Why was the 3DS such a success? Is an amazing library really

Yes.

Monster Hunter is all that's needed for a handheld to do well.

It had
monster hunter
pokemon
yokai watch
mario

4 biggest franchises for handheld

>>323452147
>great library
Haha okay

>>323452369
This

It's a meme handheld with shitty meme games that only normies like.

>>323452665

>Yokai watch

Lel and a half

It is comfortable to hold, has great games and support, cheaper games than home consoles while having good length, decent battery life, backwards compatibility, and finally pokemon/monster hunter which has a good following.

>>323452147
A success compared to what?
Certainly not to its predecessor.
And even then its doing numbers that were normal for Nintendo handhelds.

>>323452854
its bigger than pokemon in japan, and handhelds are bigger than consoles in japan

>>323452854
It apparently has a decent fanbase in japan.

>>323452147
It's really easy to make friends with children at a playground if you have one, they all want those streetpass hits. It's even more easy to lure them in if you have high lvl pokemon to trade away, they just do anything to get them !

>>323453072
Isn't it selling more than the DS in its first 4 years and is on track to hit around the same numbers?

pokemon monsterhunter and mario

3ds library sucks.

ds>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3ds

i dont know if i would get one exclusively for 3ds games, but the backwards compatibility is nice and since my ds lite broke ages ago, i have been able to play some amazing ds games like The World Ends With You, 999, Chrono Trigger remake, etc

overall i'm very happy with my purchase, i spend a lot of time on it compared to my consoles which are pretty much Souls machines at this point

>>323453319
DS had shit first party support

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>>323452916
>great games
>decent battery life

>>323453286
4 years into its lifetime DS was around 70-90 million.

>>323453319
Agreed. The DS had a fantastically strong library. The 3DS is disappointingly weak in comparison.

>>323453440
It had great third party support, something 3ds lacks.

>>323452665
I bought one due to

SMT
3D Classics

literally monster hunter
look at the new 3ds

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>>323453072
>A success compared to what?
Compared to everything.

>>323452854

The new Yokai Watch movie is out grossing Star Wars in Japan you retard.

>>323453072
>>323453681
BTFO
T
F
O

>>323453107
>>323453129
and so does the Vita

>>323452147
It literally has one of the best libraries in existence.

Every game on it is god tier and redefines the genre in every single way. Anyone who doesn't own a 3DS is missing out on the greatest gaming experience in the past 30 years of gaming which is why it did well. It had a lot of amazing games and it kept releasing them nonstop every week every month.

>>323453681
Hardly a success when 3DS has two years on PS4 and it, a home console, is already on track to selling more.
It's better to compare it to the other handhelds in its "family".

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MonHun is the best handheld franchise of all time. Whichever handheld platform has MonHun wins the race, the end.

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>>323453851
0/10

>>323453780
>>323453681

PS4 is actually outpacing the 3DS by a pretty huge margin.

>>323453681
How many smartphones were sold?
They are taking away the market, handhelds are dying.

>>323452147
Why was [Gaming device] such a success? Is [Good games] really all that is needed for a [Gaming device] to do well?

Don't be retarded.

>>323452147
I don't even know.

It's really rare to see children these days. They're either playin on their parents cellphone and tablet in Europe>>323452320
. To be honest it boggles my mind how successful it is.

>>323452147
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
It's a Nintendo handheld. When has a Nintendo handheld not been successful?
Virtual Boy isn't handheld.

>>323453681
>>323453780
What a shame, a few seconds longer and I could've just dismissed you as a samefag, now I have to look at you with pity as a complete retard.

>>323453941
Asshurt Vitafag found

>>323453851
10/10

>>323452147


It had an okayish library of games.

>>323452147
Is a cheap system to get for the kiddies

The library is far from amazing tbqf

>>323453851
At least put some effort into your bait

Shame its all but fucking dead

I mean what is even coming out for this thing anymore?

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>>323453898
>Hardly a success when 3DS has two years on PS4
Haha, yeah. Give the Xbone two years and it will catch up!

3DS wasn't a success at all!

>>323453681
>3DS releases in 2010
>PS4 releases in 2013

HURR DURR BTFO IT SOLD MORE

>>323454045
>now i have to look at you with pity....
calm your tits, coldsteel

>>323453924
Why didn't the psp knock the ds out back in the day then? O.o

>>323453792
Vita is discontinued and dead in japan, literally nobody gives a shit about it anymore.

An amazing library is at the end of the day pretty much all any gaming platform needs to do well.

>>323454124
No one cares about XBONE, stop trying so hard.
3DS isn't an amazing success like you retarded drones are insisting, but it certainly wasn't a failure in these awful times for the industry.

>>323454121
Two dq games that will sell like shit because of piracy and fire emblem.

maybe a pokemon game and that's it.

>>323453792
What the fuck does the vita have to do with that game? The game sold units and was a contribution to its success.

>>323453851
>RPGs
>Bravely Default
>Rune Factory 4
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Fire Emblem
>redefining the genre
I'll give you RF4, but in no way do any of the RPGs on the 3DS stand out as some of the best of all time. You're either fucking delusional or stupid if you think these rather generic titles are some of the best of the genre.

>>323454238
Please. If that were the case then the Dreamcast and Gamecube wouldn't have flopped

>>323452147
>Is an amazing library really all that is needed for a handheld to do well

Probably not considering the success of the 3DS.

>>323454238
Tell that to the Dreamcast

>>323454238
Bullshit.

It only needs good marketing.

ps4 has shit for games yet and is still blowing everything else the fuck out.

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>>323452147
>3DS
>an amazing library

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>>323454236
>has all of these games coming out
>discontinued and no one cares

>>323454121
Bravely Second
Fire Emblem Fates
Dragon Quest VII
Dragon Quest VIII
SMT
A new Yu-Gi-Oh game
Monster Hunter X
And another Pokemon game no doubt.

>>323452147
3DS sold worse than the PSP and less than half of the original DS.

I'd hardly call that a "success".

>>323454230
>>323454230
Because PSP would've still lacked any other heavy hitters.
It didn't even have DQ.

>>323454342


The RPGs yet to be released on PS4 appear to be waay more redefining, if anything.

>Why was the 3DS such a success?
Compared to the DS, it's a failure. It only seems successful because the Vita dropped the ball hard.

>Is an amazing library really all that is needed for a handheld to do well?
The 3DS doesn't have an amazing library, it's decent at best.

>>323452147

Have they started selling the black n3ds in NA? I remember the only sellig the white

>>323452147
I haven't bought a game since ALBW

None really interested me, Azran Legacy and Layton Vs Wright were two, but never got around to getting them

Just too many disappointments from Nintendo

>>323454427
must've gotten it confused with DS.

>>323452147
I dont know, it was getting shit on so hard, and everyone expected the Vita to annihilate it, but then Fire Emblem Awakening and Kid Icarus came out, and the hate decreased, and next thing you know its got a fuckton of games and vita is six feet under.

>>323454453
Vita sold 1/10th of the PSP, so the 3DS selling half of the DS (The best selling console of all time) is hardly something to be sad about.

>>323454369
>Gamecube
It had shit games.

>>323454409
Well, it has only the Wii U and the XBOne to compete with. And the Wii U has fuckall third party support and, compared to the Wii or the GC not even that many great first party titles while the XBOne has... literally nothing, as far as I can tell.

>>323453681
That's nice, now how about you use a real source instead of VGChartz?

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>>323454230
It might not have in terms of sale, but I would argue that it was the much better platform.
>MonHun
>Peace Walker
>Portable Ops
>Battlefront
>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Persona 3
>Trails in the Sky
>Valkyria Chronicles II

>>323454592
>The best selling console of all time
That's the ps2, numbnuts.

>>323454592
Is this a good rationalisation in your mind?
Also, PS2 sold a little better than DS, just by a very small margin.

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>>323454549
>>323454453
Sonyggers on suicide watch. Stay salty bros.

Why the fuck they don't bring the New3ds that isn't XL like holy shit i really want a N3DS but i don't want the huge XL version

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>>323454549
>Compared to the most successful handheld of all time, it's a failure.

>>323454230
It did. PSP sold way more than DS

PSP was massive in japan, many still use it today

I'm tired and I don't want support home consoles anymore.

Handhelds have better experiences and less problems.

>>323454446
You forgot FF explores in 2 weeks

>3DS
>amazing library
I want this meme to end.

>>323452834
Monster humtern is for normies

>>323454775
Compare it to the GBA, too. It's still lacking.

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>Animal Crossing: New Leaf
>Bravely Default
>Mario Kart 7
>Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
>Ocarina of Time 3D
Rate my small 3DS library, what games should I get next?

>>323454775
The DS is the 3DS's immediate predecessor, so comparing the 3DS to the DS is 100% fair, just like how the DS was compared to the GBA.

The only competition it had in the hand held market were smartphones. The vita didn't really compete

>>323454230
>O.o
Die in a fire.

there is anyway to break the region lock of the 3ds's?

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>>323453898
>>323454124
can we put this shit to rest yet, by nintendo handheld status the 3ds has been selling slower than both the GBA and the DS

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Post your face when the 3DS was shilled here to hell and back but you managed to dodge the bullet.

>>323454230
>O.o
Delete this.

>>323454549
You do not compare a system's sales to one of the most successful selling systems of all time, otherwise literally everything is a flop except for the PS2.

>>323454968
welcome to nintendo :^)
#4theplayer

>>323454921
You call that small?
I have pokemon y and SMT IV.

>>323454843
Seriously

Most of the weakest entries in their respective series been 3DS games
>3D Land
>NSMB2
>Triforce Heroes
>MK7
>Pokemon X& Y

>>323454921
DOA Dimensions

>>323454815
I love how handhelds are underpowered. lazy devs can't fall back on pretty graphics to sell their games. forces everyone to actually make compelling experiences with smaller budgets.

>>323454776
So? It has to be a success in America to actually be good.

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>>323452147
Yes.
With a library like this, what's not to love? I've spent over 1000 hours on my 3DS.

If it weren't for the 3DS, this gen would have been the worst gen we've ever had.

>>323454968
yes

>>323455050
>You do not compare a system's sales to one of the most successful selling systems of all time
Ya.
Comparing the 3ds to it's direct predecessor is a bad idea because it makes Nintendo look bad.

Nintendo Soul for life

>>323454971
And yet it's the second best selling console of this generation.

That makes it a success, anon.

>>323454706
clearly he is talking about handhelds shit for brains.

>>323452665
Replace Yokai Watch with SMT and you right

>>323455024
I still got one for Etrian Odyssey and upcoming Dragon Quest.
Third party is what always draws me to consoles, no idea why people ramble on about how first party means something.

>>323455024
Way to go anon. You sure dodged paying money to play video games. Keep it up.

>>323454446
>SMTIV Final
I've been waiting for this!

>>323454921
Fire Emblem and Majora's Mask, steer away from gen 6 Pokemon, at least until Pokemon Z comes out.

>>323455149
really? because i really want a regular N3DS

>>323452147
The 3DS is not even half of what the DS and PSP was.
I hope the Vita also gets pirated soon. Now that will be great.

>>323455050
>You do not compare a system's sales to one of the most successful selling systems of all time

I'm comparing the 3DS to its predecessor. The fact that the DS is one of the most successful video game platforms of all time would only be irrelevant if I were to compare the DS to something like the Game.com or the Atari Lynx.

Comparing the PS2 to the PS3 is also a fair comparison. Comparing the PS2 to the Apple/Bandai Pippin is not.

>amazing library
Like what?
Almost everything on the 3ds is kiddie games
as in games that don't have any depth to them and are aimed at kids

>>323455264

Even their flagship Pokemon is moving to Smartphones while Yokai Watch is pressuring it

>>323455184
Yet you're ignoring it's biggest competitor that's trashing it, mobile games

>>323454754
I think one of the special versions is, I believe it is the animal crossing one.

>>323455131
how was codename steam? looks like xcom.

>>323452665
That reminds me. I really want a new mario for 3DS.

I still replay 3D Land here and there. I liked the bite sized levels. That and a new zelda would be cool, but really I should probably finish majora's mask as I haven't ever played it before.

The 3DS is successful, but not as ridiculously successful as the DS.

The DS had extra stuff going for it from the get-go. Like the Wii, it was released at just the right time, before the advent of smart phones. This meant that the DS was the place to go for casual portable games. It had the best of both worlds; casuals loved it and so did regular gamers because of the system's wide variety of games across the spectrum

3DS still has some of that type of casual stuff, but it's not as big a selling point or deciding factor when, by the time it launched, most people had smartphones capable of getting their casual shovelware fix. Basically, it's as successful a handheld could possibly ever hope to be now that we're in the smartphone age.

Also, you have to remember that the 3DS only really started doing decently like a year after launch. Remember that it launched at 250 fucking dollars and basically no games. It didn't start selling like hotcakes until after they slashed the price.

>>323452147
For handhelds it is. Consoles have to have top of the line graphics and the "promise" of games.

>>323454038
It's hard to not be successful when you don't have much competition, plus Nintendo made it so their handhelds had some interaction with the contemporary home console and that was beyond just cross platform titles.
The PSP was the first actual handheld competitor, but that was when Nintendo was arguably at its prime in that market (it didn't help the DS was much easier to pirate for).
Also a funny thing is like 9/10 people I know who have/had a PSP use it mainly to emulate SNES and GBA games

>>323454472
The other post stated that the system that has monsterhunter wins the race, this just isnt true. D:

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>>323455264
Don't use the best girl for such shitposting.

>>323452147
Yes, all it needs is a good library

3DS is on track to sell worse than the GBA and PSP

I wouldn't call that a success

In terms of having to compete with tablets and smartphones, then sure it's been successful.

>>323452147
>amazing library

The 3DS is Nintendo's most disappointing handheld to fate.

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R8 my 3ds library.

>>323455542
>implying PSP was hard to pirate

unlike the DS flash carts, it didn't even cost money

>>323455131

3DS's library is so good it singlehandedly beats the shit out of it's predecessors in every single way.

How is it possible that in one gen we got the best handheld in gaming history while the worst handheld in gaming history came out and bombed and died to the 3DS in a year or so?

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>>323455442
Mobile games are trashing everything, anon. They aren't only the 3DS' enemy, they're an enemy to us all.

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>>323455451
jesus anon I LOVE YOU i'm going to try to get that!

>>323453319
both have etrian odyssey

>>323454230
americans are too casual for monster hunter

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>>323454971
Friendly reminder that anytime a sony friend mentions that the 3DS (Which is beating every current gen console in sales by a massive margin) is selling less than the DS, they always somehow, someway fail to bring up that the Vita is selling a fraction of what the DS/PSP sold.
What's it on? like 10 mil after being out for 4 years?

Pic related.

I laugh every single time.

>>323455398
Monster Hunter 4U is harder than any new game on any system. And Pokemon has more depth than any other game on any system. Pretty big fail there anon.

>>323455471
>3D Land
I'm surprised at how well the 3d works with it.

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>>323455686
>3DS's library is so good it singlehandedly beats the shit out of it's predecessors in every single way.

L O L

>>323454342
>I'll give you RF4

As a fan of Harvest Moon ever since the SNES game was first release I will say: Rune Factory 4 sucks.

>>323454921
Pokemon Super Mystery Dungeon

>>323455631
atlusfag here so 9/10

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>>323455242
Exclusives mean something. On this board mostly everyone has a decent PC so if it's a multiplat you get the PC version. The only two reasons you would buy a console are: you couldn't afford anything else or you want to play the console exclusives not on PC. First party games are almost always exclusives, which is why people care about them. This is also what makes Nintendo handhelds so popular. Almost everything released on a Nintendo handheld is exclusive to that handheld.

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How does the vita manage to still be better than the 3DS despite selling a mere fraction of the 3DS's sales?

>>323455631
>he doesn't have the special edition of SMT 4

What the hell are you doing nigger? 0/10

>>323454921
Kid Icarus and Etrian Odyssey IV.

>>323455631
>>fuckload of ps4 games, most jrpg and weeaboo shit
>>owns shit like FPS on a console.
>>Not owning bloodborne, argually the only game worth to have on ps4.

-10/10 get cancer and die.

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>>323452147
>such a success
>lowest selling handheld Nintendo has ever made despite FIVE iterations alongside a piss-poor library of games

>>323455453
Not many people played it (mostly due to them disliking the art style, myself included), but the ones that did swear by it and say it's an excellent game.

>>323455024
>>323455317
>Fire Emblem and Majora's Mask
MM is a definite, debating on getting Awakening or just waiting for Fates and seeing how it turns out.

>at least until Pokemon Z comes out.
That's at least when I will be considering it.

>>323455765
That's part of why I like replaying it. It's just done so well that you think it'd be more interestingly used for other titles on the whole. It's definitely got its uses.

3D Land is definitely the best example of it though. ALBW is really subtle though as well, which is worth appreciation.

>>323455819
>Rune Factory 4 sucks
Get out.

>>323455751
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>>323452147
>is it really GAMES that make a video GAME console sell well?

This must be bait

>>323455631
>Awakening
Stop looking there.
Thanks for conveniently putting it at the top.

>>323453681
Nevermind the fact that the PS4 is outselling the 3DS at a ratio of greater than 2:1.

>>323455853
ok but where are the games*

*games refers to actual videogames, not Underage Pantsu Quest

>>323455974
>not liking 4th best FE game ever made

>>323455510
yeah i'd have to agree, so many of my friends who dont particularly care for games got a nintendo ds because the prime was a few years before the smartphone boom

>>323455751
Can we leave the vita out of this? Please?

>>323455853
Better support, Better online, Better software, Not region locked, WAY more 3rd party support,.

The biggest reason however is that the Vita has less "play it safe" games, while those kind of games make up the entire 3DS library

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>>323454230
>O.o
>>323455553
>D:

>>323455453
It's alright, it more Valkyria Chronicles then, xcom.

>>323455957
The Dreamcast had plenty of good games. It was Sega's past mistakes that doomed it (and EA not joining up).

>>323455686
>3DS's library is so good it singlehandedly beats the shit out of it's predecessors in every single way.
You're delusional.

>>323455957
Games don't sell a games console, marketing and image does.
It's the same for all products.

>>323455510
>Still blaming smartphones.
Mobile gaming is PC gaming on the go, it's not portable gaming. Smart phone games are the same as the browser games available on computers 10 years ago. Smartphones and tablets compete with desktops and laptops, not dedicated gaming devices.

The 3DS is doing poorly compared to the DS because people don't give a fuck about 3D displays in games, it doesn't have games people want, and even the games that try to replicate the successes from the DS do poorly because they're half-assed and made poorly.

>>323455731
Enjoy anon

>>323455819
I feel RF4 is a good introduction to the HM series, and the adventuring keeps the game from being too stale. I can't really say whether or not it's better or worse than it's predecessors, but I had a good time with it, and I look forward to finishing it someday.
>>323456047
It has a shit story.
>Robin has a Plegian symbol on his robe
>everybody ignores it
>Robin held back on stabbing Chrom
>muh bonds
>BONDS
When did the game become Persona?

>>323455853
The support for the vita is amazing, it's sad that none of it is from sony. Vita is getting more games next year than the past two years of 3ds games. The vita's library is twice as big as the 3ds and growing. 3ds is stagnant.

There should be less focus on 3D games for the 3DS. Yeah, I get its in the name, but portables shine with 2D. That and 2D games are easier to develop. Just go ahead and compare the library of the DS to the 3DS. DS had so many fucking games in all sorts of genres from all sorts of developers. For the 3DS, there are much fewer. And yeah, you still have your obligatory nintendo franchise titles and stuff like monster hunter, but it simply doesn't have the breadth that the DS had.

Look at the vita for a more extreme example of what happens when you try to go all-out with 3D games on a handheld.

I would just love to see handhelds remain a place for solid 2D games. I want high quality 2D stuff along the lines of Neo Geo and Saturn, not goofy looking 2.5D stuff ala NSMB.

>>323455892
I have DS2, MGS5, and BB downloaded on my PS4.

>>323456042
>"where are the games?"
>"oh but not this game"

>>323455925
It was the only game in the series that I bought and the only one that I dropped before finishing.
Worse waifus in the series and the game felt boring and lazily done all around.
No wonder the devs gone bankrupt.

>>323452147
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
But it wasn't. It will become Nintendo's worst selling handheld, and what's worse, it's right off the heels of their best selling handheld. They've lost 66% market share in a single generation. 80% if you throw the Wii U into the equation.

4 out of 5 people who bought a Nintendo product last generation did not buy one this generation.

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>>323452147
>amazing library
Come on now

>>323455319
look at the homebrew thread on /vg/

we already have CFW possible up to the latest version (10.3, downgrades to 9.2 for CFW)), but hurry up because 10.4 is coming out soon so you won't be able to update to 10.3 to which the downgrader is optimized for.

.etc .etc

>>323456292
All FE games have shit story and many flaws. Awakening also has too many "one trait" characters, Sumia is always clumsy and that's it, invisible guy is invisible etc... But none of those are reason to play FE games. PoE and Fe7 have generic story, I only liked story of FE4 (it can get Twilight-tier) and FE5 (very simple but not bad).

>Another Vita trashing thread

Thank you jesus.

>>323456067
>less "play it safe" games
>weebshit

>>323456095
Ok, but you can't sell a console WITHOUT having games for it, that's why the PS3 struggled for years (aside from the insane price point). Consoles can fail because of plenty of reasons, but it can't succeed without a decent library, nor can it fail due to a decent library.

>inb4 ps4
Ps4 has more games than just Bloodborne, especially if you account for normie multiplats.

>>323456505
>4 out of 5 people who bought a Nintendo product last generation did not buy one this generation.

Pray the trend continues

>>323456416
>where are the games besides that one incredibly generic and overdone to death genre

>well excuse me princess

>>323455751
>>323455686
>they always somehow, someway fail to bring up that the Vita is selling a fraction of what the DS/PSP sold.
So your entire metric for success is that it's beating the Vita? Also poorfag, I've got a gaming PC, Xbone, PS4, WiiU, Vita, and 3DS, that hardly makes me a "sony friend".

>What's it on? like 10 mil after being out for 4 years?
Nearly the same could be said about the WiiU, nintoddler

>>323456229
The issues you bring up are true, but the BIGGEST factor is the fact that people looking for a casual game fix now have smart phones. Want to play tetris or another puzzle game? Before, they would go to a DS and play tetris DS or meteos. Now they just play the tetris app on their smartphone. It's not hard to understand. They no longer need to buy a dedicated device for little pick-up-and-play casual games. Which were a big part of the DS's success.

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>>323455853
Because the devs actually have a hardware to work with?
Also less underage players because most of the games are made for teens and up.

>>323452147
>an amazing library

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

It was a success because Nintenjew overprice fucking everything and because nostalgiafags buy anything with their name on it.

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>>323455131
>Mfw I have 12 games for my 3DS
>Mfw I thought I had all the best ones
>Mfw this list

Fucking hell, when will this thing stop delivering?

>>323456632
>it doesn't count because i've convinced myself that all the games are kusoge
>shut up those don't count because i said so
Why are nintendo fans so underage?

>>323456572
But for a game that gets praised for its characters and occasionally it's story, it certainly offends and a bad story in any game, especially an RPG, will certainly drop it down a letter grade or two.

>>323456616
>you can't sell a console WITHOUT having games for it
The PS3 sold pretty well though.

>>323456086
yeah, was gonna say that too.

>>323455708
I'll agree with you there

Just bought a used DS recently. The 3DS library looks like a joke in comparison. I'll wait until emulation is good and ready, thanks.

Why does this thread have so much asshurt Vitafags mad that they wasted their money on the biggest handheld blunder ever that they have to attack the 3DS's amazing library of games?

It's depressing isn't it, people actually wasted money on a dead handheld with no games when they could have bought a 3DS instead.

>>323456145
No one will buy a console if they have nothing to play on it, regardless of hype/marketing.

Example: If the NX releases with no games announced it will not sell, even if Ninty would throw all their money at marketing. This is an objective fact.

>>323455853
the Vita has all the games people want, such as____ and ___:___ ___ and don't forget ____ 2

my favorite series remains _______ however, and I'll make sure to buy it first chance I get

>>323455762
>pokemon
This is a joke.

Monster Hunter is great though, but its one of the only real games on the system

>>323456857
It only started selling well after they slashed the price and started coming out with good games for it.

>>323455631
>Dat etrian oddysey 2 told box
nice

>>323456857
And the PS4

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>>323452147
>success
Do you faggots not remember the first year
>literally no games
>overpriced as fuck
>so overpriced they had to actually give people who bought the game before the price drop free games

It's still a success not to be a contrarian faggot, but all that bullshit really fucked them up for having a DS 2.0 tier success, same shit that happened to the Xbone. Also the 3DS has pretty poor 3rd party success compared to the DS, GBA, GBC.

>>323456857
the PS4 is best selling console too

>>323455131
It's amazing looking at this list of games and seeing no japanese or weebshit on the 3DS while when you compared it to the VIta, it's nothing but absolutely weebshit.

The main reason why the 3DS succeeded is the absolutely zero weebshit games on it as well. People hate weeb games on handhelds as they are never good.

>>323456889
Why not get a 3ds and have access to both libraries?

>>323456857
AFTER it had actual games release and the price dropped, which was well into its lifespan, there was a reason Sony was in so much trouble before the PS4.

>>323456347
This delusion.

Vita isn't getting Dragon quest, Final Fantasy, Etrian Odyssey, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Zelda, Metroid and more. This looks like another god tier 2016 for the 3DS just like 2015.

What does the Vita have?

Absolutely JACK SHIT

>>323457074
Because a used DS is 40 bucks and I don't feel like spending more for hardware, especially with such a lackluster library. It would be a different story if the quality of the library would be higher.

>>323456842
Which is why it is a solid 8/10 and definitely worth playing. Also game offers ton of extra content that is free, something other games could try to copy.

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>>323452147
>240p
>fucking terrible hardware
>more gimmicks instead of games
>library is a joke compared to the DS
>the games it does have are just generic nintendo games that are arguably worse than previous versions of themselves
Don't delude yourself, even nintendo has just about abandoned it

>>323452147
I love my 3DS!

>>323457243
New Yu-Gi-Oh game too, if you're into that (Which I most certainly am, cannot wait).

why does Vita have all that graphical power? How hard is it to render animu?

>>323452147
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
Because it's competition was a fucking PSP model. PSP was successful for 2 reasons, easy to install CFW and MH. Both of these aren't present on the Vita.
DS on the other hand was known as the best handheld library period.

>>323456940
What makes you think it's a joke? Don't tell me you think pokemon is all about beating singleplayer gyms and that's it?

>>323457043
>bloodborne
>infamous ss
>ffxiv
>kill zone
>yearly ea games
>cowadooty
>assassin's creed
Say what you will about any of the games, the multiplats play better on PS4 than Xbone and they sell a ton, leading to PS4 sales. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper by $100. It makes sense

>>323456896
Maybe because some people aren't so blinded by their stupid fanboyism (i.e yours) that they can see the value in the Vita's library? How about you actually play the games, for one, before you go judging the games like the shittiest of reviewers?
>>323457243
>"the Vita isn't getting these Nintendo exclusives."
Minus DQ and maybe MH, you're a real fucking idiot for even making this statement.

>>323457375
The better question is why does the Vita exist?

>>323457043
>>323457020
The PS4's issue is a lack of exclusives, not games. It gets all the multiplats and such.

To you or me, multiplats are irrelevant since I'm playing those on a PC. But for normies that can't into PC, the PS4 is the way to go. It's just like the 360 last generation.

>>323457340
New 3ds isn't far from Vita in power and very few games offer gimmicks. Also one of the best games on DS was with "gimmicks".

>>323457521
A handheld without those games are a handheld not worth owning.

Why would you be dumb enough to buy a handheld that doesn't have games like Pokemon?

>>323457521
>Maybe because some people
>some people

All 3 of you?
This thread has nothing but praise for the 3DS and the Vita is being shit on as usual, just like it deserves to be.

>>323457054
>The main reason why the 3DS succeeded is the absolutely zero weebshit games on it as well.

http://nichegamer.com/2015/06/fire-emblem-fates-has-naughty-dialogue-stripping-and-touching-gameplay/

>>323455264
Of course Pokemon can't save the next Nintendo handheld, they're going mobile this year with Pokemon Go!

>>323457243
A few english releases for this year
God Eater 2
WoFF
ToCS 2
SaGa
Echa & Logy

And a lot of japanese games that you should be importing if you're not an EOP

>>323452834
Ur a meme.

>>323457529
The Vita is unironically an absolutely incredibly handheld in terms of design and power.

Sony is the problem, that console with some actual games would be the best shit ever, fuck.

>>323457696
>Why would you be dumb enough to buy a handheld that doesn't have games like Pokemon?
Because pokemon is a yearly rehash
play through a couple and you've experienced everything the series has to offer

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What I like about the vita is that some developers are really trying to unlock it's full potential. VD:B runs soo well and looks amazing, but it is time spent literally collecting panties so I can see why people would be upset. I won't complain, it's my game of the year.

On the other hand I felt like some developers (Game Freak) kinda shat on the 3ds and never even bothered to try and make the games run well or look good. Other than first party games and SE games most 3ds games are lack luster.

Some people will say game play > fps, but if the game runs like shit, I don't see how anyone can enjoy it. Also Stella Glow was amazing and no one cared because it wasn't mario. 3ds community is fucking dead or had terrible taste.

>>323457754
Nobody cares about weebshit on a handheld.

This is why everyone hates the Vita, name some nonweebshit games on the Vita, oh right you can't!

>>323457660
>but muh vita
How does that somehow make it better? It's a terrible system regardless

>>323457521
PsP was shit and people liked it only because of piracy options. And it had Monster Hunter and MGS games on it. Vita can't pirate and has no MH or MGS, literally no reason to own it. I am surprised people expected it to be good when PsP was meh and it had way more support.

>>323457785
I own a Vita and I completely disagree.
Its design is hand cramp inducing and the screen is literally worse than my sisters phones.

>>323454446
Also you forgot Ace Attorney 6

>>323457861
You're projecting.
Also you're refusing to listen to the games presented to you because you assume they're weebshit, when nintendo are objectively just as "weeb". Perhaps you're just insecure?

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>>323457947
>mfw I used my PSP for nothing but emulating old SNES/GBC/GBA games
>mfw I loved it

>>323453792
Yo-Kai Watch franchise sales have outsold all Vita software sales.

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>>323457947
>No reason to own a vita

>>323457034
Name one console that enjoyed the majority of its success during its launch period.

>>323458049
You should have gotten a 1000 instead of a 2000

>>323458049
Do you have one of the new shitty models with the shit screens? The launch OLED model's screen is absolutely gorgeous, damn new better colours tan my Dell IPS screen.

seriously though haven't phones caught up with handhelds in terms of power? They just need reliable and easy controller support

>>323458067
Nah, enjoy defending your dead handheld with no games while I enjoy the 3DS with the greatest handheld library of all time.

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>>323456017
>ratio greater than 2:1
>you
>math
Heh...

It isn't even close to 2:1 if you actually do the math, which is basic shit, total sales / years in the market.
Guess who the dropout is.

>>323458196
>>323458221
I have a 1000. Got it a year after launch.

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>>323458148
PS4.

>>323457858
EDF runs nice aside from when you use large explosives or flamethrowers, with the same absolute batshit scale as the other games

>>323458240
Excellent argument, thank you for the intelligible insight into the average nintendo fan.

>>323457858
>shitty version of fft+fe with facebook game tier character design
Just google Hello Hero. How the fuck are the character models so fucking trash in stella glow?

>>323455442
no its because of the name just compare the sells of the gameboy and the gba this has happened before

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>>323458114
There is also a new vita game every week in japan. It's crazy over saturated, every game catering to a different niche, not to the general pop. You will almost never see vita game commercials.

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>At this year’s Jump Festa, Konami revealed that they’re currently developing three new Yu-Gi-Oh! games, with 3DS, smartphone, and PC each getting a piece of the action.

Who here hype?

>>323458148
Sega Dreamcast

>>323458118
oh boy, generic ecchi game #293420938402398409328490238q45093247509327509237509327409283q408230942830q48230985094328w4039284902376509184092849038q09482390489320 !!!

>>323457457
>implying there's anything more to pokemon than that

you're just kidding around anon

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>>323458228
Phones are a risky business (pic related). Also Capcom fucked up with invested in it.

>>323457696
Because the Vita has more to offer than shitty rehashes? In a world where AS and OR exist, your argument is nulled.
>>323457735
Because this thread is filled with a large amount of shits like you. As someone who can actually appreciate video games, the Vita offers some fun games and some memorable experiences.
>>323457861
>Vita isn't getting any games
>games are presented to him
>"but not these 'weab' games"
>weab
>in a discussion about Japanese consoles

>>323458517
>3DS, smartphone, and PC
My microtransaction senses are tingling

>>323458118
That looks like a good reason to not own a vita to me

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>the 3DS has a shit library
>YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE THE VITA
company warriors are truly the most retarded people

>>323454921
Fantasy Life

Its not a fantastic game but still fun

>>323455264
you mean a spin off?

>>323458517
>smartphone version will probably have weekly tournaments and constant updates
Why even go for the 3DS version? It's P&D all over again.

>>323458531
Anon are you okay

>>323458310
Are you sure you know what a good screen actually looks like?

Contrast and colour replication wise it looks as good as my Galaxy Note 4 which has a top of the line screen, obviously in terms of resolution it's not as good.

>>323454453
different generations you would be better off comparing it to the vita

>>323458593
I don't mean turn the phone into some Frankenstein monster

>>323452147
>Why was the 3DS such a success
>sell 60% as many units as predecessor
>success

>>323458769
no.

>>323452147
Yes.
There are three tiers I consider for handheld success:
1a)Emulation success - Strong library, CFW/pirating possible. Strong emulation (PSP)
1b)Pirate success - Has a strong library and is easy to pirate games. The sales go through the roof. (DS, DSLite, DSi, 3DS, PSP)
2)Strong library - Has a strong library with a few good hit titles enough to easily encompass the cost of the system (3DS, DS, GBA, GB, GBC, PSP)
3)Decent library - Has a decent library, few good hit titles but not enough "Must play"s (Vita)
4)Shit library - Flop, doesn't matter how good the 'system' is

I confess I haven't closely followed the Vita but everything I've seen so far hints at it not being huge in this regard, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

BackwardsCompatbility is also huge here and is largely why the 3DS seems so good, it has a lot of good titles on it's own, but DS has a 6,000+ game library.

>>323458682
The only people who hate the 3DS are delusional console warrior Vitafags.

Everyone else loves the 3DS and thinks it's the greatest especially if they love games.

>>323458682
3ds had a pretty great library

1st party was 50/50 though, nintendo really fucked up with making all mario games generic as fuck this gen but the rest of their titles and a lot of 3rd party titles for the 3ds were fantastic

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Would any of these games be a mistake to buy? I'm not getting them all now, but these are the games I'm considering getting next in whatever order I feel like at the time.

>>323458824
What would you do? And how many games you expect it to have with only touch controls?

>>323456823
I hope you downgraded your 3ds for all these games for free

>>323458803
>>323458196
>>323458221

>Some anon says he doesn't like his vita
>You didn't get the right version!
>No wait, you just don't know what a good looking screen is

Are vitafags always this obnoxious?

>>323458918
Nah those are all amazing games that can only be found on the 3DS.

I spent over 100-200 on each of them alone due to how much gameplay there is in each game.

>>323458854
>this is what nintendo fans have convinced themselves to believe
This is actually kid of sad

>>323458228
The reason I don't like playing phone games too much is because of how much shit I alreay do on my phone, and no matter who has the "best" battery life on their phone, playing games, while doing all the other shit you typically do on phone (text, browse web stuff, stream) murders battery life especially when you're on the go and using 3G or LTE. So in the end I'd be perfectly fine carrying around a dedicated system than kill my phones battery. yes handhelds in public

>>323458228
They've overtaken a long time ago. Phones of the comparable price to handhelds today have at least a 720p IPS 5" screen with a chipset based around 4-8 cores at somewhere around 2 GHz coupled with 2 gigs of RAM.

They have the power, but they've only recently caught attention of major developers so the library is shit and, as you said, controls are limiting.

>>323458854
Get a bigger victim complex, that sure will make you sound rational.
>>323458869
>3ds had a pretty great library
certainly not compared to the DS.

>>323458517
>3DS
>smartphone
>PC

frankly I'd rather have it on the vita. You know, fucking TAG FORCE SPECIAL. Fuck you konami.

>>323458850
Also note that you can play GBA titles semi-natively with homebrew and VC injection on the 3DS, in addition to natively playing DS games and being able to use DS flashcarts.

>>323454230
You should have been there to see it because the only people saying "O.o" are time travelers from 2007

>>323458918
Dream Team. There's a new Mario and Luigi game that just came out which mixes with the Paper Mario.

>>323458918
I wouldn't recommend awakening since fates is coming out soon

>>323458918
link between worlds is shit

>>323458990
did you miss the part about controller support?

the purpose of dedicated handhelds has gone away

>>323458497
Games like your pic are just kusoge though. It's oversaturated because devs know that Vita owners have no taste and will buy just about anything with titties.

>>323458517
I stopped caring about Yu gi Oh after GX so no hype for me.Good for you guys I guess.

>>323459056
3DS has far more amazing games compared to the DS.

The DS's library is pretty shit and very limited compared to the humongous amounts of great 3DS games in comparison.

>>323459056
I didn't say it was better than the DS, but it still has a great library relative to most video game consoles. The only way you can deny that is if you've never owned one or hate videogames.

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>>323458829
60 million units sold is not a success

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>>323458685
I'd be all over Fantasy Life is Animal Crossing wasn't holding the 400 hours of my life hostage and threatening to make it all worth nothing if I don't play it constantly.

I just don't have the time for a new comfy simulation game, especially one that doesn't constantly pressure me for attention.

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>>323459016
I was just asking if he got the version that's notoriously less comfortable than the other one
What's your problem

>>323458918


Don't listen to this idiot >>323459103
. As an actual Zelda fan, A Link between worlds is fantastic. Easily one of the better Zelda games we've had in a long times.

Read some of the reviews instead of asking bias assblasted vita fans.

>>323459085
Dream Team is good, long af, and tutorials are shoved in, but minus tutorials, best M&L imo.

>>323459118
>controller support
For select games. Even games you'd expect to have it like DQ8 doesn't.

>>323459118
Nobody wants to play a game on a phone with gamepad. It would fail for sure.

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>>323459228
>3DS has far more amazing games compared to the DS.
Wow.

>>323459103
Why? You can call anything shit but if you don't provide an opinion on why it's shit then you might as well not post at all.

>>323458803
Yes, I'm quite sure I know what a good screen is. The hype surrounding the Vita screen certainly doesn't live up to how it looks in person.

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>>323459228
>3DS has far more amazing games compared to the DS.

>>323459118
no gets controllers for phones you dingus

>>323459085
>>323459086
But the games are good, yeah? Paper Jam and Fates are coming out, but that doesn't mean I can't still play and enjoy previous games in the series. They aren't multiplayer shooters.

>>323459302
I'm taking everything here with a grain of salt, don't worry.

>>323454687
I love my PSP but you're listing some weak games and ports as your agurment

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>>323458918
Only dream team is good. Any game with Link is bad because hes a huge fucking faggot.
>buying mario games
Fire Emblem is either good or bad depending on how much of a smartass you are. In my case I'm a dumbass so it's hard on my brain.

>>323453792
Vita's dead

>>323458531
Be careful with all that salt anon, you're ruining what little fresh water we have left.

>>323459320
nobody wants to play the same games on a bigger, higher res screen with a better control mechanic?

>>323458918
SM3DL is kind of shitty for a Mario game, I'd probably just pirate it at this point. Also don't buy Sticker Star if you were considering it.

The rest are fantastic Nintendo games though, I bought all of those besides Dream Team.

>>323453107
>its bigger than pokemon in japan
Then where is the fanart? What there is is really not that much and Yo-Kai Watch has been a thing for years.

Even Pokémon had more when it finally became big in Japan.

>>323459513
awakening is good if you're a beginner to the genre otherwise I would get the nohr version of fates

Did you mean to say DS OP? Cause I agree with that.
The 3DS is nice, and I really like how Pokemon looks now (Even if the games this gen have been pretty shit outside of that) but it doesn't come near how great the DS was.

>>323459492
He's right though. The DS had very limited hardware.

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>2016
>handhelds still don't come with some sort of video output function built in so you can just hook it up to your TV through mini-HDMI and play from your couch or something

I mean, how often do you guys actually play your 3DS on the go? I'd rather just play it on the big screen. This should've been a standard option from the get-go. No gameboy player bullshit either.

>>323459154
Or, you know, they could be fun? Senran Kagura games are still being made for both the Vita/PS4 and 3DS, and it originally began with Burst, which came out on the Vita. Why was it made? Because, "What do people want to see on a 3D screen? Tits."

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>>323458297
Maybe I should have said currently selling at a ratio of greater than 2:1? It's no secret that 3DS sales have almost completely flatlined, but were very strong for a while.

>>323459695
The 3DS doesn't really have much better hardware, and better hardware doesn't mean better games in the first place

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My game is the reason to own a 3ds

>>323459513
>I'm taking everything here with a grain of salt, don't worry.

Alright.

Oh and I forgot to mention.
Luigi's Mansion 2 is okay. I didn't like it as much as the original, and even ended up dropping it at the last Mansion, but it was still fairly enjoyable.

The lack of portrait ghosts made it not as great for me though.

The rest look good though.

>>323459228
I don't know about that. DS has some good Ace Attorney games, better Pokemon games, MUCH better Mario&Luigi rpgs, The World Ends with You, Ghost Trick, awesome Mario Kart, 999, Advance Wars etc. It doesn't have Monster Hunter and Zeldas on it are meh IMO (I really like Spirit Tracks though). Also Fire Emblems on it are shit. 3ds has better Zelda game IMO, MH, better FE games and that's it. I don't think it will ever have games like first Ace Attorney or Ghost Trick.

>>323459727
>hey dawg we hooked you up with a handheld to TV cable so you can play games on the go while on the couch

>>323459728
Weeb games are only weeb panty shit if on a sony console bro. Otherwise it's 9/10 because only ocarina of time is 10/10.

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>>323459727
>240p games on a 20inch screen
Do you know how garbage that would look

>>323459695
So does the 3DS. Insultingly limited even.

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>>323459727
>240p on a 52" television
Oh god no, please. 3DS is comfy because I can play it in bed.

>>323459618
Yes, on console and TV. Not a phone.

>>323456926
>No one will buy a console if they have nothing to play on it
What is ps3 and ps4?
Compare it to pc which has all the games but is seen as a facebook machine by normalfags.

>>323459727
>I mean, how often do you guys actually play your 3DS on the go?

That's literally the only time I ever use my 3DS or my Vita

I play actual video games when I'm at home.

>>323459872
>his TV is 20 inches

I'm so sorry, perhaps you can jump a border soon

>>323459728
>Senran Kagura games are still being made for both the Vita/PS4 and 3DS, and it originally began with Burst, which came out on the Vita.

Burst is 3DS exclusive. The fuck are you talking about?

It has games. Something most new systems can't into.

>>323459727
>240-480p MAX converted to a large screen

NO THANK YOU.

I believe you could do this in CFW on PSP though.

>>323452916
>comfortable to hold

dude I have the smallest hands and that shit is super awkward to play on

>>323458918
Weegee's Mansion 2 is decent but I wouldn't call it great. It's no longer one area - you have 5 different "mansions" to explore, each being different from the other (one's in a mountain resort and covered in ice, for example, where another is set in a factory) but they're all a lot smaller than the mansion of the original game. They try to vary it but the core gameplay doesn't really develop that much so it all starts to feel samey by the end. Still decent though, especially if you like the original game. Apparently there's also a multiplayer mode that mixes things up too, but I never ended up playing that.

>>323460061
give me a handjob then, fuckboy

>>323453107
>its bigger than pokemon in japan
It really isn't. ONE game in the series outsold ORAS, the Pokemon game with the least sales of all time. And remakes ALWAYS have lower sales than the main flagship games of the generation.

>>323459545
>these games
>weak games
You definitely have shit taste

>>323460026
All it has is shovelware and monster hunter, though

>>323460046
>>323459929
>>323459872

Bruhs, you wouldn't need to use it. It'd just be an option.

>>323459628
There are fanarts but it's all just shota-shit.

Or maybe it's because most grown ups play pokemon still while kids play youkai watch.

>>323459970
judging by handheld sales, not on a handheld either

>>323459808
Absolutely, but the difference between the 3DS and DS is enough to give developers more freedom. Believe it or not.

The 3DS also has one huge advantage, the circle pad. It makes even some DS games like the Super Mario 64 port significantly better.

>>323455453
I greatly enjoyed it despite not being a big turn based strategy fan.

dunno, I just knew smt4 was gonna be released on it but almost didn't get it due to being european
better to have only digital than not having at all?

>>323460123
>the Pokemon game with the least sales of all time
That would be gale of darkness at at mere 2 million sales.