Why was the 3DS such a success? Is an amazing library really all that is needed for a handheld to do well?
It is comfortable to hold, has great games and support, cheaper games than home consoles while having good length, decent battery life, backwards compatibility, and finally pokemon/monster hunter which has a good following.
It's really easy to make friends with children at a playground if you have one, they all want those streetpass hits. It's even more easy to lure them in if you have high lvl pokemon to trade away, they just do anything to get them !
i dont know if i would get one exclusively for 3ds games, but the backwards compatibility is nice and since my ds lite broke ages ago, i have been able to play some amazing ds games like The World Ends With You, 999, Chrono Trigger remake, etc
overall i'm very happy with my purchase, i spend a lot of time on it compared to my consoles which are pretty much Souls machines at this point
>A success compared to what?
Compared to everything.
It literally has one of the best libraries in existence.
Every game on it is god tier and redefines the genre in every single way. Anyone who doesn't own a 3DS is missing out on the greatest gaming experience in the past 30 years of gaming which is why it did well. It had a lot of amazing games and it kept releasing them nonstop every week every month.
MonHun is the best handheld franchise of all time. Whichever handheld platform has MonHun wins the race, the end.
I don't even know.
It's really rare to see children these days. They're either playin on their parents cellphone and tablet in Europe>>323452320
. To be honest it boggles my mind how successful it is.
>Hardly a success when 3DS has two years on PS4
Haha, yeah. Give the Xbone two years and it will catch up!
3DS wasn't a success at all!
No one cares about XBONE, stop trying so hard.
3DS isn't an amazing success like you retarded drones are insisting, but it certainly wasn't a failure in these awful times for the industry.
>Rune Factory 4
>redefining the genre
I'll give you RF4, but in no way do any of the RPGs on the 3DS stand out as some of the best of all time. You're either fucking delusional or stupid if you think these rather generic titles are some of the best of the genre.
>has all of these games coming out
>discontinued and no one cares
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
Compared to the DS, it's a failure. It only seems successful because the Vita dropped the ball hard.
>Is an amazing library really all that is needed for a handheld to do well?
The 3DS doesn't have an amazing library, it's decent at best.
I haven't bought a game since ALBW
None really interested me, Azran Legacy and Layton Vs Wright were two, but never got around to getting them
Just too many disappointments from Nintendo
I dont know, it was getting shit on so hard, and everyone expected the Vita to annihilate it, but then Fire Emblem Awakening and Kid Icarus came out, and the hate decreased, and next thing you know its got a fuckton of games and vita is six feet under.
Well, it has only the Wii U and the XBOne to compete with. And the Wii U has fuckall third party support and, compared to the Wii or the GC not even that many great first party titles while the XBOne has... literally nothing, as far as I can tell.
It might not have in terms of sale, but I would argue that it was the much better platform.
>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Trails in the Sky
>Valkyria Chronicles II
Sonyggers on suicide watch. Stay salty bros.
>Compared to the most successful handheld of all time, it's a failure.
>Animal Crossing: New Leaf
>Mario Kart 7
>Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate
>Ocarina of Time 3D
Rate my small 3DS library, what games should I get next?
can we put this shit to rest yet, by nintendo handheld status the 3ds has been selling slower than both the GBA and the DS
Post your face when the 3DS was shilled here to hell and back but you managed to dodge the bullet.
I love how handhelds are underpowered. lazy devs can't fall back on pretty graphics to sell their games. forces everyone to actually make compelling experiences with smaller budgets.
With a library like this, what's not to love? I've spent over 1000 hours on my 3DS.
If it weren't for the 3DS, this gen would have been the worst gen we've ever had.
>You do not compare a system's sales to one of the most successful selling systems of all time
Comparing the 3ds to it's direct predecessor is a bad idea because it makes Nintendo look bad.
Nintendo Soul for life
I still got one for Etrian Odyssey and upcoming Dragon Quest.
Third party is what always draws me to consoles, no idea why people ramble on about how first party means something.
>You do not compare a system's sales to one of the most successful selling systems of all time
I'm comparing the 3DS to its predecessor. The fact that the DS is one of the most successful video game platforms of all time would only be irrelevant if I were to compare the DS to something like the Game.com or the Atari Lynx.
Comparing the PS2 to the PS3 is also a fair comparison. Comparing the PS2 to the Apple/Bandai Pippin is not.
That reminds me. I really want a new mario for 3DS.
I still replay 3D Land here and there. I liked the bite sized levels. That and a new zelda would be cool, but really I should probably finish majora's mask as I haven't ever played it before.
The 3DS is successful, but not as ridiculously successful as the DS.
The DS had extra stuff going for it from the get-go. Like the Wii, it was released at just the right time, before the advent of smart phones. This meant that the DS was the place to go for casual portable games. It had the best of both worlds; casuals loved it and so did regular gamers because of the system's wide variety of games across the spectrum
3DS still has some of that type of casual stuff, but it's not as big a selling point or deciding factor when, by the time it launched, most people had smartphones capable of getting their casual shovelware fix. Basically, it's as successful a handheld could possibly ever hope to be now that we're in the smartphone age.
Also, you have to remember that the 3DS only really started doing decently like a year after launch. Remember that it launched at 250 fucking dollars and basically no games. It didn't start selling like hotcakes until after they slashed the price.
It's hard to not be successful when you don't have much competition, plus Nintendo made it so their handhelds had some interaction with the contemporary home console and that was beyond just cross platform titles.
The PSP was the first actual handheld competitor, but that was when Nintendo was arguably at its prime in that market (it didn't help the DS was much easier to pirate for).
Also a funny thing is like 9/10 people I know who have/had a PSP use it mainly to emulate SNES and GBA games
Don't use the best girl for such shitposting.
3DS's library is so good it singlehandedly beats the shit out of it's predecessors in every single way.
How is it possible that in one gen we got the best handheld in gaming history while the worst handheld in gaming history came out and bombed and died to the 3DS in a year or so?
Mobile games are trashing everything, anon. They aren't only the 3DS' enemy, they're an enemy to us all.
jesus anon I LOVE YOU i'm going to try to get that!
Friendly reminder that anytime a sony friend mentions that the 3DS (Which is beating every current gen console in sales by a massive margin) is selling less than the DS, they always somehow, someway fail to bring up that the Vita is selling a fraction of what the DS/PSP sold.
What's it on? like 10 mil after being out for 4 years?
I laugh every single time.
>3DS's library is so good it singlehandedly beats the shit out of it's predecessors in every single way.
L O L
Exclusives mean something. On this board mostly everyone has a decent PC so if it's a multiplat you get the PC version. The only two reasons you would buy a console are: you couldn't afford anything else or you want to play the console exclusives not on PC. First party games are almost always exclusives, which is why people care about them. This is also what makes Nintendo handhelds so popular. Almost everything released on a Nintendo handheld is exclusive to that handheld.
How does the vita manage to still be better than the 3DS despite selling a mere fraction of the 3DS's sales?
>>fuckload of ps4 games, most jrpg and weeaboo shit
>>owns shit like FPS on a console.
>>Not owning bloodborne, argually the only game worth to have on ps4.
-10/10 get cancer and die.
>such a success
>lowest selling handheld Nintendo has ever made despite FIVE iterations alongside a piss-poor library of games
>Fire Emblem and Majora's Mask
MM is a definite, debating on getting Awakening or just waiting for Fates and seeing how it turns out.
>at least until Pokemon Z comes out.
That's at least when I will be considering it.
That's part of why I like replaying it. It's just done so well that you think it'd be more interestingly used for other titles on the whole. It's definitely got its uses.
3D Land is definitely the best example of it though. ALBW is really subtle though as well, which is worth appreciation.
>is it really GAMES that make a video GAME console sell well?
This must be bait
Better support, Better online, Better software, Not region locked, WAY more 3rd party support,.
The biggest reason however is that the Vita has less "play it safe" games, while those kind of games make up the entire 3DS library
>Still blaming smartphones.
Mobile gaming is PC gaming on the go, it's not portable gaming. Smart phone games are the same as the browser games available on computers 10 years ago. Smartphones and tablets compete with desktops and laptops, not dedicated gaming devices.
The 3DS is doing poorly compared to the DS because people don't give a fuck about 3D displays in games, it doesn't have games people want, and even the games that try to replicate the successes from the DS do poorly because they're half-assed and made poorly.
I feel RF4 is a good introduction to the HM series, and the adventuring keeps the game from being too stale. I can't really say whether or not it's better or worse than it's predecessors, but I had a good time with it, and I look forward to finishing it someday.
It has a shit story.
>Robin has a Plegian symbol on his robe
>everybody ignores it
>Robin held back on stabbing Chrom
When did the game become Persona?
The support for the vita is amazing, it's sad that none of it is from sony. Vita is getting more games next year than the past two years of 3ds games. The vita's library is twice as big as the 3ds and growing. 3ds is stagnant.
There should be less focus on 3D games for the 3DS. Yeah, I get its in the name, but portables shine with 2D. That and 2D games are easier to develop. Just go ahead and compare the library of the DS to the 3DS. DS had so many fucking games in all sorts of genres from all sorts of developers. For the 3DS, there are much fewer. And yeah, you still have your obligatory nintendo franchise titles and stuff like monster hunter, but it simply doesn't have the breadth that the DS had.
Look at the vita for a more extreme example of what happens when you try to go all-out with 3D games on a handheld.
I would just love to see handhelds remain a place for solid 2D games. I want high quality 2D stuff along the lines of Neo Geo and Saturn, not goofy looking 2.5D stuff ala NSMB.
It was the only game in the series that I bought and the only one that I dropped before finishing.
Worse waifus in the series and the game felt boring and lazily done all around.
No wonder the devs gone bankrupt.
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
But it wasn't. It will become Nintendo's worst selling handheld, and what's worse, it's right off the heels of their best selling handheld. They've lost 66% market share in a single generation. 80% if you throw the Wii U into the equation.
4 out of 5 people who bought a Nintendo product last generation did not buy one this generation.
look at the homebrew thread on /vg/
we already have CFW possible up to the latest version (10.3, downgrades to 9.2 for CFW)), but hurry up because 10.4 is coming out soon so you won't be able to update to 10.3 to which the downgrader is optimized for.
All FE games have shit story and many flaws. Awakening also has too many "one trait" characters, Sumia is always clumsy and that's it, invisible guy is invisible etc... But none of those are reason to play FE games. PoE and Fe7 have generic story, I only liked story of FE4 (it can get Twilight-tier) and FE5 (very simple but not bad).
Ok, but you can't sell a console WITHOUT having games for it, that's why the PS3 struggled for years (aside from the insane price point). Consoles can fail because of plenty of reasons, but it can't succeed without a decent library, nor can it fail due to a decent library.
Ps4 has more games than just Bloodborne, especially if you account for normie multiplats.
>they always somehow, someway fail to bring up that the Vita is selling a fraction of what the DS/PSP sold.
So your entire metric for success is that it's beating the Vita? Also poorfag, I've got a gaming PC, Xbone, PS4, WiiU, Vita, and 3DS, that hardly makes me a "sony friend".
>What's it on? like 10 mil after being out for 4 years?
Nearly the same could be said about the WiiU, nintoddler
The issues you bring up are true, but the BIGGEST factor is the fact that people looking for a casual game fix now have smart phones. Want to play tetris or another puzzle game? Before, they would go to a DS and play tetris DS or meteos. Now they just play the tetris app on their smartphone. It's not hard to understand. They no longer need to buy a dedicated device for little pick-up-and-play casual games. Which were a big part of the DS's success.
Because the devs actually have a hardware to work with?
Also less underage players because most of the games are made for teens and up.
>Mfw I have 12 games for my 3DS
>Mfw I thought I had all the best ones
>Mfw this list
Fucking hell, when will this thing stop delivering?
But for a game that gets praised for its characters and occasionally it's story, it certainly offends and a bad story in any game, especially an RPG, will certainly drop it down a letter grade or two.
Why does this thread have so much asshurt Vitafags mad that they wasted their money on the biggest handheld blunder ever that they have to attack the 3DS's amazing library of games?
It's depressing isn't it, people actually wasted money on a dead handheld with no games when they could have bought a 3DS instead.
No one will buy a console if they have nothing to play on it, regardless of hype/marketing.
Example: If the NX releases with no games announced it will not sell, even if Ninty would throw all their money at marketing. This is an objective fact.
the Vita has all the games people want, such as____ and ___:___ ___ and don't forget ____ 2
my favorite series remains _______ however, and I'll make sure to buy it first chance I get
Do you faggots not remember the first year
>literally no games
>overpriced as fuck
>so overpriced they had to actually give people who bought the game before the price drop free games
It's still a success not to be a contrarian faggot, but all that bullshit really fucked them up for having a DS 2.0 tier success, same shit that happened to the Xbone. Also the 3DS has pretty poor 3rd party success compared to the DS, GBA, GBC.
It's amazing looking at this list of games and seeing no japanese or weebshit on the 3DS while when you compared it to the VIta, it's nothing but absolutely weebshit.
The main reason why the 3DS succeeded is the absolutely zero weebshit games on it as well. People hate weeb games on handhelds as they are never good.
Vita isn't getting Dragon quest, Final Fantasy, Etrian Odyssey, Pokemon, Monster Hunter, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Zelda, Metroid and more. This looks like another god tier 2016 for the 3DS just like 2015.
What does the Vita have?
Absolutely JACK SHIT
Because a used DS is 40 bucks and I don't feel like spending more for hardware, especially with such a lackluster library. It would be a different story if the quality of the library would be higher.
>fucking terrible hardware
>more gimmicks instead of games
>library is a joke compared to the DS
>the games it does have are just generic nintendo games that are arguably worse than previous versions of themselves
Don't delude yourself, even nintendo has just about abandoned it
>Why was the 3DS such a success?
Because it's competition was a fucking PSP model. PSP was successful for 2 reasons, easy to install CFW and MH. Both of these aren't present on the Vita.
DS on the other hand was known as the best handheld library period.
>yearly ea games
Say what you will about any of the games, the multiplats play better on PS4 than Xbone and they sell a ton, leading to PS4 sales. Not to mention the PS4 was cheaper by $100. It makes sense
Maybe because some people aren't so blinded by their stupid fanboyism (i.e yours) that they can see the value in the Vita's library? How about you actually play the games, for one, before you go judging the games like the shittiest of reviewers?
>"the Vita isn't getting these Nintendo exclusives."
Minus DQ and maybe MH, you're a real fucking idiot for even making this statement.
The PS4's issue is a lack of exclusives, not games. It gets all the multiplats and such.
To you or me, multiplats are irrelevant since I'm playing those on a PC. But for normies that can't into PC, the PS4 is the way to go. It's just like the 360 last generation.
>The main reason why the 3DS succeeded is the absolutely zero weebshit games on it as well.
The Vita is unironically an absolutely incredibly handheld in terms of design and power.
Sony is the problem, that console with some actual games would be the best shit ever, fuck.
>Why would you be dumb enough to buy a handheld that doesn't have games like Pokemon?
Because pokemon is a yearly rehash
play through a couple and you've experienced everything the series has to offer
What I like about the vita is that some developers are really trying to unlock it's full potential. VD:B runs soo well and looks amazing, but it is time spent literally collecting panties so I can see why people would be upset. I won't complain, it's my game of the year.
On the other hand I felt like some developers (Game Freak) kinda shat on the 3ds and never even bothered to try and make the games run well or look good. Other than first party games and SE games most 3ds games are lack luster.
Some people will say game play > fps, but if the game runs like shit, I don't see how anyone can enjoy it. Also Stella Glow was amazing and no one cared because it wasn't mario. 3ds community is fucking dead or had terrible taste.
PsP was shit and people liked it only because of piracy options. And it had Monster Hunter and MGS games on it. Vita can't pirate and has no MH or MGS, literally no reason to own it. I am surprised people expected it to be good when PsP was meh and it had way more support.
Also you're refusing to listen to the games presented to you because you assume they're weebshit, when nintendo are objectively just as "weeb". Perhaps you're just insecure?
>mfw I used my PSP for nothing but emulating old SNES/GBC/GBA games
>mfw I loved it
>ratio greater than 2:1
It isn't even close to 2:1 if you actually do the math, which is basic shit, total sales / years in the market.
Guess who the dropout is.
There is also a new vita game every week in japan. It's crazy over saturated, every game catering to a different niche, not to the general pop. You will almost never see vita game commercials.
>At this year’s Jump Festa, Konami revealed that they’re currently developing three new Yu-Gi-Oh! games, with 3DS, smartphone, and PC each getting a piece of the action.
Who here hype?
Phones are a risky business (pic related). Also Capcom fucked up with invested in it.
Because the Vita has more to offer than shitty rehashes? In a world where AS and OR exist, your argument is nulled.
Because this thread is filled with a large amount of shits like you. As someone who can actually appreciate video games, the Vita offers some fun games and some memorable experiences.
>Vita isn't getting any games
>games are presented to him
>"but not these 'weab' games"
>in a discussion about Japanese consoles
>the 3DS has a shit library
>YOU'RE JUST MAD BECAUSE THE VITA
company warriors are truly the most retarded people
Are you sure you know what a good screen actually looks like?
Contrast and colour replication wise it looks as good as my Galaxy Note 4 which has a top of the line screen, obviously in terms of resolution it's not as good.
There are three tiers I consider for handheld success:
1a)Emulation success - Strong library, CFW/pirating possible. Strong emulation (PSP)
1b)Pirate success - Has a strong library and is easy to pirate games. The sales go through the roof. (DS, DSLite, DSi, 3DS, PSP)
2)Strong library - Has a strong library with a few good hit titles enough to easily encompass the cost of the system (3DS, DS, GBA, GB, GBC, PSP)
3)Decent library - Has a decent library, few good hit titles but not enough "Must play"s (Vita)
4)Shit library - Flop, doesn't matter how good the 'system' is
I confess I haven't closely followed the Vita but everything I've seen so far hints at it not being huge in this regard, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
BackwardsCompatbility is also huge here and is largely why the 3DS seems so good, it has a lot of good titles on it's own, but DS has a 6,000+ game library.
3ds had a pretty great library
1st party was 50/50 though, nintendo really fucked up with making all mario games generic as fuck this gen but the rest of their titles and a lot of 3rd party titles for the 3ds were fantastic
Would any of these games be a mistake to buy? I'm not getting them all now, but these are the games I'm considering getting next in whatever order I feel like at the time.
>Some anon says he doesn't like his vita
>You didn't get the right version!
>No wait, you just don't know what a good looking screen is
Are vitafags always this obnoxious?
The reason I don't like playing phone games too much is because of how much shit I alreay do on my phone, and no matter who has the "best" battery life on their phone, playing games, while doing all the other shit you typically do on phone (text, browse web stuff, stream) murders battery life especially when you're on the go and using 3G or LTE. So in the end I'd be perfectly fine carrying around a dedicated system than kill my phones battery.
yes handhelds in public
They've overtaken a long time ago. Phones of the comparable price to handhelds today have at least a 720p IPS 5" screen with a chipset based around 4-8 cores at somewhere around 2 GHz coupled with 2 gigs of RAM.
They have the power, but they've only recently caught attention of major developers so the library is shit and, as you said, controls are limiting.
I didn't say it was better than the DS, but it still has a great library relative to most video game consoles. The only way you can deny that is if you've never owned one or hate videogames.
60 million units sold is not a success
I'd be all over Fantasy Life is Animal Crossing wasn't holding the 400 hours of my life hostage and threatening to make it all worth nothing if I don't play it constantly.
I just don't have the time for a new comfy simulation game, especially one that doesn't constantly pressure me for attention.
I was just asking if he got the version that's notoriously less comfortable than the other one
What's your problem
Don't listen to this idiot >>323459103
. As an actual Zelda fan, A Link between worlds is fantastic. Easily one of the better Zelda games we've had in a long times.
Read some of the reviews instead of asking bias assblasted vita fans.
>3DS has far more amazing games compared to the DS.
>3DS has far more amazing games compared to the DS.
But the games are good, yeah? Paper Jam and Fates are coming out, but that doesn't mean I can't still play and enjoy previous games in the series. They aren't multiplayer shooters.
I'm taking everything here with a grain of salt, don't worry.
Only dream team is good. Any game with Link is bad because hes a huge fucking faggot.
>buying mario games
Fire Emblem is either good or bad depending on how much of a smartass you are. In my case I'm a dumbass so it's hard on my brain.
SM3DL is kind of shitty for a Mario game, I'd probably just pirate it at this point. Also don't buy Sticker Star if you were considering it.
The rest are fantastic Nintendo games though, I bought all of those besides Dream Team.
>its bigger than pokemon in japan
Then where is the fanart? What there is is really not that much and Yo-Kai Watch has been a thing for years.
Even Pokémon had more when it finally became big in Japan.
Did you mean to say DS OP? Cause I agree with that.
The 3DS is nice, and I really like how Pokemon looks now (Even if the games this gen have been pretty shit outside of that) but it doesn't come near how great the DS was.
>handhelds still don't come with some sort of video output function built in so you can just hook it up to your TV through mini-HDMI and play from your couch or something
I mean, how often do you guys actually play your 3DS on the go? I'd rather just play it on the big screen. This should've been a standard option from the get-go. No gameboy player bullshit either.
Or, you know, they could be fun? Senran Kagura games are still being made for both the Vita/PS4 and 3DS, and it originally began with Burst, which came out on the Vita. Why was it made? Because, "What do people want to see on a 3D screen? Tits."
Maybe I should have said currently selling at a ratio of greater than 2:1? It's no secret that 3DS sales have almost completely flatlined, but were very strong for a while.
>I'm taking everything here with a grain of salt, don't worry.
Oh and I forgot to mention.
Luigi's Mansion 2 is okay. I didn't like it as much as the original, and even ended up dropping it at the last Mansion, but it was still fairly enjoyable.
The lack of portrait ghosts made it not as great for me though.
The rest look good though.
I don't know about that. DS has some good Ace Attorney games, better Pokemon games, MUCH better Mario&Luigi rpgs, The World Ends with You, Ghost Trick, awesome Mario Kart, 999, Advance Wars etc. It doesn't have Monster Hunter and Zeldas on it are meh IMO (I really like Spirit Tracks though). Also Fire Emblems on it are shit. 3ds has better Zelda game IMO, MH, better FE games and that's it. I don't think it will ever have games like first Ace Attorney or Ghost Trick.
>240p games on a 20inch screen
Do you know how garbage that would look
>240p on a 52" television
Oh god no, please. 3DS is comfy because I can play it in bed.
>Senran Kagura games are still being made for both the Vita/PS4 and 3DS, and it originally began with Burst, which came out on the Vita.
Burst is 3DS exclusive. The fuck are you talking about?
Weegee's Mansion 2 is decent but I wouldn't call it great. It's no longer one area - you have 5 different "mansions" to explore, each being different from the other (one's in a mountain resort and covered in ice, for example, where another is set in a factory) but they're all a lot smaller than the mansion of the original game. They try to vary it but the core gameplay doesn't really develop that much so it all starts to feel samey by the end. Still decent though, especially if you like the original game. Apparently there's also a multiplayer mode that mixes things up too, but I never ended up playing that.
>its bigger than pokemon in japan
It really isn't. ONE game in the series outsold ORAS, the Pokemon game with the least sales of all time. And remakes ALWAYS have lower sales than the main flagship games of the generation.
Absolutely, but the difference between the 3DS and DS is enough to give developers more freedom. Believe it or not.
The 3DS also has one huge advantage, the circle pad. It makes even some DS games like the Super Mario 64 port significantly better.
In these terms it is unfair to the 3DS then because it is an older piece of hardware than the PS4, which makes it pretty normal having less sales now per day/week/year than in total.
I think his point is that 20 inches is the MINIMUM and it would look trash even on that.
I don't even want to CONSIDER 240p on 55"
>Add it in
>People complain it's so low
>Waste money and now the device costs more per unit because of a useless hardware future
I'm just going to pretend you have no idea what you're talking about here.
That's because ORAS is fucking awful.
X and Y however, despite having no post game what so ever, was amazing. I don't give a fuck what anybody says, X and Y got me back into pokemon after taking a long break.
It's not good
I liked it but there's huge faults with it
Games that have a better port of a different platform:
FF Tactics if youre running on UMD
Trails in the Sky
It's not so unfair when you consider the fact that Nintendo likes to release a new 3DS model nearly every year.
3DS sales are also likely down due to mobile gaming becoming more and more prominent, as well as mobile games are starting to become less shitty, thus eliminating the need for a dedicated handheld for many people.
Don't be silly, of course that's all you fuckin need. It's a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. A good collection of videogames to play on it SHOULD be what makes every system successful, not memes or how many other people have it.
Who been playing Jap games with a freshly hacked 3ds here
Dragon Quest Monsters 3ds remake is pretty fun, the moon is elementary level as well so it's easily readable if you've been studying for a few months
I played like 500 hours of Y and it wasn't until months after playing that I realized I didn't like it as much as other Pokemon games. The problem to me was that the game just felt bland and uninspired and it's not hard to see that it was rushed. I still enjoyed playing it obviously, but after Gen V (with B/W being my favorite games in the series), it was just too underwhelming.
>mobile gaming becoming more and more prominent
seriously, I want proof of this
last I saw everyone just plays angry birds still, there aren't any new games that have come out and taken the market by storm, so there's no way that it's becoming "more and more prominent".
X/Y were the exact opposite for me. I've played the shit out of every pokemon generation. Even went out and bought a 3DS just to play X/Y.
...and the game could barely keep my focus. I don't think I ever played it for more than 10-15 minutes at a time. And everything was so fucking dull. I've had it since around release and I don't think I've even gotten to the 2nd gym leader. And every time I try to pick it up, I just can't. I don't know what's wrong.
Haven't tried ORAS yet though.
Too bad success doesnt make it a good system. Shit hardware, unacceptable battery life, cpp, and nogames except for nintendrone title #479 and ds series continuations. Vita got all the worthwhile games. If you like ds genres like dungeon crawling and vns you have to get a vita too.
It's not, really. You've selectively convinced yourself of it at first glance despite not actually knowing the games in question. In reality the N3DS lineup is no different, but a different kind of shit. In the same way it's all the same generic nintendo shit, shovelware, and weebshit.
One being less "socially acceptable" than the other doesn't make a difference.
Why? It had some of the best designs in the series, the best story/characters (gym leaders that actually participate in the plot!), and a good region with lots of side dungeons. Even BW1 had tons of post-game with legendary hunting and battling stuff.
>3DS sales are also likely down due to mobile gaming becoming more and more prominent
It's been half a decade. The hand-held gaming apocalypse doesn't look any closer than it was when Steve was around making jokes about software sales.
>the only non-weeb game on the list is fucking Telltale game ports
Seriously dude, I like anime too but there has to be a little variety.
It's been confirmed.
To inform about upcoming releases? Any real research can be done through Google. The list will just supply you with what to search.
Any coming out for 3DS?
See? You clearly don't know any of the games in question. I can't disagree with >>323461736 that the artstyles are overdone, but you have no reference level of the actual gameplay of the games
Candy Crush. There's a reason it cost 1.9 billion dollars more to buy than the entire Star Wars franchise. That game in particular may not be that good, but people and kids do play it, kids always having been one of Nintendo's biggest markets when it comes to their handhelds.
As for games that aren't freemium shit, there are loads of smaller releases as well. that don't take the market by storm, but are good buys as well. I know I'm not alone when I say that I don't feel like I ever need to buy a dedicated handheld device for playing on the go again.
>It's been confirmed.
Oh, I'm not doubting that you'll get it. I'm questioning why you'd want it.
Meh, I haven't enjoyed a Nintendo handheld since GBA. DS was only ok because it had runoff continuation series from the GBA like FFtactics, megaman Zero type stuff and some pokemon stuff that always helps. 3DS though, its been lackluster and you could see the casualization and weebshit pandering in the IP's on it. Most of the titles i looked forward to ended up being ruined by Nintendo's incessant need to force gimmicks or casualization into their products.
>M&L:DT had forced touchscreen/tilting gimmicks
>fire emblem awakening was casualized as fuck
>ssb4 3DS was mediocre, had the worst stage list in series history, and in general is uncomfortable asfuck
>alpha sapphire/omega ruby was casualized into the ground for a already casual game
>paper mario got ruined before release and is now a spinoff series never destined to return to its roots because miyamoto just WONT FUCKING DIE
>Any zelda or mario title on it is heavily casualized
>mobile tier cash shop TRASH every fucking where.
To top it off, it hasn't barely managed to sell half as well as the last handhelds Nintendo has put out and sales have trickled off badly. Nintendo refuses to admit the casuals have left them,it's over Nintendo. Cater to the core audience again or you're done.
All this 3ds butthurt from one image. Lol.
I wouldn't say it's garbage, but I wouldn't call it the best either. It gets a lot of things right, but I absolutely hate how dull they made Unova. Older pokemon games actually had a sense of exploration. In unova, it was just travel along this straight line (or rather, semi-circle) until you get to the E4.
The pokemon designs were good though and I liked the fact that they decided to only include new pokemon. Although I've always had a gripe with the fact that they zoomed in on your pokemon's back sprite to make it looks unnecessarily pixelated. That was annoying.
Dragon Quest VII
Dragon Quest VIII
Dragon Quest XI
Monster Hunter X
Ace Attourney 6
Fire Emblem Fates
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Bros
Final Fantasy Explorers
Langrisser Re:Incarnation Tensei
Yokai Watch II
Yokai Watch III
Zero Escape 3
The Legend of Legacy
One Piece: Super Grand Battle
Etrian Odyssey V
7th Dragon III Code: VFO
Monster Hunter Stories
Shin Megami Tensei
Now look at your list, then look back at mine.
Tell me, which is better? The list rich with franchises that people love (My list) or the list full of literal who IP's with the same generic anime girl.
>Any coming out for 3DS?
Fire Emblem Fates, Bravely Second, SMTIV: Final, Zero Time Dilemma, Monster Hunter: Stories, Final Fantasy Explorers.
I'm sure the Vita is getting more, but I'd rather buy 4 good games than 20 mediocre VNs.
Awakening is literally the hardest FE game in the series, others don't come even close (maybe RD).
ALBW isn't any easier ALTTP or any other that isn't Adventure of Link.
Looks like all this time you concerned yourself with sales too much instead of playing the games.
I feel Unova gave you a sense of adventure on par with Hoenn and Johto, which I would consider to be the best two regions in the series side-by-side (although maybe placing Johto a little higher). Sure, it was linear, but every Pokemon game has a linear progression. There were side dungeons and shit too, which Kalos/Sinnoh/Kanto don't really have many of.
Handheld sales in general are pretty abysmal, with the 3DS possibly never even achieving GBA lifetime sales of 80 million. While there's no apocalypse, there's a clear trend of decline into eventual irrelevance.
See? This is why the Vita is a humongous failure. Japan has never made a good handheld game and never will, everyone hates the Vita because it's entire game library are japanese weeb games. Nobody who likes games thinks weeb games are actually good.
This is why the 3DS is so massively popular, it has zero weeb games on it.
You don't need to know any of the actual gameplay, since it's a fact that it will be shallow bullshit, like every fucking game that uses anime as their image.
I love anime, but that shit needs to stay the fuck out of video games. All it does is attract fucking morons like you who are so blind and incapable of realizing that they're just abusing the fact that you're so desperate to get your weeb-cred that you will buy anything with anime even vaguely mentioned on it. Get fucked newfag weeb.
>Nobody who likes games thinks weeb games are actually goo
Nigga some weeb games are good, but I'm not buying a fucking console if the only thing on it is a bunch of weeb games.
Almost all of those look like shit.
I trust WayForward though so I'd try out Shantae but I'm sure it's coming to 3DS too.
DQ builders looks strong, even if you say it's not minecraft.
>I don't need to know if a game is good, I can just assume it and it will magically come true
Why do you think they're so bad and that it's so cancerous if you have no reference level of them?
It looks like fun? So long as the Titans aren't walking bullseyes, it could be a good game.
Anon, Dragon Quest XI is releasing on the PS4. Zero Escape 3 is releasing on Vita, too.
>lists all anime games
Try a little fucking harder.
>"Japan has never made a good handheld game"
Nintendo wins again.
If this was a Vitafag list, those games would be plastered onto an image to make it seem like it's a bigger list than it actually is.
Not sure if you're shitposting, but you are right. The Vita is pandering too hard to otaku and it's turning people away.
Anime isn't as popular in Japan as weebs really think, but video games are.
Weeb games are all garbage, this is why you dont want a Vita, it's a natural reaction to it's disgusting library full of japanese weebshit.
This is why nobody likes japanese games anymore, they're all garbage.
It really didn't do much for me even on hardest. I shoulda clarified I'm not really a huge fire emblem fan, honestly the series is very casual to me. I was "brought up" on warsong/langrisser...which honestly makes FE look childish.
I do wish there was another advance wars, but clearly Nintendo doesn't care about anything but waifu shit now because the market for JRPG's/strategy games has changed so dramatically...so fuck it.
>You've got to be neck deep in shit to think fire emblem and SMT are still worthwhile franchises
But you get to list Telltale's Minecraft Story Mode on your TOP PS VITA RELEASES OF 2016 chart, lamo.
Not having Advance Wars is unforgivable, perfect games for a handheld with great reputation (first two got many 10/10 reviews in Japan and west) and they kinda forgot about them.
Because they don't put fucking effort into making good games. And before your kneejerk response, the problem isn't necessarily ANIME, it's the kind of people that anime attracts. The kind of people who are perfectly fine with moeshit. The kind of people who think "cute girls doing cute things" is a legitimate reason for it to exist. The kind of people who don't care about good gameplay as long as they get ecchi. Believe it or not, I don't care, but more people who say the vita is all weebshit aren't, in fact, westernfags.
>Sure, it was linear, but every Pokemon game has a linear progression
The older games had "linear progression" in the same way that a game like Metroid Prime has linear progression. Sure, there's an intended route and you have to do A and then B and then C, but it wasn't always literally in a straight line. There were side paths and detours and just enough things to make the way to go not-so-obvious that I actually felt like I was exploring the world.
But with Unova? Go to city A, beat gym leader, travel straight along the only path to city B, beat that gym leader, travel straight along the only path to city C...
It's just the curse of modern Nintendo bruh. It's the same reason we dont have a new 2D metroid or F-zero, if Nintendo's modern developers cant figure out a way to shoehorn a gimmick into it, they leave them "dead".
I forget if it was Iwata or Miyamoto that said "We cant figure out a way to innovate with f-zero so we leave it dead". That's code word for "we cant figure out how to SHOVE waggling/tilt/touch controls into it so FUCK IT IT STAYS DEAD".
That's an extremely biased and uneducated opinion to pull out of your ass. You just said you have no reference level and assumed they're bad by the artstyle,
Not only that you're being a hypocrite for not acknowledging good game because it has ecchi in it.
this can't be fucking happening, the 3ds was supposed to be dead why is sony allowing it to smother the vita with impunity year after year?
>Sonygger bumbles into a 3DS thread
>Posts an image of quote on quote "AMAZING" PS Vita games and "CHALLENGE" 3DS owners to come up with some upcoming games on the 3DS
>I come up with some games on the 3DS that look better than the previously posted PS Vita games
>"I- IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT THE PS VITA WITH YOU! NINTENDRONES ALWAYS START SHIT!"
That's pretty funny, I'll have to screencap that post for future reference of the nintendo fanbase
You sound upset, how about you read my post thoroughly before you overheat?
You're assuming a lot based on artystyles of games you haven't played or seen gameplay of, and jump through mental hoops to convince yourself they must be bad.
Except nobody that owns a Vita started shitting on the 3DS and there's no evidence to prove otherwise.
Are we just all being huge hypocrites now? Are we just going to ignore that the Vita list is filled with third-party games and it's surviving on that alone? Even if you have a bias or inclination for the 3DS, you have to admit it's impressive. Whereas the 3DS is still getting first-party support.
HURRY CALL PEWDIEPIE WE NEED MORE SALES
I honestly prefer the Vita library be a use there are beefier experiences in there in my opinion. Some really good console game stuff too. 3DS offerings didn't interest me much the past few years
>someone claims the 3ds library isn't as good as it's made out to be
>BETTER THAN THE VITA HAHA GET FUCKED WEEBS LOLOL
What the fuck you're even doing it now, I dont get you people
How does being marginally better than other shit make it not shit?
I feel bad for Miyamoto. I think he's set up expectations for himself that we don't have. He's constantly trying to reinvent the wheel on established franchises that just work.
Change is good, but sometimes we just want a regular old sequel yaknow? A new F-Zero that's just an updated version of the old F-Zero would be new enough to warrant making. Or a new Metroid game in the vein of Super Metroid.
Terrible post. It's not often that people have objectively wrong opinions, but this is one of those times.
>Whereas the 3DS is still getting first-party support.
You mean both? 3DS has a rich 3rd party library. See >>323462283 and >>323455131
The Vita is the handheld that suffers from only having support of one.
Not the guy but Vita is filled with small Jap studio third party games and all those games are anime-style. Now 99% of Vita games are like that and nobody wants to own it. Even Sony stopped supporting it.
I agree with you, but it has a huge loyal fanbase.
Just don't even bother to reply to fanbase fags, everyone has their idea of who the bad guy is in their head and are scared of using logical reasoning for it. "H-He said 3DS is bad must be Vitafanboy!!" "He said vita is bad, I bet he's a Nintendo shill!" etc
Combined together with a more than healthy amount of actual shills on the site since 200x (Was it 2007 it started becoming a thing to do?) and people trolling, it's absolutely pointless to talk to those people.
3DS's library is amazing.
Vita's library is so dogshit that it has zero games on it.
What's there to argue about? The 3DS is in the top 3 best gaming library of all time. This is a fact.
It got plenty of games last year, arguably more worthwhile games than the 3ds. 2014 was pretty dry though. This is coming from someone with both consoles
Just because you ignore it and plug your years because you're a diehard console warrior doesn't mean those games don't exist
>Sonygger walks into a 3DS thread
>"TH- THE FUCKIN' 3DS LIBRARY IS SHIT! IT'S SO BAD!! 3DS IS A FAILURE AND IS BEING BTFO BY THE PSVITA!!!"
>Sonygger gets BTFO by a quick list of good upcoming games
>Sonygger can't handle the bants and starts damage controlling, claiming the 3DS users started it yet again
>are amazing videogames really all that is needed for a videogame console to do well?
Unless you get the casual market, like the PS2, the Wii and the phones, or you get the dudebro market, like the 360 or the PS4, yes.
Depends on how you are defining the word "success". It certainly isn't as successful as the DS was in terms of sales. The DS has about 70 million more units sold in its first five years of life compared to the 3DS. Some of that drop could probably be accounted for by the fact we have mobile devices now.
>had a 3ds since launch
>literally didnt play any games for it but ocarina of time but thats a fucking n64 game so that doesnt even count
>finally animal crossing comes out
>i was incredibly disjointed in it
>the only other thing i used it for was swapnote
>jewtendo closes it
i literally have no touched it since, honestly, buyers remorse
>Vitafags are the only ones mad enough to shitpost the 3DS. Everyone else loves the 3DS.
I didn't bother reading the second part of your post,
>Are we just going to ignore that the Vita list is filled with third-party games and it's surviving on that alone?
Surviving in hardware sense, or even software sense in the industry isn't just "We haven't stopped making copies yet", consoles and gaming in general are a very good example of one of the prime examples of failure in capitalism, especially with the stupid amounts of overhead. Unless they're doing GREAT compared to their competitors, they're not surviving in the sense that they are doing okay and making day by day. They are holding on and praying they'll do good enough or put out good enough titles to be worth a shit.
You refer to first party support like it's a fucking government handout, they've built that up themselves, Sony just doesn't care. Stop acting like Sony is good for doing mediocre DESPITE that.
And it's still impressive nonetheless. There's still this rivalry after all these years, even though the Vita has long since been abandoned by Sony.
And yet theres still a rivalry? You fags would've shut the fuck up by now if the Vita library wasn't a threat of sorts. If it's truly dead, then why is it that you all deflect to the same argument without making valid points? The Vita isn't the N-Gauge, people are still talking about it.
But companies are still praising the Vita. Koei Tecmo recently said in an interview that they love the Vita, think it's a suitable platform for their titles, and that they are looking forward to releasing more titles on it.
I own both handhelds.
The Vita is trash, ask me anything tbqh.
3DS easily has the best library this gen (Minus PC, which is king, as always)
It's challenging and trying to master different weapons is fun. I usually get bored with it after 50-60 hours but come back to it 6 months later or so and continue playing with different weapon trying to master it. It's pretty addictive in a MMO way and I can see why it's so popular. Definitely not for everyone and it's not a game I can play more than 3 hours per day.
I was the same until this recent shit. I bought a gateway but my brother updated it past the firmware requirement so until now I haven't been able to do shit. Now I've downloaded all the small cheap-but-too-expensive games like Picross, Tetris, etc. MH looks okay, Mario games look passable but not worth $30-40.
That's photoshop right?
>all eastern games have shitty anime style
You sound very childish there. SONY, company that owns VITA, STOPPED supporting it. Developers hate making games for it, it lost Monster Hunter and has no MGS. It has worse library than PSP and PSP was meh. If you like it, great for you, but that doesn't mean it's not awful. 99% of people in the world think it's crap including SONY.