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>play Dark Crusade campaign
>filled with an uncontrollable urge to cover every inch of the map in buildings
>every level takes 2+ hours
When playing as Chaos it also arouses me.
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>not a+moving at the enemy HQ with your hero as soon as the match begins
>not finishing matches in 2 minutes
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>>323416317
But when you get attacked by an enemy you're already got your base covering the entire map and it's even easier to defend and demolish everything.
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>>323416317

Doesn't work vs Orks, buildings can eventually kill even the Necron Lord, assuming you're playing on Hard which, hilariously enough, only removes any HP boosts/penalties from you and your enemies.
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>not playing the best race

Go eldar or go home
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>>323418060
>playing the ultimate boring race
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>>323418060
>>not playing the best race
But I do play Tau!
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>>323418328
>Tau

if you like those suits so much you can just go play Gundam. Tau were made to appeal to weebs anyhow
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>>323418328
>muh greater good
How does it feel being a filthy xeno?
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>>323418486
Gundams are huge, ugly and too humanoid. Crisis suits hit the sweet spot for me. I don't like how the new Tau suits look, they're too sleek. Also, Hammerheads are cool too and so are Fire Warriors.

>>323418630
Feels good, man.
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>>323418486
Mobile Suits are cooler than Tau could ever be.
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Why couldn't the best character canonically win?
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>>323418829

remove tau

REMOVE TAU
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>>323418931
They made him such a chump in DoW2 as well in addition to bringing him back to life and moving him to another Chaos legion.
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>Now Anon, it says here that you refused give up your flesh and undergo biotransference into an immortal necrodermis body. Care to explain this?
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>>323419925
It all sounds neat and all, but I'm not sure I can trust that Deceiver guy yet. I mean he sounds sound and all but, I dunno, "Deceiver"?
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>>323420024
Deceiver? No no, you're thinking of the Messenger. He's a hero to us all, allowing us to get past our disease-ridden flesh and finally defeat the Old Ones!
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>>323420272
What a swell guy he is! I'm sure I won't regret leaving my frail flesh behind. Finally we'll be able to take revenge on the Old Ones for, uh, not being born on the shittiest planet in the Universe! Those damn faggots and their healthy lives!
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>>323418931
oh Davian, they cannot hear you,
probably ranks in my top ten vidya quotes. what are some other great quotes in the dawn of war series?
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>>323418486
>>323418630
Here comes the IIDF
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>>323420704
Anything the chaos units say.
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>>323420816
the VA's of all the factions must have had a fun time recording their lines in hammy dialect. im really sad THQ closed down
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THE GROUND TREMBLES WITH EVERY STEP

man I fucking loved soloing entire maps with the demon prince
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>>323421102
>ascend Eliphas in campaign
>he looses all the cool bonuses from his wargear and a ranged attack
>gets a little bump to HP
Ehhhh.
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>>323416093
Being a dick Necron was so fun

>teleport around with Necron Lord
>at enemy's base
>deploy all the Flayed Ones
>kill a few building
>escape with Necron Lord once I see the guy coming it to defend
>wait for him to leave
>teleport back in
>Resurrection Orb
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>>323420704
"If you will not serve in combat, then you will serve on the firing line!"

I can still hear it perfectly in my head to this day
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then you obviously haven't felt how good it is to be ready to unleash 7 barrels of hell. truly, the BEHNBLEDE superheavy tank is the supreme king of the battlefield.

in all seriousness though. the best feeling on DOW 1 was when you were guardsmen, and you were so outgunned and outmanoeuvred, but then you manage to make a baneblade, but its stuck near your infantry producing place, so you blow it to smithereens, then roll that baby into chaos base and 5 shot their HQ
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>>323421189
THEY HEAR THEIR DOOM APPROACHING
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>>323419105
Blum just couldn't sell the character either.
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i always want to go back and replay these but i just wish there was a way to fix the pathing.
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>play generic rts faction
>have to decide if I want to tech up or use the ressources for more units

>play orks
>do kinda both
I like this.
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A MOMENT OF LAXITY SPAWNS A LIFETIME OF HERESY
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>attack enemy stronghold
>enemy gets a long ass speech and some flashy war assembly
>battle starts with enemy covering 3/4 of the map

>your stronghold gets attacked
>you just start with you HQ and some builders
>enemy units just attack move straight to your base

also there was that retarded ass quest where you start with loads of units but no buildings because "supplies are hard to deliver to the map because the road is bullshitty" when most buildings are either warped into existence or just dropped from the sky anyway.
Then in the Necron stronghold apparently your building droppers can penetrate through the caves no problem.
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>>323423293
>>your stronghold gets attacked
The question is, how you even get yourself in that position?
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>>323423363

You have to actively try given how stupid the a.i is.
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>>323418328
>>323418728
mah nigga Tau are my shit 2bh familia

For the Greater Good!

Also these have no resemblance to Gundam besides being metal and humanoid
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>>323423647
Keep firing, keep firing!
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If DoW3 comes out and hasn't gone back to the system in DoW1 and have a map conquest like DC then its going to flop

....Right?
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>>323423363
I was playing Tau and I ignored the Eldar because I was busy attacking Orks, Chaos and Necrons and I figured since the others have those OP strongholds I would also have an OP stronghold especially since my base also has a 10 defense.
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> all the heresy of that fucking thread
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>>323423293
That mission where you can't make any buildings is absolutely bullshit when playing as Chaos on hard. You're given such a pathetic set of troops and it's especially bad compared to some of the other factions. I don't think it's actually possible to beat Hyperion Peaks on hard with Chaos.
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>>323424007
That mission is a bitch, you really need to rush and squash at least one Ork base, or they'll start churning the troops faster than you can deal with them. Doesn't help that Chaos Preds are shit vs. tech without the upgrade - which you can't research since you have no base.
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>>323424007
I once looked up a walkthrough for this mission when playing Chaos and it said: Not possible
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>>323424183
And you get 3 or 4 cultist squads. They fold almost as fast as the defilers when going up against a killa kan.
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>>323424007
That was the first and only mission I lost as Chaos. It was complete bullshit getting all of those cultists and being expected to win.
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>>323424286
This mission is fun as IG though, because you get TWO BANEBLADES

THAT'S TWENTY TWO BARRELS OF HELL

TWENTY

TWO

I also enjoyed it as Tau, Hammerheads shoot any tech before it even comes into firing range (except for looted Lemans, those have huge range) and Skyrays tear up infantry.
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>>323423791
There wont be another dow
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>>323418060
But Dark Eldar weren't in Dark Crusade.
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>>323423791
>the novelization of that game
>lowly Shas'la fought a squad of Raptors and killed one of them by being a slimy fuck and sliding between the marine's legs while the other marines are firing at him
>kept his helmet on even when a unexploded bolt shell is embedded into it
>was covered in so much blood and guts that the Chaos marines hesitate to shoot him thinking he was also with Chaos
>insulted the Emperor right infront of an Ultramarine Captain
>kept trying to banter with said Ultramarine
>killed his way to the top of a corrupted Imperial Titan
>promoted to Shas'O Kais in Dark Crusade
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weren't Eldars hilariously overpowered in this?
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>>323424904
Holy crap, really? Fucking Shas O'Kais is the man.
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>>323425052
It's a dank meme to call it Dawn of Eldar for a reason, but I always thought the Necrons were the strongest race in DC.
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>>323425052

A fun read

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dawn_of_Eldar
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>>323424904
The Fire Caste serves with pride!
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>>323425165
>build everything from a single building
>everything builds slow as fuck
>units start slow as fuck
>reliant on generators
Shut them down in the beginning and they can't do shit to you. They were OP in SP though, especially before the Resurrection Orb nerf.
>build a limit of warriors
>lose all of them
>Resurrection Orb
>get almost twice more squads
>your Infantry cap is like 35 out of 20
Good times.
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>>323420704
"One, or a thousand, I will kill them all!"

Edgy as the Vindicare Assassin was, it fits the universe well.
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>>323415883
I played the exact same way, the moment a province of mine got attacked they got shitfucked by 3-4 bases instantly dumping the strongest units at them.

It was especially great with orkz, when you could get the free boyz and just rally point queue them forever. Finally felt orky enough.

Was a shame that past 3 or 4 bases they would stop saving your buildings.
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>>323421102

Daemon princes are pretty shit in campaign, especially in Soulstorm, where you can still easily fend off one that rushes your base within the first minute or so.
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>>323421102
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>>323420704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbCjE4af1OE

Are you not inspired?
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does anyone have that screenshot that describes how the kroots do asshole stuff to the tau for shits and giggles
the one where they do shit like standing next to a tau water caste diplomat then they'll turn up their rancid odors so the tau would smell them and almost puke but he would hold it in, stand still and just smile at them because he doesn't want to be disrespectful
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>>323424752
thank god, they really fucked up with soulstorm.
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>>323420704
WITNESS YOUR DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
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>tfw I genuinely enjoyed playing as SoB and Dark Eldar in SS

BEHOLD THE IMMOLATOR TANK! BURNING GLORY!
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>>323427429
I enjoyed DE too, their infantry is very powerful, much more so than the Eldar standard infantry
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>soulstorm has more active players than DoW2 on steam
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>>323427429
Dark Eldar were a really well designed race. They also played really unique.

SoB were casual shit because they become fucking invincible if they get to tier 2 fast.
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>>323418931
Chaos is objectively the best.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
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>>323424007
>>323424263

It's possible, you can and should cheese this by jumping your BThirster into one base and dumping everything else into the second. BT focuses the big buildings first and absolutely nothing else, even if he dies afterwards, it's not a problem as your combined force should clear out the second settlement, leaving the Orks with only one production area. If you can't keep your Defilers alive, just set them to ranged, they have decent artillery damage.

It's not a bad idea to capture the critical location in the middle of the valley for extra vision and leaving anyone unfit for building/vehicle bashing there to keep the enemy busy. All that matters is destroying the means of production.

Still, if you fuck up and don't do this quickly, you will get swarmed by Trukks/Killa Kanz and Sluggas all day. Having a pimped out Honour Guard and Eliphas helps (just skip the Daemon Prince "upgrade" as it's a downgrade in almost any aspect, in some cases even including health as some races are better at fighting Daemon type armour). I honestly think this is the most fun extra mission and having Orks keep it by default was a stroke of brilliance as it's extremely fluffy.
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>>323420704
I will never unhear this.
Off topic, I miss when 40k threads were fun. Like that time everyone spoke like Orkz
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>>323428160
LET THE GALAXY BUUUUURNN
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>>323428313
Every time I hear that I imagine that it's Cultist-chan saying it.
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>>323428160
On your drop ship hull,
I planted a melta bomb,
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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>>323428313
>Like that time everyone spoke like Orkz
This makes my brain melt desu.
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>>323428313
>. Like that time everyone spoke like Orkz

Playing as ork on Warhammer online was fun.
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>>323428212

Oh and keep an eye out on your builders and your available power. Requisition can be acquired from captured points but energy is very finite and can/will run out if you reinforce your elite squads too much or if you repair your vehicles a lot.
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>>323428340
KILL
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>>323418328
dc 1.0 was so fucking unbalanced, I had an account with 77 ranked wins in a row as TAU by making only a squad of vespid, the general and 3/4 fire warriors
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>>323428673
ALL GLORY TO THE DARK GODS
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>play imperial guard
>have to make lines of defense across choke points and gradually push the enemy into a corner moving forward little by little
>lines of defense are held entirely by lines of heavy gunner squads, turrets and artillery
>for some fucking reason the enemy team always seems to be able to constantly spawn their strongest units
>each game takes hours
Fuck it, installing.
Also
>spend hours pushing enemy into a corner
>take out their base
>the game doesnt end
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>>323428780

I remember seeing some pro guy post his replays in relic forums, he went 22-0 as Necrons in DC1.2.

Good times, pity DoW2 turned out the way it did. Here's hoping DoW3 will take the best out of both games and resemble Total War in the least. I'd kill for it to be like DC/SS but I know that's not possible.
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>>323428780
What baffled me was that they required patches to let you join Chaplains to squads.
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>>323428948
>he went 22-0 as Necrons in DC1.2

Forgot to mention, that was in automatch (ranked).
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Can someone recommend me Warhammer 40k books that are not about Imperial Guards or Space Marines?
I have read Path of the Dark Eldar and right now finishing Ahriman trilogy.
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>>323429091
Does the Inquisition count? Eisenhorn.
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>>323418060
I literally like every single 40k army. Eldar are my favorite, but they are all so god damned cool.
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Fear nothing, your ancestors are here.
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>>323429260
waiting here is but a phaAaAaAse of our existence
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Let us join minds and courage!
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Warhammer 40k: Chaos Marine when?
With this for maximum edge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjdRtCLoaJ8
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Who Slaneesh here?
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The wanderers have returned. We seek the adventure that only war can bring.
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>>323418060
All this grim dark goofy, edgy shit to choose from and you choose the only race that are proper faggots.Eldar are neat, but theyre so boring compared to the universe they inhabit.
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We have mastered the art of destruction. We are doom incarnate.
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The troupe is ready, the stage is set.
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>>323429380
Me
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They shall see their futures laid bare, and terrible!
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>>323428918
>>take out their base
>>the game doesnt end

I don't need a reminder of the bullshit that was Eldar webways. A game that should have lasted half an hour took 3 fucking hours to finish.

>>323429091
There's the Inquisition series, Ravenor and Eisenhorn. There's the Word Bearer, Night Lord, and Iron Warrior books, unless you meant you don't want anything to do with any of the space marines. I think there was a series involving a mechanicus explorator fleet, but I haven't read it yet so I can't say whether it's any good or not. Titanicus if you want a glimpse into the titan legions. Aside from a couple of HH books that don't focus on the legions, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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>>323421369
>play 3v3
>enemy team is all friends with similar names
>host says: "No eldar, eldar are fucking OP"
>host picks eldar
>flayed one rush his ass
>he is completely unprepared while teching up
>takes ages for his neighbor to get to him to help him out
>kill most of his base
>with 1 of them so far behind, me and my two random allies steamroll them
>he bitches and whines the entire rest of the game
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Only the Eldar may unwind the tangled skein of fate.
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The Craftworld is our home, and we are her guardians!
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>>323420704

>Such inspiring courage! Perhaps we'll mount your corpse on a golden chair and make an idol out of you as well?

Based Eliphas
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>>323418486
They don't even look like gundams, desu.
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>>323429380
Absolutely. DoW 2 might not have been the best, but at least it brought Noise Marines back into relevance as DJs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGRsDe3iRw

I still prefer the old rock and roll look though
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BEHOLD, THE FIERY DESTROYER OF WORLDS!
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I bought DoW2 in the Steam sale recently, as at the time of release my PC was too weak to play it and I never got around to improving it until I got a new laptop. It's alright, I see why some people hate it and some people love it. I think it's a lot less 'casual' in the sense that you're always doing something and it's a lot more stressful. You'd get moments like that in DoW1 but it wasn't constant all the way through the match.

Here's hoping that DoW3 does happen.Even if it was just the DoW2 engine with fuckhuge armies and actual open maps again I'd be happy. Larger scale engagements would be fucking mint.

DoW3 might happen though, they recently released DLC for 1 and 2 that included the extra gore and gore animation DLC didn't they? Plus Relic are owned by Sega now and Sega have the rights to Warhammer Fantasy RTS games with Creative Assembly making those, so Games Workshop renewing Relic's license with Sega isn't at all far fetched.
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The host is assembled, and we fully commit ourselves to the battle.
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>tfw Warhammer 40k online is almost doomed to be shit
And not in a good way you khorne flakes
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Eldar-Anon-kun, what do the Eldar do in their free time? Having fun while not wearing masks seems to let Slaanesh eat their soul.
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>>323429509
i dont know how eldar are boring at all. the concept behind the different aspects and their mythology is fucking rad.

ive also only recently started hearing people calling them boring.
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>>323429924
Eternal Crusade looks pretty ok actually, combat wise at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkxtnIxqdKc
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>>323430014
Really? To me, it just looks like Space Marine's multiplayer, but more janky and with less pretty graphics.
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>>323429905

It's pretty fun for what it is. Like some anons told me once, it's more of an ARPG combined with a tactical squad game

I think DoW3 should be a combination of both Dow1 and 2. The way the SMs worked in DoW2 was perfect, small squads that drop in tactical positions to take out entire armies by themselves. Gunning down large mobs of orks never felt so good. But at the same time keep the other factions that need huge armies and actual production the same as in the first game
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>>323429975
Being Aspect Warriors is one of the ways the Eldar spend their free time, as free time is all they have.
The Eldar live in pretty much post scarcity society, where individuals are free to live their lives how they see fit, within the confines of the path system of course.

For an Eldar, being an Aspect Warrior is like a "professional" hobby that they are super serious about. It also allows them to channel the destructive, and violent urges all eldar have, in a controlled, and useful way.
The Guardians on the other hand, are Eldar who take up arms when needed, despite their main thing being something else, like baking for example, at the moment.
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>>323429924
>khorne flakes
lol
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>>323430014
At least we get TW: Warhammer.
Maybe we'll get a 40k version if it sells well.
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>>323430007
Compared to everything else they are very generic sci fi. Even Space Marines get a pass because theyre a bunch of mad zealots, its a quirk. Their mythology is neat, all the mythologies are neat, but the Eldar themselves are very vanilla, the Tau are easily the most lame of all the races though, their saving grace is their neat armour designs.
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>>323430192
Space Marine multiplayer was fantastic though.
Also, it actually has more stuff in it than Spesh Muhreen multiplayer had already.
Jankiness and graphix will probably get fixed in time, as the game is still in early development.

I am pretty happy if we get a Spesh Muhreen multiplayer with bigger maps, more people, vehicles, along with Eldar and the Orks desu.
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>>323429924

At least we're still getting Battlefleet Gothic, which looks fucking awesome
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>>323430374
i dont get it. tame in what way? imperium is just directly Earth cultures so im confused to how they are not generic sci fi and the super psychics are.
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>>323430192
pretty sure that's a very early alpha or something like that

Still won't be able to replace my urge for DoW 3
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>>323430374
>Compared to everything else they are very generic sci fi

How in the fuck are the Eldar generic? Their aesthetic style is pretty damn unique, as is their fluff.
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>>323430348
40k wouldn't work well with total war gameplay. Total war battles are centered around blocks of soldiers and so on. So it's probably not going to happen. Wargame or world in conflict 40k would be neat as fuck though.
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Hey mon'keigh

Wanna defile my prude craftworld holes?
I-I just feel sorry for you lesser races is all!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbmDLVFAaec

Mister Nailbrain, all hands on deck. It's time ta finish dis spiky zog.
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>>323430764
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>>323430764
Fluffwise, the Eldar look creepy and inhuman m8.
That sort of "art" disgusts me.
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>>323430764
No, I know that you poop crystals from there.
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>>323430836
DoW 2 had absolutely fantastic voice acting.
Probably the best in the whole RTS genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUP3_kh01mI

>dat Warloc voice.
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>>323430842
Hey mon'keigh

Wanna defile my prude craftworld holes?
I-I just feel sorry for you lesser races is all!
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>>323430014

this actually looks way better than that ultra shitty teaser they released before with all of the cringey voiceover work
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>>323430764
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>>323429541
>tfw Maugan-Ra alone hold a planet against a Tyranid fleet
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>>323430923
>implying that anyone besides some degenerate Dark Eldar would lower themselves to basically beastiality,.
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>>323430014
Even if this game ends up p2w trash, I'm still going to play the fuck out of it. Just for more gameplay similar to Space Marine.
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>>323430981
ALL WHO LOVE LIFE, FEAR THE REAPER!
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>>323430374
>Eldars
>Sci-Fi
They're pretty much straight up fantasy.

They fucked so much they birthed a Chaos God.
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>play as ig
>have heroes mod installed
>level up my command squad
>literally soloing the whole map with it.
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>>323431028
Same here, assuming that the Eldar get included properly.
I wanna roll in with da spesh wizards.
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>>323430990
its just a joke, brother

I would never debase myself and mate with a filthy Human...haha..ha
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>>323431090
Why does working a life-time to perfect sex, drugs, and rock & roll create a chaos god.
But not working a life-time to create the perfect cuckoo clock or whatever?
All this concentrated boredom should spawn the chaos god of boring.
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>>323430764
I'll do more than that.
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>>323429607
Leatherman. It's been too long, friend.
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>>323431274
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>>323431274
>>323431442
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>>323431274
Haha, i could kill you all humans any time I wanted! But I feel so bad for you so I'll just let you...um...cum in all my holes at once.
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>>323431269
Because an entire race of highly psychic beings did that for... hundreds of years? Thousands? I don't remember exactly, but 40k loves its ridiculously big numbers, so I'll go with thousands.

>>323431069
Reapers were my favorite Eldar unit in DoW. Build a couple of squads of these with a scout squad for support, and they rip through everything.
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>>323431442
>propaganda.jpg
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>>323430764
Lasst die Hexe nicht leben!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knbZZ6qur-8
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>>323430227
Agreed on all counts there. Only issue I see would be balancing fuckhuge armies and smaller elite armies. It'd be neat to see some of the stuff GW has done with the tabletop game in DoW, like the Imperial Knights. They're halfway between a Dreadnought and a Titan and a full army is only like 6 units on average.
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>>323431595
I see your german Grey Knights, and raise German Chaos Muhreens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHOL-EIGCY
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>>323431595
>Lasst die Hexe nicht leben!
Wow that's an awful translation, sounds really faggy. Something like "Die Hexe muss sterben" would be much better.
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>>323431595
>>323431671
German fits some of the factions so well.
The Dark Eldar sound freaking sick in German.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSBj21e0C8s
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Titanium Wars best mod.

Best reason to keep playing SS
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>>323431595
Jesus fucking christ I feel the urge to purge and i dont even understand whats being said
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>>323430374

The Eldar are ellenic egypt in space.
The T'au are battletech with smurfs inside, their Titan even resembles a destroid from Macross, which was the main inspiration for battletech.
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>>323431754
>We rise in number. We blot out the sun.
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>>323431671
Dawn of War 2 really let me down on that count. I don't know why they stopped letting that guy do all generic Space Marine related voice lines.
He still did the loyalists, I think. But I barely remember.
For some reason Dawn of War 2 seemed to have worse German voice acting all around so I switched to English pretty early on.
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>>323431915
The Dark Eldar are actually pretty friggin numerous. They outnumber their Craftworld kin with ease, as their population isn't limited by the amount of soulstones available, nor do they shy away from shit like speed growing embryos into adulthood, like the CWE do.

So when the Dark Eldar invade a world, they can indeed, blot out the sun. Though, they usually invade during the dark of the night.
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>>323427873
Thats because SS is objectively a better game.
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>>323432293
>>323427873
woah...
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>>323431915
I hope that DoW 3 will have the Deldar in it.
The aesthetic reboot they got is fucking fantastic. The Deldar models are easily among the best ones GW has ever made.
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>>323432293
That goes without saying, but SS is also way older.
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>>323432484
>tzeentch not PC
lol wtf
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Someone tried the Warhammer online: return of reckoning life support server?

http://www.returnofreckoning.com/about.php
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>>323432484
yes
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>>323432484
>Nurgle
>not the console marketed as "for the whole family"

you dun goofed
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>>323432567
tzeentchfag triggered at the sight of nurgle
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>>323418486
>Gundam

It's Dougram, Macross and Votoms you retard.
In one word, Battletech.
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>>323415883
Fuck you anon, I need to reinstal DoW fuck you.
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>>323432484
Tzeentch and Nurgle are top tier and should be PC and PS4. Khorne is alright and should be Xbone, and Slaanesh goes with Wii U because most people who buy them are fucking degenerates.
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>>323432726
>the ones I like the most should go to the systems I like the most
fuck off
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>>323432726
>following chaos
>not all degenerates

killing people for fun is as degenerate as sexual torture and heinous drug usage.
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>>323432484
nurgle shuld be xbox cuz hes GREEN AHAHAHAHA
XDXDXD

PC MUSTARD HAS TO BE TCHEETECHZCH
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>>323432710
Same.
Fuck this shit.
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>>323415883
>You never play again with your 3 friends in that gay winter map where bases were right next each other and have standstill that lasts 2 hours and ends with someone giving up ;_;
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>I take orks cause I love orcs

>buddy takes IG

>ha, this is gonna be ez

>tfw im on the receiving end of nonstop artillery I cant even see the entire match any time I harass his guys
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>>323432934
What's wrong with sexual torture and heinous drug use?
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>>323433524
>yfw Guardsmen can get grenade launchers in like first tier
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>>323428313
You are fucking dead cultist-chan, get back in your box.
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>>323433626
I would not be able to survive matches without this.
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>>323433708
>play IG vs. Rapecrons
>get GLs
>Necrons slooowly advance on my positions
>sloooowly fall down
>sloooowly get up
>while I just tech and expand
IG were pretty good.
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>>323428160

I fucking love things CSM shout when they see Avatar of Khaine.

>TODAY, WE KILL A GOD!
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>>323428537
>rips open the wound

Why did you do this? Why did someone have to remind me?
Im going to lay in bed and turn on the OST until I cry to sleep
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The first DoW games had the best animations in RTS ever. They were light and optimized as hell I have no idea why they weren't more popular.

DoW 2 was shit with its no base building tactics crap. I don't care if it was closer to the tabletop. I want to play RTS not tabletop.
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>>323433934
Chaos is best army
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>>323434000
Kill yourself, family member
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>>323433842

GL do no good when Cron bring out the Wraiths, though. Solar Pulse (Field? I forgot the name) in particular fucks over the IG so badly it's not funny.
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Who /SpaceNegroes/ here?
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>>323434316
>Solar Pulse (Field? I forgot the name) in particular fucks over the IG so badly it's not funny.
You just need to run away.
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>>323434130
After you, kid.
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>>323434409
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>>323434421

Not when he pops it in the middle of an engagement when your armies clash, especially if he drops FO's on your back. Not to mention the passive slow of Chronosphere or whatever that artifact was called.
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>>323434409
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>>323418328
>>323423647
You do realize the "Greater Good" is bullshit, right?
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>>323434646
>Not to mention the passive slow of Chronosphere or whatever that artifact was called.
I don't remember, but isn't that a late-game one? You should probably have armour by that point, and lategame guards are actually pretty tanky for a 15 req unit.
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>>323420704
>what are some other great quotes in the dawn of war series?
"Millenias pass, but ork slaying remains an unchanging pleasure."
- Steve "Steve Blum" Blum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLLL0drCY8o&t=11m35s
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>>323429843
hell yeah motherfucker
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>>323434740
>"Greater Good" is bullshit
As expected from a Gue'la.
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>>323434760

It's a first tier upgrade, passively slows enemies around NL and can freeze them on an active use. Besides, if a Cron lets you back off from a Solar Pulse, he fucked up.
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>>323429357
Fuck I wish.
Listening to this makes me want to make the blood flow.
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>>323434948
Ah, I see. That probably hurts a lot!
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>>323434979

>Chaos Rising
>bad
>has the best campaign in the entire series

Have i been baited?
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>>323427873
They moved to a mod
Effect of pisspoor matchmaking and THQ dying while patching it up
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>>323434836
>ABANDON REASON, KNOW ONLY WAR
>YOU ARE MY SHIELD, REJOICE IN YOUR DEATH
>STAY MY HAND AGAIN, AND YOU MAY LOSE YOURS
>YOU THINK YOU KNOW THE WARP, LIBRARIAN?
>EVEN DEAD, YOU CANNOT SEE THE TRUTH
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>>323435018

It lets you back off from an engagement or capitalize on an enemy mistake, like overextending and chasing too far. The amount of hurt depends on your current army state and placement.
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>>323429703

>host makes a rule we can't be eldar
>they pick eldar

Fucking faggot.
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>>323435087
>Playing an RTS for singleplayer
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>>323434979
I have retribution without any dlcs.
I played 2 hours in total since 2011
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>>323435265
>DoWII
>RTS
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>>323429703
>Things that didnt happen.jpg
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>Play through DoW2 campaign
>didn't like it at first, grew on me as the campaign progressed and I got to rip through tyranid hordes
>start chaos rising
>get Librarian
>HOLY SHIT THIS FUCKER IS AWESOME
>suddenly notice something
>a bug
>sometimes squads randomly get stuck and won't respond at all
>Houston we have a problem
>Squad stuck for an entire mission because of a retarded bug that never got fixed
>have been stuck in mission 3 for the last 5 days because of this

FUCKING WHY
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>those fucking shouts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgs29veFrdE
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>>323434979
>Dark Crusade gets a Sororitas mod
>it's fucking incredible
>Soul Storm comes out
>Sororitas are lazily made and garbage
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Who Fag Chapter here?
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>>323435265
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>>323415883
Truly the greatest RTS ever made.
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>>323435338
Yes DoW2 is an RTS

Maybe you should try actually playing the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZXOdSW_A1s
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>>323435484
>Maybe you should try actually playing the game

Yes, my mistake, I really should try giving it a go sometime.

DoWII is RTT, not RTS
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>>323434843
No, I'm serious. Brainwashing entire populations in the name of an ideology which may or may not be the Ethereal's actual endgame is a pretty evil act.

Honestly, Orks are probably the closest faction to "good," funnily enough. No ideologues, just fight. Cuz fight is fun, ya grot.
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>>323434979
bait.
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>>323435375
>shit crusade gets a Sororitas mod
>its shit, buggy and poorly implemented, with models that look like blow up sexdolls
>Soulstorm comes out
>Sororitas are an amazing race and the most fun to play in the whole game and the models look like they fit in with the other races
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>>323435358

works for me lol
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>>323435358
You can complete Chaos Rising in like 6 hours, just start over m8
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>>323435652
Closest to good? Bullfuckingshit. Farsight's Enclave seems to be closest to good.
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>>323435623
DoW2 is an RTS

Try playing the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyY-ITZCsNc
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>>323435353
>3 v 3 Winter Assault as Eldar
>connection problems
>2 people leave from my team
>1 leaves from enemy team
>2 enemies go like: "it's ok, we'll let you build up for 15 minutes"
>take ressources for 3 people
>times runs out
>attack them with maxed army
>keep spamming fire prisms and warp spiders with my infinite ressources
>"no wait!"
>"no, gives us some time"
>"don't end"
One of them maxed on Wraithlords for some reason. I will never know what he was thinking.
That 30 support cap on Eldar was fucking ridiculous though.
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>>323435652
Yes, killing and burning everything because it's "fun" is much better than peaceful expansion.
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>>323435087
>singleplayer
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>>323435790
>maybe if I just keep saying the same thing over and over without knowing the difference between the words 'tactics' and 'strategy', I'll be right
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CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE TAU HAVE VAGINAS IN THEIR FOREHEADS? BECAUSE REALLY. HOW DID ANYONE GIVE THAT THE OKAY?
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>>323435484
Indrid is such a dull caster to listen to.
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>>323435652
Humans have a twisted sense of "good"

Reminds of that video where the chimp rips an animals organs out of its back while it beats the living shit out of it
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>>323435935
What, you wouldn't fuck someone's brain if you had the chance?
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>>323435912
>playing the multiplayer aftering being so disappointed with the single
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SoulStorm or Dark Crusade?
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>>323420704
The Sanctioned Psyker is definitely the best one. That laughter, man.
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>>323435940
Indrid's the only DoWII caster worth watching, I think. He's clear, concise and to the point. Never really cared for the others.
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>>323436039

Are we sure that's where the brain is located in the Tau? I'm not up on my xeno-anatomy.
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>>323434979

>Soulstorm best
>DC worst
>Winter Assault "meh"
>Chaos Rising bad
>implying vanilla DoW2 campaign isn't GOAT
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>>323435934
How exactly, does DoW 2 lack strategy, in comparison to DoW 1?
>>
Does anyone have any good DOW1 multiplayer guides?

I tried getting gud, but I just can't.
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>>323436253
Ignore him, he's some guy who finds every DoW thread and tries to turn it into a shitflinging contest by calling DC worse than Dragon Age 2.
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DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO!?
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>>323435785
Actually, I forgot about Farsight, So you're right there. Sorry, senpai. Though I still stand my ground on the Orks when discussing races as a whole.

>>323435868
Nah, nigga. You don't understand. You're thinking about things in 21st century mindset. In 40k, the real evils are the ideologies leading the races to go to war. Orks do it for fun and are just living life for themselves.
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>>323436432

Ib4 20 posts claiming it isn't true. Last time I was in these threads the cunt got his posts righteously deleted, hopefully next time this'll end with a ban.
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>>323436473

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHOL-EIGCY
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Who Angry Nuns here?
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>>323436303
Read up on your dictionary and genre definitions, mate. DoWII is focused on smaller squad management along with heavily micromanaging units and their abilities with no focus on basebuilding, i.e. tactics. DoW1 is focused on a larger scale, managing basebuilding together with producing troops and managing every aspect of the war effort, from telling the builders where to go to entrenching key positions or listening posts.

Please don't link Indrid's casts at me, either. I know who he is. I've been featured in his casts already and play with him regularly.
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>>323436494
You must love Nids then, I mean they're even more of a "power of nature". Doesn't mean I'd want them anywhere near my planet.
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>>323436624

>SoB, Spess Muhreens and IG are all technically on the same side
>all fight each other in Soutstorm
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>>323436624
I BRING SALVATION THROUGH ANNIHILATION!
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>>323436681
There is nothing to manage in DoW 1's basebuilding. It has easily one of the worst, and most simplistic basebuilding systems in the genre par shit like Grey Goo, and there is absolutely zero reason to ever build anything besides listening posts outside of your starting area, unless you happen to be Eldar, in which case you also have Webway gates.
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>>323436925
I agree with you, it's shallow and has no depth, but it's still a key aspect of the game absent from DoW2 which differentiate them in terms of genre.
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>>323436681

>he thinks base building matters in DoW1

DoW1 is as much of microing and squad management as DoW2 is. The only difference is that DoW1 is bigger in scale
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>>323420704
>What are some other great quotes in the dawn of war series?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-gSJW3sHXE
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>>323436806
Ehh, Nids are okay, but they're essentially space locusts. At least Orks have an actual society
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>>323436624
they are cool but useless as fuck
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>>323437115
>DoW1 is as much of microing and squad management as DoW2 is.

Micro and squad management in DoW1 matter, yes, but it's much less in-depth than it is in DoW2. Proper line of sight and shotblocking doesn't even exist in DoW1
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>>323437115
>he thinks base building matters in DoW1

Of course it does, the order in which you build buildings decides available troops and upgrades and may delay your transition into further tiers.
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>>323437274
You see, when you have a society that literally invades and kills entire planets' populations "for fun" and "because you thought it was a cool thing to do", your society is pretty evil by most subjective standards (as good and evil are not objective qualities). Tau official ideology is the most humane one in the 40k world (as they offer everyone a chance, unlike, say, humans, who literally are willing to exterminate all the Xenos regardless of their actual danger), and everything beyond that is just intentionally ambiguous fluff.

I mean FFS, human members of Tau Empire are literally allowed to worship Emperor. What else do you pale-faces need?
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>>323436925

>>323437371

If all you play is quick start "NO RUSH FOR 35 MINUTES, PLEASE" games, please shut the fuck up and don't open your mouth.
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>>323415883
>mfw in Soulstorm they 'fixed' this

Use to do it as Tau and loved it. I imagined I was settling the planet, human, Tau, Kroot, and Vespid alike

I've been trying to find a mod for Soul Storm that adds codex units but doesn't break the campaign like every single one seems to do. I just want to have IG units for Space Marines and Tau. I want to use Tau's human auxiliaries.

No idea why this wasn't in the base game.
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>>323429091
I have a meeting from 11-1, but, after that, there's a MegaUpload of a whole bunch of 40k epubs.
If the thread is still up, I'll post it
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>>323437640
There's something really fucking fishy about the Ethereal, and that's reason alone not to trust the Tau.
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>>323436624
We know our place.
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>>323429091
Skitarius and Tech Priest are both excellent.
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>>323437524
Just your imagination Commissar.

>>323436039
Finally figured out the tranny part, It's because his slit is a straight line, right?
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>>323437248
What other games/lore have a pure edge faction like that?
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>>323437783
There's something really rotten about the Emperor. Oh wait, it's the smell. Get it, 'cause he's a rotting corpse on a life support? Fucking Gue'la. At least Ethereals can walk and talk.
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>>323437903
Chaos isn't even the pure edgelord faction of 40k. The dark eldar are.
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>>323437968
You don't get it. The Ethereals are not fucking Tau. They are an entirely different species, and the only options that research into them has revealed is that they are either a proxy species created by the Eldar for some purpose or are Tzeentchian daemons in disguise.
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>>323437889
As hats upon the bonce of the glorious Grey Knights.
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>>323437783
>muh human wit just can't permit

Gue'la please
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>>323428039
>Dark Eldar were a really well designed race.
They were too reliant on Scourges, I really didn't like that.
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>>323436253
>Soulstorm not the best
>DC not the worst
>Winter assault not a broken mess
>Chaos Rising not bad
>Playing RTS for singleplayer
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>>323427873
DoW2: Retribution - Elite Mod has 1000+ players online in the evening.
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>>323438025
Imperium is edgy as hell too since it's a hybrid of several totalitarian regimes with religious motiffs.

>>323438128
>human research
None of that is hard canon, anyway. I doubt they're daemons since I assume human psykers during various conflicts would notice that.

Besides, it just werks.
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>>323428039
>SoB were casual shit because they become fucking invincible if they get to tier 2 fast.
No, you are just shit at the game
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>>323438025
that is bad ass.

movie with that art and those fuckers when?
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>>323436925
Not him, but going full retarded makes you go full retard, sorry.
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>>323438389
Does it matter if it was human conducted research? The fact of the matter was that the Ethereals all had the crystal like hormone gland implanted underneath the skin of their foreheads, the exact same organ found on the queens of a xenos species called the Qorl.

And it just so happens that the Eldar helped the Qorl out at one point and requested their queens as payment.
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Where were you when Germans were confirmed secret chaos heretics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHOL-EIGCY
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>>323438406
There's already a movie about them. It's called Hellraiser
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>>323438656
Why this obsession with German anon?
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>>323438637
Again, that's of dubious canon. (Xenology), and even if it was, well, it means Eldar did something right for once in their long and pointless lives. Canon-wise Tau can fight Eldar, so it's not like they're on a leash.
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>>323420704
Where's the truck? WHY IS I WALKIN'?!
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>>323438194
I swear I'm the only person in the whole world that actually liked that piece of fluff. It showed that the Grey Knights are willing to anything - and I mean ANYTHING - to beat back the daemonic hordes. Even highly questionable blood-magic powered by the deaths of the faithful isn't out of the question if the threat is great enough. It really shows how incredibly dangerous daemons are to the Imperium, as well as showing that the Gey Knights are not the heroic space-knights that they appear to be.
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>>323438826
>Creating a species that uses pheromones to exert control over another species
>Right

Farsight didn't seem to think so.
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>>323431274
A long time ago, on an image board far, far away...

/tg/ - corpulen/tg/ents

EPISODE II: GETTING SHIT DONE

I miss ten years ago in every possible way
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>>323438874
Here now, I never said I didnt like it, I was saying that they make stylish headwear. Grey Knights make no compromises, no matter what and this act showed that.
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>>323436860
There is no "same side" in the imperium.
Even the space marine CHAPTERS fight with each other.
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>>323434979
>hating on dark crusade
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>>323439023
Tau before Ethereals: a bunch of primitive faggots beating the shit out of each other with pointy sticks, dime a dozen in the vast Galaxy.

Tau after Ethereals: a small, but ever-growing interplanetary Empire with the fastest developing tech (as in, actually developing, and not "finding old farm tech STC and quickly adapting them as battle vehicles", the only entity to actually allow aliens to take a place beside them and not just being wiped out for fun/because they're alien and thus must die/FOR KHAY-OSS. The last, best hope of the Galaxy. Well, not really I guess, as there's only war but you get me.

I'm pro-Ethereal.
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>>323435686
really most fun to play?????

I can't stand them they're my least favorite race not in the least cuz of all their goofy quotes
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Is the Warhammer mod for Mount&Blades worth it?
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>>323439053
>2006 was 10 years ago
Oh my god. Ive wasted that much of my life on this shitty website.
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>>323439338
>liking shit crusade
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>>323431028
It's already hardcore p2w (like starcitizen tier p2w).
And the game isn't even in beta yet.
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>>323439398
>I'm pro-Ethereal.
They're controlling you, you fool!
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>>323439740
Farsight is not the hero the Tau need.

He is the hero the Tau deserve.

And Au'Shin.
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>>323439398
Tau are just the beginning of the Empire
There are Kroot, Vespids, Deimurg, Nicassar, etc. plus all of the T'au castes are physically different from one another

Tau also happen to look like fucking bad asses in fire warrior battlesuits
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>>323435265
>Being a multiplayer kiddy
>'I c-can't have fun if others are not w-watching!"
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>>323435387
This desu
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>>323427873
DoW 2 isn't a Dawn of War game.
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>>323439398
Yeah, but what is the actual end goal of the ethereal? You don't REALLY believe the whole Greater Good nonsense, do you?

They are up to something, and whatever it is, it's not good.
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>>323437898
Your knowledge of Xeno biology is impressive...and dangerous. Are you sure there's no heresy going on here?
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>>323439740
Tau would never be where they are without them. Maybe some questions don't need answers yet.

>>323439938
The Empire will stand strong! I mean, those minis are expensive as hell, no way GW will ever nuke Tau while they can sell those overpriced chunks of plastic.
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>>323440039
Sure it is. It's just a RTT game instead of a RTS one.

Others like it, others don't. As with most things.
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>>323430348
>40k
>Total War

You can tell underage post when you see shit like this.
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>>323440120
Not that anonymous servant of the Emperor, but did you know Commissar that Kroot breed in a utterly bizarre way?
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>>323439740
Based Farsight, he even gets to fuck best Taufu.
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>>323439938
Hey, xeno scum. Remember the Damocles Gulf Crusade?

We do.
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>>323440120
Brother did you just say the word...heresy?
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>>323440002
>Being a singleplayer kiddie
>being so much of a casual you are afraid to play against competent human players rather than brainless AI
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>>323440062
Greater Good is a nice ideal in any way. On it's own it's actually some very basic morals, though the name is obviously ironic, "for the greater good" being a stock phrase used to justify terrible things. The deal is, Tau Empire doesn't even engage in terrible things. And the ideal of Greater Good is laudable, and more appealing than "kill all xenos", "kill all xenos very slowly to enjoy their pain", "kill all xenos because FUN", "kill all xenos for khay-oss" etc.

>They are up to something, and whatever it is, it's not good.
Since you seem to like Xenology so much - it implied that Ethereals' pheromones influence them too and, as such, they're genuinely selfless leaders, not hand-rubbing happy merchants.
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>>323439938
The Tau Empire is a teeny tiny thing. IIRC they were originally meant to represent all of the little alien empires dotted about the place, which is probably why they feature auxiliaries with yet more alien races. On the scale that every other faction operats at the Tau Empire may as well not even be there, they are that small.

Of course because they were made a faction they also get bigged up like every other faction, which leads to this little podunk backwater empire being THE GREATEST THING EVER and beating everything sent against them because they're so amazing and cool. This clashes awkwardly with their size - especially when you consider that the Damocles Crusade (which was a fucking big deal for the Tau) was a whole four regiments of Guard, some 150-ish Space Marines and eight cruisers/heavy cruisers.
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>>323440460
das gay
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>>323440425
Remember how plasma tastes? We can remind you.
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>>323440425
>DoW:DC and SS
>Both Kais and Or'es'ka say "SPACE MARINES!! THEY'LL PAY FOR DAMOCLES!"
>DoW2: Retribution DLC Tau Commander in Last Stand says the same

Yep brother. They remember it way too well. Better than us I can even say.
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>>323440427
>tfw every want's to be a spache maiinnneee
>tfw nobody want's to be a floating skull
I'd love to be a floating skull, fuck.
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>>323440168
DoW2 is an RTS, just a shit RTS.
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>>323440520
You do realize that the Tau Empire forces you to join or die?

Conquered communities either give up their autonomy and join the Tau Empire, or are destroyed.

This is a far cry from the methods of most other factions, of course, but put into any other setting, the Tau would be clear bad guys.
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>>323440724
RTS games traditionally have base building elements, so if not an RTT, it's at least an unconventional RTS.

You can trash it all you like, but it is still a part of the series and a lot of people like it. Subjectivity, anon.
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>>323440667
Dare you enter my magical realm?
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>>323440595
Dude, there were even some Titans in the Crusade.

>>323440734
>You do realize that the Tau Empire forces you to join or die?
That's not true, the Water Caste will happily trade with the communities that don't desire to join and hope that eventually they'll see the benefits of being Imperial citizens. There's also some fun paranoid fluff about shit like Vespids getting mind-control armour (???), but even that is only rumors for purpose of ambiguity.

>put into any other setting, the Tau would be clear bad guys
Wow, if you put them against Sparkling Rainbow Unicorns who solve all the problems with hugs and songs, I guess they would, they have guns and all!
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>After overcoming the Tau defenders and exterminating the alien populace the crusade moved on to their next target. As Imperial forces now made preparations to cross the Damocles Gulf, Imperial ships launched an orbital bombardment of the Tau world of Viss'el after finding it had no strategic value. The world's polar ice caps melted and all life was purged.
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>>323440935
Dumbed down RTS i think is the phrase you are looking for.
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>>323440935
I don't understand the mindless hate it gets just because it tried to do something different. The combat was actually a much better representation of 40k combat that the originals IMO, all it needed was a larger scale and more building.

Base building could be cut down for some races (e.g Space Marines have HQ - landing pad - teleport homer) and remain almost fully intact for others (Imperial Guard), with a massive increase in the amount of field defenses and suchlike as in Company of Heroes for appropriate factions.

Dawn of Company of Heroes+ would be just about perfect for DoW III, IMO.
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>>323421369
>Flayed one spamming
>not building a 2nd mono and spamming free warriors
>not getting the dark scream ability for your lord and teleporting behind his army, then forcing it to run helplessly into your wall of warriors
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>>323441186
Stop lying.

>When the Tau encounter a new alien species, the Ethereals direct each of the Castes preforms a designated role to bring them into the Empire's fold. The world is first scanned by the Air Caste and those classified as desirable are investigated further, and if a sentient alien race is discovered the Water Caste sends ambassadors to make trade deals, defense pacts, and offer advanced technologies built for them by the Earth Caste. However should all these efforts fail to persuade the planet to join with them in the Greater Good, it will fall to the Fire Caste to forcibly absorb the world into the Tau Empire.
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>>323415883
>chaos
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>>323441509
>trade deals
So you agree to trade with them and that's enough, at least for a decently long time. Wow, that's truly HORRIBLE and ABHORRENT.
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>>323440427
Wish I had that one cultist chan image where she interiors people and says no one is loyal everyone is heretic. And then everyone starts arguing
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>>323441416
People forget that Space Marines don't build bases. Ever. At all. Even those that do, like Imperial Fist, leave and put PDF in them instead.

Space Marines only defend shit if it is worthwhile doing so. They don't land on a planet then go "Right, let's build a barracks to train dudes, a factory to build tanks, and resource extraction stuff to power them!". They go in, they hit a target, then leave. If the Imperial Guard who will be fighting on the same planet in huge numbers don't make headway, the Space Marines hit another target or help them in specific areas.

Siege of Vraks was literally "Space Marines came in, left, then came back again to end the siege when the DKoK had fought for literally 20 years to get that far, kill the Daemon Prince leader and his Chaos Cronies and then left again".

That's it. Space Marines don't build bases. They don't train dudes in these bases on planet.

DoW2 was a much better representation, correct.
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>>323441653
Why are you shilling for warmongering aliens?
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>>323424904
Kais from DC being from Fire Warrior isn't canon, just a theory.
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>>323441861
Because he's Gue'vesa.
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I seriosuly hope you guys don't main Grey Knights.
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>>323441861
Why not? Also plasma guns are cool.

>>323441881
Confirmed by Relic, though.
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>>323441881
It's irrelevant as well. Tau only live 40 Terran years on average. Furthermore, Tau don't get given names are birth. They earn them. They earn them for being a good shot, or smart, or whatever. Kais could simply be a name two different people have earned.
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>>323421369
Necrons are garbage tier and anyone whos not a retard would just kite flayed ones and that's IF they allow you to get into tier 2 in the first place.
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>>323441813
You're correct that they very rarely build bases, but I still think that having them build a landing pad for Thunderhawks to drop vehicles onto and then a teleport homer for zapping in Terminators (and other infantry) strikes the best balance between lore and gameplay.
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>>323442124
I remember when FO had huge anti-building damage for some reason, you could drop it on enemy base and rip it apart before they'd realize what hit them.
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>>323441653
>"Hey Gue'la, we give you technorogy if you join empire"
>"Thanks but no thanks. We've got industry of our own and can take care of ourselves."
>"You no want join empire, Gue'la? Then we kill you."

Yes, horrible and abhorrent.
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>>323442370
>"Hey Gue'la, we give you technorogy if you join empire"
They don't actually require you to join the Empire immediately, they can trade tech for other products of value. The idea is that eventually these guys will see how many cool things we have and realize that joining will get them more of that shit.
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>>323442517
Yeah, but what if the native population refuses to trade from the get go?
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>>323442565
They'll be conquered eventually and forced to join anyway. Not wiped out, mind you, but assimilated. Unless they're something like Orks - officially un-assimilatable.

Shall I remind you that that was how various empires worked during the entire course of human history? There's a reason we're talking in English now.
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>>323442282
Only if your opponent was a retard.

9 times out of 10 any competent player will just kill you in tier 1 when you cant do anything, unless they are toying with you for whatever reason.
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>>323442282

It was only against building_low which meant FO annihilated turrets and generators.

Plus their fear aura never was fixed - it stacks per enemy in range rather than being a flat rate so lasrge squads break faster than small ones against them.
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>>323442784
Exactly the point I was making, though. The Tau are not some ambassadors of peace, but brutal imperialists looking to expand their empire through any means necessary.

They only seem like the good guys because everyone else is several orders of magnitudes worse.
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i went into a GW once and i saw a 40yo man tell a 12yo that he couldn't use a figure because the rule book didn't allow it and he couldn't use his army either because the point system was dependent upon the figure he couldn't use
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>>323437640
>invade everyone, make them second class citizens in almost everything but name, secretly dispose of dissenters
>we da gud guys

Tau are objectively the most evil. Every other faction has some kind of a justified reason to invade others. The Tau lack it.
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>>323443045
>They only seem like the good guys because everyone else is several orders of magnitudes worse.

Whoa whoa whoa.....We're just trying to prevent Chaos sucking the universe into the Warp and fucking our souls forever.

Tau aren't any different in how horrible they are, they're just different on how they perform being that horrible. Such as forcing deals from the barrel of a gun, from using mind control and so on.
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>>323439618
If you like the core game, yes.
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>>323437640
>most humane
>tau
The most humane way to deal with any situation is the way the Imperium does because they are human. It doesn't matter what they do, by virtue of being human everything they do is humane.
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>>323441207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNc242mbiUs
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>>323442517
>The idea is that eventually these guys will see how many cool things we have and realize that joining will get them more of that shit.
Your average Imperial citizen (exluding Hive Worlds because they skew the numbers something fierce) probably has a quality of life comparable to us today, and the vast majority of them will never see a war in their lives.
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>>323442927

At high level play necrons were basically unusable against eldar 1v1. A bonesinger rush (don't forget to research wraithtomb) completely shutsn ecrons down and its basically impossible to recover from if the eldar player is especially fast (as they will delay the lord long enough).
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>>323443550
Eh. Imperium topped even Exterminatus after the Mont'ka Campaign by literally setting space on fire.
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>>323443607
>vast majority of them will never see a war in their lives.

fluff literally says that no world has been untouched by war.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUW8sBaacQI

Thread theme.
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>>323443045
It's 40k, peace comes only from superior firepower, and Tau are synonymous with "firepower".

>>323443184
>make them second class citizens in almost everything but name, secretly dispose of dissenters
Not canon. I mean fuck, Gue'la who join the Empire don't have to fight, they can live the rest of their lives being farmers and shit, driving comfy antigrav tractors and fuckign their Gue'la wives, while the blue-skinned men of Fire Caste (and some brave Gue'vesa, and Kroot mercenaries etc.) hold the line.

>>323443534
If we're being anal, Tau are a fictional creation of human mind and can be perfectly humane at that.

>>323443607
Yeah, let's conveniently exclude hive worlds, let's exclude feral worlds, let's exclude crazy worlds like fucking Krieg, let's exclude worlds with crazy and corrupt planetary Governors... Also, we were talking about a hypothetical Xeno world, anyway.
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>>323443728
A blatant lie. There are pleasure worlds where those rich enough to afford it go to spend their vacations.
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>>323443630
Yeah thats what im saying, Tau with vespids do a simmilar thing, just rush necrons in T1 and you auto win since necrons have such a slow start and are so reliant on scarabs/LP's.

Anyone calling necrons "OP" is an idiot who clearly has no idea how to play RTS games.
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>>323443728
If that was the case then the Imperium would already be dust on the solar winds.
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>>323443630
>>323443874
I never understood how this works. By the time my bonesinger or vespids get there he already has a warrior squad and he can easily get my unit especially if he gets the lord back. Which is not hard since it can teleport.
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>>323443840
>>323443942
Re-read what I said again. I didn't say the worlds were all fighting right at this moment, that just every world has been touched by war. Meaning there is no place safe to go.
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>>323443728
The fluff says that every planet is engaged in war.
Meaning even if the planet has never been invaded and is completely peaceful, their IG are fighting somewhere, or they produce tanks for the IG, etc.

>>323443820
And those humans who don't like being subservient to fucking Xenos just disappear. Convenient, ain't it.
And you can't disprove my claim of them being objectively the most evil m8. They have no need to assimilate or invade peaceful planets or races that just want to be left alone. Yet they do it, either economically or by force.
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>>323437316
Are they popular these days?
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>>323443820
I excluded Hive Worlds because their population is disproportionately large for how few of them there are. Most of the Imperium's worlds are classified as 'civilised', which means everything from modern day to Mass Effect style worlds where everything is futuristic and everyone has flying cars and shit.

All of the other types are much less common for varying reasons, and special cases like Krieg are incredibly rare. The reason they seem so common is because the setting is based around the wargame and thus focuses of war to the exclusion of all else; planets like Krieg and Armageddon naturally come to the forefront of that setting instead of podunk boring peace planet number #23468.
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>>323443820
>Peace comes only from superior firepower, and Tau are synonymous with "firepower".

Tau weapons are toys compared to what the Necrons have.
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>>323444279
XV95. 9 for mass and 5 for Stealth.
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>>323444316
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>>323444162

You had to be lightning quick with the bonesingers - they had to set off before you have completed the research otherwise you won't make it on most maps.

Plus most necron starting builds were 2-3 scarabs before the first warrior squad (or lord).
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>>323444363
>Weapons so silent that enemy only sees people getting blasted apart
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>>323444323
I want Tranzyn to collect all the Ethereals.
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>>323444214
Interesting. Is that the newest Tau codex? Can't find that in the newest one, and it directly contradicts some of the older fluff I know.
>And you can't disprove my claim of them being objectively the most evil m8.
Well, "evil" and "good" are objectively subjective, so I don't actually need to.
>They have no need to assimilate or invade peaceful planets or races
Survival, basically. 40k isn't an Universe where you can hole in a corner and mind your own business. You'll either be discovered by something like Tau (and assimilated) or something like every other major player race except for Eldars (and get annihilated without a choice).
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>>323435790
What is this suppose to prove?
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>>323444874
>Can't find that in the newest one
Meant "in the sixth one".
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>>323443942
they pretty much are
41st millenium is the end times, too bad gays workshop will never progress the storyline
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>>323444316

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Class_(planet)
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>>323441484
Nothing personnel git
*teleports behind your army*
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>>323445027
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>>323437729
Soulstorm campaign is fucking garbage. They ruined it by making 80% of the map goals to destroy everything. In DC every map had something unique to do.
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>>323443728
>fluff literally says that no world has been untouched by war.
That means nothing though. A war that was waged on a planet thousands of years prior doesn't mean the people living on it in the present will ever see a war.
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>>323445176
>>323445027
Sorry. Wrong one.
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>>323445176
what the hell
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>>323444162
Its literally not possible to get warriors and NL out in that time.

If you are doing bone singer rush teleport and tomb the HQ before he gets to build any warriors and its GG

Vespids you get a little more time, basically rush in and kill his workers use your cappers to take the points in his base and cripple him, if he gets warriors out vespids can beat them easy with sonic pulse, take out any generators with destabilization and its GG
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>>323445253
The Tithe Quota says most will.
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>>323444874
It's FFG, so it's dubious canon. But that's the only example of "you get removed silently if you dissent" I have saved.Altough my favorite one is from Pandorax, where some Fire Warrior fucks up a routine arrest and he just happens to be transferred to some fuck off planet full of Orks, where he and every soldier loyal to him get slaughtered.
>>323444874
>Survival, basically.
Tau could survive just by trading and assimilating willing races into their Empire. But they don't
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>>323445002
I can't see anything on there that contradicts what I said. It says Civilised Worlds are the most common and that their technology level varies. It also says that Hive Worlds have truly enormous populations, and that there are also very few of them (a mere 32,000 or so).
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>>323445286
Fucking kek
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>>323445449
>>323445176
This one I mean
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>>323444987
>too bad gays workshop will never progress the storyline

Look at WHFB and pray to the gods they don't.
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>>323415883
>play IG
>get raped by neckrons

how do i get not raped by neckrons
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>>323445653
Invest in plasma
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>>323445653
>play IG
>get nommed by Tyranids
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>>323444987
There's no point of of progressing the storyline, since the story is basically at its end-game. Most races are one step away from achieving total victory.
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>>323445618
40k is likely to be progressed, it has already. The Tau campaigns have progressed shit. IA13 has progressed shit.

It won't be an effectual reset like AoS was because 40k is GW's biggest seller and doesn't (or wasn't in the case of WHFB) losing them money hand over fists.
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>>323445360
MGSV, it got very stupid, theres a reason people hate it. Who cares about story shit the gameplay was fun
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>>323445416
>It's FFG, so it's dubious canon.
A-ha! I don't think there's anything like that in the actual codices. Then again, those are often considered to be written somewhat in-Universe so who knows.
>Tau could survive just by trading and assimilating willing races into their Empire.
They objectively can't, since it's a doomed Universe anyway. Besides, their Greater Good creed is fueling their expansion, as they believe it is their duty to spread it. They're kind of like British Empire, only it's a Blue Man's Burden instead of White Man's Burden. So I dunno, are you willing to argue British Empire in SPACE are more evil than Catholic Space Nazis?
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>>323445801
Did those lazy fucks finish that mod already?
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>>323445831
>WHFB
>Losing them money

Yeah, nah. Just not enough money compared to Spess Muhreens.
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>>323441416
>Dawn of Company of Heroes+

That's precisely why people hated DoW2. Everyone thought it was going to be CoH in the 40K universe, but instead it was a cut down version of CoH missing many of the features that made CoH great, and was some how a buggier unpolished mess. It also some how managed to be smaller scale than CoH.

But yeah if DoW2 was CoH in space it would have been rad, but it wasn't. It was a rushed tacticool RTS with horrible balance, bugs out the ass and a worse aesthetic than CoH.
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who /elitemod/ here?
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>>323445831
>IA13
What?
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>>323440460
That's super fucking creepy m8.
That is basically straight out of fair folk's guidebook on how to be creepy fuckers. Being impossibly, inhumanely beautiful does not cancel out being creepy.
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>>323445979
Fuck off /pol/ack.
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>>323427873
Most people play DoW1 without a mod, DoW2 with. The mod one doesn't count towards what you see in Steam.
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>>323446031
Yeah nah. Show me someone who is creepy and beautiful at the same time.
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>>323445979
>playing GK
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>>323446029
Imperial Armour 13. The fluff stated that Abaddon has launched his 13th Black Crusade and has broken through the Cadian Gate and is attacking the undefended planets beyond. The Ragnar Novel states that Cadia itself has fallen.

Thus, the story has progressed.

>>323446031
That's why things like this happens.
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>>323446287
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>>323446260
Whatever you say buddy.
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