Plot twists that make you want to punch the writers

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>the whole goal of the game wasn't there to begin with/was destroyed

The entire time you were just unlocking the last boss thinking you were saving the world. (Brave Fencer Musashi).

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>>323306295
>You're actually the bad guy

>villain actually destroys the world
>god said fuck you to the villain

>>323307526
Dr2 did this well

>main character used to read word up magazine

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>The boss is your son/father/brother/uncle

>you are killed by inferior beings

>>323307853
dangan ronpa 2?

>>323306295
Tell that to Biodrones. They not only insisted ME3s ending was this but that Bioware was "brilliant" because of it and if you disagreed you were an idiot.

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>>323306295

>>323306295
I like it in link's awakening

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>it was a dream the whole time
>everything leading up to that point had no dream like qualities, or else the twist would be ruined.

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>Your entire universe was created by a scientific expreriment by some narcisist scientist fuck
>That experiment also caused that our actual universe was destroyed in the process
>That scientist now is the "God" of that new universe
>Now you have to reclaim your place as the new God if you don't want your world and your friends to die and also fixing your new universe so it doesn't sagnate and die.

I actully liked it but the last part of the story fell under the same JRPGs cliches and tropes that the story trayed so hard to avoid during the first 2/3 of the game

>>323306295

>game forces you to kill a friend

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>>323306295
>Antagonist isn't main antagonist

>Bad guy has killed a shit tonne of people
>You kill a shit tonne of enemies just to get to him
>for some reason you don't kill the bad guy because you don't want to stoop to his level

>>323311458
I don't know if Vaas counts but that really pissed me off

>The Big Bad was actually trying to save the world from an Even Bigger Bad who wasn't foreshadowed at all in the rest of the game.
>Everyone forgives the Big Bad for all of bad he did to everyone and he just seamlessly becomes another generic good guy.

>>323311578

what games?

>the whole time instead of playing as the protagonist of the series you were actually playing as some random unimportant background character from the previous game that no one gave a shit about

>>323311578
Infinite Space comes to mind.

>>323311649
Almost all AAA hyped trash that's released every year.

>>323311739

but that's not a plot twist, what the fuck?

>>323311458
>Kill the main villain
>story is completely wrapped up
>"YO I JUST CAME FROM NOWHERE AND YOU'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF ME BEFORE BUT I'M THE REAL FINAL BOSS"

Fuck you FFIX

>I used to read word up magazine

>>323311970
FF IV was pretty much like that too

>Character dies a completely unnecessary death that you could have easily prevented in-game
>Written as a cutscene you can't change no matter what you do.

>>323311003
must subvert and embrace at the same time.

>Final boss is actually some random asspull god
Pretty much every FF.

>>323306295
Yeah, in evil within it ruined the rest of the game for me, even with the "if you die in the dream you die in real life" shit

>>323312770
You didnt understand the story

>>323312334
I couldn't make it to the end of the after years

>>323311970

Pokemon Gold & Silver

it was an inside an autistic kids snowglobe.

>>323307249
the first law went down a few tiers on my head because of this

>>323312457
>not 1
>not 2
>not 5
>not 6
>not 7
>not 8
>not 12

Yeah man, you nailed it.

>>323311458
Literally Zelda TP

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>No Fayt, you are the video games

>It was all a computer simulation

Though I think Digital Devil Saga did it okay but holy fuck they drew out the reveal of that twist when it was obvious from the start.

>you're actually not playing who you think you're playing

thanks kojimbo

>>323306295
>you were playing in to the bad guys plans all along

>tfw don't really see the big problem about 'it was all a dream'

dreams can be pretty rad

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>You die in a cutscene in the ending

There are so few games that properly justify killing your character, let alone using a cutscene.

>>323315401
So, MGS3?

>>323311458
Every final fantasy.

Like.

Litey every one.

>>323307943
Underrated

It's specific to Fallout 4, but the inability of your character to grasp that more time had passed after they were obviously refrozen was fucking retarded. All the shit they did to obfuscate that fact was just grating.

>>323314946
Rekt his shit

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>>323315656
>There is a cutscene and/or QTE in lieu of a final boss fight

>>323315660
3???

>>323306295
>It was all just a dream
This is only acceptable when it turns out you're a cashier at Tesco's

>>323316081
Yeah, we're not playing as Solid Snake, but as his identical-looking father, Big Boss.

>>323316151
That was clear from the beginning. Why would you think you're solid snake?

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>game appears to be a dream, with lots of weird shit going on
>it's actually real life, not a dream

>>323316272
Because we have no reason besides the dates to consider that Solid Snake didn't look like that in the 60s.

>>323311907
but the game doesn't tell you until the last mission, and nothing happens as a result of it

>>323316483
Seriously dude?

>>323316585
Yeah.

>>323306295
You know playing Psychonauts right now and I realize DmC really took a lot of inspiration from it with collect-athon and stage design.

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>>323306295
Driver SF handled it pretty well though.

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>>323316409
>game is fucking up killing likable characters left and right
>"it's okay, it's just a dream"
>it's actually not
WAKE ME UP

>>323316483
Solid snake didn't look like that in the 60s because he didn't exist, that's a pretty good reason

>>323311458
Kinda felt like that with dragon quest 8, half the time I thought it was dholmagua or whatever, then it just turns out to be some fatty

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>>323307249

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>No matter what you do, you cannot get the best ending on your first playthrough.

>>323316862
What if it was a Virtual mission?

>>323311491
Kek,I hate games that do this

>>323311649
Chrono trigger in a way

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>>323311458
>Kingdom Hearts
>Almost the end of the story going against Maleficent and Riku as the final battles
>Outta fucking nowhere "ANSEM" shows up
>mfw

Fuck did they think

>>323317091

I can easily forgive Chrono Trigger since they revealed Lavos pretty early on. The problem is mostly with games that introduce a completely new enemy right at the end.

However, why on earth was everyone so chill about Magus? That part was bothersome.

>>323315656
Would you say Dragon Age: Origins justified it well? It was only one option and easily avoidable.

>>323315146
Really damaged an otherwise very fun game.

>>323307526
mgs5

>>323317280
>Outta fucking nowhere
>when he's been shown pulling the strings in cutscenes throughout the game

>>323317351
Right? Especially Glenn, I would have been pissed but no he was just like, don't fight me and I'll join you.....okay? Wtf.

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>>323317517
Fuck
Youuuuuuuu

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>>323307526
>the main character is actually the bad guy
>my fucking slappy ham when
One of the best twists in vidya.

>just playing through the game normally as the protagonist
>halfway through the game the main character betrays YOU, THE PLAYER, and becomes an antagonist
>you switch to (and now play as) the next-most-important character in the party, who has now turned into the main protagonist of the game

Man that twist was great.

>U WER DA BAD GUY ALL ALAWNG
Looking at you Yoko Taro, you hack.

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>>323315401
>you're actually a transdimensional perspective attracted by the main cast to save them at the end

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>>323318313
>the game lets you keep playing as the antagonist and kill the other protagonists

>>323318313
What game?

>>323306295
>Read 120 hours long murder mystery VN
>After the halfway point MC starts lusting for the girl who killed his entire family
>Turns out she is a boy
>Also his uncle due to grandpa rape
>Also has multiple personalities and crossdreses so he is in a relationship with both MC's male and female cousin
>This somehow counts as motive for murder
>MC forgives him
>Main theme changes to how you are a terrible person for wanting to find out the culprit and not being sad for peopel being dead
>The sentnence "without love it cannot be seen" gets spouted multiple times like it actually means something
>Fans get mad and claim that the motive is stupid and that there is no way people wouldn't notice the culprit was the same person
>The author replies with "lol you clearly lack love if you think that"

>>323318597
Baten Kaitos

>>323318313
That's what I was referencing in the post right before yours. Good taste.

>>323316895
By the mid-game it became rather obvious that he was not the baddie but was being controlled by the staff.

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>>323318597

>>323306295
There's one exception.

https://youtu.be/j3FyHiiGcxw?t=53s

>>323317280
They spent the entire game pimping Ansem as a character, though. The reveal that he was a villain all along shocked my 12 year old brain.

>>323318916
>>323319030
Thanks lads, now I know what I'll start this weekend.

>>323318841
What VN?

I want to die from stupidity.

>>323319085
How was Monster Party allowed uncensored on the NES?

>>323319178
The first game is pretty slow and has an awful dub.
The second game (Origins) made a ton of improvements, but doesn't have dat twist.

>>323319178

Prepare for a lot of very boring, generic story and characters.
Game's fun, though.

>>323319178

Have fun dude. Just expect a slow JRPG with bad voice-acting. Play its sequel/prequel as well though, it plays a lot faster and has better voice-acting, but the story is a bit worse.

>>323318841
goat detected

>>323311649
Kirby's Adventure, Dragon Age (depending on your choices).

>>323319184
Umineko
The first half is 10/10 if you get past the slow start but the author best friend died while he was writing part 2
I don't really regret wasting 120 hours on it since the ride was fun but it was pretty stupid

>>323319715

Re-reading my own post it is a bit too negative: it has insanely good music, good battle-system (first time through) and great atmosphere.

>>323319178
Make sure you teach yourself how decks properly work like not using clashing elements in the same turn (say, Fire and Water cards). Also make sure you find the thing that allow you to 'level' your decks or however it works. Been years since I've played it.

>>323319853
>Umineko
I liked Higurashi, is this one really as bad as you make it sound?

>>323314946
>Chaos
>Pandemonium
>not random gods
Not that anon, but come on, nigga.

>>323311649
Tales of Symphonia with all the half elfs in the first half of the game.

>>323319938

Yeah, that game is a mixture of very good and very bad. It's like nothing is average or mediocre. It's easy to make it sound like it's either terrible or phenomenal

>>323319393
>>323319646
>>323319715
I found an undub, so I think I'll be fine. And I really dig slow paced RPGs. Now I'll pray it emulates well on my toaster.

>>323320154
Not that guy, but in my opinion it went full pants on head retarded in Chiru. The first half is really good, so read at least that.

>>323315401
>Thinking you are BB after minute 10
Am I retarded.gif

>>323315610
I once had to write a short story for class in 2nd year and even I knew it was a shitty cliché when I used it.

>>323318313
Didnt ass creed 3 do this?

>>323311578
I know it's not vidya but it pissed me of how scar became friend of everybody in fma: brotherhood and the manga

>>323320154
Umineko has boring parts and fucking amazing parts
If you enjoy phoenix wright you should enjoy all the logic and battles of wits
Music is 10/10 though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAKkw71ff3U
If you can't handle the bad sprites you can try teh ps3 patch

>Your not actually dying of a a virus you've had for nine years.
>You are still going to die within six months thou

Great. Thanks exposition dad.

>>323320784
Wipe this meme from the face of the earth?

Is that really how DmC ended? Because I wouldn't be mad if it was

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>>323320784
Mgs4?

>>323306295
>You thought you were this extra super special VR mission soldier
>Nope, he was a badass child soldier feared by grown men in Africa raised by a clone of the legendary Big Boss
>Fucker throws your dog tag away to signify he's free of being controlled by YOU

>the world is a human and you were a virus killing it the whole time

>>323321071
That makes me want to hug kojima though

>>323321018
Kind of
Humanity wakes up from the illusion demons were casting on them
So not really.

>>323321043
>>323321003
Course.

And don't forget

>I was only pretending to be liquid!

>>323306295
>It wasn't a dream despite a lot of implications that it would be
>Instead it was a government experiment

>>323320439
I thought the game was implying that so hard it couldn't possibly be the real twist.

>>323306295
SUDDENLY CHIM OUT OF NOWHERE

>>323306295
>you were on earth the whole time
>teh kek was a lie ;)

>>323306295
Character joins your party. Has a whole bunch of useful skills and is generally a pretty good member.
So naturally either:

1. For some contrived reason he/she's taken out and can't be used later in the game where it would be helpful.
2. Flat out doesn't stay with your party for whatever reason, even if his/her help would be greatly appreciated against bosses,
3. Is in fact a villain all along.(I'm looking at you SRW. Ingram, Levin, Advent. Is it so much to ask to have an ally character who is on the fucking level with you?)

>>323323917
>Game where you can usually sway any unique good looking and morally decent boss to your side.
>Always has that one boss who you have to kill in cold blood