DARKEST DUNGEON How do I get good? I thought I had a strong

>>323451137
>How do I get good?
you can't, rng shit

>>323451137
I killed him first try with occultist, plague doctor, abomination and bounty hunter.

>>323451705
I kept getting critted so everyone stressed out.

>>323451137
> first boss

Be more specific anon.

>>323451826
It looked like a giant pig.

>>323451137
Just pick whoever you want and try your luck.
There's no strategy, just grind until you win.

>>323451817
Yeah, the game can roll the dice and decide to kick your teeth in. I forget if necromancer has a camping stage, if so, use it to buff your heros against stress damage.

>>323451932
Thats not true right?

One of my characters got too high of a level so he wouldnt even GO on the boss mission.

What's your favorite boss fight?

>>323451137
bumping this as I did the same thing.
Assuming it's the Swine Prince?

What level are you meant to take on bosses?
Can you grind lvl1 short quests forever? I'm guessing shit gets harder as time progresses?
Is there really any reason not to stock up on Vestals?

>>323452468
OP here

>>323452049

my best character got to level 3 and wouldn't even fight the boss, he says the mission is too weak for him

so I have a reason to believe its supposed to be done with level 2s

>>323452587
Pretty much, yeah.
Make sure to upgrade their weapons and amour.

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Anymone else feel like they can't lose a run with Abom?

I just Slap the best damage items i have on him, take psych up and transform for that ebin 74%procent dmg buff and reck shit on the front row.
If i put a BH and a HM with marks in with him im pretty much god.

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>>323452212

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>>323451912
> doing pig prince first
> going to warrens at all

Well, there's your mistake. Don't go to warrens, ever.

>>323453137
what should I do first then

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>>323452212
I don't know, but i can tell you what my least favorite one is

the fucking Brigand Pounder
>can't bleed it
>can't blight it
>can't damge it
>oneshots our party if your luck runs out and miss the backrow guy

I have lost so many good men to that thing

>>323453270
Apprentice necromancer

>>323451912
That's the hardest boss besides the cannon (before you understand how the cannon fight works). That dungeon is also the hardest dungeon just because of all the blight resistance and diseases. My recommendation is avoid the warrens until you have to, bring the highest level adventurers to a given quest there so it's quick and easy (bring level 2s to a level 1 quest, level 4s to a 3 quest, etc). Spend most of your time in the ruins and the weald.

>>323451912
Did you enrage the boss by killing the smaller pig, Wilbur?

>>323453270
Don't listen to the scrub

Swine prince is piss ez when you learn to make the right team for him.

Im not going to spoonfeed you but it's already in the thread how

>>323453571
I did, I didn't think that was a mechanic to be honest.

>>323451137
First boss as in the Apprentice Necromancer?

Dude what are you doing, he can easily be beaten with level 1 party of the first four dudes you get. Crusader, Highwayman, Plague doctor and vessel.

Or did you mean the higher level stuff?

>>323453648

Once you kill wilbur, the boss rips your asshole open. So what you do is you bleed the whit out of the prince until hell die next turn from bleed, then you blow wilbur the fuck away. You can almost see the tears in the prince's eyes as he watches his best friend die and realizes that he can't get revenge because he will die at the beginning of his next turn.

>>323454032
Alright I will try that.

>>323453648
Basically Wilbur marks targets for the boss to that 20 or so damage attack. If he does the boss will obliterate your whole squad.
Just kill the price then kill the defenseless Wilbur

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>>323451137
This game gets compared to Dark Souls alot.

The similarity is that both devs are addicted to 'hard' and get a sadistic 'hard-on' when players suffer from difficulty.

The difference is that while Dark Souls can be surpassed by developing skill, Darkest Dungeon is heavily reliant on RNG. You can be the most skillful player and still get fucked if RNGesus decides it has a bad day because half the game is hoping that good shit happens.

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>>323453348
>go up against the 18 pounder
>Man @ Arms, Highwayman, bounty hunter, Occultist
>MAA bolster, bolster, bolster
>resolve is tested
>motherfucker turns STALWART
>Dodging most attacks left and right
>defeat the cannon
>brigadier brings MAA to deaths door
>kill his ass, all thats left is the fucker that lights the cannon
>his move he pokes the MAA with hotshot
>mfw deathblow
>mfw trying to hold back the tears as my highwayman point blank shots that little shit straight to hell

RIP Curtis. RIP.

Can anyone recommend a basic guide for this? It seems like the sort of game that needs you to know a bunch of shit.

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>>323458113
>Letting any MAA die
You fucking monster. He's been through so much.
I named mine after my pops so if he dies I'm restarting my save.

>>323459121
Bumping for this, I thought I had shit under control but the veteran missions and kicking my shit in.

>>323459121
>>323460035
Always bring some kind of healing. A dedicated healer like vestal with her stun ability is almost always a good choice. Occultist is good as well, but can be inconsistent at the benefit of being able to mark targets and mitigate incoming damage with hexes.
Don't go on veteran/champion missions until your team has upgraded their equipment to the new blacksmith/guild tiers. Grind out a few lower missions first. They really need to extra stats that they get to keep up.
Camp skills are important, with the MaA and Crusader having some of the best (from what I've seen.
Look at all of a party's skills before going into a dungeon and try to have them able to attack from 2-3 positions in case shit hits the fan after camping.
What specific problems were you guys having anyway?

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>ARTERIAL PINCH
>ARTERIAL PINCH
>ARTERIAL PINCH
>ARTERIAL PINCH

>>323461231
This is why you bring a plague doctor

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Here anon. It is a bit outdated af. But it should help you to get some idea for your team.

Hellion
abomination
houndmaster
occultist

this is my team

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What is the hardest boss and why is it this bitch.

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>very rare man-at-arms trinket that gives buffs if in 4th position
>man-at-arms only has 3 skills that can be used in 4th position
>none of them do damage

>>323462402
Naa this Hag bitch is easy af. Just bleed the shit out of her.

>>323462402
>ignore pot
>kill hag easily

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>>323459196
>naming a video game character after your father

>End this one/two deals damage on its own
But why

I'm getting my ass kicked just with this first "complete 100 percent room battles". I managed to make it all the way to a treasure chest just by virtue of my jester reducing stress to stay JUST under 100 and using abomination to just rip and tear but now the jester is on deaths door and I've got the entire other half of the rooms. I know it will stress them the fuck out but if I retreat do I still keep my loot?

>>323463489
Yes, you will keep whatever loot you have.

>>323463489
It is always preferable to retreat if things are looking grim, unless its a suicide run.

>>323463489
you keep what you picked up but you don't get any quest rewards obv

just be careful that you'll have enough gold to run another mission. If you're desperate for gold and you have any trinkets you can sell them for a decent amount

>>323463668
Truly, being able to sell useless trinkets is a gift from god.

>>323464008
I only just discovered you could do so last week lol

holy crap after clearing out most of my inventory I was just rollin in it

>too scared to face other bosses because I don't want to lose my crew

dat stress to death and +20 damage dealt is ridiculous

>>323463664
>>323463615
>>323463668
a large part of why I wanted to retreat was all the gold I've picked up guarantees I have enough for another run. thanks anons

>>323464136
Get more crew.

>you now get a crippling debuff if you hit death's door

the fuck is this shit when did they add this?

what traits do you prioritize locking down?

>>323464516
you mean the debuff at death's door or the one after that lasts until end of quest? The end of quest one is annoying but it's not that crazy

>>323461545
or buy bandages before going in high level coves

>>323464714
This tbqh, the debuff is pretty minor to bother.

>>323464601
Anything that gives HP damage or protection

>>323465048
I would add dodge to that too.

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>>323451319
This game is basically real life simulator, no matter how good you think you are, you may end in the fucking cauldron.

>>323462402
Some of you guys are ok, don't go to the woods tonight.

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>>323465454

>>323452468
Vestals kind of suck compared to the Occultist. His heal while unreliable, tends to heal about double what she does. Plus he marks, he debuffs, he has high crit chance and dodge, as well as having a pull. Compared to the Vestal, who only heals sub par and struggles to hit anything with 20+ dodge, she is way out classed. Not useless, but still not great.

>>323452872
Enjoy it while you can, they're nerfing him on full release, probably by making him do more stress to the party, so that his rare trinket won't negate it entirely.

>>323465901
Maybe before you get both her healing trinkets

>>323452962
That's my favorite too. It's not hard or build specific like the Hag or anything, but his idea and transformations are just really fucking cool.

>>323463016
He's an army vet and keeps tellin me stories. I named all my characters barring reynauld and dismas after people I know. Gives me somethin to be concerned about instead of seein em as disposable.

Is this game timed in anyway?
As in, can I play at my own pace or are there time-related deadlines to meet?
The only thing I didn't like about X-Com were the deadlines.

>>323466407

Play your own pace. It might be different for new game plus.

>>323463489
one other question on the topic of selling trinkets that another anon mentioned. Is there a good way of telling the useless ones from the good ones other than just playing the game and knowing what stats are valuable? It's kind of a silly question but I don't know if I can even get worthwhile trinkets this early on.

>>323466407
No, you're just wandering through the dungeons aimlessly and killing shit.

>>323462527
I guess if you're using 2 Men at arms its worth it? 1 in front another in the back? Besides that I think its useless.

>>323451137
Try this.

http://pastebin.com/EMbPgwbW

>>323465901
> Deaths door
> use Wyrd reconstruction
> 0 heal, still on death's door
> guy on death's door now has a potential bleed
Great healer you got there m8. He can't even heal multiple targets which is pretty damn essential in some fights.

Vestal with chirurgeon charm and elite scroll will heal I believe 6hp at minimum with a 4-5 party heal.

> struggles to hit anything with 20+ dodge
I don't even know why you're bringing up offensive capabilities on a healer class, but the occultist has pretty shit aim as well.

Git fucking gud

>>323466582
Prioritize speed and damage above all since things like debuff resistance and health increase can be taken care of by supply items. Keep one stun increase and one bleed increase to throw on dedicated party members. Early on you'll do well to keep the class specific trinkets because they're usually there to steer your character to a specific build but once you know what you want your party to do, most of the class specific trinkets can be sold

>>323467303
gotcha, also if it says +percent stress damage I'm assuming that means the persson I equip it to will take more stress damage? I have a "very rare" trinket that does that and I can't help but think "is this worth +2 speed and +15% damage" but I don't really konw

OFFICIAL TIER LIST

>USEFUL TIER
EVERYONE EXCEPT JESTER

>COMPLETELY USELESS IDIOT TIER
JESTER

FUCK THIS DIET HOUNDMASTER FUCKFACE
>INB4 MUH CAMPING ABILITIES

NO BRING A GRAVEROBBER INSTEAD

>INB4 MUH SHUFFLING

SHUT UP

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> Beat every first tier boss with 0 deaths
> Takes a ridiculous amount of gold/heirlooms to upgrade them further
> literally none of my guys can enter the lowest tier dungeons to get more loot and they're not equipped properly to handle veteran dungeons
> forced to hire 4 raw recruits, run a few dungeons, then dismiss their ass 3-4 missions later
Fucking hell what a shitty game mechanic.

>>323467163
>Telling me to git gud
>I'm over here rolling in sacrificial crits, making the eldritch my bitch, and having Reynauld healed 40+ trinketless

>>323467596
>hating the jester
You allergic to fun?

>>323467742
You can -literally- change that in about 15 seconds using the games files.

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>party member gets BTFO and gets 100 stress 3 rooms into a long dungeon
>becomes POWERFUL

>>323467563
That sounds like the berserk charm, it's one of the best trinkets in the game. The increase in stress can usually be mitigated since you hit faster and harder, just don't expect to get virtues ever again (Not like it's was very likely to begin with)

>>323467796
So you're proud to have the RNG on your side?

Okay m8. Let's see how lang that lasts.

Seriously I've rolled six or so 0-2 heals in a row. Those shitty heals forced me to retreat from the battle and eventually from the dungeon.

Occultists a shit

>>323467970
gotcha, I don't know if there is any variation in the names of trinkets and their stats but it's the crescendo box

>>323467563
yes, +% stress damage means that hero will take more stress damage. It used to be formatted as +/- stress resist, idk why they changed it

>>323467829
How?

>>323467829
I'll change that then because holy shit this game has enough "stop having fun" game mechanics as it is.

>>323468206
>>323467970
thanks, also I know I'm throwing out endless questions but if you can bear with me for one more here, are all of one type parties like doing 4 fighters etc in ff1 valid? I wanted to get 4 crusaders together and try a run at some point.

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T R I G G E R W A R N I N G

So when tons of my guys have 50+ stress, what's stopping me from entering a long dungeon, just camping 2 times with 4 food and using all the anti stress skills?

Pretty sure that's a fuckton cheaper than the tavern/chapel.

>>323468507
you get stress from retreating

>>323468251
1) Open DarkestDungeon\campaign\quest\quest.json with notepad
2) Find "restriction" line at very bottom
3) Under "resolve_level_threshold_table" there are numbers 2 2 2 4 4 99 99
4) Change 2 and 4 into any number (hero level) that suits you
5) Congratulations! You can use your A team for whatever mission there is.

>>323468253
>>323468251
Go to DarkestDungeon > Quest > open quest.json in notepad

scroll all the way down to this: (not sure how it'll paste)
restriction":
{
"difficulty":
{
"comment": "This table restricts what level heroes can go on what level quest. ROWS are DIFFICULTY, COLs are QUEST LENGTH",
"resolve_level_threshold_table":
[
2,
2,
3,
4,
5,
99,
99

Chance all those 2, 3, 4, 5, to 99. Save. Exit. You're done.

>>323468363
Specifically 4 crusaders party works on paper, they have hp heal, stress heal, front row damage, back row damage, shuffle.
I've tried parties with no healers, it works, but you will probably need to bring maxed out food every time

>>323468162
Why heal at all when the enemy is dead? Best way not to risk shit heals is to not have any heals to begin with. Having an enemy alive is an even riskier rng play, and he is way more effective at killing and setting up kills than the Vestal ever was.

Because of this, I have filler turns to chance heals, while a stunned enemy gets killed by another unit or just bleeds out. Plus, there's food for minimal heals, which became far more common to get mid quest to balance the limitation of the provisions.

>>323468780
neato, thanks

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>go to bed with 2 party members at ~20 stress, 2 with none
>ambushed
>finish fight with all party members 50+ stress, one at 96
at least that one already had their resolve tested but fuck man

>>323468740
>>323468754
Thanks.

>tfw in the final game you will not be able to edit your files
>tfw if you do it invalidates achievements which unlock bonus content
Fuck.

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>>323468993
> finish the necromancer with about ~50 stress on everyone
> still have campfire kit left
> use it all on stress heal skills and one to reduce chance of ambush
> still get ambushed
> crit, crit, stun, crit, crit, crit
> forced to retreat
> mfw having to pay 6k gold to fix all their stress

>>323469101
It makes the game more fun, but I'd suggest you don't go nuts with really high level guys on low level dungeons. I like to bring one high level, maybe two, and weaker guys. Feels more fun.

>>323451137
>How do I get good?
4 houndmaster

>>323468162
>he doesn't have the favor of the dark gods

>>323469150
Are you talking hypothetical or is this an actual thing?

>>323468364

WHY DID THIS HAPPEN

WHAT THE FUCK

>>323468364
> I KNEW IT!
my sides

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>>323469150
>mfw cheating bitches will have to play by the rules

> heals hitting for the minimum amount possible when you actually need them most
> heals crit for 20 when you're healing 2 dmg from a grave nibble
errytime

What's with all these darkest dungeon threads lately?

Is it finally getting released and being shilled or what?

>>323470462
19th

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Hey guys wanna play a game?

>go to review section for DD
>finde the saltiest review you can

I finde it funny that almost all of the thumbs down reviews are form people with less then 30 hours

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>>323471363

> killed all first tier bosses except one in the cove
> pimped A and B team
> 0 guys in the graveyard
Sure is a hard game.

I'm getting kinda bored now grinding for gold and heirlooms to improve stuff though.

>>323471659
Do dark runs if you want it to be harder and get more money. But yeah, Heirlooms are a bit too annoying to get. I think they should lower the amount you need for each upgrade by at least 20%

>>323471817
I already do dark runs. Not for the loot, but because I happened to find a lot of moon rings and other low light items.

I wish the inventory was bigger. I often have to discard loot or start cherry picking whichever is worth the most.

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well I finally cleared my first quest by the skin of my fucking abomination teeth. when he hit 100 stress this nigga stepped the fuck up and started healing himself more. I think I'm hooked now

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>>323471659
Keep going. You'll change your tune.

>>323472597
I already tried veteran dungeons and yes they can be brutal, but my heroes aren't upgraded fully yet.

It's hard to want to keep going when it feels like an eternity before I have enough heirlooms to upgrade my blacksmith.

>>323472431
Makes me wish there was an item or something that gave more inventory slots. Maybe the merchant class will be a piece of shit for fighting, but gives you more inventory slots for maximum greed

>>323471363
>Game requires 30 hours of playtime before you can be good at it
>lol scrubs

Do you know how autistic you sound?

>>323472914
Maybe they should have the Jester give you 2 extra inventory slots.

Then maybe people would actually start considering using him.

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>>323473093

>>323473093
>Going to a forum and complaining about a game you haven't even gotten gut at
>thinking your opinion matters in this scenario
wuh

> all this salt in the steam reviews
Jesus christ I know the RNG can be brutal but you have to be pretty damn shit at this game to only play 10 hours and already give up.

The first dungeons and bosses are easy as shit.

>>323473859
You can beat Novice missions with 4 jesters for God's sake. It isn't that hard

>>323474063
yeah maybe if you've been playing for 4000 hours, some of us have lives, faggot

>>323474468
There's nothing wrong with being shit, no need to act so butthurt.

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>>323471363
>>323473859
>This salty fuck wants a difficulty slider
Holy shit some people

>>323473859
I'd guess it was just people who were RNG'd to death a couple times after the update and assumed everything was awful forever.

I wish this game had better tooltips and explanation of game mechanics in general.

Like for example, dodge and accuracy: are those an arbitrary value or a percentage? What's the basic chance to scout rooms/hallways, the chance to surprise enemies or be ambushed? What do the individual afflictions do? What the fuck do some of these quirks actually do?

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>Do well with first 2 missions
>Original team is too stressed out for anything more
>B-Team barely has synergy, no healer because vestals are faggots about Aboms
>They all die or resolve is tested
>Delete save and restart

This is the second time, am I doing something wrong or do I just suck? It'd be nice if I got a crusader or highwayman, but no, just more jesters and plague doctors.

>>323474829
Plague doctors are the 2nd strongest class behind the abomination. Assuming you use them right.

>>323474829
Upgrade your cart asap for some sweet cannon fodder.

>>323451137
>How do I get good?

By just ignoring stress, it's a placebo mechanic that doesn't do anything other than give your meatbags another trait (which actually might be good). The only really annoying thing with playing with full stress is that your characters never shut the fuck up.

>>323474829
>just more jesters
Easy.
> send jester and 3 stressed as fuck plebs to an easy dungeon
> drag out fights and spam the stress heals

And plague doctors are pretty damn awesome for bossfights where you can only hit the back row. Those plague grenades are fucking nasty.

Remove unclean giants from the game please.

>>323474829
>going without a healer
>ever
stuck up on that shit dude
no matter how you spin it there is always one slot reserved for a healer

>>323475146
Nice meme. Afflictions can fuck your shit up unless you're in a pisseasy short novice mission

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>CONTINUE THE ONSLAUGHT
>DESTROY
>THEM
>ALL

>>323475276
git stun

or git dodge

>>323474791
I've noticed a lot of the "obsessed with X" quirks means that the hero will force an interact with certain curios, meaning you can't use any items on it.

Some are a lot worse than others, the obsessed with money one just means they'll hit packs and crates, which don't have any downside.

>Hound master gets Zoophobia

what he fug

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>>323475415
>tfw I have a vestal obsessed with sainthood
>who's also a nymphomaniac

>>323475146
>ignoring stress

Maybe you should get further into the game before you start posting about stress.

What you say works for short novice dungeons only.

>>323474791
Almost all of that is explained within minutes. The only exception is scout chance and afflictions, which afflictions are self explanatory.

Scouting is base 20% I think, and gets stacked with each quirk, trinket , and character, so a whole crew with ruins explorer is practically guaranteed to map a whole area if sent there, and in turn never be surprised.

>>323475404
Those I figured out quickly.

It's more the ones like "obsessed with sainthood" or "obsessed with self" that I still haven't noticed any effects of.

>>323474992
And how would you use them?
They do okay stun and blight, and battlefield medicine works well with the occultist, but other heros can take out the back line more effectively with just plain damage.

>>323475693
Those might mean they'll fuck off for a week, I had an occultist disappear on a quest for a sacred vision or something.

>>323475708
Plague grenades are overpowered. My problem stems from the fact they can't do shit about front lines.

>>323475684
Alright then tell me, is accuracy and dodge on the stat sheets a percentage boost? If it is why doesn't it indicate it's a percentage, when it does for things like crit chance? And if it's not, how valuable is one point of acc or dodge because with all this RNG I honestly can't tell for sure.

Afflictions are not self explanatory either. I mean, some barely seem to do anything, some seem to skip turns a lot more than others, some will also cause the hero to automatically activate curios, etc.

It would be nice to know which afflictions do what without having to pull up a damn wiki.

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>>323475708
>but other heroes can take out the back line more effectively with just plain damage.
Except they can't. Unless you're counting using literally the entire party to attack the back row instead of just one PD

>>323475708
> stun entire back line
> plague entire back line for 4pts of damage at rank 1
>"they do okay"

Nigga they wipe out the entire back row guaranteed in 2 turns and they have high speed so they almost ALWAYS get to act first.

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>>323475372
>Mortality clarified in a single strike!

>>323461231
Sucks that PD is basically mandatory for the cove. They seriously fucked up there.

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>>323476279
>A SINGULAR STRIKE!

Why is the cove such a piece of shit? I mean the basic enemies seem much tougher than the other dungeons.
> seaward slash for ~8 dmg on the front row
> spear fishing for ~5 from the back row
> still 14 hp
> they often come in packs of 4

And that's just the basic cannonfodder. Then there's all these other faggots with stress wave on steroids and whatnot.

I haven't played this game in nearly a year (played about 20 hours of it when it first came into early access).

How much has changed? Should I jump in now or wait until the "final" 1.0 patch on the 19th?

so wait, am I loosing any un used provisions every time I come back to town? If so fucking WHY and if not WHERE?

>>323475415
>Have a Houndmaster
>Has deviant tastes
He really loves his dog I guess.

>>323477148
They get sold as "loot" for like 5% of the price you originally paid.

Predicting how much stuff you're going to need is very important.

>>323477382
ok at least I know where they go, but that's still kind of retarded. I get the game likes to throw difficulty at you, but nigga the torches aren't going to go bad just let me take those back out with me.

>>323468740
>>323468754
Where can I find more small mods like this, I want to go full jew increasing the stack of heirlooms and gold among other things

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>HOW QUICKLY THE TIDE TURNS

>>323476976

> big guy wastes time protecting people when low on hp
> caster wastes time buffing him

Sometimes life is good.

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>>323476726

>Fan the flames
>Mould the metal
>We are raising an ARMY

> completely obliterate every mob in the ruins
> take maybe 10 damage or so total
> new quirks gained
> [Fear of the undead] [Warrens phobe] [The runs]
What the fuck is this shit

>>323476057
Accuracy is told on the attack sheet. You take that number, minus the enemy dodge, and that's your chance to hit with 90% the maximum. Example: Smite 100 accuracy, minus occult witch with 30 dodge, equals out to 70%. So basically, every point is a percent with certain limits on them to make sure no ones untouchable while making sure everything isn't a guarantee hit.

Afflictions are usually self explanatory cause of what they're called. Paranoia means they don't trust anyone, making them nearly impossible to heal and they won't switch with anyone willingly, which makes it easily one of the worst to get. Fearful is probably the best, it gives a dodge and speed bonus, but your unit is likely going to pass and move all the way to the back. If you right click on a unit when they're afflicted, you can see what they have and a brief description when hovered on it, and you can see what brings what up and down by hovering on the stat chart.

>run into 4 fishmen in the coves
>FOUR
>O
>U
>R
cant click retreat fast enough

>>323478293
>with 90% the maximum
see this is the shit I need to know before I start stacking stats with trinkets

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>>323474676
We're living in the age of casuals my friend

>>323469724
kek'd

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>>323462337

>pep talk
>meh

into the trash.

>no town events or merchant on release
When is it really finished?

>>323451137
>see all these darkest dungeon threads
>get curious so look up game
>steam early access but ps4 version expected soon after pc
>dig deeper
>turn based combat

Lol sage

>>323477117
Wait

>>323477610
Go to the inventory file and replace the text with this.

http://pastebin.com/EMbPgwbW

>>323475298
>no matter how you spin it there is always one slot reserved for a healer
>falling for the healer meme

is it worth upgrading the camping skills?
right now it's all armour and weapons and stress healing places

>>323480381
You cant upgrade camping skills, but you check to make sure you have the good ones

>>323480381
I think it just reduces the cost of unlocking the skills, i wouldn't recommend upgrading it.

>>323451137
are you kidding me, that game is shit easy

prto tip, play in darkness all the time

>>323476137
>Except they can't. Unless you're counting using literally the entire party to attack the back row instead of just one PD

Except they can. Hellion erases pos4 and if she doesnt do all the HP in damage someone with AoE can take out the remaining if there's a sliver left. PD is only useful vs high prot enemies.

>>323479765

it'll never

>>323480381

Going in to reduce costs is actually very useful if you can spare it. I wouldn't worry about the campfire stuff for awhile though, since the upgrades there are all stuff from ruins and they cost a shit pot ton.

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>early into the dungeon
>fight collector
>long fight but managed to keep everyone's hp up with almost no stress
>next room
>4 lowly spiders
>DODGE
>DODGE
>SPIT
>BITE
>BITE
>SPIT
>WELCOME TO BLIGHTVILLE
>DODGE
>DODGE
>SPIT
>CRIT
>BITE
>LOLDEATHBLOW TO VESTAL
>DODGE
>BITE
>SPIT
>DODGE
>BITE
>finish battle with group almost dead
Sure is fun to roll the dice.

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>>323480279
let me guess you take arbalest or anyone else with a self heal and tell yourself it's just RNG holding you back form completing veteran runs

>>323478840
Just cause that's the max, doesn't make accuracy boosts bad. There are some enemies with 40 dodge near the end game that even with stacked accuracy trinkets are nearly impossible to hit.

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>>323479892
Thank you, here is a funny story in return

>>323481213
Yeah, take a turn of your front line to attack the back. Sounds real good.

Requesting tide gif

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> sonorous prophet
> 4 saders with holy lance
Whelp. That was fun.

>>323481741
>take a turn off
>to kill something
U wot m8

>>323481741
A dead enemy is a dead enemy, doesn't matter who does it, unless you're trying to shave off some stress.

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>>323481858

>>323482436
What did he mean by this?

>>323482436

Thanks, anon.

>HOW

>>323482610
QUICKLY

>>323482825
THE

>>323482931
TIDE

c-c-c-c-ombo breaker

>>323482982

Curious is the combo breakers art...

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>>323482436
That's nowhere quick enough.

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>>323481343
>implying I don't make vet my personal sissy cumdump
>implying that self heal heroes or arby is bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1aWnpcboco

>>323481741
>he doesn't alway kill the support enimies first

Health can be restored easly, stress and other fuckery is much harder to undo.

>>323481741
>Implying iron swan isn't the tightest shit

Get fucked fish shaman

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>>323483180
>says i meme
>thinks arb is good
>tries to prove it by posting a video of pre nerf HM

Yea we all know a party of 4 HM could shred bosses and still can
But then again that class is also good

I'm running a Bounty Hunter, Houndmaster, Arbalest and Occultist party and having some success with it.

What are some good party lineups to keep in mind?

>>323469278
Wouldn't it make more sense if you stopped getting levels from low level dungeons?

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>>323478986
>no-depth phone app-tier RNG fest
>calls others casuals for not liking it

oh dear.

So is the official release coming with a patch, or is it just a "we're out of early access" date

>>323485821
That's probably the best line up to have currently, or you can switch out your Arbalest with a Man at Arms. Besides that, the good cop bad cop set up is pretty good.

>>323484429
>try my first boss dungeon
>everyone clean except for my healer with 50 stress
>iron swan a nigger
>miss
>tempt on healer
>pushback on hellion
>tempt on healer again
>crit
>hopeless
So far I have seen 1 vestal, 0 plague doctors, and 0 occultists in the wagon.

What is the furthest you can go in its current state?

>>323487348
Kill three versions of all bosses and wait for the titular dungeon to open up on the 19th.

Plague Doctor is best waifu.

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>>323481615
>mfw this whole story

"I'm very concerned that he said 'mildly.'"

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>>323487771
I'm glad you think so.
>>>/tg/44674884

>>323488469
God /tg/ is so fucking shit nowadays

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>>323488469

>posting the shit edit

>>323486675
Pretty ironic, yes.

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That feel when you embark and realize you forgot to equip trinkets

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>>323490732

This happens to me more often than I care to admit

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>>323490732

hair

>Plague Doctor in my stage coach with Nymphomania and Stress Eater

Hmm

>>323490732
>Finally remember to use trinkets
>Equip them for the wrong area or person.

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>>323491656
Hmm?

>>323490732
I played an old build where trinkets were equipped once and for all until you discharge them manually. Did they change that?

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>>323492426

>>323492426
Yes

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>>323472075

>>323492426
THICK

>>323467806
>>323467596
jester has the bleeds, son

and massive stress heal

>>323468364
>click on webm
>flickers and does nothing

why does this keep happening

>>323465901
Vestal is backline artillery, you fool.
The heals are just a bonus.

>>323469724
Underrated post.
Fuck cheaters.

>>323494595

I wouldn't call her artillery. She's a pure support, with +torch up and stuns to weave in as needed when there's no immediate need to heal. Like she can stun targets that dont have a high resistance (her stun is only 100%) and give torch, or she can remove dodge and lightly nuke.

>>323492426
>tfw she'll never sit her fat, pale ass on your face and show you her experimental vapors

Why even live?

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>>323490732
>forget trinkets and/or preps because i mashed
>alt-f4 during loading screen
>back at hamlet

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Claiming waifu

>>323495030
literally who gives a shit about cheating in a single player game

>>323462402
I fucking hate the hag, normally my team is front heavy with Crusaders, Lepers, and Vestals, against the hag, they don't hardly do shit.

She's easy if you've got the right team comp to use against her, but if you don't have ranged attacks there's no way to bring her down before she murders you. I remember killing her in three turns with an arbalest/hound/hound combo though, got real lucky because she threw my vestal in the pot first so the rest of the team just ate her lunch.

>>323471363

I got like 15hours in before it started to feel like a mobile/micro transaction game.

Mechanics are fun and addicting, but they set you up to lose and repeat stuff with throw away characters. I felt no connection to my men so I started to get bored.

Was a fun time waster and I might play again when the game is all done. I think a deadline like 100 weeks or w/e to complete everything would make it more interesting.

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>>323476276
Plus, EMBOLDENING VAPORS!

>>323496987
>non-canon big titty version
>not the smaller one

>Collector is in the dungeon
Better retreat because fuck that nigger

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>>323477848
>And now, the true test. Hold fast, or expire...

I think my favourite thing about this game is how hard it triggers /v/'s "RNG means player agency and strategy cannot exist" autism. It manages to do it even more than Hearthstone does somehow

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Can someone shoop this to be a rare pepe collection?

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>>323499023
>using old memes

>>323499023
>only has a collection of Vestals, Highwaymen, and Men-at-Arms
What a shitty collector.

>>323498392
I only had one fight with him so far, but if you kill one of his heads each round doesn't he just use collect call over and over again? That's what happened to me.

>>323499023
Really, that attack image can be shooped into lots of dumb shit, as can most things in the game.

>>323495721
Nigga she'd claim you.

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>not using the double arby

>>323496987
link to uncensored?

>>323499392
Sometimes. Other times he uses his stress attack or life steal. Really you want him to spam his stress attack as much as possible so he's not running and healing, and he does almost no stress or damage that way.

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>>323451137
>11 weeks in
>3 Skill upgrades
>2 Weapon upgrades
>3 Armor upgrades
>First Hag down
>Two main teams
>Crusader, HWM, PD, Vestal
>Crusader, BH, BH, Arbalest
How am I doing? Nobody's been killed so far, so that's good, right?

>>323496779
>bring two level 0s to my first hag run
>gets double teamed by dogs and dies easily

>>323499662

And I'd like it!

>>323500361
you're doing real good on armor and weapon upgrades but you might want stage coach

no i'm not suggesting you upgrade recruiting heavily for suicide squads but upping your camp size lets you get multiple teams online which you can mix and match

>>323500873
Should've mentioned this as well, but I also have the first level of both stage coach upgrades.

>>323492825
Sometimes you just forget to reequip them.

Also there's a button on the trinket menu which lets you unequip them all, so if you forgot you clicked it, you don't re-equip your stuff.

>>323500361
Doing fine m8, keep upgrading skills and armor/weapons, and the Hamlet.
>Nobody's been killed so far, so that's good, right?
Very good, but expect that to change sometime. It will hurt too.

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>>323501553
>set heroes up with permanent trinket combinations
>accidentally hit unequip all
>no undo option

>>323501841
Or even something to lock in a specific hero's inventory

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>>323500361
>Arbalest

This game is a speedrunner's nightmare.

>always rolling Graverobber>Highway Man>Crusader>Lepper A team with throwaways
>hear about the Occultist/Bounty Hunter bromance
>flesh it out with a Houndmaster to prey off marks and an Abomination because they're cool

Found my new B-team. Now to build a third with either Hellion or Finale Jester. Also read about a 4 Graverobber shuffle team that plays only in total darkness.

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>>323501917

>He thinks Arbalest is bad

>>323473093
Just listen to yourself.
You're talking about a game in a world where people spend 200 hours playing Monster Hunter before they become competent enough.
DD's learning curve is peanuts compared to most harder games.

>Decide to grind my dudes up for the necromancer apprentice boss
>That missions is beneath my experience

faidhasdnqwjd

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>gambled and lost trinket: spiked collar

>>323502135
Try Occultist- Hellion-Highwayman-Jester, and start every fight with a finale-pbs-iron swan combo.

>>323451912
Just bring an arbalest with flare to remove marks and don't kill wilbur.

>>323471659
>inb4 ghouls

>>323502175
I don't really care for Arbalest for the same reason I don't really care for lepers. Very limited in terms of where they can hit reliably, not as much utility as other classes. At least with the crusader, I have a tank that can heal and stress heal, with those two, if they get shuffled around, they're going to waste time getting in to position.

Compared to the flexible monster that is the Grave Robber, Highwayman, and Hound Master, she's just kind of disappointing. She's not even that tanky.

>>323498994

I get where people are coming from. it's a strawman to say that people's issue is that player agency or strategy can't exist, or isn't a factor - but you can't deny that RNG IS a factor in success. A string of good luck or a string of bad luck can dramatically change the outcome of a single dungeon crawl, and while it should all even out in the end, that does still mean that even the best players are going to get dunked on occasionally.

>>323505216
put her in a mark party and she lights shit up though, especially after her +crit, acc, & dmg for ranged camping skill. She also helps out with some not insignificant healing. Obviously wouldn't have her as the only healer because she can't even heal herself, but it's nice to have more than one character that can do some healing, if only to get someone off death's door.

>>323505216
>Very limited in terms of where they can hit reliably

If hitting 3 rows is unreliable to you you must hate Abom.

>Compared to the flexible monster that is the Grave Robber, Highwayman, and Hound Master, she's just kind of disappointing

She does comparable damage to all of them on short missions (save HM which she outdamages severely), outdamages them on medium+ and completely blows them away with a mark.

How would I mod the roster limits? Can't believe 56 isn't the cap so you can have 4 of each class

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>Jester obtains curious and necromania quirks and I didn't notice
>Checks three graves in a row
>Gets syphilis, black plague, and red plague

Gonna need you to stop fucking the corpses if you want to stay on my squad, Scullard.

If you cancel treatment in the sanitarium do you get your gold back?

>>323468364
>Ferrer rips out a page and witnesses the clerics shota fanfic.

>>323507450
No

>>323462402
Original hag was a joke with 2 Hellions, you could crit kill her in 2 turns with just them if they didn't get potted.

Now you're probably better off houndmaster stacking. Honestly houndmasters are the best class period for boss fights.

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>>323451137

>>323507086
Pretty sure it is in;
\DarkestDungeon\campaign\town\buildings\stage_coach\stage_coach.building.json
File. Open with Notepad. Change the amounts for the Roster size upgrade.

>>323508112
It would be beyond hilarious if some of the drinking quirks negated that attack.

>Ha ha mortal be tempted with my HEY GIVE THAT BACK!

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>>323462402
Witch used to be the baddest around, but now she's nothing.

Compare her to the fucking Prophet and the 16 pounder. Once you build a team that counters her gimmick, it's straightforward. There's nothing you can do to counter the 80% prot and shittons of HP the cannon has.

Hellion MAA Jester Occultist for Swine King

seems good?

>>323509038
give Occultist weakening curse.

Yeah, you're good.

>>323509098

That's the plan. Welp, here I go, hope I don't get bodied.

Anyone else just completely stopped playing when they realised that you can't send high level dudes into lower dungeons ? I can get over the corpses thing, but this ? That's fucking bullshit right there.

No fun allowed.

>>323509261
It is annoying they couldn't even be bothered to put in a mechanic where you could pay some gold to bring a high level in. And have them abuse the lower levels because he thinks he is so much better. Wasted potential.

But you can just easily modify the file with the restrictions so you can take them. They still bitch but you can slot them like normal.

>>323508607
>have Dispomania
>Tempting Goblet actually relieves stress

>>323509261
It's not a mechanic I completely disagree with, but it is a badly implemented one. If level thresholds are a thing, allow us to only level a character when we want.

There's plenty of situations where one guy ends up at level 2 and 99%, everyone else from his group ends at level 3, and you need to level an entirely new group of people just to get the one guy to a compatible level.

And shit like preparing one squad to take out a boss, but accidentally leveling a few of them to the next threshold, meaning they're worthless.

>>323509261
>complaining about corpses
literally why

>>323509261
I don't mind the higher levels can't go into lower dungeons in theory, but in practice, my roster levels up too quickly and I have a hard time doing all the bosses without hiring new guys to level up for them. It's especially a problem at the level 3-4 range since it takes time to get new recruits to that level and it's easy to level them past the limit.

I wish lower level dungeons would scale up slightly for bringing higher level characters. Provide the option without making it a complete cakewalk.

>>323508112
I'm still confused why that fucking skeleton wound up being one of the most dangerous enemies in the game.

>>323509968

Exactly, I didnt kill a single boss yet and now my two best characters are Lv3 and now completely useless to my efforts to try and beat the first tier bosses. What the fuck, it literally punishes you

>>323509968
It also doesn't make sense thematically either. You have them all shit scared about going into dungeons and what not. Begging not to go back. Then you offer them what should be akin to a cakewalk to them and suddenly they are all 'Naw man that is beneath me and would be too easy'.

There is just wasted potential in how it could be implemented and what could be done with it. But then again this is coming from devs that apparently didn't even see the value in setting up abilities whose range is relative to your position.

It will be good when the launch happens so that people can mod in and fix up a lot of the needless bullshit they have implemented. If they lock down the files people will be beyond pissed.

>>323508654
I hear prophet is incredibly easy when you bring an arbalest to counter him. She can clear his rocks fall ability every round so it does nothing. Never done it though so I can't confirm.

>>323510610
the prophet's rocks aren't marks, you can't clear them with Flare.

>>323510610
Fairly sure that doesn't work because it's a different kind of marked. Houndmaster is probably best for prophet due to guard+dodge buff and being able to hit the back reliably.

Houndmaster, Arbalest, Grave Robber and Hellion seems like the perfect mix.

>>323508607
>>323509797
Affects you more if you have that quirk where you can't drink in the town at all

>>323510420
Him. The priestesses. And that fucking Madman.

I like their concepts, but the sheer amount of Stress they can put out versus how much you can actually heal is fucking bullshit.

I added the Vestal having a 50% chance to remove a pittance of Stress when she heals someone for thematic reasons since they want me to put up with that crap. Thank fuck effects are easy as shit to add to this game.

>>323509968
That would be a fine way to do it, make it so promoting a character to level 3 and level 5 require an action in town to make it happen.

Only way to git gud is to edit the game's files and remove as much RNG as you can. Some of it is hardcoded but you can fix the game up pretty nicely.

The game is even more fun without the random bullshit you can't control.

>>323510898
See this sort of stuff would be fun. But I don't think the way their coding works would allow it as it currently stands. I might check around the effects file later though to see if it is possible. I'd love for a mod to properly implement this sort of thing though. Especially with corresponding dialogue.

>Watch out, he's got booze!
>1/4th of the party cowers in fear, 1/4th starts salivating
>4/4ths of the enemies start WTFing

Plus all the other stuff like that you could do.

>You brought a fucking nymphomanic to fight the Siren. What did you expect to happen?

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>>323510907
>focus on offence
>kill enemies quickly, one at a time
>prioritize stress dealing enemies
>finish off with a few heals when there's only one enemy left
I hate to use the term metagame but that is the most effectieve strategy

>>323511319
>details revealed as they're unlocked

>>323458113
I just lost my favorite Occultist to a pack of fucking spiders. Marked his ass one turn and beat the fuck out of him on the next.

By the time his turn came, he was dead to the blight. RIP Dyel

>>323511385
surely one can do some digging and find them

What I like about this game
>Forces you to accept that losses are inevitable
>Every encounter is a threat, you're almost never truly safe
>Great look and sound
>Allows for fairly complex battle strategies
>Risk/Reward gambles are great

What I don't like
>Places arbitrary rules on you to keep the game difficult
>Legitimately unavoidable losses for absolutely no reason, which is more annoying than it is difficult. ("Dismas lost X when gambling", etc.)
>Can be very repetetive and grindy at times

I like it, but there're a lot of things I wish were different.

>>323511106
RNG is still good. But you can make the game much more balanced through edits. Especially little thematic stuff like starting provisions depending on class. Like a shovel if you bring a Grave Robber. Or healing giving a chance to remove some stress. Also just fixing up the bullshit stack limits, especially for things like Heirlooms. Fucking 3 Deeds to a stack my ass.

>>323511319
are you trying to trick me again

>>323511319
>24 of those achievements will be for beating each version of every boss (probably more for the new dungeon)
>14 of those will be for leveling each class to 6

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>>323511684
>level a leper to 6

>>323511343
That is exactly what I do. And it works. But just the fact that they can apply like 15 Stress minimum with a basic attack, some of which can target the whole team, is just bullshit.

>>323511684
I'm pretty sure the devs have stated on the forums that they won't include any boring grind achievements like that, they had something creative in mind.

>>323511794
The achievement should make you feel bad for doing so. Like "You deny him sweet release". Poor Leper had a hard life.

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>>323511343
that's how I play the game. Every other way seems much less effective in comparison.

Some people play with heavy reliance on DoTs and dragging fights along, but that seems so counter intuitive to me.

>>323511979
Fucking wonderful. The game is slowly becoming a boring grind, and they are going to put more thought into making the achievements creative. Which of course translates to you needing to pray for RNG bullshit to get achievements.

Don't get me wrong I really do like this game but the devs just baffle me.

>>323512142
Left far, down one, right far, down one, left far, down one, right far

You'll have 3 rooms left after that

Or down far, right far, down far, left 4, up far, left far, down far, right far, up far, left 1

You'll repeat a few rooms and it'll probably take you longer

>>323512142
You can do that in an unbroken line without backtracking. Go left, down, right 1, down, right, up 1, left 2, up 1, right, up, left. Only miss 1 room and you will hit the 90% before finish.

You got lucky friend.

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>>323512142
There you go, now enjoy your diseases.

>>323509261
>bringing heroes that overpower the dungeon
>fun

The point is to try and have a consistent challenge every run. Level restrictions are one of the only ways the devs do that. If you want to assemble a team of exactly the kinds of classes you want and beat on weaker mobs try the Disgaea series