This is Nintendo's (current) line-up for 3DS and Wii U in

>>323325437
And I'm excited for all of it sans Mario & sonic

>>323325437
Nothing but trash.

>>323325437
On the plus side, it's become really easy not to support NoA.

>>323325437
#FE won't ever sell in the US, especially if #FE is doing piss in Japan. That means it's TOO weeb.
Mario and Sonic is the casual and part of the "undesirables".

>>323325437
Star Fox, TP, #FE and Fates for me, I highly doubt TLoZ will be released this year.

>Legend of Zelda U
>coming out in 2016
Haha, now THAT'S what I call a classic meme!

>>323325928
It says the twilight princess hd re-release not zelda u you fucking retard

>>323326202
Look at it again, you silly billy.

>>323325437
>Nintendo have announced games at E3 and just before for every year since 2012
>Every year we have this thread

>Mario and Luigi
Might be okay, but is probably shit considering the last M&L and PM were both garbage.
>FE:F
Waifushit. Casual waifushit actually.
>Hyrule Warriors
Port of a grindfest.
>M&S
lol
>Boxboy sequel?
Boxboy was fun, so I guess this is alright.
>Federation Force
lol
>LoZ:TP
Port. Dolphin version looks better honestly.
>SFZ
Looks like shit so far.
>Pokken
It's so bad that they actually had to take it out of some arcades. When a fucking POKEMON game is doing bad, you know something is up.
>M&S
lol
>#FE
https://youtu.be/kjr7CaSIzY4?t=629
>LoZ
Also on NX.

>>323326434
>It's so bad that they actually had to take it out of some arcades
>One source that was later debunked is now apparently fact

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>>323325437
Jesus christ that WiiU lineup.
>cashgrab filler HD port
>Star Fox Zero Effort
>arcade port
>shovelware
>the infamous #FE blunder
>implying Zelda will come this year/not be crossgen
Brava Nintendo

>>323325437
Missing Bravely Second

>>323326614
dumb weeb poster

>>323325437
Faggots need to give us Style Savvy 3

>>323325437

You're missing Monster Hunter X

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>>323326691
>Fire Emblem: The Waifuing isn't weeb
>Final Fantasy: The Second Coming is

Third party lineup for 3DS is great though

>>323326965
God damn FE:Fates story is such shit.

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>>323326586
>Star Fox Zero Effort
I'm cracking up over here, why is that so funny

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>>323326586
>>323325774
>>323325928
>>323327131

>>323327338
How are any of those posts bait? Look at the fucking image anon. Nothing but ports, spinoffs nobody wanted and shovelware.

>>323325437
Federation Force was probably canceled.

>>323328114
Either way Metroid is dead.

>>323326586
It would have been Zero Effort had they not just delayed the game in order to put MORE effort into it.

Pokken being in arcades does not equal port. SFV and GG/BB had arcade testing, Dissidia PS4 will be arcade-tested

>>323325437
And I'm not gonna pay a single cent for the 3ds games.

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>>323325928
>Zelda keeps getting delayed
>It will be shit no matter what

There hasn't been a good 3D Zelda in more than a decade, they might as well just fucking release it.

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Who here hyped or pokken

>>323328724
I am excited for it.

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>>323328724
awww yeh

>>323325437
The 3ds looks like it has a more solid catalogue than the Wii U.

The new Legend of Zelda game is supposedly coming out this year but we don't have any confimration on that. Knowing Nintendo they might delay that game again. Twilight Princess is great but it doesn't look like much of a remake. Star Fox Zero and #FE seem to be the only decent games coming out this year, and its unlikely Star Fox is gonna get more than 100k, and even less for #FE.

>>323325893
#FE being too anime isn't the problem, the problem is it has very little themes from the respective franchises it claims to represent. And idols are about as niche as they can get in the gaming industry, even in Japan themselves.

>>323328630
If you're going by new releases then there have only been two 3D mainline Zelda titles. If you're going by any official thing released by Nintendo then you're technically either saying all 3D Zelda games are bad or that the remakes insult whichever of the original games you like because Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Waker all got remakes this generation.

>>323328457
It was delayed to have something more to release in 2016, like Tropical Freeze back in 2014.
The game will be the same aside from some minor improvement in lightning.

>>323325437
Not bad given it's January and Nintendo typically announces lots of games throughout the year that also get released the same year. Games like 3D world and Pokemon were announced and released within the same year.

>>323326434
>Every game that doesn't fit my taste sucks

What the fuck is retro studios doing

>>323328630
>2011 was ten years ago
Time flies on giant motion-controlled birds you raging nostalgia-blinded faggot.

Get ready for that NX.

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>>323325437
Fuck the haters, this game has SEGATA SANSHIRO in it.

>>323329206
I'm not referring to the 3DS remakes, I'm referring to TP and SS, two shit games. Wind Waker was pretty bad too.

>>323325437
Wait, Boxboy is getting a sequel?

>>323329448
Nintendoland NX

>>323329736
How many characters did they add/remove in 2?

>>323325437
Looks like 3DS is securing it's title as the best handheld ever with even more god tier games for 2016 as well.

Can't wait.

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>>323326434
Excellent taste

Agreed with everything you said

>>323328387
It was dead 8 years ago when the creator said he had no interest in making 2D Metroid anymore, hence why he made OM in the first place (he wanted to do a sci-fi "space drama" TV episode instead)

3DS is fucking dead for me except Fates, which I guess is still alright since it has more than one FE's worth of content.

Hype for TPHD and (hopefully) Zelda U. Maybe Star Fox since I managed to never touch the series before. I was looking forward to KOWASHITAI but I'm reconsidering after the lukewarm reception among Japanese players.


>>323325919

Delaying the game past the 30-year anniversary of the series would be the greatest PR disaster ever.

>>323325437
Is Mario Maker worth getting? I deciding between that and paper jam.

>>323326434
>they actually had to take it out of some arcades.
ONE. FAULTY. MACHINE.

>>323329608
>The kid who likes Skyward Sword is calling someone else a faggot

Pot meet kettle

>>323330005
You're not serious, are you?

>>323325437
>M&L Paper Jam
no
>new FE
mite b good
>HW Legends
not interested in musous, also it's a re-release
>Mario and Sonic
nah nigga
>japanese game
don't know what it is
>Metroid: Fuck you fans
>TP Remaster
no
>SF0
It's made by Platinum so it may be short as fuck
>Pokken
mite b good
>#FE
no
>ZeldaU
>implying

>>323329802
>le TP and SS are bad meme XD

OoT was clunky and just as linear as any other Zelda game. The "overworld" was empty and fucking tiny, there was little to do or see. NPC interaction and sidequests were sparse.

MM was a lazy cash-grab, it's fucking short, and one of the four dungeons is just one long fetch quest. It was a lazy cash-grab that reused OoT's assets before the N64 finally died the slow, painful death it deserved for being such a poorly-designed console.

>>323330274
What's wrong?

3DS is better than any other handheld ever released. It has an amazing library of every game from each genre and represents the best of each genre.

Starfox and Pokken look nice. We haven't seen near enough of Zelda to judge it. Fed Force looks like it might be a little too slow but I'm not completely autistic about the franchise so I'll wait til we see more before it call it shit.

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>>323330429

>>323330618
>>>/b/

>>323330474
>Federation force
Can't wait for it to turn out to be a perfectly enjoyable, solid spin-off title that could have been safely ignored if you didn't want it. The childishly negative reaction to the game will just send the message that Metroid "fans" are impossible to please and that Nintendo should just not bother with the franchise anymore if this is how "fans" react to anything but the game Nintendo would have to read minds to make.

>>323329895
It's really weird, some got removed, some got swapped with better fitting partners, and others make no sense. Give me a minute to figure this out.

>>323330303
>MM was a lazy cash-grab
Stopped reading there.

>>323327646
>Star Fox Zero
>Pokken Tournament
>Zelda U
>Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
>SMTxFE

None of those 5 are ports, spinoffs nobody wanted, or shovelware.
Yes SMTxFE is shit, but people did want it at first.

>>323325437
this is a bunch of games i'm going to pirate

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>>323330778
>Metroid "fans" are impossible to please
Is asking for a new Metroid game really that outrageous of a request?

>>323330778
>the game Nintendo would have to read minds to make.
What a fucking faggot, holy shit.

>>323330778
Pretty much. I don't think the game looks great from what we've seen but NLG are a solid team and the premise is perfectly fine (fuck, it's even something a lot of fans were asking for previously). There are issues I take with it but 90% of the complaints are just "it's different so it should be cancelled"

I don't think any of them realize this game isn't taking the place of a "true" Metroid and getting it destroyed won't cause a new one to happen any faster.

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>>323330429
>this entire post

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>>323330893
>MM isn't a lazy cash grab crapped out in a year that existed solely because OoT already did and it could reuse the engine and all the assets and wasn't short as shit with, by far, the least amount of meaningful content in any Zelda game

>B-b-but WW, SS and TP are SHIT!

We're gonna need some pretty strong solvent to dissolve the glue that's melted those rose-tinted glasses to your face.

>>323330778
Do they need to read minds to know people want a Metroid game?

>>323331282
I wouldn't say it's lazy. It's not my favorite but even I admit it's one of the more unique zelda games.

>>323331050
>Is asking for a new Metroid game really that outrageous of a request?
You're getting one. It's just not what you wanted, so it's shit, right?

>>323331162
>90% of the complaints are just "it's different so it should be cancelled"
Yup, see above.

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>>323325437
>#FE
>making it to North America

>>323331474
Unique doesn't always equate to good though.

I don't dislike MM at all, I just love pissing off MM fanboys who pretend it was the pinnacle of Zelda and everything after was shit while ignoring the fact that MM and OoT offend in many of the same areas, but worse.

>>323331504
You really need to be slapped


Slap the fuck out yourself

>>323331504
Federation Force is a Metroid game as much as Nuts and Bolts is Banjo & Kazooye, faggot.

>>323327646
>spinoffs nobody wanted
Are you kidding? Many people have dreamed of a Pokémon fighting game since they were kids?

>>323329802
Ah, okay then. I respect your opinion.

>>323325437
>my two most anticipated games on that list are bar none the most hated
Man fuck you guys, I'm still pumped for #FE and Federation Force

>>323331050
No it's not, but it's stupid to take out your frustrations over the lack of a game out on something that is ultimately unrelated to that. It's no less retarded than all those people that started getting pissy about Tropical Freeze because it wasn't Prime 4.

The TP logo doesn't have the HD on it. You might wanna fix that

>>323331330
>>323331089
It's perfectly fine to not want or like Federation force, it's another matter entirely to insist it get canned in favor of some other hypothetical game that simply does not exist. FF did not replace some "real" Metroid game, we'd be in the same place with or without it.

Other M was mediocre, Nintendo will make another Metroid when they feel they have a good idea for one. Do you want Another M, or do you want them to keep the franchise on the back burner until they can actually do it justice and make a good game again?

>>323332096
Eh, I don't see a problem with it. I think it's correct.

>>323325437
Already have Star Fox Zero and new Zelda preordered.

Also, where the fuck is Bravely Second? Its coming out in Europe in Febuary, so shouldn't it be coming to burgerland around the same time?

>>323331816
>>323331767
Right it's shit because it's not the one you wanted. Glad we've established that.

>>323331737
It'll be eshop probably. Then again who knows with NoA. FF5 was digital only, devil's third got a physical release and we seem to not be getting the newest rhythm heaven at all. What an odd company.

>>323332012
Why would anyone be hyped at Fed Force?
Just buy literally any other coop FPS on the market and you'll probably have a better time.
Or is playing as a super deformed fed robot with shitty DS controls that much important to you?

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>>323332285
It's still just "sometime in 2016" for us.

>>323325437
only one good game on that entire list can you guess which one it is?

>>323332308
It's not a Metroid game and it looks like a shit co op FPS in general.
Stop strawmanning.

>>323329163
>it has very little themes from the respective franchises it claims to represent
Stop spreading this bullshit, it has 100% SMT gameplay and like 50% FE characters. The overarching theme may be different but it has a lot from both series.

>>323332012
>Two double F's

Wow, you literally failed four times.

>>323332663
Pokken Tournament

>>323331242
>doesn't know half of the games on the list
>shoved his uninformed opinion in anyways

Fuck off.

>>323330836
>>323329895
Okay I think I got it.

Namco Out
>Kogoro & Mii
>Haken & Kaguya
>Soma, BlackRose, Sanger, Neneko, and Lindow

Capcom Out
>Frank West & Hsien-Ko
>Arthur, Devilotte, Tron Bonee, Lady, Batsu, and Juri

Sega Out
>Kurt & Riela
>Toma & Cyrille
>Imca, Bruno, Rikiya, and Bahn

Namco In
>Ciel & Nana
>Kazuya, Natsu, and Aty

Capcom In
>Vergil, Strider Hiryu, Leon Kennedy, Phoenix Wright/Maya Fey, Felicia, Captain Commando, June Lin, and Ingrid

Sega In
>Kazuma & Goro
>Kage Maru, Axel, Hibana, Ryo Hazuki, and Segata Sanshiro

Nintendo In
>Chrom & Lucina
>Fiora

It makes more sense to just check out the PxZ wiki, a lot of units got swapped around.

>>323332717
>It's not a Metroid game
>Stop strawmanning
kek

>>323325437
>FEF, TPHD, Zelda U
Will preorder.

>M&L, SF Zero, Pokken
Day one.

>FF
May play it

>That thing in Japanese
Don't know what that is.

>M&S
Garbage

Pretty damn good lineup. Quality over quantity.

>>323332178
Not to mention Nintendo has confirmed before they have plans for traditional Metroid. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we heard about an NX Metroid title sometime this year or next year.

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>>323331242
>Star fox 0
>it will be good

X


D

>>323332401
>It'll be eshop probably
>Nintendo IP is going to be eShop only
That's not how it works

VTD please

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>>323332178
>FF did not replace some "real" Metroid game
Actually it did, the leaked prototype they were working on before being put on FF was a traditional Metroid game, they said so themselves.

>>323332576
>Japan: April 23rd. 2015.
>Europe: Feb. 26th. 2016.
>Australia: Feb 27th. 2016.
>America: 2016 SOMETHING DUNNO

Holy shit you're right. This is fucking retarded.
Get your fucking shit together NoA.

>>323332836
learn to count fammo

>>323333154
Poor shitposter has no rebuttal?

>>323329736
>no Sonic

lol

>>323333368
>NX Metroid
That's pretty much guaranteed at this point. People in the west have been waiting for it for a long time and they know it. It'll be great to sell the thing.

>>323325437
So 3DS wins again? god damn the wii u is pathetic.

>>323333523
That was before Luigi's Mansion. That thing got killed much earlier than you're making it sound. Do you want to get mad at Luigi's Mansion now for taking your Metroid away?

Frankly I think they were put on FF because there isn't much time left for the 3DS and Wii U and Nintendo doesn't think they can make a true Metroid before NX drops.

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>>323333746
Just like it was guaranteed literally every E3 year since 2010.
You probably expect FZero on NX as well.

>>323328387
NX handheld bro, NX handheld.

>>323331504
Oh I am, so where is my sidescrolling sequel to Metroid Fusion then? I didn't ask for more Prime shit on handheld again.

>>323334081
I'm not a delusional Metroidfag, dude. They listened to your cries after the FedForce announcement. Now it is guaranteed.

>>323325437
The two FE games and Pokken are all that matter. Maybe Zelda but it will probably be trash.

>>323333883
>That thing got killed much earlier than you're making it sound.
They had a playable build. Look it up.
>Frankly I think they were put on FF because there isn't much time left for the 3DS and Wii U
For a shitty filler game it took them a lot of time.
LM2 was finished almost 3 years ago.

>>323333724
>Don't Strawman!
>while he starwmans
lel

>>323326434
>It's so bad that they actually had to take it out of some arcades. When a fucking POKEMON game is doing bad, you know something is up.
Where did you get this from? Pokken has twitter campaigns with over 100,000 results almost every month. Shit they are doing one right now to guess the new character being revealed next week.

>>323333368
Agreed, I believe Nintendo will pull a Metroid Fusion by announcing Metroid 5 at e3 for the NX handheld just like they did Fusion back when it was called just Metroid IV at e3 2001.

>>323334664
A single arcade in a single chain removed one machine due to poor usage. That's quite literally all it was.

>>323326434
>Waifushit. Casual waifushit actually.

But you don't actually have waifus in the game. There's no romance or anything asides ogling their assets.

>>323334430
Just like the backslash over Other M made then develop more traditional 2D or Prime games right?

>>323330778
Reminder that Federation Force was first revealed as Eshop shovelware as well as some side shit minigame during the Smash tourney

>>323334952
I don't think anyone will deny they botched the reveal hard, though that's less on the game and more on Nintendo having no idea how to put together a proper E3 showing.

>>323335846
>Nintendo having no idea how to put together a proper E3 showing.
So, CG trailers with no gameplay for games that aren't coming for 1+ year? Because that's the standard at E3, not showing up with playable demos for games you're just now revealing.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Nintendo's E3 presentation, they showed up with games and gameplay, not celebrities and trailers. Not liking what they showed doesn't mean they did a poor job presenting it, it means you just don't like the games.

>>323334929
They made 4 Metroid Primes, and 1 pinball game based off it. Tell me, how many Other Ms did they do? That's what the backlash was for in that case. Now it's a different story altogether.

>>323336236
Everyone else fucks up their E3s often too, that doesn't excuse Nintendo's shittiness.

They devoted large portions of the show to games that were already announced and shown extensively, they announced a lot of things prior to the show for no particular reason, which just left them with fewer things to talk about, they started off with their biggest reveal so the rest of the thing just felt like waiting for "the big reveal" even though they started with it, and Metroid being first shown off as a soccer game confused the fuck out of people over what the thing is supposed to be.

Don't defend that shit-show. They've had good E3s before and that wasn't one of them.

>>323336236
Shame on me for not loving Amiibo Party, Federation Force, Mario Tennis, and the 245# trailer of Xenoblade and Mario Maker, I guess.
Not to mention the Skylanders shilling, worthless minutes of developer stories and shit like Let's Super Mario.

Think Pokken could be in EVO this year?

>>323326434
>Waifushit. Casual waifushit actually.
Bait of Babylon.
Nohr path is actually challenging and has great level design.
This isn't Awakening.

>>323336236
>There was absolutely nothing wrong with Nintendo's E3 presentation

Screening this for future use. This is the average Neotendrone, ladies and gents.

>>323334789
>>323337025
>has a literal waifu petting simulator
It's nearly Senran Kagura tier pandering.

>>323336859
>Don't defend that shit-show
It was not a shit show just because you didn't like the games.

It was infinitely better than any of the other presentations because it was focused on gameplay, not a big staged event with trailers.

What was wrong with showing us extensive gameplay for unreleased games? We should have seen reveals for games we won't be playing for two years instead? We should get MORE "prease understandu"? Nintendo specifically stated E3 2015 would focus on 2015 games long before E3 even started. E3 isn't just for reveals and CG trailers, it's an expo.

>>323337215
It's an extra feature for those who want it.
It doesn't really matter in the game, and if you pick Nohr you'll have an experience much like earlier FE games.

But at this point I know you're baiting, so who cares :^)

>>323336236
But their E3 presentation was shit as they spent too much time on mundane things. There was no excuse for how much time was spent on literally just yarn talk about Yoshi's Woolly World and the rest of the developer stories. No one gives a shit.

>>323337468
>if you didn't like it then you must have wanted [other bad thing] because only two extremes exist, not to mention they only focused on 2015 because the Wii U and 3DS are clearly on their death bed

You didn't even acknowledge the faults I mentioned so please stop trying.

>>323334773
actually they removed it because it was giving too much play time relative to money spent
for like 1 or 2 japanbucks you could spend up to an hour playing without having to insert more money

Being a Wii U owner is suffering.

>No New Punch-Out game with beat em up gameplay
>No new 3D Metroid
>No body makes anything for even the eshop
>Sega wont even port its old games in some kind of collection
>No Ultima Underworld style game to take advantage of the gamepad
>no ZOmbi U sequel
>No Baten Kaitos collection

KILL
ME

>>323337131
>tripfag
kek
>IT'S NOT THE CAR I WANTED!
It not being the car you wanted does not make it a bad car.

I don't care if you hated every single game, gameplay is always superior to CG trailers and e-celebs.

Nintendo had the best E3 because they focused on games and showed us extensive gameplay.

>>323331754
This.
I love MM, but the whole game was all the stuff they had to cut out of OoT because the N64DD flopped.

>>323338189
>punch-out with beat em up gameplay
Why would you want that? Mac is a boxer.

>>323338189
Zombi u sold like 800k, but Ubisoft said it was disappointing. I still don't get it.

>>323338383
>Not wanting a Nintendo themed beat em up
>not wanting to beat up thugs with Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Mario and Donkey Kong

>>323325437

>sequel
>sequel
>sequel
>sequel
>....

Yawn... Can't they come up with something new?

>>323338473
Ubisoft and most of the other third parties that hopped onto the Wii U at first only did so because they were expecting Wii numbers from the thing, not sub-Gamecube numbers.

>>323325437
>no pikmin 4
>no rhythm heaven best+
>no style savvy 3
>no lost reavers
>no project x zone 2
>no Dragon Quest
>no project giant robot
>no miitomo
>no Pokemon GO

Once again OP nice try.

>>323325437
>fire emblem
>mario and luigi
>star fox
>zelda (maybe)

everything else is a rehash or literal trash

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>>323330921
>Yes SMTxFE is shit, but people did want it at first.

No. No one wanted this. People wanted a completely different game.

>>323337872
>they started off with their biggest reveal so the rest of the thing just felt like waiting for "the big reveal" even though they started with it
Not a problem at all, that grabs people's attention. You WANT to start with something big so people aren't disinterested right away. And we knew about star Fiox already anyway, and the same goes for most of the big E3 reveals this year too.

As for there not being another "big reveal" that's all down to whether or not you liked what they showed, which has no bearing on the quality of the presentation or the fact that it showed plenty of gameplay.

>Announced before the show
All they announced before the show was the Smash DLC, something that should have been left out of the presentation if you're complaining about them showing games we already knew about.

>Metroid being first shown off as a soccer game confused the fuck out of people over what the thing is supposed to be.
What was confusing about it? Revealing a game with gameplay and a demo is bad now? I get it, you don't like Federation Force.

Nintendo's focus was on showing gameplay, not CG trailers for games we won't play until 2017. If that's what you want out of E3, then good for you, but I'd much rather see gameplay, even if it's for games I don't care about.

>>323338949
boy murphys law sure hit Nintendo hard

>Name it the Wii U because the Wii sold well, might as well use the name again
>Turns out people think its the Wii with a tablet controller

>Get third parties involved because the Wii sold amazing
>Because of poor marketing, a bad name and mishandling everything it sells piss poor

>Third parties leave even after the console has been properly advertised to people and the name isnt an issue
>No one wants a console without games

>>323339009
Pokemon Go isn't Wii U dumbass

>>323339256
But it's a nintendo game so you might as well include all the platforms they develop for, correct?

>>323339164
Keep whining, nobody cares what you wanted.

>Usual Mario shit
Rio 2016? Fucking really?
>Usual Zelda shit
>Metroid boring shit
WE WANT A NEW METROID
LOL HERE HAVE THIS PILE OF SHIT. HOPE U RIKE IT! PREEZE UNDRASTRAND!!!!!!
>#FE sold like shit

Wow so many good reasons to buy Nintendo! I hope the NX bombs.

>>323339190
>not CG trailers for games we won't play until 2017. If that's what you want out of E3

I'm pretty certain you're just baiting because you keep repeating this as if you have a point.

>>323339436
>including mobile shit

this is a bit desperate

It looks like the WiiU is in for a rough year, and while I am a bit miffed I didn't get a new Metroid and Star Fox looks underwhelming I still got more fun out of the little guy than any other platform I've had in years.

Luckily I have friends over a lot so the couch co-op focus of the WiiU has really made it the go to platform for me.

>>323339243
truly an endless cycle of pain for them

Why are you guys so angry? I'm just glad I'll have time to work on my existing backlog before Zelda comes out

>>323339689
But you are getting a new metroid...

>>323340085
Federation Force is MINO

>>323339540
>You didn't even acknowledge the points I mentioned so please stop trying.

We knew about most of the other big games revealed by other publishers, they showed far less gameplay, if any, for lots of games. MS even re-used half the Fallout 4 shit we saw already for their presentation.

Nintendo had a better show because they focused on showing us gameplay. That's all there is to it, I don't care how you felt about any of the games revealed/shown at E3, this is why they had a better show.

>>323340253
>BUT SONY AND MICROSOFT...!

Is that your goal here, to make this a console war thing? I don't care what they did, they have nothing to do with this.

>>323341109
>Nintendo had a better show because they focused on showing us gameplay. That's all there is to it, I don't care how you felt about any of the games revealed/shown at E3, this is why they had a better show.

>>323340253
>I don't care if they showed us shitty games, the important thing is that they showed us gameplay

are you fucking serious?

>>323341159
You're the only one bringing up how much better they were than the other shows. I'm just saying it was shit. E3s are usually shit but Nintendo's was shit primarily because they had a severe lack of things to talk about and did a very poor job of pretending the Wii U and 3DS aren't dying. Everyone elses were shit for different reasons, stop mentioning them.

And frankly what good is gameplay if we've seen it already? Would you be fine with them showing off footage of Pikmin 3 again just because "hey its gameplay!"

>>323326614

Too bad it's shit. Have you actually looked up anything about the game? They even managed to fuck up the OST compared to the first game.

>>323337215

I'm talking about #FE, not Fates. There's no Social links/romance/routes in it whatsoever, nor do any of the characters fall in love over the course of them main story anyways.

>>323341351
Yes. Showing us gameplay is always better than not showing us gameplay. Because these are video games.

You don't seem to grasp the concept here. Whether or not you liked the games is subjective, whether or not we saw gameplay or a trailer is not. AGAIN, I don't care how you felt about ANYONE'S games at E3, if they don't show gameplay, it was a shitty presentation. Period. E3 is for video games, show us gameplay.

>>323341606
>E3s are usually shit but Nintendo's was shit primarily because they had a severe lack of things to talk about
E3 isn't about creating talking points, it's about showing us video games.

>And frankly what good is gameplay if we've seen it already?
We had not seen any/most of it prior to E3. They streamed hours of gameplay from games we had seen little from, and it was all/mostly fresh footage, not recycled from trailers or something else.

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>>323343154
>I don't care if even the fans think it was the worst E3 for Nintendo, they showed gameplay so they win

This is some hardcore droning holy shit
>E3 isn't about creating talking points, it's about showing us video games.
>he seriously believes this

>>323329608
>Nintendicksucker actually likes wagglan
>he then calls someone else a faggot

>>323343417
>I don't care if even the fans think it was the worst E3 for Nintendo, they showed gameplay so they win
First, you're generalizing, and second, yes I already explained this to you.

If you're not showing us gameplay, then who fucking cares? All the big stage spectacle does is hype people for games they shouldn't be hyped for yet. I don't care if they announced FF7 remake or whatever, they didn't show us much of anything about how it's going to actually play. There's nothing to get excited for, they could have just plopped the trailer on youtube.

>>323343714
I bet you're hyped about VR.

>>323344641
You sound like an autistic manchild anon. That would explain why you're defending Nintendo this hard though.

>>323344843
>b-b-but SONY!
Try again faggot.

>>323325437
Really only care about Zelda U on wii u this year. And I'm super cautious on it. 2016 has a ton of games I'm excited for elsewhere though

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>>323344641
>If you're not showing us gameplay, then who fucking cares?
The investors and fans, that's literally E3 main goal and why it was designed
>All the big stage spectacle does is hype people for games they shouldn't be hyped for yet.
You're clearly new to this whole videogame thing

>Nier2 and a new Rare game trailer: who fucking cares?
>Metroid "middle finger to the fans" spinoff shows gameplay: OMG BEST CONFERENCE EVAH!
This fucking guy

>the quality of the games is irrelevant
>muh gameplay
I can't even tell if this is falseflagging or genuine retardation anymore.

>>323343417
Showing gameplay for a bad game is infinitely superior to showing us a trailer and little/no gameplay.

You're able to make an informed decision right away, you can tell you won't like the game because you've seen gameplay. With a bullshit CG trailer, you have no idea, it's all for marketing so you're pulled in without actually being informed.

The less informed customers are, the better it is for publishers. This is why shitty, broken games still sell millions, because clever, careful marketing makes sure customers see as little of the actual product as possible, and when they do its as controlled and in as good a light as possible.

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>>323333065
>Haken & Kaguya

No buy for me

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>No Dragon Quest 7
>No Dragon Quest 8
>No Ace Attorney 6
>No Project x Zone 2
>No Bravely Second
>No Yooka-Laylee

oh, sonygger thread. If the Wii U is such a failure, why are you afraid of it?

>>323345526
Nigga I'd take a million trailers or premiers that shows promise like say Nier 2 than watch gameplay footage of garbage like Amiibo Festival in E3

>>323325437
>Mario & Luigi
mite b good
>Fire Emblem Fates
only real 3DS title to look forward to
>Hyrule Warriors
inferior port of a Wii-U title
>Some Japanese game
????
>Metroid Federation Force
lol

>Zelda Twiilght Princess HD
shitty port and a waste of money
>StarFox Zero
looks like a rushed, mediocre piece of crap, to say the least
>Pokken Tournament
actually looks kind of fun, might be good
>Mario and Sonic
ahahaahahaahah
>Kawashitai
aahHAHAHAHAHAAHAH, that shit deserved to bomb hard
>Zelda U
Only title to look forward to, and that's assuming that Nintendo doesn't fuck up like Skyward Sword; 99% chance it's coming to the NX as well either way

>>323325437
The 3DS lineup is pretty forgettable

I'm interested in Starfox, Pokken, FE and Zelda.

>>323345871
Nier 2 had gameplay footage in its trailer. It wasn't a Kikestarter announcement or CGI shit

>>323345174
>The investors
Who fucking cares, they're idiots and only care about money, not making games that don't suck. retarded investors are why Nintendo is even making shitty mobile games.
>and fans
Fans should be seeing gameplay. Fans being "wowed" by trailers is exactly what publishers want and perpetuates the shitty AAA games we get every year. It's all for the benefit of the publisher, not the fans.

>>323344985
>Sony is the only one with VR.

Be more subtle, Sonygger faggot

>>323346028
>mobile games.
Well, at least they managed to talk them out of the absolute retardation that would be releasing ports of their beloved games.

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>>323345824
>muh sonygger boogieman
>literally all those games are for the 3DS except for YL which is a multiplat

>why are you afraid of it?
Well yeah who isn't afraid of a rotting corpse?

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>>323325437
>Paper Jam looks just as good as the other M&L games which is to say it looks good
>Fates will probably be fine
>Hyrule Warriors Legends is pretty dumb, but at least the Wii U vesion is going to get the DLC
>Federation Force honestly looks fun and that was the general feeling before all these Metroidfags found out its related to Metroid
>Mario & Sonic games are pointless so who cares
>TP is a great game so here it is in HD
>Star Fox Zero will probably be pretty good even if visually it looks bland
>Pokken Tournament looks fun
>#FE is gonna be great
>Zelda U will probably be amazing

I see no problem with this. It's not like Nintendo doesn't announce shit the same year it'll come out all the time.

>>323346108
Still don't care about VR.

>Mario and Sonic at Rio

RIP

>>323346028
>"E3 is made for the investors"
>DURR who cares about the investors?
This is some legit retardation

>Fans should be seeing gameplay.
Yeah because that worked wonders for Nintendo this year right?

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>he doesn't have paper jam yet

>>323345871
>Nigga I'd take a million trailers or premiers that shows promise like say Nier 2
But if it's just a trailer, you don't know that it shows promise, that's the point.

You don't know if it's going to be good or bad, you can't inform yourself because there's nothing there that's informative. It's no better than simply announcing the game is being made. It's like getting hyped for a film announcement before seeing the trailer, you have no information with which to form an opinion yet.

You immediately knew you didn't like Amiibo Shitfest because you immediately knew what it was, you were informed. You were able to definitively say "I don't want this piece of shit" because you saw plenty of gameplay.

>>323325437
I think that the Star Fox Zero will be like Jurassic World and Star Wars: The Force Awakens. It will be a good, well-made game and most people who play it will like it, but it will be criticized for not doing much new and sticking too close to its roots.

>>323346775
It's shit anyway.

>>323345526
You're talking about comparing definitive shit against an unknown. One is obviously and clearly shit and the other may or may not be shit.

Good gameplay is always the best but really if you know one is shit right away that just brings down the whole conference. Besides it's not like Nintendo was the only one with gameplay but I know you'll keep pretending that's the case just because it's all they had.

I mean fuck their 2014 and 2013 conferences were great because they had gameplay and lots of stuff to show off. This year was mostly filler titles thrown together so they can prop the 3DS and Wii U up like fucking Weekend at Bernie's and say they're still going strong.

>>323346835
>But if it's just a trailer, you don't know that it shows promise, that's the point.
I was hyped because Nier 1 was a good game and knowing that the sequel will be handled by a competent dev made me even more hyped

>You immediately knew you didn't like Amiibo Shitfest because you immediately knew what it was, you were informed. You were able to definitively say "I don't want this piece of shit" because you saw plenty of gameplay.
No because just the title itself was enough proof that this shit was going to be awful

>>323346680
>Investors
Again, fuck the investors. Why do you give one single iota of a shit abot the investors?

This isn't just for investors, they have, you know, exclusive investors meetings for that. This is a huge event with lots of media coverage and on-floor demos for the hundreds and hundreds of attendees to play. E3 demos used to be a much more common thing.

>Yeah because that worked wonders for Nintendo this year right?
They got lots and lots of feedback, so yes, it did help them. If people aren't going to like what they're making they should know sooner rather than later. Can't bitch about Nintendo being out of touch with fans and say they shouldn't be transparent with their games by showing gameplay because reception might be negative, shit makes no sense.

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>durr you can't get hyped at a trailer you need gameplay to justify it
>implying /v/ didn't flip their shit when the initial Persona 5 trailer was revealed
>implying /v/ wouldn't flip their shit if Valve showed the words 'half life 3 coming soon'

>>323347793
>/v/
Nobody said /v/ had taste.

>>323347675
>Why do you give one single iota of a shit abot the investors?

Goddamn it are you stupid? E3 is just a marketing campaign, you think they show their latest projects because they love you? fuck no, they do it to attract the attention of investors

>They got lots and lots of feedback, so yes, it did help them.
You mean all the negative feedback saying that was the worst thing they've done and that FedForce was a disgrace and should be cancelled ASAP? Are you forgetting how even the Treehouse fags think that feedback was just trolls and such?

>>323346972
>One is obviously and clearly shit and the other may or may not be shit.
And it was clearly shit because we saw more than a title and a CG trailer, that's the crux of my point.

We don't see gameplay for lots of other games because it's better for the publisher that way. It creates hype without the possibility of the game being negatively received before release. Publishers do not want customers to be informed, an informed customer is a discerning customer and not one that will blindly pre-order your game and its season pass. It's all for the benefit of the publisher, not the player.

>No because just the title itself was enough proof that this shit was going to be awful
Not arguing the game isn't bad, but that's just personal bias. I'm sure the people that actually liked the game enjoy amiibos, it's all subjective. But whether or not I can make that informed decision is not.

>>323325437
>Mario & Luigi
>Pokken
Will buy

>Zelda U
>Star Fox Zero
>FE Fates
>Hyrule Warriors
Considering it

>TP HD
>Mario & Sonic
>FExSMT
Pass

>Fed Force
Premise is cool as fuck but the gameplay they showed looked boring as shit, wouldn't surprise me if they went back to the drawing board on it considering we haven't heard anything about it since the initial announcement. Cautiously looking forward to see how they handle it from here.

>>323348350
>E3 is just a marketing campaign
And that's bad, why are you okay with that?

>>323347675
Feedback is irrelevant if they don't act on it. Nintendo never listen to the fans.
People shat on Amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis, #FE, and what did Nintendo do? Nothing, they all came out and flopped. And the same will happen to FF and SF0.

>>323348505
Im not saying it's bad or good, im just stating facts

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>>323348395
You're just impossible to get through to.

If you know it's a shit game, how does that make it a good conference? And don't you even dare fall back on your "BUT MICROSOFT AND SONY... BUT THE CG TRAILERS..." nonsense again to try and pass it over to something unrelated. Explain to me how shit games make for anything more than a shit conference. Explain how wasting time on games we've already seen everything from is anything more than boring filler.

>>323348350
You just sound like the worst kind of corporate apologist.

>It's an ad campaign doofus!
>Feedback from fans is always a bad thing!

E3 was not and should not be one giant ad for AAA CG trailers, that's fucking awful and is why shit like Fallout 4 and Battlefront sell millions and millions of copies and why AAA pubs get away with it every fucking year. It keeps the normies in the dark so they all run out and preorder like good goys.

Getting feedback from fans is ALWAYS good, positive or negative. You're a fucking moron if you even try to argue against this, I just don't understand how you could possibly spin this as being a bad thing. If the game is bad, Nintendo should know.

>>323325437
Pokken was probably the first time I was interested in a Pokemon game since Pokemon Stadium.
Then they had to go and fuck up the local multiplayer.
Well, at least that's $60 saved.

>>323349007
And you sound like the worst kind of Nintendo apologist

>3 was not and should not be one giant ad for AAA CG trailers
But sad news it is and it has always been
>that's fucking awful and is why shit like Fallout 4 and Battlefront sell millions and millions of copies and why AAA pubs get away with it every fucking year.
That's because marketing you goof, if they weren't marketed they would sell like shit

>Getting feedback from fans is ALWAYS good, positive or negative. You're a fucking moron if you even try to argue against this, I just don't understand how you could possibly spin this as being a bad thing. If the game is bad, Nintendo should know.
And like >>323348531 said, feedback is useless if Nintendo doesn't do shit
Amiibo Festival wasn't either improved or cancelled
Mario Tennis wasn't improved
FedForce wasn't either improved or cancelled

Gee great fucking response from Nintendo you got here

>>323329836
Already out in Japan. You get two sets of boxes.

>>323348929
>If you know it's a shit game, how does that make it a good conference?
Your entire argument stems from this:
>It's a good conference if I personally and subjectively liked their games
Everyone has different opinions, everyone is going to like certain games and dislike others. There's no precedent, there's no baseline for comparison.

My basis for judging their conference was not whether or not I personally liked what they announced, because that's completely subjective. They had a "good" conference because they showed gameplay and we were all able to make informed opinions about what they showed us, good or bad.

That is a lot more important than fabricated hype to sell preorders. No stupid celebrity cameos, No TVTVTV SPORTS (though they did have amiibos, fuck amiibos.) It's not just what they showed us but HOW they showed it to us. They allowed us to form opinions and say "These games look like shit" as opposed to leaving us to find that out on release day like so many other publishers.

>>323339470
#FE bombed even in Japan. Clearly nobody wanted this game.

>>323349663
>And you sound like the worst kind of Nintendo apologist
Where did I say what they showed us was good? Where did I say Amiibo Shitfest wasn't terrible?

You're not getting it. It's not about liking the games. It's about transparency and informing customers before asking them for money. It's about E3 not being one giant ad campaign for AAA garbage.

They showed us GAMEplay for all their video GAMES, so we were all able to form an opinion. We did not just see trailers with little/no gameplay leaving us to wonder and buy into the fabricated hype. They were upfront about their games, shitty or not, and we need a lot more of that today, not less.

>>323350146
So what you're saying is is that it's good, but only so long as you ignore the game part of the game conference.

Ya still didn't explain how the filler wasn't awful.

>>323350637
I love how you keep ignoring points you don't like.
Like the one about Nintendo not actually listening to fans feedback.

>>323350637
>Where did I say what they showed us was good?
You said they had a good conference because they showed us gameplay of shit games nobody wanted

>It's about E3 not being one giant ad campaign for AAA garbage.
It has always been like that, it's not a recent thing goddamn are you this thick?

>They showed us GAMEplay for all their video GAMES, so we were all able to form an opinion. We did not just see trailers with little/no gameplay leaving us to wonder and buy into the fabricated hype. They were upfront about their games, shitty or not, and we need a lot more of that today, not less.
We are running circles at this point, nobody gives a fuck if you the gameplay you shown is awful and it's about games nobody wants and it's not like the games you shown a trailer of in E3 don't get gameplay footage later on

>>323331504
>You're getting one
Hypothetical scenario

There hasn't been a Mario game in 8 years. Nintendo then announces "Mario: Revengeance", a hack n slash with light platforming elements.

Is that a "Mario" game?

>>323332224
ayy lmao

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>>323339436
Except it's not a Nintendo game, it's Game Freak and we all know they're jews just like what happened to the amiibos in Yoshi's Wooly World.

>>323337468
>What was wrong with showing us extensive gameplay for unreleased games?
Treehouse was good as usual, what was wrong was their Digital Event where they gave extensive time to Shigeru talking about gates n shit and one randy woman talking about wool. It was fucking retarded.

>>323343154
>E3 isn't about creating talking points, it's about showing us video games.
They didn't have enough announcements of new GAMES and the gameplay they showed us of previously announced games wasn't new or interesting enough to create a surge of interest or excitement.

>>323350986
>Ya still didn't explain how the filler wasn't awful.
see
>>323350637

Not about whether or not I personally liked the games. It's about the fact that we were able to actually be informed about them to be able to say we didn't like them in the first place. We are not afforded that opportunity often anymore, and that's a huge problem.

It's at the point where this isn't normal, where deceptive CG trailers are normal and showing gameplay means fewer pre-orders. Fuck that, all that does is benefit publishers selling broken games. SHOW US GAMEPLAY. If you announce games and show little/no gameplay and just a trailer, then fuck you, you've got a shitty E3 presentation because there's no information there for me to absorb or have an opinion on. I shouldn't have to wait for embargoed reviews and Let's Plays to form an opinion on your game. Fuck, we don't even have demos anymore.

>>323351123
>Like the one about Nintendo not actually listening to fans feedback.
They delayed Star Fox after E3 feedback, Federation Force doesn't even have a date yet despite supposedly being a Q1/2 2016 title. And, to be perfectly fair, a huge chunk of that feedback was "cancel this game" which is not really feedback or a realistic solution to not liking the game.

>>323351864
Don't forget Reggie shilling Skylanders and Let's Super Mario.

>>323350637
So Nintendo's conference was good because they displayed how shit everything was?

>SMTxFE
Fuck, I forgot all about it and I was hoping it would stay that way.

>>323352118
>If you announce games and show little/no gameplay and just a trailer, then fuck you, you've got a shitty E3 presentation because there's no information there for me to absorb or have an opinion on.

That would be an acceptable response, except that both Sony and Microsoft showed gameplay footage of some their latest projects.
Sony showed gameplay of Uncharted 3, Horizon and TLG
Microsoft showed gameplay of Gears and that pirate game Rare is working on

>>323352118
Star Fox was delayed to have something to release in 2016. They already did it before. It has nothing to do with feedback, the game will be the same.
The feedback for FF doesn't count? Lol
And what about Amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis and #FE? Where are the changes made as a result of the negative reception?

>>323346939
why, because it's not muh OC Paper Mario?

>my reaction to that lineup
Wow. I don't want to play any of those games.
>my reaction to that sentence
I've said that nearly five years in a row now.

>>323352118
You just repeated your previous point without actually addressing what I said.

There is nothing informative about their segments on Mario Maker or Woolly World. We'd seen those games. We'd seen A LOT of those games. We got an extensive gameplay demonstration of Mario Maker literally just the day before E3. The customers didn't learn anything more about them by having them cut to Miyamoto talk about SMB1 or to that one lady so she could talk about yarn. That was filler.

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>>323352118
Jesus, you don't have to buy a game right after its announcement at E3.
Everyone, Nintendo included, releases tons of footage between announcement and release.
Shitty AAA games don't sell because they keep the gameplay hidden.

>>323351389
>nobody gives a fuck if you the gameplay you shown is awful
How would you know its awful if you hadn't seen it? That's the fucking point, you were able to form that opinion because THEY SHOWED US GAMEPLAY.

And, by that same logic, no one gives a flying fuck about your game without gameplay either, because there's no information there. There's nothing to form an opinion on. All you know is that the game exists, and we don't need E3 to get that information. It's all done for marketing/hype, which is not done for our benefit.

>>323352020
Okay, fair points. That's why it wasn't a particularly good/great presentation, but unlike pretty much everyone else at E3 they were fairly transparent about their games. I think that's extremely important, especially today. Lukewarm games but good coverage is always better than trailers and no gameplay because there's nothing for you to be excited/disappointed about yet. And the respsonse from E3 will likely impact what Nnintendo does this year, feedback is always good and was enabled by how they presented their games last year.

>>323353237
A love letter to classic gameboy games

Not indie btw, is from Hal the studio that makes Kirby games

Basically the game is like Tetris as a Platformer

https://youtu.be/pgOpWiiq4n0

>>323352869
No, because it's padded with shitty minigames and tons of backtracking.
Of course the formulaic plot and bland setting don't help either.

>>323353237
Box Boy 2
download only puzzle game for 3DS

I never got a WiiU so I'm kinda hyped for the HW port

>Metroidfans aren't bad, I swear

>Shat in spinoffs, when others don't even get the opportunity
>Shat on Samus's look in Smash 4, when Smash has always used the most recent look for characters
>Shat at Nintendo using Other M renders in promotion, when it doesn't fucking matter at all
>Cried when they realized NLG choose Luigi Mansion 2 over Metroid, then swapped attitude when they went back to metroid
>Shat on Tropical Freeze when it was revealed because it wasn't Metroid
>Shat on Pikmin 4 because it wasn't Metroid
>Crying over lack of anniversaries when A)They don't matter, and B)Much larger and popular franchises didn't get anniversaries either
>Pretend Metroid is Nintendo's 4th main franchise, and cry when ever Nintendo doesn't (rightfully) agree

>>323353549
That's cute, and it looks fun. I'll give it a try.

>>323353549
>>323353628
Cute, will it be out on america?
How much is it?

>>323334536
>They had a playable build. Look it up.
Nice source there, pal. Or should I say, lies?

>For a shitty filler game it took them a lot of time.
You haven't even played it, so you don't know how big the game is, also if you believe they've been working for three years on this game you're not thinking right.

>>323353505
>Lukewarm games but good coverage is always better than trailers and no gameplay
But in the long run it means they have no good games coming out.

I mean, a good announcement gives you something to look forward to. A shitty announcement gives you something to avoid.

Take NieR Automata, that was a huge announcement and from the post-E3 gameplay we got it looks like it's going to be rad.

>>323353269
>Shitty AAA games don't sell because they keep the gameplay hidden.
Yeah, they kinda do. TV ads and even lots of trailers have little/no gameplay, and that is the vast majority of what the public sees. This is done intentionally, because live-action, pseudo-CG trailers/ads can be whatever they want them to be. Look at the ads for Destiny, Witcher III, Call of Duty, etc. Lots of live-action stuff, little/no actual gameplay because that live action, movie-like ad is more appealing and grabs more people's attention.

What do you think would have happened if Square had shown us FF7 gameplay at E3? Would it have had the same reception? When you don't give your customers any information, there's nothing for them to pick apart or react to negatively. This is, again, done intentionally, it's all about marketing and creating hype.

>>323353505
>How would you know its awful if you hadn't seen it? That's the fucking point, you were able to form that opinion because THEY SHOWED US GAMEPLAY.
Or maybe it's because you can tell they're going to be awful by just looking at the title, your

>And, by that same logic, no one gives a flying fuck about your game without gameplay either, because there's no information there
I like how you missed my second point, like >>323353269 said, games announced on E3 aren't released immediately after the event is over, there's months ahead before the game gets released and in that time the games that only got only a trailer or a teaser in E3 get gameplay footage and like I said here >>323352748 other conferences showed gameplay of the games they are working on so I don't know why you think the other conferences were bad because they didn't show footage when we know that they did

>>323338189
>Wonderful 101
>Bayonetta 2
>Mario 3D World
>Smash
>Splatoon
>Super Mario Maker
>Pikmin 3
>Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
>Xenoblade Chronicles

I don't know, I'd say it's a pretty good run up.

>>323354575
Nier had gameplay shown at E3 though, there was enough actual game footage to form a baseline opinion. No one of the offenders.

>a good announcement gives you something to look forward to. A shitty announcement gives you something to avoid.
Both of these are better than neither at all, when it's just a trailer there's nothing there to form an opinion on. That's bad, customers should be as informed as possible and if response is negative it gives the developer more time to consider that feedback and respond. Being uninformed is always worse than being informed, regardless of whether or not its positive or negative.

>>323353798
Metroid is my favorite series, but I don't know how people can get so defensive about stuff like that. I mean, Federation Force looks like a fun spin off and it certainly doesn't deserve all those dislikes at all.

>>323354614
>Or maybe it's because you can tell they're going to be awful by just looking at the title
I could tell Witcher III was going to be awful because of the title.

>>323355074
>Nier had gameplay shown at E3 though
Wait really

Either way point still stands that Nintendo didn't announce anything of worth this E3. People like to watch E3 for the big announcements.

>>323355179
but can't you see how it literally ate the true metroid game that everybody wanted and we have to kill it or metroid will be dead forever

>>323355179
It looks like Republic Commando without the fun

>>323355508
Luigi's Mansion 2 "killed" the "true" metroid game. Has this argument ever been used before? It's the first time I see it, tho to be honest I don't visit the metroid threads anymore.

>>323355631
>looks
And that's your problem, man. I can say that the second level they showed is fast and looks pretty fun (which it does) but until I say, "this game plays bad", then it wouldn't matter.

>>323355654
He's obviously baiting.

Sad thing is Metroid threads used to be great.

>>323355305
>People like to watch E3 for the big announcements.
And that's stupid, we can get big announcements anytime, anywhere. E3 has a huge showroom for playable demos. It's an expo, not just a press conference. Show us gameplay, give us insight from developers/designers. There's simply nothing of value in a trailer if there's no gameplay unless you're a publisher trying to market your game to idiots.

>>323326586
Why did you post a gif of yourself?

>>323355807
https://youtu.be/vBu5haRZ9A8?t=205 How can you honestly say this looks fun?
Or remotely like Metroid?

>>323355864
>baiting
Don't be dumb, he wasn't baiting but sarcastic. Learn the difference.

>>323355872
But E3 historically has also been a place for huge announcements.

Any gameplay can also be shown at any time.

Point being if a company as big as Nintendo reveals NOTHING at E3, it shows consumers that they have incredibly little to offer in the coming year.

>>323355982
It does look fun, if a bit slow.

>>323355982
I said the second level, dude, stop overreacting. Yes, it looks fun and frenetic, with each passing wave increasing in difficulty and pirate numbers.

And again, spin off, not a mainline game, but a spinoff, which allows to expand the metroid universe.

>>323356181
Really? It looks like the most barebones a shooter could be to me. And it has just about nothing resembling Metroid gameplay.

>>323355961
XD epic post my friend

>>323356130
>But E3 historically has also been a place for huge announcements.
And showing gameplay and having lots and lots of playable demos for unreleased games. Showing only a CG trailer does nothing but benefit publishers. No gameplay to be criticized, nothing but "OMG HYPE HYPE HYPE" from customers who will then run out and preorder before seeing gameplay at all. Publishers make more money and sell more games when customers are not informed before release. That's why they enforce review embargoes so strictly and why they push for preorders and season passes so much. Get people to buy without being informed, before the product is even available. It's more a problem with AAA pubs and the AAA model in general.

>Point being if a company as big as Nintendo reveals NOTHING at E3
They revealed several new games though. And at this point, it's almost impossible to keep everything under wraps until E3, regardless of who you are. Shit gets leaked all the time now, everyone has a smartphone.

>>323355252
No you dont

>>323356797
All I needed to see was the title though, right? The last two Wicther games were shallow, narrative-focused garbage with the most boring, repetitive combat this side of Skyrim. I could just immediately tell it was going to be bad without looking at any actual game footage.

>>323327336
Because it's synonymous with ps4 zero games

>>323356767
>Showing only a CG trailer does nothing but benefit publishers
Nowhere do I advocate that. I'd much rather Nintendo announced shit and subsequently showed gameplay for it.

An E3 with no announcements and gameplay we've largely already seen isn't exciting in the slightest.

>>323354637
It's decent but not everybody likes all those types of games and with so little you don't have a huge amount of variety if you don't like platformer games.

>>323356767
>They revealed several new games though
>Amiibo animal crossing shit
>woop woop skylanders fuckery
>no more zelda footage/gameplay
>Federation Force
>loads of woolly world which we've already fucking seen so much of

Can't even remember anything else other than Starfox Zero, which was a big announcement but didn't look that great.

>>323357085
Well

When you can't win an argument and get BTFO I suppose you can shitpost as well

In the eyes of /v/, Nintendo can't do anything right

>>323325437
Getting all of them minus the Idol J-pop bullshit.

>>323357656
>Or maybe it's because you can tell they're going to be awful by just looking at the title
So you're directly contradicting this statement you made a few posts ago?

>>323325437

But there is a ton of 3ds games not shown on that list.

>>323359669
I think they mean Nintendo made

>>323359636
No but saying TW3 was going to be awful just by the title and spouting things that shitposters say about the series make it seem like you're grasping at straws

>>323325437
Oh man. What a bummer.

>>323359965
>>323325437 (OP)
Nintendo should be focusing on the NX as we speak, so that's a good thing. Remember back when consoles had good games at launch? Let's do that again, yes?

>>323357554
Star Fox, Paper Jam, Triforce Heroes, Happy Home Designer, Hyrule Warriors 3DS and whatever you mentioned. Chibi Robo might have had its western reveal there too in addition to some other smaller games. They announced plenty of new games, and all of it is out now or will be coming out shortly. Aside from Amiibo shitfest, what exactly is wrong with all these games, amiibo excluded? They're "filler" because you don't want them?

We got Splatoon, Yoshi, Kirby, Xenoblade, Mario Maker, Mario Tennis, Amiibo Shitfest and a few other games this year and all the shit on 3DS, how was that not at least a half-decent release schedule for a single publisher supporting two platforms on their own? If your response is "I don't like those games/they're shit//they're filler" then please don't bother. It's fine to not like the games, but that doesn't make them shit aside from the amiibo board game.

They gave us their
>Prease Understandu
shit for years, people told them to fuck off and show us what's coming so they did. E3 2015 was that response, they specifically stated their focus was on 2015/early 2016 games, not stuff we wouldn't see for a while.

>>323360253
>That's the joke

You can't just look at the title and say
>Oh it's shit
You need to play it or a least watch some gameplay. I didn't like Witcher games that much and I did find them shallow but that doesn't mean they're shit.

>>323361008
Yeah but there's some things that you can already tell they're going to be bad from day one like whenever a new CoD or AssCreed gets announced

>>323360807
>Paper Jam
ok
>Triforce Heroes, Happy Home Designer, Hyrule Warriors 3DS
who cares

>>323361529
>who cares
Nice rebuttal.

>Triforce Heroes has sold 800K
>Happy Home Designer has sold over 2 million
Quite a few people seem to care, actually, and I bet Hyrule Warriors will sell better on 3DS since people actually own them.

>>323361439
CoD is at least well-made and runs/ran at 60fps on consoles. It's also still got splitscreen when even fucking Halo has dropped it. It's sad when Cod isn't the worst shit out there anymore.

>3DS
I'm excited for absolutely nothing. Maybe I'll get FE Fates on the Nohr side, but splitting the game in two is a really fucking shitty practice

>Wii U
I'm excited for Star Fox Zero