>>323400770 I had fun co-oping it with my roommate. It's not as fun solo though which is why I don't think it's great as it could be. And yeah sometimes the writing's a bit much but I think people on /v/ take it way out of proportion
It was fun and it had traces of good polished character writing in it but most of it was ruined with A - Shitty in your face memes B - The attempt to CREATE shitty in your face memes C - Difficulty being entirely reliant on the health of the enemy.
Graphically it was very pleasing and the guns were fun. I like Diablo style loot systems and I liked the visual style of the Borderlands series.
I think it would be a much better series if another company were in charge.
I feel like if they had slightly more believable gun designs like practical looking irons...magazines that aren't wheels etc it would go a long way in making the guns look "cooler", there's nothing wrong with having outlandish weapons designs but at least have them make sense...you can't hold ammunition inside a fucking bicycle wheel or aim with a weapon that only has a front sight post. That and forcing each manufacturer to have a mandatory gimmick really hurt the enjoyability for me, Hyperion sniper rifles being the most egregious offenders.
>>323405439 Even the shittiest most broken games are fun with friends, it shouldn't be a valid point of praise for any game. Anything in the world could be fun with friends. Dying is fun with friends. Eating literal shit is fun with friends. That's the point of friends.
Okay let's say you need to damage an enemy. Slagging them makes your other weapons do more damage. So what do you look for in a slag weapon? A high slag chance. You don't need any other stat than that because you are just going to switch out of your slag weapon and into your primary damage weapon. Once you find a high slag chance weapon every other slag weapon in the game is inferior. 1/4th of all elemental weapons in the game can spawn with a slag element. Therefore, 1/4th of all elemental weapons are completely useless.
>>323406989 Maliwan SMGs shoot bullets, it's just that bullets in Borderlands aren't hitscan (which is pretty cool) and have unrealistically low travel speeds. Also all Maliwan SMGs are elemental and elemental bullets have element-colored tracers.
And Jakobs' wheels... I dunno, they look distinct and striking. I do wish high-level Jacobs guns looked less gaudy, though. Less gold, more high quality wood and polished metal, maybe with some engravings too.
Even though the game is all about tons of different types of guns, there werent really all that many unique variants of guns, and it upset me. Fuck they even got rid of the two most fun gun types from 1, the shotgun revolver and long range shotguns with like 75 accuracy.
The skill system also kind of sucks. Too many boring %increases to certain shit and not enough unique bonuses from skills.
>>323407206 Bullets or not, they look semi-convincing which is all I really ask.
And on closer inspection that Jakobs looks like it has another horizontal wheel magazine, it's like they just randomly slapped shit onto it without any regard for form or function, it detracts from the overall design IMO.
>>323400770 The new gun system was shit Too many bullet sponges No way to make your own/improve your fav weapon is retarded The entire game was easy as fuck The writting was some of the worst in any vidya to ever come out
>>323400770 Story was okay. Classes were okay. Gameplay was okay. Gun variety was shit. Especially melee options. The grind was even worse than BL1. Humor was mostly shit. Weapon balance was garbage. New Game+ is some of the most retarded shit I've seen in a game.
>>323408142 >best shooter of said period That's Serous Sam 3.
>>323408373 Hyperion shotguns are stupidly accurate after like the second shot and they spawn with good mags. Even better if you play Gunzerker and take skills that give you free shots and refill magazine. I had a 8-shot acid Hyperion shotgun and I could get like 20 shots out of it while gunzerking.
I do miss Mashers though, probably the only thing I do miss from 1. They were too good for this world.
>>323408448 Even rocket launchers didn't do that much damage up close, not that I minded because the other weapons were so completely shit in comparison that if we didn't have the Harold the game's flaws would be compounded that much more.
It started fairly well, a nice comfy snow zone. Then you start leveling and noticing enemies are becoming bullet sponges. The scaling is tremendously bad. Then you start fighting the robots over and over and over.
>>323407206 >unrealistically low travel speeds. holy shit, some player projectiles move at walking speed. meanwhile, bullet sponge enemies jitter around the screen, disregarding every law of physics. it's the shittiest artificial difficulty. borderlands is a shit game/skinnerbox
I really hate how they gutted elemental damage in the 2nd game too, elemental damage just became a rock-papers-scissors choice depending on what enemy type you happened to be facing instead of being a cool damage modifier AND a tactical choice based on enemy type.
>>323409530 1 had some okay ones if you were Roland, particularly machineguns. But overall ARs kind of suck in BL. It's weird, it's like a reverse generic shootan - shotguns and revolvers rule, ARs suck.
>>323409530 This TbH. Dahl sucked ass and had no damage and torgue ones had 6 shots in a mag and could miss if you didn't have vel0city maxed. SMGs out did them in every fucking way The only one I found suitable to use wasn't even made for shooting bullets, it was the 200% stab damage for holding it while you melee
>>323400770 Enemies are way too bullet spongey. I found playing as anyone but zer0 to be boring. Although i havent played as everyone. Humor was hit and miss, which was very bad when half of the quests are centered around something "humorous". The lack of the ability to max out two skill trees is shitty.
>>323411759 I see.. But why do you mention Gaige in particular? Does she make the weapon even more broken with a skill or something? I only beat the game on vanilla days and just got the goty ver in the last sale, starting a new game as her
>>323412459 I actually cannot. Claptrap was kinda sad funny, and actually a bit real funny on your way to go kill jack near the end of the main story, but that bitch won't be missed, and her DLC didn't redeem her at all. Just one example is that when you meet her, she's got a bandit/psycho tied up somehow and then she just blows him up. It's never explained how she got him there even though when you get the quest to make sure her tea party goes uninterrupted, the "guest" is tazed at the entrance to the cave, which is never explained how it got there, and I doubt it could stop more than one person at a time which psychos dont travel alone Seriously, fuck her.
>>323412935 I only found it ironically funny that they tried to have her talk ghetto without uttering the words "nigga" or "bitch". It was like watching an awkward white guy trying to fit in with his black co-workers.
>>323413298 >krieg If he was more than PRESS F AND THEN GO CUT THINGS UNTIL THEY'RE DEAD RINSE AND REPEAT UNTIL ELDER GOD I would play him, not that PRESS F AND THROW KUNAI AND THEN DIE AND THEN RESPEC AND DIE SOME MORE is any better
Is Unf0reseen even worth the skill points? I'm level 57, and just tried it with a class mod that gave it a total of skill level 8, and it did a whopping 50k damage to a snowman. Granted, a RESIST popped up, but I'm still thinking those 5 points could be spent better otherwise.
Both games should have had waypoints closer to bosses, the game's grindy enough without forcing you to run the gauntlet every time you want to farm a different boss, that on top of what is an already very grindy series really killed the enjoyment of farming for me.
Fucking loved it, raged at times, but loved it. The fact that every weapon there is randomized (over 80 billion possibilities I think) and the fact that there are shitloads of ways you can kill your opponent is just amazing. Also, the fact that the game is set in a negative atmosphere, the NPCs and characters still are filled with humour. Although I wish there were even more characters to play with.
Decided to marathon the series and going from BL1 to this was jarring, it just wasn't as fun as I remember. might drop the series for a while BL2 guns just aren't as memorable, and I'm still not happy about Eridian weapons being taken out. >Thunderstorm, Pestilent Defiler and the Combustion Hellfire were the shit
>>323415439 >combustion hellfire As a brother to a Lilith player, I resent this gun. It does so much damage that I, a Roland player, could never get any of my passives to activate because I could never get kills. But I also have heard Roland was the worst, so that could have affected it.
Pretty fun Co-Op, but it devolves into a study of artificial difficulty come TVHM and beyond. Also while I don't mind "agenda pushing" or being presented with ideas that challenge how I think or with which I outright disagree with, Burch's SJW pandering is downright cringeworthy. At no point does he present an idea in a way that is in any way subtle or thought compelling. It's literally all "you're supposed to think this way, by the way this dialogue has zero context to what's going on and came out of nowhere."
>>323415880 Hey man, fuck you and your reasonable opinions. I came to /v/ to argue, not have reasonable discourse! >>323416004 >worst character Who are: >Claptrap >Tiny Tina >Angel >Tannis I don't even like lilith but cmon dude
>mister torgue's campaign of carnage >"I WAS WRESTLING A SHARK WEARING A BOLO TIE WHEN I SHOULD'VE BEEN SETTING UP SPONSORS. IF YOU WERE GOING TO ASK WHO WAS WEARING THE BOLO TIE, ME OR THE SHARK, THE ANSWER IS YES!"
I've played all of them plus Tales, and I have a love/hate relationship with the series.
My biggest gripes with BL2/TPS are: -weapons drops are mostly terrible. Manufacturer traits make some weapons useless. -unskippable dialogue that halts your progression. It may be amusing the FIRST time, but for a game that's expected to the played multiple times it gets tedious really fast. -TVHM and UVHM aren't fun, they're just bullet sponge hells.
If you fixed those issues I think the games would be great
>>323418894 Also the humor is really hit or miss. Most of it is cringeworthy SJW shit - I remember one part in Assault on Dragon's Keep where one guy said "Go away, I'm trying to objectify Moxxi, I mean come on.
Then there are some really amusing ones like the claptraps in TPS
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