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So it's going to suck right?
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Duh.
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>>323341745
played it and it doesn't suck. Although my view isn't tainted by having 3000 hours in CS:GO or TF2.

Hopefully it does well, it is pretty fun.
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>>323341745
it's made for consoles so it's gonna suck on PC
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>>323342632
what does that mean?
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>>323343503
It means that the tickrate is stupidly low and they're trying to claim it's an "artistic choice" the same way console devs claimed 30fps was somehow better for gaming.
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>muh tickrate meme

no one gives a fuck, blizz games are made to be addictive and fun and not to be tryhard bullshit
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>>323343770
...
I don'T know what tick rate is
My guess is that it's how often the server captures your position?
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>>323343976
How often there's an update between client and server per second.
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>>323341745
20 TICK
0

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>>323343398
So it needs 50 button controls and fighting combos to use abilities?
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>>323343920

This is also the same game where they were originally going to have the FOV setting locked until almost everyone ever collectively told them that was goddamned retarded and they changed it (somewhat, last I'd heard).

Blizzard doesn't seem to have a single fucking clue what they're doing and are more than likely cashing in on whatever consumer good will and blind fanboyism they can to carry the game, rather than actually good game design.
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>>323343976
Yes, it basically means everyone moves around at 5 fps.

Enjoy your jerkfest, blizzdrones.
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Mists of Pandaria
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Why they didnt just make it higher tickrate? Cant be that difficult.
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>>323341745
if you keep beating that idea in your head, it will
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>>323344336
People who playtested the game didn't seem to complain.
Even Dunkey didn't even mention it.
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>>323344336
But he says they have a high tickrate
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>>323344475
Its nit actually 20, its just a meme
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Blizzard:
>Heroes of the Storm is broken on newer cards, dropping down to 20-30 fps
>Dozens of posts on the forums about it, complaints. Multiple posts with more than 5 pages.

From them, I barely expect things to work or function right. The fact that they want to make this game have an esports community is laughable. Have fun with your 10,000 pool prize.
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>>323343976
You know how in TF2 you can shoulder-peak rockets and grenades onto sentries so you don't get hit? If you try that in Overwatch you will get shot at by the sentry anyway, even if you were there for .1 second because the servers counts you as being there for like 1 second.
You played the beta, right? If you did, did you ever Dash through someone as Tracer only to die anyway, and the killcam shows you dying before you dashed? That's 20 tick.
Did you play Widowmaker and get lodes a headshots even though you can't snipe for shit? That's 20 tick.
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It's fun.
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Don't know why some anons here are demanding it be an ultra competitive CSGO like game. Not like any of you actually play that trash anyways, and for good reason. It's actually unfun to play ultra competitive games.

So I'll just keep enjoying OW.
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>>323344292
a d d i c t i n g
is all blizz is aiming for, with all of their games, and they know how to do that, they got the experience
good thing is addicting games can also be very fun
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>>323344894
>So I'll just keep enjoying literal shit.

ftfy
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>>323344894
>It's actually unfun to play ultra competitive games.
Is that why Dota 2 and CS:GO are the top played games on Steam? Because they are unfun?
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>>323345084
Nah, it's because people get autistically invested into it. Some people just want to lay back, and play a game.
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>>323345203
>It's not that they are good, it's because of autism
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>>323344686
Sounds like being forced to play with high ping.
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>>323345084

dota 2 is shit, and the community is shit

cs:go is filled with horseshit people, and people who think twitch shooting and repetitive shit is fun

no thx
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>>323345084
>dota2 and csgo
>games you can get rich just playing them
>thinks people play for "fun"
yep anon u got me my point was disproven woopsie doopsie
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>>323345340
Bullet spread.
Toxic community.
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>>323345203
You'll never be able to make a living off of playing casual non-competitive trash.
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>>323345398
>>323345443
>Buzzwords
>>323345430
How is getting rich not a plus? Valve games pretty much pay for themselves.

Blizzard just jews you, Overwatch is going to be worse than WoW and HotS in that department.
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>>323345084
> autists try to becone MLG PRO GAYMERS
> thatd PROOF that this gane is fun!!!

I think fighting games are the most fun and they are the MOST competitive genre though
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>>323345430
weew laddie I guess nobody plays football for fun

or baseball

or basketball

or any sport for that matter.
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>>323345734
Yeah because HotS is so successful by being casual garbage right?
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>>323345629
>Thinking you can make a living off competive sports.
>Thinking it's the rule.
Bet you also think living in your mum's basement is fine living.
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So the thing with the tick rate in Overwatch is it's not as much of an issue as in CSGO, if CSGO had 20 ticks it would be unplayable, because hit detection is handled differently. In Overwatch it favors the guy shooting while it's the opposite in CSGO. So as a casual game it's much better, if you aim at someone's head and shoot you will hit 100% of the time, which is definitely not the case in CSGO.
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>>323345684
>not a plus
It's the main incentive to play. Overwatch has absolutely zero financial incentive to play right now, and therefore those that ARE playing it, are doing it because it's pure fun. There isn't even any progression mechanics, but these are going away because normies can't stand not being given a treat every 5 minutes.
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>>323345891
HoTS didn't fuck up just from casual, it fucked up because cash shop.
Casual does not equate to being bad, it just means easier.
Hardcore does not equate to being good, it just means it's harder.
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>>323345993
There is an incentive. Sunken cost fallacy.
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>>323345891
Did you reply to the wrong person or are you autistic?
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>>323345684

except it's not buzzwords you cunt

dota 2 is literally at the assend of moba communities.

I installed it last week, and when I tried to deny a creep, and accidentally hit the other for a last hit instead of the carry I got pinged repeatedly, and presumably sworn at in peruvian dingdong language.

Then a russian game, then a game filled with the utmost retarded people I've ever met that didn't understand even how their dick works, or that shit comes from their asshole.

CS:GO? Hah. It's got great things behind it, but the crates, the skins bullshit. I've had people come in a ranked match just to try and find someone to trade with. It's usually always kids, too, and I was at MG2 so it wasn't -that- bad, but not amazing.

They're both fairly bad games filled with a community of shit.
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>>323345993
>Zero financial incentive.
So your pretty much being Blizzard?
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>>323346146
Yep the sunken cost does apply, it's less of an active incentive and more of a subconscious one though.

>>323346263
>So your pretty much being Blizzard?
I'm trying to work out what you're trying to say.
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>>323346459
You pretty much said that CS and Dota 2's main incentive to play is because you can make back your money and then some, not because it has good gameplay.
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>>323344589
>paid shills didn't complain
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>>323341745
It's pretty fun actually. I got in the beta and I've been playing a bit. Characters are all different enough from each other that encounters are fun and make use your head as you have to figure out what would be the best action to take against their char. Personally my fav character is Genji just for the cyborg ninja part and he's really fun to play too. My biggest complaint would be the short respawn time. The spawn time is about three seconds long so if you're in the last part of the a capture the area it becomes a really huge chore to keep enemies away from it. I'll buy it, not for 40 bucks, but 20 bucks is reasonable.
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dumbed down console shit for the idiot wow playerbase
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>CS:GO costs $15, can make you millions just playing it
>Overwatch costs $60, get absolutely nothing out of it

The choice should be obvious.
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20 tick? Man even Rainbow Six:Siege just increased their tickrate from 30 to 60.
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>>323346740
This, both games are shit.
Their only popular because they can make you vidya money to buy other vidya on steam. It's why everybody sucks and is so toxic, it's pretty much their game funds.
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>>323344589
>an autistic meme youtuber
>valid opinion
Choose one
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Mei is cute! CUTE!
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>>323346992
>CS:GO costs $15, can make you millions just playing it
I don't have a fedora big enough for that but I'll try.
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>>323346740
Yep. There's absolutely zero chance people are playing the games for longer than a month because of "good gameplay". They're doing it for financial gain and/or gambling.
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>>323347221
>There's absolutely zero chance people are playing the games for longer than a month because of "good gameplay". They're doing it for financial gain and/or gambling.
That's pretty much what I just said.
Even if the game was good, which it isn't, most will play just for dosh.
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>>323346253
You sound like the sort of guy who sucks dick at multiplayer games so he dismisses them as shit and not worth your time.
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>>323347332
didn't even know this was a thing in dota and csgo. more the reason to never touch them
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Starcraft - leading RTS
WoW - leading MMORPG
Diablo - leading ARPG
Hearthstone - leading Cardgame
Overwatch - ???

well you decide
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>>323347492
leading in all dead genres

amazing.
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>>323347492
WoW killed the MMORPG
RTS is a dead genre too
Doesnt matter that 5million people who re mostly asians/ bots and western with their wow tokens play that dead warcraft game
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Obvious weaknesses that will hamper the game:

>low skill ceiling and casual pandering mechanics
>garbage match making system ported straight from HotS
>no private servers or modding tools which are CRUCIAL features that would tenfold the longevity of the game and build a community around it
>horribly low tickrate
>no ladders at launch
>pricepoint high enough to shove fence sitters away
>consolitis
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>>323348275
>low skill ceiling and casual pandering mechanics
Care to explain why it's skill ceiling is low?
>garbage match making system ported straight from HotS
Evidence please?
>no private servers or modding tools which are CRUCIAL features that would tenfold the longevity of the game and build a community around it
Of course there isn't, the game is still in fucking beta.
Who the fuck is going to join a private server when the player community is so low?
>horribly low tickrate
Actually a problem, needs fixing.
>no ladders at launch
Who gives a shit?
>pricepoint high enough to shove fence sitters away
Keeps slavs and autistic children out. Remove kebab.
>consolitis
Yeh cause PC mustard race roight?
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>>323344292
I mean look at how bad Diablo 3 and wow are now. BliZard has become EA but more jewish and liberal
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>>323348275
>low skill ceiling
lol no, sorry but the game is deceiving in that aspect.

The rest of your points are actually trash outside of tickrates (can be adjusted anyways). I highly recommend spending less time on reddit and having your opinions formed by the same spergs who ruined Tribes.
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>>323349107
are you talking about the NA version of d3 because it has no cash shop?
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>>323344473
Was actually a good expansion
>>323346253
This is why I quit dota, if you get South Americans as teammates it's not worth playing. Valve needs to quarantine those apes
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>>323347492
Rts isn't a real category anymore
Poe is better than d3, and blizzard lies about Diablo sales numbers
WoW is still the best but will be shit until they get new devs
Hearthstone is actually decent although very p2w
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>>323348798
>>no ladders at launch
>Who gives a shit?

casul detected
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>>323349432
D3 vanilla was bad but better than the current aids fest of ros.

They did to uniques in Diablo what they did to legendaries in wow. Some people definetly like it, but they usually aren't loyal for more than a week or 2

How many people play Diablo 3 2 months into a season?
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>>323349857
IMO it's the fact that they got eaten up by Activision which made WoW worse.
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>>323350007
Most aren't going to play it for it's competitive scene anyway, so why should you even care if there's no ladders?
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Tracer is fast, but she doesn't look so fast
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>>323350326
Because it adds a significant number of players to the pool that have the desire to play competitively to improve themselves with respect to others. It's like a progression system, it keeps you coming back to be 'better'.

Not to mention esports fuckery
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>>323350738
>Not to mention esports fuckery
It's going to be forced anyway, so ladders will be added in later as well if their that fucking important.
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People who are actually anticipating this garbage are the cancer killing video games.
Blizzard doesn't deserve a cent of your money or a second of your time.

It's time to tell those faggots where they can get off.
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>>323350914
>if their that fucking important.
of course they are you dipshit, literally every other Blizzard game has competitive ranking systems, 4/5 of their games have / in the past have had tournaments with prize pools hosted by Blizzard
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I played it.
It's literally TF2 with some really boring, stupid ass classes. It's not too bad, but it's like your favorite pizza got stale and somebody did his best to make it edible again and also make it more presentable than it originally was.
Most of the classes are pretty fucking bad and the only thing to them is that they each rely on a gimmick
If you want to play an FPS game just get CS:GO. It's literally the only one worth playing that isn't fotm shit that will die within weeks (like R6 Siege will). If you want something fun and not serious bigboy shit just get TF2.
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>>323341745
I'm not in the beta yet, but I'll admit that I'm excited for this game. I've watched several videos, and my biggest complaint from watching is the HUD. It needs to be customizable by some measure.

This ticrate issue is something I actually hadn't heard yet, and does sound like a legitimate gripe; especially if you're looking at it from a competitive perspective.
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>>323351506
I've been playing TF2 on and off since beta. The game is practically ruined (Valve should create a competitive mode, tweak the classes base weapon stats, and make competitive only base weapons IMO).
CSGO isn't even the same sub genre of game, and honestly I'd rather play Unreal 4 if we're talking deathmatch, which is basically what CSGO is (bomb planting is WAY more utilized than rescue, and both are by and large secondary objectives).
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The only people who actually expect this to go anywhere except DOA are hardcore Blizzfags who still play the abomination that is Diablo 3.

I'm going to be taking a break from /v/ for a few days once this shit comes out, because once this fails a timebomb of autistic neckbeards and BBT-tier normalfags are going to shitpost hard
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>>323352921
Did you leave when MGS5 bombed? That was a fun ride.
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>>323345371
Can't imagine how shitty it will be for Australians.
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>>323352921
>Blizzard made 1 bad game so now all of their games are doomed to fail because I said so
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It's pretty whatever

I don't think I'll keep playing it past the beta
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>>323353195
Even if I did, I still would have had that collective feel I had inside of me
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>>323353375
It's been a downward trend since SC2. Name one game since that hasn't been a flop.
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>>323353375
>one bad game
I don't know,
WoW and SC2 killed their respective genres, and HotS is budget DOTA.

The only decent thing so far was Hearthstone, and thats only good as a timekiller mobile game
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>>323353524
SC2
Hearthstone
D3 ROS
HOTS
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>>323353692
Hearthstone is the only game that wasn't a flop, since it cost absolutely no money to make and cashed-in on the app game bubble.

Everything else failed.
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>>323353880
>I didn't play these games so they're failures

OK chief, pretty much the only recent failures by Blizz have been the most recent WoW expansions
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>>323354118
D3 was a failure that mostly sold on the popularity of its predecessor. Sure in it's current state it is less terrible than it was at launch, but it's still a bad game.
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>>323354118
SC2 is dead.
D3 is dead.
HotS was DoA.
WoW is dying with no hope of resurrection.

So no, It isn't just the recent WoW expansions. It's their recent library. It also isn't that I don't play these games, nobody I know or nobody on /v/ plays these games.

There are better alternatives that exceed in everything Blizzard neglected simply out of incompetence. That's what happens when people like Rob Pardo and the people who made their actual good games leave.
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>>323354118
You don't get it, 30 million for sales is a flop for Diablo 3 and I bet it hasn't broke even.
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>>323354779
D3 is doing quite well and still receives updates, and its in a really good spot
HotS is fine
WoW is still a money fountain
SC2 still made a lot of money

Why is it so hard to admit people still like their games
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>>323354779
>HotS was DoA.

I love this meme because in reality, HOTS is only barely behind SMITE and about to break into the Big 3 or make it a Big 4
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>>323354963
>Why is it so hard to admit people still like their games
Can you point to me where these people exist? I don't consider the thousands of basement dwelling autists that attend Blizzcon every year to be people.
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>>323355310
Try leaving your house sometime
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>>323350007
what the fuck is that thing.
is it an ostrich?'
it's cute as shit goddamn i want one.
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>>323356026
looks like an emu
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>>323356262
where can i buy an emu.
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>>323347167
the chick has turtle lips what the fuck comparison is this
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>>323354963
>>323355727
Stop trying to damage control, Blizzard
You show up in all these threads with your flies to shit logic
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>>323355310
>I can conveniently dismiss the opinions of LOTS of people to support my argument just because
Ya sure anon
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>>323342632
Twitch skills don't mean shit if the game isn't accepting that you should have hit the guy on your screen. What the fuck?
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>>323356306
Probably Australia
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>>323342632
That image is misleading, should show one second of movement, or the average reaction time of a person, 0.25 seconds. so 5 of those 20 ticks.
Also, counting out 20 of those 20 tickrate people seems... off, looks more like it's counting in a tickrate of 10 or something.
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>>323341745
It's going to suck.

I really, REALLY want it to be good, but it's not happening.
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If Tracer is the fastest bitch in the game then this game is going to be a slow snorefest
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>>323344292
cute
but FOV is locked in csgo :)
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>>323350142
>D3 vanilla was bad but better than the current aids fest of ros.
Someone in the world actually has this opinion

wow
>How many people play Diablo 3 2 months into a season?
a lot more than were playing diablo 3 six months after launch
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Quakelive is 100 tick
you really need at least 100 tick for a competitive game
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>>323354118
Diablo 3 ros had such bad sales that blizzard gave away free copies of vanilla d3 to the Chinese market and claimed them as sales
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At least it won't be another fucking spunkgargleweewee game.
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>>323364952
Lol no, Diablo 3 has less viewers than Poe which is an indie game
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>>323341745
It's Blizzard, of course it's going to suck.
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>>323365672
Who the fuck cares about twitch viewers?

That has nothing to do with the livelihood of a game
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>>323365824
>Blizzard makes 1 game that's bad on release
>they now suck forever
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>>323341745
I don't give a fuck as long as I get a steady supply of my new waifu.
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>>323366616
Who are you quoting?
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>>323367946
Your mum
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