and the home console, the first one will launch in late 2016, while the home console will probably launch sometimes in 2017. They only recieved dev kits for the handheld as of now.

>they are preparing a port of Assassin's Creed Liberation, a PlayStation Vita game, for it as a launch title.

Ready for a great launch, guys?
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>>323459882
>Assassins creed liberation

KEK. There goes your third party support
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>>323459882
I'm sick of rumours, give me some SOLID FACTS about the NX.
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I would be happy if the NX would be the same console but one with weaker hardware ( portable ) and stronger hardware for stationary use.

It would be great: Nintendo could release more games for both consoles because the Game A ( lets say a Link to the past ) isnt limited for the handheld alone and players who dont like handhelds could play it at home with better resolution and higher framerate and better graphics.
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>>323459882
>they are preparing a port of Assassin's Creed Liberation, a PlayStation Vita game, for it as a launch title
dead on arrival
fucking dropped
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>release console with stupid gimmick
>it doesn't sell
>immediately give up on it after releasing some shit first party games, leave it to rot and move on to the next one

at least Microsoft is still supporting the xbone despite its resounding failure

how does it feel, nintentoddlers, to support a company that is LITERALLY worse than Microsoft?
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>Vita game
Stupidly underpowered console confirmed.
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>>323461968
>hating on gimmicks

If anything consoles need way more gimmicks to justify their existance instead of just being underpowered pcs.
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>ports

yawn

it's wiiu all over again.
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>>323461968

>implying Nintendo isnt supporting the 3ds or Wii U
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>>323462293
what they need is to be simpler. fuck firmware updates and internet browsers, etc.

I remember when consoles were actually convenient and didn't force 40 minute mandatory installs.
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WiiU 2.0 LMAO NINTENDO NEVER LEARNS
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>>323459882
>Again, bear in mind that this rumor can’t be verified. Our source posted this on 4chan, and it has since been deleted.
>Our source posted this on 4chan
Okay move along everyone, there's nothing to see here
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>>323461968
Except these systems are slated to be released 5 years after their predecessors. Which is standard for Nintendo.
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>>323462507
>implying nintendo is even going to acknowledge the Wii U exists after the NX is announced

they're barely doing that now and no one even knows what the NX is
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>source of the article is a 4chan post
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I think everyone needs to approach any Nintendo news with a pinch of salt, obviously we are going to see some crazy posts and claims leading up to the NX reveal.

Personally I'm apprehensive about anything Nintendo releases following the Wiiu. Contrary to the torch and pitchfork reaction of many anons, I didn't hate the console itself but the business decisions of Nintendo.

If the NX is a cool console I don't care, I want to see some great releases for it. I refuse to purchase it unless there's a classic Pokemon title, since Mario is rehash/dead, same with smash, same with most Nintendo franchises.
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>>323459882
>Again, bear in mind that this rumor can’t be verified. Our source posted this on 4chan, and it has since been deleted.

AYYYYYY
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>>323459882
>NX is a portable device and a home console
its a fucking phone ayyy lmao, Nintendo becoming TPD
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>>323462856
>they're barely doing that now

it's literally the only console with games
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>>323461968
Anon look how long ago the 3ds was released
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>>323459882
>Our source posted this on 4chan
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I work for Ubisoft, we are porting tons of games for this, shit going to be rad
Zombi
Far Cry Vengeance
Assassin's Creed: Altaïr's Chronicles
James Cameron's Avatar: The Game
Michael Jackson: The Experience
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Surf's Up
The Dukes of Hazzard: Return of the General Lee

NX will truly be the place to go for the bets Ubisoft games, with this unprecedented relationship with Nintendo
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>>323463434
>3DS
>Best games on the system dont even use 3D or 3D is trash
>Wii with waggle shit
>Best games only use little to no waggle

That always being said: Would the 3DS have been even better if it had just been a Super Nintendo DS?

I really hope the NX will be good.
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>>323463401

there are 3 or 4 good titles for the Wii U, and that is not enough. The other consoles can at least hide behind the promises of great games in the future while the Wii U is already at the end of its life.
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Not saying these rumors are even remotely true but actually wouldn't put it pass Ubisoft to release a years old game on a new console/handheld. Remember Rayman 2?
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>>323459882
bull shit. the new 3ds isn't even a year old. nintendo didn't even give the wii u the axe that fast and it's a massive failure. you really think they're going to drop their most successful line of business so they can roll the dice on something new?

you do realize smash is the most popular game on the wii u, and the 3DS version sold twice as many copies?
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Breaking leak, Netflix will be on the NX
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Here's hoping.
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> there will be people who defend WiiU and Nintendo's abandonment of the console.

> There will be people unironically excited for the NX
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>>323464304
>there are dumb mobileposters RIGHT NOW
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>>323463330
Might as well be a bait thread.

Might as well rename /v/, /bait/
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>>323464448
>they save reaction images on their phones
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>According to him, NX is a portable device and a home console. There will be two different devices, the handheld and the home console

What? How is this different from any other Nintendo cycle then? There's always a handheld, and always a home console. Even if they link up and have some cross compatibility, it really is nothing new. It's the same old nonsense, but with a different PR spin.
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I am reminded of early WiiU announcements, the Nintendo Direct.

Reggie went up on stage after the video reel and said something like "See? We got Batman!"

It was that moment specifically that they confirmed that they truly just don't get it. They don't realize what meaningful third party support actually is; they don't know why that, and the wiiu to that effect, was so bad.
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>>323464304
it's not that we're DEFENDING the axing, it's just that such an insignificantly small number of people were dumb enough to buy one that the vast majority of the planet doesn't care. apple could decide to drop OSX support and more people would care.
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>>323464578
>they post on 4chan from their phones
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>>323459882
>Ubisoft Bucharest
what
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>>323459882
>According to him, NX is a portable device and a home console. There will be two different devices, the handheld and the home console, the first one will launch in late 2016, while the home console will probably launch sometimes in 2017.
Surely that branding will be super fucking confusing for parents looking to buy their kids an NX.
Either that or they'll say "you already have an NX! You don't need another one!"
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>>323464939
It's almost like they will call it two different things like NX portable and NX home, you fucking idiot.
Do you think they will just call it the NX?
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>>323459882
>There will be two different devices, the handheld and the home console, the first one will launch in late 2016, while the home console will probably launch sometimes in 2017.
If this is actually true it's DOA just like the Wii U.
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>>323465252
Why?
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>>323459882
>>So apperently Ubisoft Bucharest have recieved some NX dev kits in October 2015. And after experimenting a bit with the new hardware they started developing games for it.
Fucks sake, will Ubi ever let this studio make something by themselves other than fucking ports.
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>>323464939
It'll probably be NX home and NX portable, or something that that.
Just like how the latest Smash Bros is literally Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U.
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>>323461968
>how does it feel, nintentoddlers, to support a company that is LITERALLY worse than Microsoft?
I would have never started to imagine dreaming that Nintendo would someday become worse than SEGA, then Sony and THEN MICROSOFT
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>>323464939
You're so fucking stupid you make me want to vomit of shit.
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>>323465335
Romanian branches of videogame publishers are usually noncritical infrastructure, secondary services and "ports that we don't really care about."
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>>323463850
Anon, Nintendo fanboys as devoted as the person you're responding to doesn't consider any games that aren't made by Nintendo to be games. Hence the absurd statement
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>>323461968
I know you started playing video games in 2008, with all the other faggots that killed video games, but consoles used to have 4-5 year life cycles.
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>>323465335
>when they were asked by the Ubisoft managers in France what they want to develop they said they wanted to port an Assassin's Creed game to the handheld because they have a lot of experience in porting.
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Why is it that it's always Ubisoft employees that leak stuff and why is it always here?
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>>323464250
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>>323459882
We literally knew this was going to happen for over a year, it was reported ages ago Iwata was talking to investors about the next system having multiple form factors with the same OS to make it so they could easily have the handheld and home console libraries cross over.

I've been trying to tell everyone this is what the new angle of the system would be forever and everyone's all like "lol what is the NX it is a mystery guys" anyway
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>>323465692
lmao is it 2009?
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>>323465753
>We literally knew this was going to happen for over a year, it was reported ages ago Iwata was talking to investors about the next system having multiple form factors with the same OS to make it so they could easily have the handheld and home console libraries cross over.
No, he didn't you idiot.
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>>323459882
>>323465753

If the handheld can run a Vita game, then what will the console have inside it?
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>>323465583
Welp, at least their ports are pretty damn good.
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>>323465513
Bucharest was the first non-french Ubi studio though.
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>>323465308
it just won't work. I'm neither hating, nor shitposting, but being realistic.
You can't have the best of both worlds without compromising - HARD.
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>>323465876
He sure did, idiot.

>Iwata said in a presentation to investors in March 2014 that while Nintendo wanted to port Wii games to the Nintendo 3DS, or bring Nintendo 3DS titles to the Wii U, it found that because the architectures were so different, it required “a huge amount of effort.”

>But in 2013, Iwata unified the hardware divisions into a single team, saying during that 2014 presentation that “because of vast technological advances, it became possible to achieve a fair degree of architectural integration.” This meant, he said, that porting games across platforms would be much easier, and help solve Nintendo’s current problem of “game shortages.”

>Then, he began to talk about Nintendo’s “next system.”

>“It will become important for us to accurately take advantage of what we have done with the Wii U architecture,” Iwata said. “It of course does not mean that we are going to use exactly the same architecture as Wii U, but we are going to create a system that can absorb the Wii U architecture adequately. When this happens, home consoles and handheld devices will no longer be completely different, and they will become like brothers in a family of systems.”

http://www.wired.com/2015/03/nintendo-nx-analysis/
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>>323465574
The Dreamcast was 11 years alive
The PS1 was 12 years alive.
What you meant to say is that Nintendo likes to shit out their new consoles each 3 years and kill off all support for soft-and hardware to the previous system.
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>>323466472
eat shit faggotard.
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>>323465574
Listen, faggot, it literally doesn't matter how long a console stays alive as long as it receives proper support during that time. The Wii U received support for like 2 years and was then immediately axed when nintendo started leaking rumors about the NX. They blatantly fucking killed their own console because it wasn't doing as well as they had initially hoped.

Even the PS3 received support despite being a shit console for 90% of its life. The xbone is a failure, and it too is being supported by its company. Nintendo promptly abandoned ship on the amiibo lifeboat when their first party diarrhea didn't boost sales.

I literally cannot understand how Nintenyearolds can actually defend the company after this debacle.
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>>323465897
going by Nintendo's history, not much.
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>>323459882
>they are preparing a port of Assassin's Creed Liberation, a PlayStation Vita game, for it as a launch title.
Oh god it's going to be the Vita 2.0 isn't it?
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>>323459882
>next gen console
>launch title is a port of current/last gen handheld
Wow Nintendo. That sure is going to be a great start.
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>>323466556
How does my dick feel in your ass?
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>>323466649
>Even the PS3 received support despite being a shit console for 90% of its life.
and it is STILL getting games, after being 9+ years on the market. and not just shovelware shit.
if you want a console with longevity you buy playstation. if you want a meme gimmick that will be killed off by the very own company who made it after merely 2 years you buy Nintendo.
Remember the *NEW* New Nintendo 3DS?
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>>323466649
A more apt comparison is the Vita.
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>>323466556
BTFO
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>>323466979
The PS3 sold more units than the 360 though.
Its percentage of the market justifies developing titles for it.
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>>323459882
>Again, bear in mind that this rumor can’t be verified. Our source posted this on 4chan, and it has since been deleted.
Epic.
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>>323466979
Famicom was supported in Japan until 2004.

And even then they only stopped supporting it because they were running out of parts to repair broken systems.

: ^ )
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I love my Nintendo 32nx add on to my console. It doesn't feel strangely familiar to me at all. Can't wait to pay $600 for less than 4 years if entertainment
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>>323462604

>I remember when consoles were actually convenient and didn't force 40 minute mandatory installs.

That's the consoles fault because???? Blame the developer for releasing half the game on CD or for the game being so shit, it needs 18gigs of data to be playable.
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>>323467490
Blame the consumer for buying that shit
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>>323467567
I blame both the developer and the dumb ass consumer for buying such trash in the first place.
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Rumor/Leak threads are bullshit 99 percent of the time.
The NX was totally going to be unveiled during CES
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>>323467475
>Can't wait to pay $600 for less than 4 years if entertainment

Wait, it's VR?
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>I'm so glad Nintendo is getting away from the gimmicky shit with this new console!
>o-oh its another gimmicky console?
>I'm sure they'll do it right this time guys! Handheld are so cool r-right?

It's like they literally don't care what the people want at all.
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I can see same form factor OS working here. Windows 10 just recently got that working between PC, tablet, and mobile phones in a sense where all devices now run on the same build and receive the same application updates.

My concern is that while Windows tablets and phones can be literally bought for 50$ a piece so that nearly anyone could grab one, would people be willing to pick up what could be an expensive handheld at launch and then an expensive home console a year from launch? By cross libraries, would all games work on both systems or just specific titles that can be ported?

I'd love to play a Pokemon game on my TV again.
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Nintendo. Where 3 inch screens are the only thing we care about. Fuck your tv.
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>It's a NX thread
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>>323461968
Xbone isnt a failure though, its doing par for the course though definitely not what MS was originally hoping. PS4 is dominating and Wii U is flopping about
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>>323468047
This is beautiful and I'm not even a sonybro
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>AND THEN WE'LL MAKE IT 2 SEPARATE CONSOLES AND YOU'LL HAVE TO BUY THEM BOTH TO PLAY THE FULL GAME AND ALSO ALL THE AMIIBOS TO GO WITH THE SOLD SEPARATELY GAMES, AND THEN WE'LL JUST KEEP MAKING MARIO OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND THESE IDIOTS WILL BUY IT ALL HAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHA
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>>323468180
Obviously just speculation, but the way I imagine it working is this. The home console will have higher specs like a home console would, but they'll have basically the same system architecture and OS. It will therefore be possible to play any game you purchase for the handheld on the home console. Games that want to take advantage of the full processing power of the home console may be exclusive to it, or developers might release games where the settings can be changed to be less demanding for the handheld version, like with PC gaming. Obviously you will also be able to use the handheld system as a controller for the home console.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the home console's standard controller is very much like the Wii U gamepad and is even backwards compatible with the Wii U gamepad, hence Iwata saying the system would "absorb" the Wii U architecture in >>323466472.

This would also much more easily allow for the likely scenario of Zelda Wii U coming out for both systems like Twilight Princess did with the GC and Wii. You'd be able to get a better version on NX if you upgraded but it wouldn't be required, but the game could have different graphics settings if you do get the more powerful hardware. It would function the same on both systems.
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Doesn't have F-zero, I don't give a fuck. I'll only buy a Nintendo system with a game from that line on it- anything else I couldn't give a shit about.
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>>323469021
okay
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>>323469021
No. You have to play Mario and Zelda forever. We know how much you guys like them.
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>>323468915
That would definitely be a nice scenario, but the thing is a handheld can hold back much more than just in graphics. Map size, number of AI on screen, network configurations is what comes to mind when I think of the difference between handhelds and home console.

In that case, games would have to be built for the lowest system (handheld) and just simply up the effects on the home console.

Obviously it's all speculation, but I sincerely hope console games don't get held back by handhelds. 15 years ago I would have loved playing 3D games on the go, but now that a large number of them are going handheld I'm sick of it.
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>>323469021

No one has cared about F Zero since the Bartman was the new dance craze.
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>vita ports

pfffFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>323465061
It's still confusing for retarded parents
>>323465467
Calm down m8
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>>323468047
What's the gimmick?
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>literally killing your system before it has a chance to spread its wings
>literally replacing it with mobile games galore + vita ports
>last remaining big wii u game is a zelda game which should have been there a year after launch
>making big money off toys and dolls so who cares about games lol

it's pretty sad how far nintendo truly has fallen
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>>323470581
Uhhh 2 separate consoles, one for home one for "on the go mobile" sounds pretty gimmicky bruh
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>>323470727
>making big money off toys and dolls so who cares about games lol
nintendo started out as a toy company lmao
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>>323470767
Not really. It's that what Sony was doing with PS4 & Vita?
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>>323470902
card******
speaking of, they could have been making cash off a Ninhearthstone but oh well
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>>323461384
no games
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I love the Yakuza so much
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>>323471059
Sony didn't market the vita as essential hardware. This sounds like they will be completely reliant on eachother. I can't wait to find out the new contoller has accelerometer function.
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>>323461968
>how does it feel, nintentoddlers, to support a company that is LITERALLY worse than Microsoft?
m8, they're worse than EA at this point.
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>we've been testing with handheld games


Hahaha shit is this not enough for you guys?

D O A
O
A
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>>323459882

>NX is more powerful than the PS4!
>No wait, NX is an Xbone!
>No wait, NX is a portable!
>No, wait! NX is a streaming service!
>No, wait!! NX is a handheld!
>NO WAIT! NX is a handheld AND a console!

Christ it's been 2016 for 10 days and I already want Nintendo to just get their shit out and quench the rumour mill.
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Oh boy i can't wait for terrible half assed ports that no nintendo fan is going to buy because it'll be like the 8th game in the series that will probably run worse than it's original release.

then i can't wait for all third party support to drop off again because it doesn't sell
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>>323471491
Evading a ban, huh
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>>323471592
>testing an handheld console with handheld games
WHOA...
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>>323471268
Nothing in the article implies that the two systems will be reliant on each other. Just that Ubisoft is porting a game to the handheld system
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>>323471774
>we've been testing our NEW BIG TIME CONSOLE, WITH HANDHELD GAMES

This doesn't seem like an issue to you?
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>source was literally one of those dumbass rumor threads from /v/
Jesus christ.
You people have to learn to accept that we're probably not going to know anything substantial about the NX until Nintendo themselves say something.
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>>323461384
>http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/32543/article/more-rumors-on-nintendo-nx-appear-two-devices-with-one-os/
>Again, bear in mind that this rumor can’t be verified. Our source posted this on 4chan, and it has since been deleted.

lOFTY KEK
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>we want the ps4&vita owners.
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The fact that they even using the term HANDHELD whilst discussing the NX at all really worries me a lot and it should worry you too. Defend them up and down all you want but this is a huge red flag
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>>323463719
kek
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>>323471268
If they are completely reliant on each other, why aren't they being released at the same time?
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>>323471904
>we've been testing our NEW BIG TIME CONSOLE, WITH HANDHELD GAMES
>we
>our
So Ubisoft Bucharest is making the NX? I thought it was Nintendo.

Also
>handheld games on a handheld
U see nothing wrong with this. Do you?
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>>323471851
>>323471774
>2 devices with one single OS

Can you guys read?
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>>323472201
>handheld games on a handheld
Nope. I see nothing wrong with that.
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>>323472120
can you not read or something?

>According to him, NX is a portable device and a home console. There will be two different devices

Literally in the OP
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>>323472365
Yes, and?
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>>323472406
>with one OS

I swear you guys are illiterate
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>>323472120
People have been speculating this for months. Also one of the main problems with Nintendo is that they can't support both a handheld and a console fast, and satisfy both audiences in a timely manner. If this is true, they can get games out faster, and the handheld/console fanbase will no longer whine when the other system gets supported.
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>>323472483
My netbook and my desktop PC both run Win10.
I don't see the problem here.
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>>323469948
Well yeah, this is why I mentioned that some games could be made exclusively for the home console version of they were too demanding for the handheld altogether.
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>>323472483
>Being able to make games for 2 systems is bad
I fail to see your logic
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ENOUGH WITH THE FUCKING GIMMICKS!
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Why are you believing in a rumor that started in 4chan of all places? Out of all the rumors that started on /v/ only two came true.
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>>323464304
if this rumour is true then it means the WiiU's life span was 5 years. The average lifespan for a console
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>>323459882
>asscreed liberation

jesus christ will this be another under powered piece of shit console with no support?
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>>323461968
Nintendo is all about them toys and mobile gaming now. I have no idea why /v/ likes Nintendo.
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I was thinking it seemed pretty early, but it's been almost 5 years since the 3DS came out which so far has been the average lifespan for Nintendo handhelds.
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>tfw the home console will work as a sort of hub and you'll have to be certain distances from it to visit different parts of games, forcing players to...... go outside
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>>323472365
Have you heard of a windows phone?
Granted, Windows 8 was shit, but that's not the point.
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>>323471268
sony didn't market the vita at all
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>>323474519
They did, but not that much.

It was actually probably comparable to the amount of marketing the Wii U got, though Nintendo's Wii U ads early on were really shit. Nobody even knew what the fuck it was for ages, they eventually had to make commercials where they actually told you it was a new system instead of an add-on for the Wii.
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>>323462604
>its actually more of a pain in the dick to play modern consoles than PC games
>don't even have splitscreen anymore

Its p. hard to justify why I bought a PS4.
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>>323473357
>being able to run the entire mobile library on your home console
>"gimmick"

This is the first concept they've done in ages that isn't a gimmick and makes a ton of sense.

>tfw if they'd thought of this a generation ago MM3D would be playable in 1080 on my TV
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>>323470727
>>making big money off toys and dolls so who cares about games lol

Nintendo has always treated video games as yet another form of toy. The "hardcore gamer-friendly Nintendo of the past" never existed except on the lenses of childhood nostalgia goggles.
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>>323461968
>shit first party games
This is some shit taste
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>>323475665
It's ironic that Wii U has some of the only complex, challenging and/or mechanically thought out games this generation
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>>323471195
>any nintendo system
>no games
lmao, even Virtual Boy had like 3 solid titles
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>>323459882
>There's a Ubisoft Bucharest
>They're charged with porting dead Vita games to DoA Nintendo handhelds

Sounds about right.
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>>323476141
What Wii U games are "complex?"
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>>323461968
I don't think you realize how long it's been.
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>>323477202
It's Ubisoft of Romania
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>>323459882
>Open Article
>MORE RUMORS

Oh, so it's fucking nothing?

>>>/trash/
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>Iwata never got to see the NX
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>>323468774

Updated
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>>323459882

>Nx stealing dead corpose Vita games.

oh god
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>>323459882
>Assassin's Creed Liberation
rrreeeeeeeed a little bit. would've preferred Rayman.
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>>323471268
sounds sorta like M$ did with the xbone
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>>323477964
>Updated
more like went full retard
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>>323478515

>more like sonyggers went full retard

Agree'd
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>>323478128

Then you would have gotten a shitty rushed port of Rayman 2 instead.
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>>323477964
ruined it you faggot, don't even dislike xbox its just not funny
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>TOP KEK GIMMICKS

You faggots actually want another dudebro console? fucking kill yourselves.
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>>323459882
>4chan is the source
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>>323479937

nope. You guys ruined it first.

This is original one.
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>>323459882
Nintendo sucks at hardware. Just fucking die already.
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>>323477295
wonderful 101

and its better then anything on the ps4
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Does Nintendo even have any third party support anymore?
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>>323459882
>ports that are years old

Seem about right, Wii U all over again
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>>323459882

>Source: 4chan.

Name 10 instances when 4chan has been a credible source since its creation?
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>>323481253
Nintendo doesn't suck at hardware. In fact, with what they have, they do some pretty magical things. Play Xenoblade, Splatoon, SM3DW, Bayonetta, MK8, and even Mario Maker (Incredibly intuitive touch controls).

There are other things you can do with hardware beyond blur and bloom. You can also make games fun.
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>>323482397
It is a shame 3rd party companies shit on them, but then they also shit on those companies.

Like their reasons for not having GTA on the GC was because of not wanting to project a certain image.

Then Resident Evil 4 and Killer 7 were exclusives along with Twin Snakes. The GC had some good 3rd party stuff but the Wii was a start to a bad trend.
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