After playing all three games in sequence, I can honestly say this is the worst combat I've ever had the misfortune of playing. I don't know if I will keep playing TW3... The combat is that bad.
for 10 fucking minutes because they throw you into areas at level 5 with level 15 enemies that take no damage from you.
First they turn the game into an AC clone, then they throw in this Dark Souls wannabe shit... What the fuck were they thinking?
Their game isn't anything like Dark Souls so I don't know why they would do this.
>because they throw you into areas at level 5 with level 15 enemies that take no damage from you.
Why are you fighting level 15 enemies when you're level 5
You're literally supposed to run from them
>You're literally supposed to run from them
Level 15 or level 5; it doesn't matter. Everything takes a million hits to kill and you just roll around until you get behind them and spam left click... Who could find this enjoyable?
The best gear you could get from White Orchard was the Viper gear, and right off the bat in the next area you do no damage to anything because everything is level 9-15 and you're level 5.
>Better than W2.
Doubtful. W2 had similar shitty combat, but at least the upgrades made it possible to deal enough damage that you could finish things in a few hits and be done with it... W3 and you're forced to spam left click a single enemy for minutes.
>Dark souls wannabe
Did you actually play any of these games, idiot.
>Level 15 or level 5; it doesn't matter.
Oh, so now they're all like that? Make up your mind. The combat is far from perfect, but it's another thing just being plain bad at it.
>Any rational person
>See quest or enemies in the distance with a much higher level than you
>Hmm, I better come back and deal with this later and stick with something closer to my level for now
>hurf durf why do these enemies 10 levels above me take so many hits to kill waah
Also you can't bump your own thread, retard.
>Also you can't bump your own thread, retard.
I can when I refresh my own IP, like I have been doing.
>Did you actually play any of these games, idiot.
Yes. The map looks like AC. The markers look like AC. The side quests ? shit is like AC. The game, even combat in some regards, is like AC. The "monsters do a lot of damage you need to spam dodge all the time or die" shit is just a ploy to get the Dark Souls audience.
>Oh, so now they're all like that? Make up your mind. The combat is far from perfect, but it's another thing just being plain bad at it.
>ur bad git gud LOL baddie
It doesn't matter because even enemies your level take a shit ton of hits to kill, and it's still all left click and dodge spam. The only difference is that level 15 enemies take 2 minutes instead of 1 minute to left click to death.
>have to be railroaded along the main quest until you get enough XP/gear to do all the other shit all over the map
>literally can't do anything but the main quest for 10 levels
not OP but why should you be fighting level 15 enemies at level 5? What is pacing, for 300, alex?
are you really trying to defend this game's abysmal combat? It was great for writing, dialogue, world creation, but if you think this game's 'video game mechanics' are good then you need to take a step back and look at a 2% chance to burn rune in the mirror.
You made this thread at a similar time 24 hours ago. Go lay down either underage American child or dirty Spider poster.
Did AC invent side quests or what?
>combat like AC
What the fuck are you talking about, AC is "press X to kill". And Dark Souls' feel is way different. A game where your enemies have health bars and requires you to dodge doesn't automatically make it DS.
Then tone down the difficulty or get better equipment. Yes, some enemies take a lot of hits to begin with, that's why you improve.
You're saying this as level 5? If start with the main quest, or even look near it, there's plenty of quests and enemies around that level, but obviously you have to be more careful to begin with.
Either drop the game now, or at least try to be smart about how you proceed in the game. It's really not that hard.
No one is forcing you to fight enemies 10 levels above you, double retard.
>Did AC invent side quests or what?
Nice job not paying attention to what I wrote. Are you really gonna tell me the one on the left looks nothing like the one on the right?
>What the fuck are you talking about, AC is "press X to kill".
TW3 is "press left click to kill."
>And Dark Souls' feel is way different. A game where your enemies have health bars and requires you to dodge doesn't automatically make it DS.
The dodge is just like Dark Souls, and the games weren't like this until TW2 decided to copy Demon's Souls.
>Then tone down the difficulty or get better equipment. Yes, some enemies take a lot of hits to begin with, that's why you improve.
The difficulty is on normal and I have the best equipment from the last area. Why am I facing enemies right off the bat where that equipment isn't good enough? Why am I facing such high level shit where I need to spam left click for minute(s) right off the bat?
>You're saying this as level 5? If start with the main quest, or even look near it, there's plenty of quests and enemies around that level,
This is the definition of railroad... I can't enjoy any of the sidequests because they all involve killing shit that is level 15. I have to do the main quest until at least level 12 to be able to do anything in this area.
>Either drop the game now, or at least try to be smart about how you proceed in the game. It's really not that hard.
The last two games weren't this shit.
Holy shit, get good. This game is easy as fuck if you're able to compare the number on the top right of your screen when you pause with that big number floating over the heads of everybody. Even on the hardest difficulty, combat becomes super fast.
>combat becomes super fast.
literally lies. not surprising coming from someone whose first response to someone complaining about combat being boring and shitty is "lol just get good"
just ignore the shit! if your ignore the bad parts it's good!
So there's this mechanic included in the game. You may have noticed that your character owns a horse. It's name is Roach. This is a very little known gameplay element, but you're actually capable of getting on the horse and going to other places. I know this radically changes the game, but if you search hard enough while on the horse you'll actually find that the game includes these things called quests!
Now, bear with me, because things get hard here. You'll have to push the stick in a direction and press a button. If you're able to pull off this complicated cheat code, you'll find that there are exclamation points with low level quests and small, easily cleared points of interest with XP and loot awards tens of seconds away from where you are now. It's a long time, I know, but the game has a slow burn like that.
Now that you know the pro secret strats encoded in the game by tricky developers, you should be able to cheat your way through the game by exploiting a gameplay bug called "Earning Experience Points" by the most hardcore players. If you're really, really advanced, you may even exploit the other largest bug, nicknamed "Learning the combat system".
Good luck, buddy!
>someone actually making a post like this without acknowledging how abysmal the horse controls are
again, TW3 has a lot of things going for it, but if you thing combat and horse mechanics are a part of them, then you really need to go to college or something because you are an idiot.
It's really not as bad as you're making it sound. About halfway through my first playthrough I was slaying just about everything. And now I'm playing on the hardest difficulty and it still isn't too bad if you take full advantage of signs, potions, decoctions, and oils. It can take some getting used to, but it definitely isn't bad. You actually probably should git gud though.
>About halfway through my first playthrough I was slaying just about everything.
>if you slug through 50hrs of shit then the rest of the game isn't as bad. not good, but it isn't as bad.
again, why are you defending this? by halfway through the game you will be level 30+ and have almost maxed out stats assuming you did side quests...
Oh, I see, you've run into a common snag in this highly advanced technique. Never fear; it happens to everyone.
Now, I'm not sure you were aware, but the game devs included a secret mechanic to actually turn the camera. Not only this, but they even included an option to actually change the direction your character is facing! By exploiting this speedrunning strat, you can actually go to different areas in the game and do the quests and Points of Interest there.
This may be beyond the point of your comfort zone. It's unknown if the developers intended this traveling glitch, but the presence of low level content throughout the world indicates that it may be a feature scrapped late in development or just an Easter egg hidden by a particularly rambunctious developer.
the combat in witcher 3 is merely adequate like the cover-based shooting in uncharted or something
why do you guys have autism about it, it's standard fare
does it feel bad? feels okay
is ti fun to slice guys up? yeah sometimes
can the ai be shitty and the balance be bad? yeah
it's just generic holy fuck so shut up
Enemies same level as you don't take that many hits to die.
If the enemy has a lot of health then don't fight it until later on, there is plenty to do you won't run out of things to do if you skip few mobs here and there.
>it's just generic holy fuck so shut up
because i shouldn't be forced to choose between
>play the main quest until you're high enough level for this area we put you in that was too high level for you to begin with
>spam left click and space for minutes at a time to kill these monsters leveled much higher than you so you can get the gear that will allow you to kill them in 45 seconds instead of 1.5 minutes
No actually though, are you retarded? Read the signboards and look around for ten seconds. There are level five quests all around the starting area and level six or seven quests from the Nilfgaard camp to Novigrad. Alternatively, advance the story by meeting the Bloody Barron and you'll find four or five branching questlines immediately after that are all for your level range. If you literally refuse to look around, you won't find anything.
If the side quests are too high level for you, do the main quests. If the main quests become too high level for you, do any side quests you've missed. It's not rocket science.
I actually ran into the problem of the game having too many sidequests, I was constantly over-leveled and the main quests were too easy, even on maximum difficulty. Had to put the side quests off until later.
there's an embarrassment of riches in terms of side quests and random encounters in the witcher 3, it shouldn't be particularly difficult or unpleasant for you to go around looking into some of the smaller stories taking place in the world to get some more experience and equipment
The entire Uncharted series is
>sense of Indiana Jones style adventure
He's saying that just because one aspect isn't absolutely perfect you can still enjoy the game if you get over your autism. Or the game just isn't for you and you should just stop playing it.
the entire game isn't combat, it's exploration, detective work, build making, economy doing, and magic the gathering
there's more cover shooting in uncharted than there is combat in the witcher pound-for-pound
>Read the signboards and look around for ten seconds.
>go kill a bunch of level 12 alghouls
>go kill a bunch of level 10 drowners
>go kill a bunch of level 15 edregas
>There are level five quests all around the starting area and level six or seven quests from the Nilfgaard camp to Novigrad.
Where? They're not on the signboards.
>Alternatively, advance the story by meeting the Bloody Barron and you'll find four or five branching questlines immediately after that are all for your level range.
>just stop doing the points of interests and side quests! just do the main quest for 10 levels! that's what the devs intended!
It's ridiculous that this is actually a defense for this game.
maybe i'll just enable the console and turn on 1 hit kills or something.
that post is:
>ignore the fact that you can't do anything but the main quest and some unmarked side quests
>do the main quest
>or walk around and look everywhere for the unmarked side quests that are your level, of which there are few
nobody cares you faggots, post concise reasons for why you like or dislike things that have nothing to do with what you ate for breakfast this morning and then you may have earned the right to talk about yourself when the discussion warrants it
>there are fucking loads of unmarked quests, like the amount of content is nothing short of excessive and bordering on unnecessary
i hardly encountered any in the first area, and hardly any in the next area either while i was running around doing points of interest with too high level enemies.
but the last two games were enjoyable, less so with the second one, but not anywhere near as bad as this.
>i hardly encountered any in the first area, and hardly any in the next area either
What? They didn't put all of the content in the very beginning of the game? What kind of madness is this?!
>I like the combat in Witcher 3. It's fun.
I also like the combat in Witcher 3. It is nothing special but it is enough for me to enjoy the game. The best part of the game is the characters and they have nothing to do with the combat.
We aren't talking about the previous games anon, we're talking about this one, the one you don't like, the one that you seem to hate so much I'm surprised you're still playing it.
Once you get to Velen you open the map and look fo any nearby yellow exclamation marks. You go to those and take everything from the noticeboards. You now have several quests to do. This occurs in dozens of places.
>or walk around and look everywhere for the unmarked side quests that are your level, of which there are few
>just follow the railroad dude what the fuck are you complaining about???
So now you're complaining the game doesn't hold your hand. Huh.
>Obviously you aren't enjoying it. So stop playing and play something you like rather than obstinately refusing to follow advice.
or i could just cheat and make the combat not shitty by doing a reasonable amount of damage. still doesn't excuse the devs for making it so shitty in the first place, though.
>What? They didn't put all of the content in the very beginning of the game? What kind of madness is this?!
again, what content? I rode around Velen for probably 1hr and only ran into 2 quests.
shut the fuck up, nobody gives a shit about what some anon thinks in a board with a low quality standard of discussion, for all we know you could be like any other brain damaged retard and no intrigue or insight can be gleamed from anything you say
VELEN SIDE QUESTS
A Dog's Life
A Favor for a Friend
A Greedy God
A Towerful of Mice
An Invitation from Keira Metz
Contract: Jenny o' the Woods
Contract: Missing Brother
Contract: Mysterious Tracks
Contract: Phantom of the Trade Route
Contract: Swamp Thing
Contract: The Merry Widow
Contract: The Mystery of the Byways Murders
Contract: Woodland Beast
Death by Fire
Defender of the Faith
For the Advancement of Learning
Ghost of the Past
Gwent: Velen Players
Harassing a Troll
Man's Best Friend
Patrol Gone Missing
Races: Crow's Perch
Return to Crookback Bog
Scavenger Hunt: Griffin School Gear
The Fall of the House of Reardon
The Truth is in the Stars
Treasure Hunt: An Unfortunate Turn of Events
Treasure Hunt: A Costly Mistake
Treasure Hunt: Blood Gold
Treasure Hunt: Hidden From the World
Treasure Hunt: Lost Goods
Treasure Hunt: Out of the Fryinig Pan, Into the Fire
Treasure Hunt: Sunken Chest
Treasure Hunt: Sunken Treasure
Treasure Hunt: The Things Men Do For Coin...
Treasure Hunt: Tough Luck
Wild at Heart
>or 10 fucking minutes because they throw you into areas at level 5 with level 15 enemies that take no damage from you.
That's more of a problem with the godawful level system that the game has for some unexplicable reason
>kill monsters and do quests suitable for your lvl
you said there's no content because you supposedly only ran into two quests
if you want to discuss how many quests are for killing level 5-6 monsters I'm happy to do so, but first you have to admit that there's plenty of content in in velen and you must just be retarded or something for only being able to find two quests
but it's not even just quests you should be doing, there are plenty of points of interest which are fine for your level as well
If the enemy is more than 5 levels higher than you you'll do a miniscule amount of damage with every hit. The moment you're within 5 levels you can kill something without thinking. As far as systems go it simply means some areas are meant to be harder than others. It's not awful, that's reserved for the scaling item loot which is already worthless compared to all Witcher gear and the excessive amount of money you'll get without trying.
>but it's not even just quests you should be doing, there are plenty of points of interest which are fine for your level as well
i did 12 points of interest when i first got to velen, and not one of them was suitable for my level.
>you said there's no content because you supposedly only ran into two quests
many of the ones you posted are from the notice board or points of interest. i was clearly talking about unmarked quests.
It's basically a really fucking awful substitute for putting thought into your progression and level design
All the open world/rpg systems are equally awful in the game
It's very odd since the rest of the worlddesign, as in the graphics, the characters, many sidequests, the mainstory, the dialogue and so on are so good. It's like they spent 99% of their resources on that and had only 1% left for the rpg/leveldesign aspects
>i was clearly talking about unmarked quests.
That was not made clear at any point in this thread. You simply made it sound as if you were too retarded to find any noticeboards.
>you just need to git gud if you seriously just spam left-click and dodge. there is nothing more to add.
there are no other game mechanics besides occasionally pressing Q to throw a spell or middle click to throw a bomb. The vast majority of combat is pressing left click and space.
I know for a fact that as soon as you get to velen some guy asks you to collect shit from corpse monsters, another guy wants help looking around a battlefield, and some merchant wants you to help the guy looking around a battlefield
not only that, but to the northwest and north as soon as you load into the map from the tree with people hanging off it there are a couple of bandit camps
there's also a quest for picking up statues so the game can reference nietzsche and side shit with your witch friend
which part can't you read?
>>there are fucking loads of unmarked quests, like the amount of content is nothing short of excessive and bordering on unnecessary
>i hardly encountered any in the first area, and hardly any in the next area either while i was running around doing points of interest with too high level enemies.
>I know for a fact that as soon as you get to velen some guy asks you to collect shit from corpse monsters, another guy wants help looking around a battlefield, and some merchant wants you to help the guy looking around a battlefield
No one asked me to do that. As soon as I got to Velen I went to 2 notice boards, found out all the quests were way too high level, and then started doing points of interest, which were also too high level.
the only thing my level right now is the main quest.
cdpr has never given a shit about the RPG elements in their games. in witcher 2 they only give you what, like 35 skill points total out of 100 something you need to max out the board? they don't give you enough gold and silver talents in the first one, either.
Did you go to the town you literally fucking spawn right in front of when you enter Velen? That has a level 7 quest involving a werewolf and a non-noticeboard quest nearby involving a priest and corpse eaters. The priest quest leads you to another quest area.
>No one asked me to do that. As soon as I got to Velen I went to 2 notice boards, found out all the quests were way too high level, and then started doing points of interest, which were also too high level.
alright, confirmed retard
"I went to the noticeboards and the quests were too high for me, so then I wandered around the map and got annoyed when I found high level locations even though I just got to a massive open environment that's obviously going to keep me here for a while"
why didn't you try looking around the little town it starts you right next to, or at least going in the direction of some quests you came to velen with? wait, I'll answer for you: you're stupid
>Did you go to the town you literally fucking spawn right in front of when you enter Velen? That has a level 7 quest involving a werewolf
Didn't find it. Wasn't on the notice board. Didn't see any exclamations or important people, so I left to go do the points of interest and get better gear.
> non-noticeboard quest nearby involving a priest and corpse eaters.
You mean the one where you have to fight level 10-11 ghouls and rotfiends at level 5, and protect a bunch of NPCs from them? Or the one where you go burn a bunch of corpses?
Yeah the burning one was my level. 1 out of a shit ton more that aren't, and it was only by chance that I ran across the guy since it's a non-notice board quest.
>just do the main quest!! just do it until you can do the other stuff we spawned you near and expected you to ignore!
>>just do the main quest!! just do it until you can do the other stuff we spawned you near and expected you to ignore!
I didn't say do the main quest, I said you should at least set out by sticking to the areas you're expected to go to first so that you can find some content which will level you up and take you to other level appropriate content
what you apparently did was find a few quests that are too high for you, and then out of stupidity or wanting to prove how much the game sucks you just started wandering around the map
what did you think you'd find? you're level 5 and if you found quests that are way too high for you surely that should be a clue that you're going to be in this area for a while
let's say you found a level 17 quest, so that right there should tell you that there's a good chance that you might into content that's at least three times your level
are you really seeking attention that much, boy?
why don't you shove your "original" opinion your ass and keep continue?
>he never thought of using axii to make a motherfucker attack another motherfucker
>he never thought of upgrading Quen sign to make the attacker's attack bounce attack right back to the attacker killing him instantly
>he never though of upgrading bombs to make them spread explosions and make it look like a meteor shower.
>he never tried to ride on a horse while slashing enemies. OR shoot arrows.
OP you are full of shit.
I'm literally doing stuff in Velen right now and I can tell you you're full of shit, probably shitposting anyway.
I'm on Death March to boot and nothing gives me a problem unless it's a huge group of Level 7-8+'s vs me whose level 5
>worst rng than dice poker
now i definitely know you are full of shit