DOOM IS SAVED

>>323312189
>saw one picture of one level with one visual effect
>assumed entire game was like that
press x to execute is for retards like you

>>323312402
brutal doom saved doom from itself, cry more bitch ass faggot

>>323312189
>generation 0 shooter in 2016/17.
Lets see if it pans out

>>323313065
>generation 0 shooter

Keep telling yourself this is what that is.

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>>323312402
I knew it was only for Hell. It still didn't look very good and a lot of people complained, and they listened.

They definitely put out that specific screenshot to respond to pic related

>>323313181
Ok, I will

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LOST SOULS
i know i shouldnt be excited for a bethesda game, i feel shame

Any remake of any old game will be shit because the current generation of developers want to turn old fast shooters into slow ones that they grew up playing.

God, that FOV sucks.

>>323313387
Bethesda isn't making it

>>323313065
>generation 0 shooter
bait

>>323313387
You should feel shame for not having played New Order and for trying to fit in like a faggot little casual.

>>323313609
Youre right i haven't, but I've seen a lot of good things from it
I guess I didn't consider that doom is being made by the exact same people. I'm okay with that.

>Still slower than the newest COD (seriously what the fuck)
>press x to execute
it'll be shit no matter what

>>323313836
It's not

>>323313609
New Order was shit.

>>323313609
publisher=/=developer underage.

>>323314045
meant for
>>323313836

>>323314040
Nah.

You're shit.

>>323313959
Sadly
>>323313853
CoD has never been slow.

I mean, it is if you compare it to Quake - but it has always been a fastish arcadeish shooter.
>>323314040
New Order is the best FPS we've had where you are a dude with guns fighting dude with guns since F.E.A.R

>>323314040
>>323314294
>ur stupid
>nuh uh, ur shit
Get a room faggots

>>323313448
indeed

>>323312189
You forgot to mention:

>"Permanent character upgrades that allow you to swap weapons and mantle more quickly, increase ammo and health capacity

>Swappable perk "runes", ex. one gives you a stackable temp speed boost after melee kills"

>BFG and Chainsaw aren't on the weapon wheel since they're used in specific scenarios, Chainsaw is on D-Pad down and BFG is on X. Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.

http://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-22964-New-DOOM-Details-and-Images-Raised-From-the-Bowels-of-Hell.html

tl;dr: It's Call Of Halo: Demons edition.

>>323313387
>bethesda game
What the fuck are you even doing on this board? Are you fucking stupid?

>>323314505
>Seems like they're treating the BFG as a panic button.
The rest is okay but this is annoying.

>>323314327
>New Order is the best FPS we've had where you are a dude with guns fighting dude with guns since F.E.A.R
I could forgive the faults if it was just 100% shooter levels
But when half of it was a slow shitty melodrama story they forced you to look at or retarded "stealth" I draw the line..

i swear shit eating bethesdrone are getting worse every time bethesda shits hot garbage in their mouth

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>>323314327
>CoD has never been slow.
it IS slow as snail compared to original DOOM and Quake games.

>>323314505
>buttons have changed therefore it's for casuals

Not being able to adapt or spew mouthshit like you do is the truly casual shit, faggot.

>>323314703
Sorry anon, not everybody is an aspie and appreciates aspie things. You'd probably be able to think clearer once you turn off the SANIC music playing 24/7.

>>323314703
doom marine runs in the speed of a rocket launcher shot

>>323314703
Yes, just like I said in the sentence after that, good job.
>>323314635
I though the story was decent... by videogame standards... which is not saying much...

I think the shooting got a lot better in The Old Blood (basically fixed bullet spongey enemies, stupidly dangerous shotgun guys, made sniper rifle good, removed the OP laser gun and redundant laser rifle), but you have to endure some admitedly retarded stealth sections to get there, and then in the late game you get stupid zombies

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>>323313183
looks to me like they brightened the colors

>>323313580
That didn't stop them from fucking up Dishonored.

>>323315246
How did they change Dishonored?

>>323314717
if you want to play Cod play cod you fucking baby
let doom be doom
and let whatever other shit game you enjoy be whatever shit game you enjoy . not a fucking copy of cod

>>323314948
actually faster

>>323315163
...Which was basically what people were asking anyway.

I think it looks better now. Brighter colours do more justice to the quality of the model and make it more visible, especially during gameplay

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>>323315374
>hurr durr cod cod cod baby shit game

Ok.

>>323314913
>everything must be a monkey island game
>so fucking slow you die of boredon
mind you i love monkey island but i don't want monkey island to be quake

>>323313387
>bethesda game
Bethesda just publish the game, they didn't put any of their incompetent developers at works for this one.

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>>323312189
>cutscene kills
>monsters dropping health and ammo
>perks and stat upgrades
>slow movement
>no real mod tools
>tryhard soundtrack
This game could be so great, but it's forced to adopt so many token modern mechanics
>developers are console scrubs
Why am I not suprised?

There is no way I will pre-order this game unless they announce REAL mod tools, not that snapmap thing that doesn't let you change the core gameplay or use custom assets.

The new art style is all right though, besides from the cyberdemon and mancubus.

>>323314948
Faster is you run in diagonal, because of vector speed

>>323313387
Bethesda is actually pretty great as a publisher regardless of their quality as a developer.

>>323314635
>I could forgive the faults if it was just 100% shooter levels

Try The Old Blood, it has 99% less plot

>>323313593
What do you think generation 0 means?

>>323314505
I can see how a Doom-purist would dislike these changes, but if you think solely in terms of "will these changes help the gameplay be fun and cool," I dont mind them at all. We'll have to wait and see.

I strongly advise AGAINST pre-ordering this because we just don't know how it'll turn out, but it definitely has my confidence

>>323315654
>monsters dropping health and ammo
It's fine as long it's balanced. As long as it isn't overkill where it's impossible to run out of ammo and health. DooM isn't about about a survival game where you have to scavenge ammunitions. Sure sometime it was a bit tense when you ran out ammo for one particular gun, but that was a rare event and most of the time you didn't really care.

Making mobs drop ammo just mean faster gameplay.Dropping health is more dubious, it will really depends on the rate and power of the health orbs.

>>323316034
What do YOU think it means anon?

>>323314040
This, sort of

The shooting was great but everything else was pretty lousy. It was the very definition of a 7/10 game

>pre-ordering
>anything
>EVER

Are you guys retarded or what?

EVEN IF IT LOOKED GOOD WHY WOULD YOU PRE-ORDER IT?

>>323316123
Then don't call things bait, it literally means a doom like shooter with health pick ups, no aim down sights, cover mechanics et cetera.

>>323314505
Except the third point, it's fine. BFG is more annoying but honetly most of the time, it was already a OH SHIT PANIC- button considering how much ammo it would swallow. Many player were reserving that to some specific situations.

>>323316262
>Then don't call things bait

Do you have brain tumours or something?

>>323315918
I'll give it a shot.

>>323316229
this

the game looks good, i'm excited
but dont fucking preorder

>>323312189
Why does everything look like it's made of plastic

This is the wrong place to discuss this game, people on /v/ just shitpost. It isn't going to be like the classic doom games and that is fine, I don't want to play a game that I've played before.

Game looks interesting, I'm definitely interested. There are too many bitter kissless virgins who migrate between r9k and /v/, you cant discuss anything with these neet cancer man children being the majority on this board.

>>323316431
shitty speculars and use of rim lights.

>>323312189
>THEY GOT RID OF THE PISS FILTER
Well yeah, the pissfilter was only in hell, to represent sulphur vapors
You guys didn't seriously expect the whole game to look like that now did you

>>323316501
Are you doing a game forum fanboy parody?

>>323316035
Completely agree.

>>323315654
>The demo ends in a flurry of attacks from barons of hell, spectres, and a summoner.
I wonder what they mean by "a summoner." I skimmed over that the first time I read the page, it doesn't seem like it's referring to the gore nest they mentioned on one of the other pages. Could it be the Doom 3-style Archvile?

>>323316229
If it's a game I already know I'm gonna get ill pre order, if it's got a bonus (like pokemon usually does) it makes it better.

>>323316587
not at all, but hell should look better than it did

and now it does

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>>323312189

>>323316723
well that's not good

>>323316358
Nice bait retard.

>>323312189
looks a lot better. Almost has a cartoony kidtoys style look to it.

>>323313387
Kind of a shame that Doom doesn't seem spooky anymore but just cheesy horror themed. But I'd probably compain either way.

>>323312189
>piss filter
post effect filters vary by level like many other games
>weapon mods
>>>/trash/

will probably be one of the better shooters in years but thats not saying much also shadow warrior 2 looks better
>inb4 le not fast

>>323316723
The loadout system is completely retarded, especially if they're allowing people to make multiplayer maps. It just halts any creative freedom and does not suit Doom's style of deathmatch.
Strafe jumping shouldn't be in Doom, it's a quake thing. Strife Running is Doom's thing, which is and even worse offence to remove.

>>323316929
the new order had weapon mods and that worked out fine

>>323316723
>they won't cater to ME
>ME ME ME
>I'll just pirate the game !


Entitled cucks, entitled cucks everywhere. Ever since TF2 became free to play you cucks have been multiplying like rabbits.

I'm gonna pre-order it right now SENPAI. Just to spite cuck NIGGERS like you.

Cringey quotes
"Few First Person shooters today play like Doom, having grown in new directions by introducing more tactical gameplay, creating open worlds, or focusing solely on multiplayer."
-2nd page, first paragraph, last sentence.


"Watching stylish runs like this brings to mind all the eye-popping combat clips I've watched from skill-oriented games like Battlefield or Dishonored over the years."
-7th page, 5th paragraph, first sentence.

http://imgur.com/a/hbZAu

>>323317043
you seem upset

>>323316846
>then don't call things bait

In order to achieve what? I wish I could personally be the one to completely fuck up your life, via maybe a brick to the skull or something, instead of the constant unceaseless decay that is happening to you day by day simply by being so fucking retarded.

>>323317042
TNO was pretty shit mate

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>>323317218

>>323317043
leave faggot

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>>323317067
>skill-oriented games like Battlefield or Dishonored

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>>323317218

>>323316906
I don't remember doom ever feeling very spooky. Maybe in that one little group of corridors where the lights flashed on and off, but that was a minor thing.

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>imp
are these guys idiots or what? It's obviously a doom 3 inspired hellkinght

>>323316984
>Strife Running

You mean the thing where running along the wall makes you run faster?

>>323317254
>>323317312
the shootan is good everything else about it was garbage rtcw still shits all over it

>>323317383
>That fucking Blur

Jesus fucking Christ we know it's done yet don't need to hide it this much for fuck sake

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>>323317383
>manlet hellknights

>>323317043
I didn't know Bethesda employed damage control marketers outside of major release times. Huh, the more you know.

But yea, tell your masters abandoning their original fanbase is only going to make this fail. Just lettin ya know now. Aside the first week boom, this is going right in the toilet if you cater to console casuals first.

>>323317502
He probably means diagonal movement being faster

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>>323317067
>reporters are stupid

Oh shit anon.

>>323317383
>>323317560
Did you notice the screen dots too? Doomguy's eyes are made up of camera lenses.

>>323317619
doesn't seems to be that small but they're definitely smaller than their doom 3 version

>>323317067
It's amazing how much you can tell about a person, their own personal gaming experience (or lack thereof), approximate age, etc. just by a single quote. This is clearly someone who has never even played Doom, certainly not at any length--probably demoed it a few years ago for 5 minutes as "research".

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>follow a porn artist on tumblr
>eventually reblogs something about Doom 4 and says "this is going to be amazing"
>I ask him, in the most polite way possible, what is it that he finds so amazing in the upcoming doom game
>later found out I'm blocked
>mfw

>>323317719
>eyes

That would be the cameras on his helmet anon.

>>323317865
what artist

>>323317619
They were never much taller than Doomguy. Doom 3 was a retcon to most things design wise.

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>>323314327
>CoD has never been slow.

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>>323317383
>hellknights don't throw fireballs
>they're generic charging bull monsters
Holy shit, these devs just do not get it do they?
>>323317719
I think it's just dirt on the helmet. It might be a cool effect so long as it's optional.

>>323317948
xopachi. he was also complaining about Mother 3, and I told him to 'git gud'.

>>323317865
>tumblr

I wish I could block you on 4chan.

>>323318082
No one hates the site just the shit people on there.

It's like hating 4chan because /mlp/ exists.

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>>323317953
For the better

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>>323318404

>>323317865
you should have asked by pretending to be excited by the way of using emotes (:D, xD, ) and saying you're "...hyped for the glory kills xD" or something.

>>323318340
But anon you don't understand you have to identify with 4chan and irrationally hate people who use other websites because you're 15 years old

>>323318340
This. Tumblr isn't bad if you stay away from the crazies. Some people on there are pretty normal. Liberals, but normal.

you are all the worst. All of these complaints are absolutely retarded

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>>323318649
Hi Marty!

that still looks like shit thery look like they are plastic models

>>323315246
I wasn't aware I should be hating dishonored.

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>>323318835
>>323318649

>>323312189
Yeah, red cacos!

This saves the game for me

>>323318649
Wow, you make an excellent point. But have you considered sucking my cock?

>>323319015
what will save the game for me is feeling like doom if it feels like anything but doom its already fucked in the asshole

>>323315654
>RPG shit
That suck but oh well

What happened to all the Gothic architecture Doom had? Even Doom 3's Hell was pretty cool, it actually seemed like hell as opposed to a bunch of brown rocks.

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>>323319207
Did you play the alpha?

>>323319457
This looks like LoL and Dota had a baby. pussyboi enemy design with Apple HQ architecture.

>>323319457
Don't want to offend anyone with demonic imagery

>>323319493
no they didnt have it on PC and i dont do multiplayer anyway

>>323317383
>>323318069
>hell knights looking like roided xenomorphs
>hell knights there, but no barons
>knights DON'T EVEN HAVE PROJECTILE ATTACKS
Have we seen Pinkies yet? If not, I think that's what they're turning Knights into, big grey Pinky demons.

>>323319493
This looks like halo but not as fun. Also the guy playing sucks at FPS in general

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>>323319493
>shotgun is only effective at point blank range

what started this meme? why does every single modern fps have to do this? shotguns used to be my favorite weapons in video games until this horseshit caught on.

>>323319493
so it's a COD/Halo clone. nothing of value was lost as there was no hype anyway.

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>>323319493
>turning into corners wide
>didn't rush the guy in the alcove with 1 shot + melee for a kill then use the wall to block shots from the 2nd guy and take him out
>instead just moves back and forward and fires then dies

>>323319821
not to mention the still laughable damage.

>>323319821
It's for balance, few games have maps big enough to warrant for more realistic shotguns
>use shotgun with slugs in BFBC2
>snipe people all over the map

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljpBwguIqos

>>323312189
>DOOM IS SAVED

Biggest lie of 2016 yet.

DOOM is doomed to be shit.

>>323312189
Who cares it will be shit.

>>323319919
It looks like Halo. How does it in any way at all look like CoD? Why are Halo and CoD lumped together when they're nothing alike? They both suck by the way.

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>>323319710
you mean besides this giant demon skull?

>>323319821
Play Gears of War

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>>323319728
In the new game informer issue they showed some concept art and the new Baron.
http://www.gameinformer.com/p/doom.aspx
The new art style looks far better than doom 3 (an they improved it since E3)

>>323320076
nice shoop

>>323320000
yeah, but why do they have to be COMPLETELY useless past 5 feet? Couldn't they just be not quite as good? Those pellets don't just disintegrate after flying a few feet.

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>>323317043
>ME ME ME

Triggered.

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>>323319493
>these webms where the guy plays with stick aiming
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>323317043
Well you'll be the one wasting your money ;^)

>>323320197
thats straight off the link retard no one is going to believe its a shoop

>>323319493
Please tell me this isn't being played with a mouse

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>>323319821
If shotguns would be realistic in games, they'd be the strongest weapon there is. The only game that could do shotguns normally would be ARMA because rifles could then shoot the 5 times the distance a shotgun can. But nowadays all games are in small corridors, realistic shotguns would be way too OP. It saddens me too, I love shotguns.

>>323315163
cacodemons are supposed to be cute and fluffy. that saddens me

>>323320218
Yeah it's a shame

>>323319728
in the alpha that was in the e3 you could barely see a pinky and if I remember right, there was also the doom3 version

It could have been worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPW0nyC7sCE

>>323320371
It obviously isn't
You can tell by how he doesn't hit shit and turns at about 1° a second

>>323315304
They didn't.

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>>323319728
>Have we seen Pinkies yet?
Yes, they're closer to their original designs. Spectres are also back, the same design just invisible of course.

>>323320463
christ

>>323313609
MachineGames aren't making DOOM

>>323319493

That looks horrid.

>That shitty aiming
>That slow as molasses

It looks like COD influence is too real for me. I wanted twichy fast running and shooting. Like real FPS games in the 90's.

>>323320463
>Doom of Duty: Modern Warfare 4

>>323316906

Doom was spooky in the early nineties, for that huge majority of first time players who were in elementary school.

Though I did not object to Doom3's decision to make demons of pure evil from literal Hell a bit spooky. The new direction seems to be a decent blend of spooky and rip and tear. I do however agree that the cyberdemo looks goofy and "eyeless monsters are scary" -has been done to death. Hell knights looked boring in Doom3, and their recycled counterparts in newDoom look equally boring.

We'll just have to hope that the new Pinkies are as spooky to adults now as they were to elementary school kids back in the day. False hope but hope still.

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>>323319728
>no barons

>>323320165
i'll agree the monsters look pretty (besides the cyberdemon) they are kinda taking the designs from doom3 (hell knight) and 64 (imp and pinky/spectre
there is no way i'm getting it at full price maybe when it's $10 like rage/TNO

>>323320463
They cancelled the version with a stronk womyn in it
this gon be fun

>>323320463
>not posting the version with better music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJrKDLii-s

>the people at id thought that this would be good
>they called it doom
>they spent years on it
>people think that neo-id has any place making an old school game

>>323313387
>people actually mistake the publisher as the developer
you stupid fuck

>>323312189
Neat

I like it when devs wise-up pre release and publically make changes like this

>>323312654
>Iron sights in classic DOOM is okay
When will this meme die?

>>323319493
I know it's "alpha", but the gunplay is so fucking bad. Guns have no kick or any satisfying feeling when you kill stuff.

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>>323320676
>all video monster must be ugly
When will this meme end?
I bet the demons won't even have any ass.

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>people actually care about MP

>>323321206
>he didn't play classic doom deathmatch

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>>323321206
>not doing SR50 SSG swingshots every day.

>>323321104
I feel the opposite, the guns felt great to me. Especially the SSG and surprisingly enough the Plasma Rifle. SSG has a good amount of punch to go with its boom and the Plasma Rifle is just satisfying to use in general, especially with its weapon mod.

>>323319493
can you also pick weapons from the ground or is it just health and armors?

>>323315842
Read what happened most recently to the Prey 2 devs, and before that to a lot of other devs
You'd be surprised the amount of EA shit they pulled.

>>323321206
I'm not a MP person at all, but playing DOOM MP is fucking GOAT

>>323321792
No, you can only hold 2 weapons + 1 tool (grenade or teleporter)

no coop / survival

no buy

dont care for pvp content

>>323321687
>SR50

It would be crazy if they actually knew what SR50 is and added that as an intentional mechanic in the game. Not "streamlined" or "easily accessible for new players" but just as it was.

>>323320000
checked

>>323321792
You can pick up power weapons like the Gauss Cannon, but the rest of the pickups are health, armor, Invisibility, Quad Damage, Demon Rune, and ammo. Based on the GI article the Rune is limited to certain game modes so there may be different modes that allow more weapon pickups.

>looking through a helmet
>no longer see pee filter
So am I wearing a helmet in Mars or Hell or not?
The fuck is wrong with all of you people

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>>323321940
w-well since they listened from the feedbacks and kinda improved the coloring there's still hope they'll change that and make the MP more arena-like, r-right?

>>323322283
They can't just magically make the MP arena like this late in development. The damage has been done. The MP will be dead on launch.

>>323322283
can you stop posting with anime images there is absolutely no reason for this shit

yes, now me and my reddit friends no longer need to pretend to not like it

>>323322418
>>323322283
i htink the multiplayer might be pretty popular on console but dead on pc
just play qauake live, reflex or UT instead

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>>323322013
The devs clearly have very little experience of playing doom if they really think that the new one is like the originals.
They couldn't even be bothered to go through the original game assets to create their promotional material. The sprite is a fan rip, not the original.

>>323322212
>can walk in mars with a helm on
>filters!!!
so astronaut's helmet have a pee filter in their helms?
honest question , not that it matters for a FUCKING VIDEO GAME about not being realistic

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D44M looks so fucking generic and boring, it's not even funny.

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>>323319493

>that GI 'article'
>constantly talking about how fast and old school and speed focused the game is now

>>323322425
I don't watch anime either but kill yourself if you're going to complain about it on 4chan of all places.

Its still a generic walk-and-shoot game.

It was revolutionary in 1993, but its fucking stale

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>>323322730

I never thought I'd see the day where they could actually fuck up a Doom game. It's the most fundamental FPS franchise out there.
>spawn in a level
>kill everything
>next level

that's all Doom needs to be.

>>323322618

Hmm... is there something significantly different about the fan rip sprite? I think there are plenty of things to complain about when it comes to newDoom but that's pretty weak imo.

I think I have really grown old when people think this will be a good game, anywhere near as good as actual Doom or Quake games
you may enjoy this redditors, with your pleb taste I guess it can't be helped, but know this: this game is nothing like a good FPS which you know nothing about

>>323322693
it probably has BLUE FILTER in their helmet
>still stands

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>>323322973
>DOOM
>"walk and shoot"
You've never played Doom, I assume?
Shit's so revolutionary TODAY, that fucking K0taku has to make articles about its amazing "inventory system", and about it using more than two colors.

>>323323109
You forgot cryptic 3D puzzle-like maps with secrets some people still haven't found 23 years later.

>>323323080
It's like they took shotgun from the original, kept the damage, but only made it viable to use if you're right up against them.

Unironically saying "piss filter" should be a bannable offense.

>>323322283
An outside team is developing the multiplayer. I don't think Zenimax will shell out more money to change the multiplayer.

>>323323080
>fps on a console

>>323315842
Jesus you're retarded. Bgs is completely separate from Bethesda the publisher

>>323323379
Unironically: piss filter

>>323317043
>People don't want to buy a game that doesn't appeal to them
If that's entitled and unreasonable what do you call expecting people to buy a game they don't want?

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>>323322789
Hello, fellow Gamers.
I'm in love with the new Doom game from ID Software. It is so fast and Old School, it's as if it is a return to the originals. No other game on the market plays like it.
It is without a doubt one of the most anticipated games of 2016.
It's looks slow, but once you play it is't like a constant barrage of enemies, such as the charging Hell Knights and the rocket spamming Revenant!
The modding suite called SNAPMAP is so in depth, I could even fill the map with enemies with the press of a single button!

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>>323323351
I guess they copied the Doom3's shotgun. Literally can't hit shit with it unless you're already tickling the enemy's nostrils with the barrel.

Also:
>gun butt melee
>Select loadout
>quick grenades
>enemy direction & hit-indicator pointers

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>>323322618
Go back to your containment thread, or better yet stop posting this, you major autist. Like literally no one but you cares about this.

Are the chainsaw attacks still just short cutscenes?

>>323323351
The first time I played a game that had a shotgun in it, ie. Doom, I thought to my 7yo self: "Hey, that's a neat idea. A gun that shoots many bullets at the same time so that you can kill many things at once" -Today most shotguns in games are meant for shooting many pellets into a single target from point blank. Old id Software games had shotguns for multi-killing.

>>323323080

I guess the closest comparison I can think of is Halo or Destiny but it looks way shittier and slower than either. What the fuck are they even doing.

>>323323208
It's more of a symbolic point. Someone with some insane pattern recognition pointed it out.
I suppose it just shows how they couldn't be arsed to sift through the original game files, despite the WAD format essentially being a zip file.

>>323323332
>with secrets some people still haven't found 23 years later
what

>>323322212
>>323322693
I don't know about astronauts or anything but during the part of the E3 demo where Doomguy puts his helmet on it does start off as you'd expect with the vision's color being affected by the visor but once the "Boot Sequence" completes its calibrations it clears the visor off, giving him a clear, unobstructed view of the world around him.

So that's the in-game explanation for his visor not affecting his view, anyway.

>>323313183
oh hey. thats me. im RatCasket.

>>323323628
that seriously looks exactly like Halo but with a darker and redder color palette.

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Why?

>>323315304
They forced Arkane to dumb down lots of areas due to retarded playtesters, it's why the Daud dlc is harder and more fun than the base game as Bethesda had less input on it.

>>323324001
I believe that. The DLC was a LOT better than the base game.

>>323321040
They make no difference really. I never use them.

Reloading is kinda lame, but there's ways to get rid of that.

Why is it so slow? UT4 might be inferior to 2k4 but at least they tried.

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>>323323837
tfw killing a room of imps and zombies with a single SSG shot

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Just play Unreal Tournament 4

>>323323996
Halo did it as a balance issue and everyone immediately jumped on that bandwagon because apparently copying Halo's features will automatically make any kind of FPS good.

It doesn't help pretty much all game devs are numales who have probably never even seen a gun up close before.

>>323323996
muh balans

>>323323996
Balance. Weapons in an FPS need to fill niches or they end up being redundant or useless.

>>323323859

Okay maybe it's just me but I'm really picky when it comes to resizig pixel art, and my first thought about someone not using original assets but something else instead in this context was that maybe the ripped version had a resolution more suitable for 2x, 4x etc point filter resizing.

But not that I actually think about it, I doubt many people are as autistic as me when it comes to pixel art and resizing. Especially some promo art hack who probably couldn't care less if a resized sprite in promo art gets resampling artifacts from using the wrong algorithms or arbitrary multipliers.

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>>323316723

>no strafejump
fuck id and their console shit

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>>323323845
>What the fuck are they even doing.
"introducing DOOM to the whole new generation, and appealing to old fans too!"

>>323323787
yep

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>>323320371
If characters move and turn like they're knee-deep in molasses it means it's sticks (gamepad)

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>>323323595

>It feels like we're going to be introducing a whole new generation of players to what Doom is all about

>>323324169
>Why is it so slow

The single-player promotional videos are probably intentionally made slow-like to demonstrate the visuals, you know, with slooow deliberate analog stick panning, but that doesn't explain MP footage.

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>>323317043

strong bait, I resepect your craft, you take shitposting seriously.

>caring about multiplayer in a Doom game
If this were Quake I could see making a fuss about it but Doom has always been about the god-tier single player.

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still relevant

>>323321104
I thought the gunplay felt great.

>>323324771
No, it's always been mixture of good single player and multiplayer, like all good games have

Quake is better for MP, but that's not to say that Doom is at least as good

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>>323324771
A full server of deathmatch is such fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOx4RqrFW00
The new game does even feel like it's trying to recreate the style of this.

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I think the singleplayer will be solid okay Dishonored-tier casual fun.
The multiplayer looks like Halo with worse weapons, worse maps and no vehicles.

>>323325640
Can you create your own servers?

>>323319969

Yep, sounds like console plebs.

haven't seen shilling this heavy in a long time, this going to release soon or are people just having a giggle here?

>>323325839
Yep
http://www.best-ever.org/

>>323325673

Middle looks more like Michael Ironside

Daily reminder that
Doom 2 > Doom

>>323326362
>muh super shotgun
nah Doom 1 is better.

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>>323312189
>no piss filter
unfuckingbelievable

>>323326362
Knee Deep in the Dead > everything in Doom 2 > Inferno > Shores of Hell > Thy Flesh Consumed

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>>323320002
The audience screams"OOOOOO!!!!!!!" and"WOOOOAAAAH!!" for every cinematic kill.

>>323326029
eh I meant the Doom 4 Alpha. I'm wondering if custom servers can be set up to have higher sprinting/running speeds. Rage has console commands for that so it should be possible with D4 also, considering both share same engine.

>>323323976

Yeah, it looks like fucking garbage.

>>323323976
Movement speed is definitely faster than Halo's. Looks like crap regardless.

>>323323976
I thought it was Halo 4/5.

>>323323628
>grenades
Fucking why?

I really liked Halo MPs back in Halo 2 days, but it's not really what Doom is about. At least tell me the shotguns and bullet-weapons are still hitscan-based?

>>323323976

Ironically, Halo 4 is actually darker and redder than any other Halo game. Even 5.

>>323325640
>dat Halo armor

They really couldn't come up with a design that's similar to the the Doom/Doom 3 armor?

>>323316692
But why pre-order? It was excusable in the past when certain, emphasis on few, games had limited prints but you know they aren't going to run out of copies of this shit in this day and age. Just don't be a nigger and save the money to buy it on launch day.

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>>323320773
>Electronic Arts it's just publishing it ;))))))
>they have no actual power over the development of the game and the software house ;)))))))))

>>323325673
>Dishonored-tier
looks like they are kinda going for painkiller/sw2013 wave spawn arena type of thing for singleplayer (i could be wrong though)
really not the direction to take it ....

>>323327972
they might have the power to make changes but they don't actually make the game.

>>323326603
Thy Flesh Consumed had some of the best maps in Doom 1.

>>323314505
I dont know about others but the bfg was already something i used as a panic button, so making it a literal panic button is fine by me

>>323327718

The problem is that if you were to design a futuristic combat armor for a space-age GI with superhuman abilities, what you'd end up with would be something resembling Chief's armor. Because it's a pretty realistic design. On Mars however it should have an brownish orange color, but then it wouldn't be Doomguy's green armor.

>Game
>Game 2
>Game 3
>Game

Why couldn't they just call it Doom 4?

>>323328284

The difficulty is all over the place however. You go from nice to nightmarish to a joke to nice again.

>>323315163
...... the dull color looks more intimidating.... shit. too much saturation now. lol.

>>323320676
>>323321134
>Ugly
Anon..

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>>323328175
You're right, anon, they don't actually make the game, they kill it along with the developer

>>323319821
To add variety to the game, the problem lies in them doing shit damage once you actually get that close.

>>323320402
sup robotjoe

>>323327796
Because he's already getting it no matter what.

Even if people say it's shit he'll get it because it looks fun and nostalgia speaks.

I'm pre-ordering too.

If you already know you're buying it, not pre-ordering is just grandstanding for your own satisfaction, it doesn't change anything.

>>323323996
TF2 shotguns master race.

>>323328502
Because DOOM1&2 means nothing to 80% of potential buyers, while DOOM3 only means something to about 50% and they are taking a completely different direction

>>323328502
Cause they want you to forget about the old games and only think of their game! :^)

>>323326759
Why are cinematic kills a thing

>PRESS BUTTON
>DIFFERENT ANIMATION
>WOW

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>>323312654
Brutal Doom is not Fun
Only good mod with Ironsights is Trailblazer

>>323329465
casuals love it

>>323328502
probably because a new doom player is more likely to pick up a "doom" than a "doom 4"
Plus, it's not really a sequel, it's more of a reboot.

>>323328502

Shareholders. People who have no idea what they're doing get to make the biggest decisions when it comes to the marketing of the products of their publishers. For a little over a decade all of them have been under the delusion that bigger sequel numbers drive sales down, even though they fail to realize that popularity is what makes sequels and people generally just buy sequels these days anyway. They think that they need to fool people into buying what they think is original new IP when it isn't because they don't know that sequels are actually the more popular thing that sells better.

In Carmack's day, id knew what it was all about. They knew Doom3 sounds better than just Doom, even though it legitimately was a remake and not a sequel.

>>323324261
Was not the first tho

>>323329517
>it's more of a reboot.
that's even worse

>>323324524
Is this a bad thing?

We have not had a proper PC Halo since Combat Evolved

I don't think how much "saved" it is if it has a very mary sue combat system.

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>>323324895
I have a feeling that game devs don't actually play the games they copy past a surface level.

>>323330515
I feel like they understand normies can't tell the difference so they can get away with doing this bullshit with the same amount of profit.

>>323323332
>With secrets some people haven't found 23 years later.

I agreed with you up until that point. 100% both games already, nothing uncovered. Plus with how modable the game is, anything left to discover has already been discovered.

>>323329465
>>323329516
Don't they only occur when you depleted an enemy's health? How are they any more casual than the standard death animations the originals had? The problem with the scripted kills is that they slow the game down, not that they're "casual".

>>323324201
99 and 2k4 are better.

>>323330953
They don't look particularly cool, just put you in a vulnerable position, and usually get repetitive, and if they're not the time spent working on them could have been spent on something that actually affects the gameplay.

>>323329712
>Is this a bad thing?
YES.
>We have not had a proper PC Halo since Combat Evolved
And THAT was a GOOD thing.

DOOM and HALO should be as far from each other as possible, design-wise.

>>323330867
I've never 100% any of the DOOM games.
I only learned how to 100% the E1M1 in D1 last year.

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>>323328641
>implying the original Barons where not handsome

>Bethesda were good at making RPGs
>Eventually the mainstream casuals caught on and they loved it
>But they complained about how "gamey" they felt
>In response Bethesda casualized the games
>This improved their sales significantly due to (or rather despite) being simpler
>But people still complained
>So they cut even more of the RPG aspects out of the games

So now we have Bethesda. Who are (were) only really good at making RPGs. Not making any significant RPGs anymore.
And now they want to try making shooters with Fallout and Doom. But they suck at making Shooters. Other developers does shooters a lot better.
But they are Bethesda. The games will be the best selling games for years to come no matter if they aren't RPGs and no matter how sub par they are as shooters. They are Bethesda made games after all.
>The bugs makes it better
>9/10

>>323312189

Still looks like console shit.

Not buying it, fuck off.

Doom looks so goddamn slow. There are still modern games where you can go fast so Doom has zero excuse.

>>323333246
Beth were SHIT at making RPGs.
That being said, they were good at making open-world autism simulators. They still are. But they try to implement different genres into the games, which makes it "accessible to a wider audience" or whatever the fuck the term is, and that's why modern bethesda games are shit. That and the fact that they're literally lying in advertising and marketing, and they don't get ANY shit for it. It just comes off as a joke.

>>323319493
lmao is this walking or running speed?

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>>323333049
Cyber ass > Baron ass

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>>323334086
>Beth were SHIT at making RPGs.
No. The RPG aspects were still solid up until Oblivion. Even if they casualized the games.

>>323334503
the default jogging speed.

>>323334792
Until and including.

>people complaining about slow multiplayer
Nigga, have you played Doom multiplayer recently?
The thing is, there's no way they'd make a game where you can run up to somebody, shoot em with a ssg and be gone in less than a second. Console players and retards wouldn't play it because it's too fast. What were you expecting? The same multiplayer experience where your only viable gun choice will be ssg and bfg?

It's all down to singleplayer/co-op now. If you can't have more than 30 enemies on screen, I'll be disappointed.

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>>323334679
Cacodemon Cloaca >>> All else

>>323312189
Carmack and Romero have nothing to do with this game, right?

I want to be excited but it doesn't feel the same if they aren't involved in some capacity.

>>323336596

>H Doom

>>323331062
They are also dead

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>>323334906

>level scaling and loot scaling
>good

>>323337838
Very few games truly die. You can make a thread at any time with a download link and server IP and bored /v/irgins will come.

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>>323336775
>Updates aren't even at crawl speed now

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>>323336669
According to Carmack the last thing he worked on before leaving id was SnapMap. Romero hasn't been id-relevant in forever.

>>323335603
>If you can't have more than 30 enemies on screen, I'll be disappointed.
I do wonder what the biggest swarm of enemies will be for singleplayer and how many you can jam into SnapMap.

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>>323316723

remind me when strafejumping was ever in doom

>>323323649
>muh League of Legends

>>323339225
doom 3

>>323316906
Only doom 3 was supposed to be spooky.
Doom 1 and 2 were Metal.

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>>323322425

>>323317963
In terms of raw movement speed, yeah it's pretty slow. But the action is fast paced due to the low ttk, overpowered killstreaks, instant spawns and awful spawning system that always puts you right next to an enemy for some goddamn reason.

You're pretty much always in the heat of battle at all times because of this stuff.

>>323326759
>people who see shit like this on a daily occurrence are pretending to act impressed

That or Bethesda hired a bunch of people to fill seats and cheer. Probably the same people who cheered at being able to be a woman in Fallout 4, you know the thing that's been in the series since the first fucking game.

>>323341068
people cheered because there was a rumor that you couldn't play female.

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>>323323080
>>323322730
>>323319493
FUCKING DUMB ASS, INCOMPETENT, WESTERN-FAGGOT DEVELOPERS!

Would it kill them to just do something that needs(give real old school doom fans some arean shooting) to be done instead of what a bunch of casuals want?!

Again this is just why japan will always dominate the gaming world and i am completely ok with it.

Ironinc how splatoon is the best shooter to be released in the last decade and is its own thing and we all know nintnedo patented the fuck out of it cause they are smart.

2016 sony domination cant come soon enough!


>>323321206
YEAH WE WANTED SOME OLD SCHOOL ARENA SHOOTER GOODNESS!

>mfw this horse shit ass MP

Faces 3 and 6 from left to right starting at the top left picture

>>323316906
>But I'd probably compain either way.
This should be put at /v/'s heading in big red text because thats all people ever do here.

>>323323903
yes, SOIME.
As in most people don't even come close to 100%

>>323341839
>nintnedo patented the fuck out of it cause they are smart
Because the concept of painting the map to score points is such an original idea.

>>323336669
Carmack developed iDtech 6 and helped with the direction of the reboot after they scrapped the "Call of Doom" build. He said that Doom is ultimately about shotguns and demons

>>323329494
KAKATTE KOI

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>>323342380
I did it as badly as I could ;_;

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>>323341839
>Would it kill them to just do something that needs(give real old school doom fans some arean shooting) to be done instead of what a bunch of casuals want?!
Developers and publishers are private companies which will always chase money. The bigger you get, the more money you need to keep the lights on. This means more profits, more sales, and so on.
There are companies that exist to target specific niches, such as Paradox with the Grand Strategy games they release. These do really well on the PC platform, due to cheap distribution and the established gaming counterculture that the PC market always had.
>Again this is just why japan will always dominate the gaming world and i am completely ok with it.
Japan has been seeing less influence over video gaming, less sales of Japanese games overall. Konami got out, Sega's gone, Nintendo's up shit creek without a paddle.
>Ironinc how splatoon is the best shooter to be released in the last decade and is its own thing and we all know nintnedo patented the fuck out of it cause they are smart.
While I certainly applaud the unique idea of the game, the quality of the title isn't the greatest in the last decade. Not when it shares a decade with games like Insurgency, Killing Floor, Red Orchestra, Dirty Bomb, Fear, Shadow Warrior, Wolfenstein.
>2016 sony domination cant come soon enough!
With all irony, the PC market is sustaining and gaining. The console market is heading to a bubble collapse. The niche market of gaming enthusiasts is sustainable due to the slow, organic growth of hobby industries. Milennials are finding ways to spend their money outside their homes and educations now, and the first thing people think of is video games.
And the first out of that is the best video game setups they can get their hands on. That means PC.

Likewise those who aren't interested in gaming as a hobby are moving away from unitaskers like consoles and more into mobile devices and browser games.

>>323329465
>why are animations a thing

faggot

>>323312189
Thats nice...not sure if I like cacodemons having arms though...

>>323314703
At least post a fucking .webm if you want to show off speed.

>>323345024
Holy shit you type like an ass ravaged autist.

Also
>consoles
>simplicity
They're just shitty PCs.

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>>323345543
HOLY SHIT YOU ARE REALLY RETARDED!

>Console not simple

PC require constant maintenance and upgrades while consoles last for decades without having to be touched or worried about in the slightest.

Yes console are shitty PCs,but they are easy to operate and don't require maintenance you dumb PC faggot!

God, /v/, PC faggots like you are nothing but the biggest group of posers on 4chan.

You fags claim to be PC elitist when you are noting but a bunch of autist obsessed with nude mods and textures.

You are the definition of a man-child!

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>>323347208
>too stupid to maintain a computer in 2016
>calls other people dumb

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>>323345024
You sound like you're mad. You should probably go outside and get some fresh air. Maybe visit a website where people are encouraged to agree with you via website functions like post voting.

The fact is that PC gamers do buy games, I've got 149 games on my Steam profile, 6 on my GoG profile, and god knows how many old discs lying around in a box at the back of my closet before Steam became my main library.

Yes, a $1000 rig is going to be better than a $400 console. The consoles are currently made of old, out of date tech. Dumping a grand on a new PC with a vid card that runs dx11 or dx12 will blow the shit out of anything you can get on a console.

Yes, PC will always cater to niche games and to hobbyist gamers. That's the strength of it. And that's the type of "gamer" you're professing yourself to be, the sort that cares for complex games. And who plays a lot of them. Associating the word "millennial" with anything bad (like "casual") only further shows your attempt to lower the level of discussion.
Most of 4chan consists of millennials. Twenty-somethings.

You then go on to talk about the casual market as if it were a good thing for the AAA big box development companies. "Millennials are the casual market devs cater to". That idea is bunk, and you know it.

At this point, you seem desperate to prove your point, but you string together a bunch of logical fallacies and expect me to get mad. All you're doing is wasting your time.

>consoles will always dominate gaming"
Well, actually, mobile right now is still growing fast. So are browser games. And both of those are even more simple than consoles, compatible with smart TVs, and handle most of a person's daily activities and social functions.

The console is going to be killed by phones.

Meanwhile there is still need for a powerful PC that can do much more work than a phone can. And that means PCs don't lose to being a unitask device.

>>323323996
people keep parroting shit like this but the ssg in doom 2 spread like the top image and was completely useless 5 feet away unless fighting zombies which at that point the sg is better suited

>>323331062
i would agree with you if UT4 was claimed finished, what with a lack of gametypes and other fun stuff. however UT4 plays much better than both 99 and 2k4

>>323322013
actually if they werent autistic they could figure out the fact that implementing strafe running would make introduction of a skill based movement on console shooters possible (and could bring them a fucktons of cash in return), as opposed to quake/cs bunnyhoping which is literally unattainable on gamepad