Mother is overrated and the crocodile guy from donkey kong is literally forced meme tier at this point thanks to /v/.
I just want nintendo to make a fire emblem fighting game already.
>Putting the best girl as DLC
>tfw the only nintendo things i care about are fire emblem and smash bros
1, everything else can fade into irrelevancy for all i care
2 is objectively the best option.
Donkey Kong has sold much more and is more iconic than Mother or Fire Emblem.
DK having 5 characters, FE having 4, and Mother having 2 seems pretty balanced to me.
You can't stop me from picking blue, faggot.
>important antagonist of the series over supporting protagonist of Mother 3
all is right in the world
>people call Giegue a obvious mewtwo clone due to a popular fan model and similar design
>saying that when he hold more knowledge to PK/PSI usage than all the Mother protags making him a potential unique fighter
>people say Ninten a shit because le asthma attack and mostly use defensive PSI
>implying they won't pull the same shit with Ness saying Paula taught him a couple of offensive PK moves
>not making him a god-tier character and using the asthma attack shit as a limit to his godliness
God damn do I like the Mother options in 3. I wish we could have some combination of un-cloney characters. Robin Ike Corrin Marth for FE, DK Diddy K. Rool Dixie for DK, Ness Lucas Masketta Gigue for Mother.
Mother ended with 3 and Ninten is just proto-Ness anyway.
>people actually think 1 and 3 are good
>DK fags still this salty over Krool and dixie
tell me you wouldn't want to buy and play as a fat walrus frost lord that shoots out dragons out of his horn
Objectively speaking, 2 is the only correct option
It's the only option that shuts down Mother, a dead series that doesn't even deserve 2 reps
OP forgot Option 4 where FE dominates, DK gets 1 other character and Mother is bottom bitch. Option 4 is what Sakurai will always go with, if at all giving DK a 3rd character.
>DK fans always bitch and bitch over Krool and Dixie
>But never Cranky
Why? Cranky's just as prominent to the DK games as DK and Diddy, so why aren't more people sucking him off?
Why are two characters that only sometimes show up more popular then him?
I don't even care about DK that much, but I always found it strange
FE only got so many reps because meleefags love roy, Lucina was switched to her own slot last second, and Corrin is marketable/a new character japan cares about.
Next game only Marth/Robin/Ike have a solid chance of returning as much as I like Roy.
Mother is fine with Ness and Lucas. Porky could be an interesting character, but Ness and Lucas are enough for Mother.
I am a firm believer that Marth and Ike need to be phased out. Change Marth into Lucina, change Ike into Chrom, and add 1-2 characters from the new FE and you have an accurate representation of FE.
Donkey Kong, Diddy, Dixie, and King K. Rool represent the Country series perfectly. No one gives a shit about those tikis, and walruses.
Can there be an option that is choice 2 but instead of Roy, Lucina is the DLC?
>i'm killing Smash
good, series isn't going to last after it hits 75 characters MAX
you know ass Sakurai and Nintendo wouldn't want to adapt to SFV's season pass/bison dollar shit other than ending the series
>phase out the OG of FE
>but add mah waifu/husbando from Awakening and/or Fates
He's an NPC in all the games except 1. Dixie is the protagonist of 1 Country game and playable in the same game Cranky is, and King K. Rool is the main villain of 3 games, and is paired with DK in a few other games.
If you think Cranky fits better than Dixie or K. Rool, you're nutts anon.
FE is different from Pokemon. Marth and Ike are nothing more than "fanservice" at this point, and are completely irrelevant going forward. Make way for the new FE that Awakening has spawned.
>those mother character choices
How do you fuck up that fucking badly holy shit
Why exactly does a series like Mother need more shit when it's already well-represented? Why not have a bunch of characters from unpresented games instead?
man, cranky fans are really getting annoying each and every day
>more franchise variety is a bad thing
He's still a pretty Iconic character, regardless of how long ago he was used. You don't see people rallying up about Cranky. Cranky is one of those characters that people say "oh, cool" to. Hell, if the fucking DK crew from DK64 showed up for Smash along with Cranky, He'd be the least talked about character out of the bunch. and how long ago was DK64? Exactly.
Why the fuck would I want Lucina as DLC
Why isn't there an option to keep Corrin who's actually an interesting looking fighter, and get rid of the worst clone and character the series has ever had
There are people still assmad about the Smash Direct. Kek.
>my npc character was playable once therefore more deserving than K.Rool and Dixie
reminder Dixie almost joined Brawl and Cranky became a stage prop despite TF fanservice.
>didnt notice DK gets 6 characters and adds 2 heavies
and here I thought 3 was the obvious choice, but mother doesnt need 3 of the same character and a clone of mewtwo. Though Porky would be a great addition
Returns sold more than the whole FE franchise combined, just a thought.
chrom and lucina are already irrelevant as none will show up in another mainline game as FE almost always swaps protags
Ike and Marth are the two exceptions as they starred in two games and are the most popular lords.
Yes, he's been in almost as many games as them, but the interaction you have with him is very very limited. You don't see Cranky as much as you see DK, Diddy, Dixie, or any other playable Kong for that matter!
Second mascot? He's 4th at best behind Diddy and Dixie.
No one is taking away anything from Cranky. He's a staple in the DKC series, but to put him in the same level as DK, Diddy or hell even K. Rool is just moronic.
>You don't see Cranky as much as you see DK, Diddy, Dixie
Dixie has one game. in her very FEW other appearances she's multiplayer fodder
>Second mascot? He's 4th at best behind Diddy and Dixie.
Is that why he's deemed necessary for a DKC game and Dixie isn't?
>hell even K. Rool is just moronic.
K.Rool is fucking nothing. The hell you on?
>That's why NOA used him for the meme-tastic TF campaign.
that basically like saying Ridley and Dr. Wily are Nintendo's top dog villains because of some little campaign sale NoA set up during halloween(?)
More like his Sheik. Had Sakurai gone with the Diddy & Dixie idea fully, it'd be a tag-team character like Zelda/Sheik or Pokemon Trainer and ergo Dixie would of had her own moveset.
>Dixie has one game. in her very FEW other appearances she's multiplayer fodder
Cranky been playable in one main game and all the other appearances are just his usual NPC role.
Well, it wouldn't have been a direct copy of Diddy if that's what you're implying. Could of been a Lucas or Wolf type of deal, but not something like Pichu or Falco in Melee.
The initial idea was to represent the tag team gameplay of DKC. Dixie had her own set of abilities in DKC2/3 so obviously she'd have key differences from Diddy.
Ok? Why is being an NPC a bad thing?
Guys we gotta cut Zelda, Bowser Jr, Ganon, Shiek, Falco, all the Pokemon (you don't directly play as them in the mainline games), WFT and Palutena
Fun fact: They were initially planning to include a bunch of trophies of Rare's characters but it all got scrapped. That could explain Diddy's absence.
>3 is the best choice
>I'm a Robin main
As much as I don't like Mother I'm going with 1 since if I'm doing my math right that's the only one that doesn't cut any characters from smash that are already in it.
of all the additions OP's image suggest the only good one would be Dixie.
>A character that's completely different and controllable in single player
I've seen some obvious trolls in my day but damn
No she wasn't. Said it once and said it again, Sakurai was planning on her being a tag team partner for Diddy much like Zelda and Sheik.
> In fact, Diddy Kong was going to put out in Dixie Kong and the pair. Replacing the two people instantly by touch
by creating a so system
Press Down B to swap to another character, like Zelda and Sheik and in the DKC games. Nana's just an AI that follows Popo, the player character.
how is being also a multiplayer element is bad as well?
let's cut Luigi, Falco, Lucas, and Peach while we're at it
since Dixie was going to be tag-team element, let's go cut Shiek and ZSS.
In all honesty we're lucky to have two mother reps, their also both pretty unique I understand lucas used ness as base but most of their moves are entirely different. Porky is the number one choice for the next mother rep. The female party member and poo had all if their pk abilities given to ness and lucas. Although the non pk party members would be cool I don't know what they would bring as far as originality, maybe duster or teddy I guess. Porky would be the best choice being one of primary antagonists and actually being able to work good. I feel there is to little for the M1 giygas to work and the masked man just isn't as important as the former two.u
Has a ton of his own games
Ok? NPC's are bad I guess so cut him
Has her own game on top of being a primary NPC in her franchi-OH WAIT PURGE NPCS GRRRRRR
I'm picking the hidden number 4 and you can't stop me
Why don't you like mother games friend? It's my favorite game series.
Robin, Ike and Marth are all unique characters and Roy (along with every other Melee character except for Young Link) should never have been cut.
DK doesn't need Cranky or King K. Old but K. Rool and Dixie should have been in 4 from the start.
Mother has never had a good game and is a dead franchise that barely deserves two reps
Despite how I enjoy Mother, 3 of those characters would play pretty much the same. Then again all the characters would probably have movesets of some other character. So I guess I'll go with 3 just because FE never interested me and DK isn't my jam.
So you prefer the same human with different clothes on?
>Sakurai writes that he himself thought they were adding too many characters from Fire Emblem, but after speaking with the development staff, he was assured that Corrin would make for an interesting fighter.
nice try hackurai memer
You actually don't have ANYTHING of my opinions except Donkey Kong - The only ones that should exist is DK and Diddy. K. Rool is dead, Microsoft killed him.
Basically 1 minus the DLC. This is pretty close.
Ninten, Ness, Lucas. Those three cover the entire series and is almost too much nowadays given how... dead Earthbound is.
>K. Rool is dead, Microsoft killed him.
for the millionith time to banjoshitters, K.Rool and Shitstal are not owned by Rare or Microsoft
they aren't even on the credits on any Smash and the k.rool trademark renewal should have kill this speculation indefinitely.
Add him and DK will have fine representation.
Mother is tiny as fuck and doesn't need more characters.
Cut the 2 Marth clones
2 has the least clones
>there are people who want 3 Marths
>there are people who want 3 Nesses
>very first time we got a vehicular fighter in Smash after Sakurai dropped Excitebiker
>very little representation
>already retards bitching against it
this fandom is full of fucking retards
Clearly 1. It has the biggest variety of unique characters since Dixie would most likely be a Diddy clone. DLC sucks but the base characters are the best.
dev team pls go
i think both DK and MOTHER are sated with just 2 characters
MOTHER ended and DK has an atrocious extended cast with zero appeal beyond DK and Diddy, though Cranky and Rambi are fine im not holding out on them being playable
DK got completely skimped the fuck out on stage locales and music though.
Magicant is THE best stage choice to sum up the MOTHER series as a whole but its succumbed to the Flying Man cancer and is held hostage on the 3DS version. the music choice is lame too; battle themes are a complete no-show
the high amount of FE shit sticks out like a sore thumb because Sakurai cant contain his cocklust for it, but i think just marth/ike/corrin/robin would have been fine
The whole point of Ness and Lucas is that they encompass abilities from their entire Party.
Having one of the party members would be redundant, and the series is too fucking small to have lots of characters
How about Ninten not being in at all.
Also I want the Mother characters to be portrayed correctly.
Also Dixie would use her hair and be air oriented and maybe have some moves taken from Tiny Kong considering they are sisters or something.
Up B can be hair thing
Side B can be a guitar slam with high knockback
Down B could be a a mini DK final smash with her guitar
Standard B could be a popgun that shoots gumballs and could would act like Diddy's but travel in a straight line or maybe be bouncy or something.
>having any of Jeff's neat tools
Personally if I could decide Mother reps I'd have Ness, Lloyd, and Kumatora. You get all three games and the three consistent party member archetypes.
there are only four categories of non-protagonists from represented series in smash that none of the additional mother characters fall into, i'm afraid.
>Adding characters to smash before the main protagonist of the game
That's fucking stupid. Mother just isn't big enough to add all the faggy ass sidekicks.
The 3 main characters are MORE then enough
Are you for or against more Sonic characters?
I hope for Tails and Eggman.
I hope you know that as long as Sakurai is around, no cut character is going to be reduced into an alternate costume.
A lot of people like to whine "why isn't Dr. Mario just an alt for Mario?". Funny enough, he originally was going to be. http://www.gamnesia.com/news/sakurai-explains-why-dr-mario-is-his-own-character-in-smash-bros
His reasoning is basically he didn't want to offend people who liked him in Melee, and honestly, I see his point. Sure he's just Mario in a doctor outfit but in the context of Smash, he's his own character, his own identity. Giving him a forward air that meteor smashes people or giving him FLUDD would be like having Falco have Fox's lasers or losing out on the spike on his down-air, it'd just feel wrong.
I have to go with 2 for cranky
But if you replaced Dixie with Cranky in 3 then it would be 3 no contest. Donkey, Cranky, Diddy and K.Rool is the perfect Dong lineup, and all of those mother characters would be glorious
All of these are pretty silly since none of these franchises really need six reps, though I guess DK is the most deserving of more characters given it's scale and popularity, but Fredrik is such a wild stretch.
Frankly number 3 seems even more ridiculous than number 1. I love the mother games but aside from the terrible characters choices (Fucking Ninten, of all things, really?), it's such an utterly minuscule and unimportant series that I can't see it deserving more than it already has.
I'd much rather all of these have just stuck to two or three reps and then some unrepresented series get characters.
He is in literally every Donkey Kong game ever if I'm not mistaken, and is literally the original Donkey Kong from the arcade games.
He is absolutely more important than Dixie or K.Rool
DHD's Neutral special
>>drink a potion to give himself temporary power boost/throw it at a foe as a debuff
Cloud's Limit Break
fags cry sakurai will just borrow shit from other characters for Dixie and K.Rool yet Cranky is just as bad.
>he's so important
So why hasn't he been in smash 4? If he was important like you say he was, Dixie wouldn't have been considered and planned before him? If he was important like you say he was then why didn't he get a mii costume like King K. Rool? If he was important why didn't he make it into the base game AND the DLC?
>Why do people care more about a character that's been playable for over twenty years more than someone who did little more than sit in a chair until about two years ago
I mean, I like Cranky, in fact he's probably my favorite Kong, but it's obvious that people are drawn more to the character they can control.
K Rool feels like a bit of a bandwagon thing with people being more concerned over getting a villain than who the character actually is, though. I don't get that one.
He's been an NPC for the majority of his existence, Dixie's been playable since day one. You can't act like all appearances are equal in scale.
>You can't act like all appearances are equal in scale.
You're missing the fact that he's the OG Donkey Kong.
This is the first Donkey Kong, the one that stole peach and threw barrels at Mario.
He has the most history with Donkey Kong as a franchise, and Nintendo in general, not only is he one of the original breakout hits for Nintendo, but he is from one of the games that really led the resurgence of games in general after the crash.
Dixie might have been playable first, but she essentially boils down to Diddy Kong with hair, and Cranky Kong is more important to videogames as a character.
I don't understand how you can argue that Dixie deserves to get in more than Cranky.
>You're missing the fact that he's the OG Donkey Kong.
Frankly I don't think it's fair to include arcade Donkey Kong popularity in with Cranky's. Most people don't even know they're supposed to be the same, to them the Donkey Kong now is the same Donkey Kong from then. Even Nintendo typically operates in such a way. The whole "Cranky is the arcade DK" thing feels more like trivia than anything that really matters.
The game wasn't called "Cranky Kong", Cranky didn't become a character until '94.
>Most people don't even know they're supposed to be the same
They would when its plainly stated or shown in his reveal video, and his Smash attack inevitably is revealed to be him turning into a Giant 8bit DK and throwing barrels.
Baby Mario is Mario himself but Sakurai already shot down the idea of adding any of the Mario Kart/Yoshi babies into Smash Bros.
Edgy Chrom and Super Saiyan God Marth in SMTxFE is also Chrom and other being Marth's decendant yet Sakurai didn't bother to think of that spinoff and go for Corrin instead.
really doesn't matter if they are also a super-iconic character. plus we already have a Donkey Kong decendant throwing barrels items and shit in Smash Bros
I was talking about Dixie. I mentioned K Rool in literally the next sentence, man.
Doesn't really change the fact that hardly anyone associates him with arcade DK. He didn't become Cranky until after the fact and now he's practically a new character that's treated separately in most circumstances. Like I said, him being arcade DK is just a funny bit of trivia.
If he got in they could work that into his character, sure, but in eyes of the rest of the world, Dixie is the more major character.
Eggman is the only decent Sonic they can add
Tails wouldn't wow anybody like for Bayonetta and him along w/ Knuckles could end up being an AT like Shadow.
Shadow would be Sonic again
>but muh Sonic Battle!
irrelevant ass sonic fightan game not even dimps care about
still don't see Sonic's Flare Kick in his Smash's moveset yet.
I hope we never see any more Sonic characters.
Sonic himself is fine since he's iconic and ultra popular and all but the last thing I want is for his series to begin leaking further into what is supposed to be the "Nintendo and guests" game. Same for most of the other third parties but most of them don't have many other characters a lot of people want.
the last thread before the reveal was so much better
less "muh cranky/krool!"/fire emblem bitching
those Kirby/Xenoblade option 4s
the metroidfag bitching, notice they were left out of the discussion due to how whiny they are even outside the playable ridley obsession.
>see Mother column
>all the characters are important protagonists and antagonists
>no lame-o sidekicks anywhere
if i ever said this on starman.net people would maul me over not wanting Jeff or Kumatora in Smash