>>323265996 Its like you don't understand that having a crash won't create a better environment for devs. It just means less games and eventually it will come back to the point where it once was with enough time.
>Hurr durr the industry needs to crash again >I unironically enjoy Kingdom Hearts >I play a moba >I play Team Fortress 2 >I play a modern blizzard game >Spec Ops: The Line is a good game with good writing >Fallout Post 2 or any Elder Scrolls game is good >DmC is a good game comparitively to DMC1,3 or 4 >MGS4 and/or Peace Walker are better than any other MGS mainline game >Now that Episode VII is out I am going to come out and say that I unironically enjoyed the prequels and they are better than TFA
>WoW was a good game Not only was it a bad MMO, it was a popular bad MMO that everyone copied the shitty ideas from. It's the Lord of the Rings of the MMO world, no one deviates from it, and when they do, it's ignored.
>>323263898 >the Wii is one of n Nintendo's greatest consoles in anything other than sales >X is the best or even a good final fantasy game >I'm looking forward to XV >I buy Sony/Microsoft/Apple products. >I buy preorders, dlc, amiibo's or games/systems day one
>>323266608 /tv/ basically broke over TFA now there are people who unironically say the prequels had "heart" and dumb shit like that.
Millenials are too young to realize how fucking shit the Prequels were, and now they're sperging out over ebin new star wars.
They didn't have heart. They had Hubris. Lucas' belief that his shit don't stink, and he wouldn't take a single complaint or criticism and what was worse he was so surrounded by Yes Men at the Lucas ranch that nobody stood up and said ALL OF THIS IS TERRIBLE. JUST, TERRIBLE.
>"dark souls is the best souls game" >"there's nothing wrong with DLC" >"games need multiplayer" >"exclusives are bad" >"witcher 3 is shit" >"bloodborne is shit" >"fallout by bethesda is good" >">be me" >"i'm black"
If any post I see mentions any of this shit, I just completely disregard it.
>I let a games bad fanbase ruin my enjoyment of that game >Stop sucking Platinum's dick >The thing I play games on is better than the thing you play games on >Homecoming/Downpour wasn't that bad >Hideo Kojima/Hideki Kamiya/Yoko Taro is a hack >Dark Cloud 1 is better than Dark Cloud 2 And every form of "you aren't allowed to like what I don't like" under the sun.
I feel like everyone that wants another crash simultaneously has no idea how the video game industry works and doesn't realize that if anything is gonna crash it'll just be certain subsets rather than the entire medium and that something like that won't cause these sweeping changes they want.
I also think these people are just jaded assholes that refuse to give anything a try. I wouldn't call The Last of Us "the citizen kane of gaming" but it's a solid title. 2015 had a damn good year with both indie games and AAA titles. You just need to learn to expand your horizons a little bit.
It has a cohesive plot, it's well paced, it has characters that don't sound and act like autistic robots with understandable motivations. It has action scenes that aren't cluttered as fuck and the lightsaber fights looks like actually fights and not some fucking CGI ballerina shit devoid of emotion.
>>323269332 Your point? If the industry crashes its not like more people would suddenly pop up making games. There are already tons of devs who do care about making good games out there. Most people here are just too retarded to look past whatever /v/ is currently shitting on/worshiping
>>323263898 >mgs >complaining about dice rolls in morrowind >1upt is great/combat in civ5 is good >noobs cant handle doomstacks/combat in civ4 is better >rolling is good >assfaggots require no skill >I swear d3/sc2/wow is good now >wow wasn't shit in tbc
>>323266318 People who hate the prequels fall into one of three camps.
1. Reddit teenagers who think "prequels suck" because the internet told them to think that. Their brains are literally not developed enough to form opinions outside of groupthink.
2. People who were edgelord teenagers when the prequels came out and "hated" them because they hated everything. Probably just unintelligent in most matters.
3. Baby boomers who won't accept anything but Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill.
The prequels are excellent science fiction movies. Objectively, there is no reason to dislike them.
A narrator for children. You might as well hate C3PO too.
>too much politics
Lucas was trying to explain his world and tell a story. If you're really just after POPCORN XD, there are plenty of other shitty franchises to watch.
Star Wars always has had and always will have overwrought dialogue, because it is modeled as an epic. In fact, any dialogue involving the force is infinitely more ridiculous in the original trilogy.
It is much better than most films of the time.
The prequels are not bad movies. They are simply not STAR WARS as braindeads in the aforementioned groups understand it. Now Disney has catered to these, combined with the normie "fans" who don't know anything about Star Wars, and produced Avengers IV: Lightsabers, without an ounce of creativity.
This movie is truly bad. It is truly worse than any of the prequels. And it will truly ruin this franchise. Fuck whoever likes The Force Awakens.
Eventually you'll just stop caring man. It took like 6 or 7 years for me coming here but eventually opinions that would always make me mad and reply just stopped making me mad. It's strange. I've transcended "this board is fucking shit" and reach a level of apathetic browsing where nothing upsets me no matter how retarded it is.
>>323269640 To let the industry purge itself and everyone who is really compelled to it remains on it and the ones who only are in for, let's say money, and doesn't care about the state of the industry would go away.
A crash would make devs develop their shit, try new things and make profit like well, you know... the golden age.
The prequels were bad but at least they were trying to be something new and unique.
TFA is the movie equivalent of the Assassin Creed franchise. Copies the predecessors, soul-less corporate entity designed to be as safe as possible and to make the most sales selling merch as possible.
>>323269992 >>A crash would make devs develop their shit, try new things and make profit like well, you know... the golden age.
Just like it did during the NES days? Where people were churning out crappy licensed games again? Just so you know, its becoming obvious that you weren't around for the post-crash days because there was very little distinction between the two aside from more gimmicks being created post-crash
>>323270249 I don't want the industry to crash but Indie devs in general are not gaming's salvation by any means. I don't even have a lot of the usual misgivings /v/ posters have with them, but on a whole the indie boom has been more of a disappointment than a net gain.
People genuinely wanting a crash have no idea the after effects of a crash (or that a crash won't ever happen, especially with both AAA AND indie gaming being stronger than ever before, and still growing).
WE ARE IN THE GOLDEN AGE YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS, VIDEO GAME NEVER BEEN SO PROFITABLE OR EXPANDED SO FAST IN HISTORY OR HAD SO MANY AVAILABLE GAMES AND GENRES FOR ALL LIKINGS
SNES WASN'T THE GOLD AGES YOU CHUCKLEFUCKS, IT WAS PLAGUED WITH CRAPPY LICENSED CASH INS UNDERFUNDED GAMES AND SHOVELWARE.
YOU DISLIKING THE CURRENT INDUSTRY DON'T CHANGE THAT FACT
MARKET CRASH DOESN'T "PURGE" BAD GAMES, IT PURGES ALL GAMES. IT WOULD TAKE DECADES FOR INVESTORS TO REGAIN TRUST AND GAMES TO BEGIN TO GROW AGAIN. YOU ARE NOT GETTING A NEW CHRONO TRIGGER OR WHATEVER IF A CRASH HAPPEN.
AND EVEN THEN, A CRASH WON'T HAPPEN, YOU ARE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGEST ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY IN THE WORLD, IT'S LITERALLY TOO BIG TO FAIL
Wishing for a market crash shows how people have no idea what the video game crash effects really were, or their knowledge of how a the world works business and money wise
People genuinely thinking TFA is worse than the prequels. And I don't even particularly dislike the prequels. Fuck, look at any site that tracks reviewers or public opinion and the general consensus is that TFA is pretty much onpar with the original trilogy. All they do is shitpost about "waaah kylo ren looks like a bitch" "waaah mary sue defeats a weakly trained sith who got shot in the chest with a fucking laser cannon and is going through the biggest emotional moment of his life" "waah recycled ANH"
and this is just in this thread. shitposting never been so common in /v/, can't make a single video game thread with a bunch of retarded faggots jumping on it vomiting their unwanted opinions
Oh of course, but that's the case with anything really. If you want the real good stuff, you're going to have to look for it. I've seen a lot of indie games that are really good but fail to get any attention from not only the press but the peers as well for absolutely no reason.
>>323270860 >Fuck, look at any site that tracks reviewers or public opinion and the general consensus is that TFA is pretty much onpar with the original trilogy. >"I am incapable of forming my own opinion"
Sure, the consensus may not be right, but going against it doesn't make you right either. If you sincerely *think* the prequels are better than TFA, and you use any of the points I mocked in my previous post to support your opinion, you are just downright retarded
>>323271126 Because it'll get rid of all the big bad AAA devs like EA and Ubisoft and the only ones left will be based indie devs who can obviously do no wrong because they're all actually passionate about video games just like me.
Indie devs will be the first to go, cause if the market crash, those who are most dependant on sales (aka the indies) are the first one to go.
EA and ubisoft have billions in their pockets and they can bleed dry for years before bankrupting. Bob the indie dev who make games so he can put food on the table won't survive a market crash. he will just find a programming job somewhere
>>323270860 The prequels were much better written, they had actual characters and story, not a bunch of memes and one-liners that lack any emotion or coherence. Luke is a cliched everyboy "hero" that goes through an absurdly rapid transformation between the fifth and the sixth episodes. Anakin's emotional instability and his exposure as a psychopath are gripping; and his doomed relationship with Padme is touching. In the "original trilogy" Han, Leia, Darth Vader and Obi Wan are complete meme characters, nothing about them is remotely believable or human. And why doesn't anyone care about deaths in those movies? Leia's planet destruction, Luke's stepparents' death, all of the blown up rebels--the list could go on--all the deaths are forgotten moments later.
As for direction, the movies from the "original trilogy" were mostly incoherent, badly edited and full of logical problems. The prequel trilogy is a work of a "vulgar auteur".
I feel neutral about the series overall, and honestly don't care about trolling or contrarianism. Here are my sincere rankings:
1. "Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones" 2. "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" 3. "Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith" 4. "Star Wars" 5. "The Empire Strikes Back" 6. "Return of the Jedi" 7. 8. "The Force Awakens"
Episode 7 isn't even a Star Wars movies. It is a Marvel flick masquerading as one.
He can produce cheaper, but not more efficiently. Every game would either be low grade 3d or pixel based (which /v/ supposedly hates currently) because they wouldm't ever be able to do even fifth generation graphics.
They can make more compelling stories and gameplay thought, albeit much more rarely.
Indies would also have MUCH less exposure in a post crash market, since indies currently receive backnig from console companies, or heavily rely on patreon/steam grenelight to launch
Yakuza 5 Super Mario Maker Splatoon Rocket League Undertale Bloodborne Metal Gear Solid V Fallout 4 The Witcher 3 Hotline Miami 2 Transformers Devastation Life is Strange Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate Ori and the Blind Forest Huniepop Her Story Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess Fallout Shelter EDF 4.1
now go ahead and greentext two or three titles that triggered you so you can write off everything else (and other games that I'm probably forgetting right now) as shit.
>can't remember when games were good >thinks broken piles of shit with day one DLC for an extra $60 is acceptable >thinks releasing an unfinished game and patching it after you have everyone's money is acceptable >thinks the current standards aren't bottom of the barrel normie shit
>>323266245 Good games are being made regardless of business or political climate. Most of the games I've enjoyed are single-person games for niche audiences, quite probably by people who would be "autists" in /v/speak.
At absolute worst, if there's absolutely no game ever made ever, NEVER EVER etc.
No, games were literally better with more content despite the technological limitations of the time
Battlefront 2 had a couple dozen maps for $60, neo-Battlefront has a dozen for $120
>>323273009 >implying there's more than 1 good indie game for every 100 shit indie games
>>323273037 >RTS dead >WRPGs and MMOs replaced by MOBAs >legitimate game genres imitating MOBA business model (see SF5, Overwatch) >JRPGs completely stagnant, any actual changes they try to make are met by autistic whinging for them to make FF7 again >new Doom will be shit >new Deus Ex will be shit >literally hundreds of good devs absorbed or gutted by EA and Activision >no good Star Wars games ever again because EA >no good Blizzard games ever again because EA
>>323272495 2012. Level designer at best. Online shooter without voice comms or a good net code. Soccer is shit even with cars. Nice meme game. Worse than DaS2. Poor writing: the game. This game is mediocre at best. Even FO3 was better. Terrible gameplay and downgraded graphics. Acceptable. No. No. No. No. Terrible porn and terrible bejeweled = terrible game, homie. Not even a game. Terrible gameplay and the novelty of the traps weard thin after 15 minutes. Literally a dime a dozen mobile game. Probably one of the worst EDFs.
Does it really matter what ratio the good to bad games are if the good ones are still being made regardless? The more popular gaming gets, more and more shitty games will be getting made, but that's not fucking stopping good ones from being made. Stop fucking looking at what /v/ shows you and actually research good fucking games.
A crash would only cause more harm than good. This seems so obvious I don't even want to waste my time explaining why but tl;dr it'll drive creators away from the industry and you never know who can make an amazing game so keeping even one more person out is a bad thing.
Not that this matters. A crash will not happen. I don't think people get just how different the industry is now compared to 1983. You remember Asscreed Unity? Okay, take that game and mulitply its issues by ten. Now give those issues to literally every other game made and have them be unpatchable.
I fail to see how that matters. If the majority wants to eat shit, does that mean everything's gonna automatically change to shit? No, that's like saying there's not such thing as niche games because AAA are so common now.
I don't see why people care about whether or not OTHER people think the game is good, it's not like you gotta prove how "good" your taste is to the kids at school or anything. Just fucking like what you want to like, holy fuck.
>>323266318 I played a moba for 1100 hours I played TF2. I've played both Hearthstone and HotS. Spec Ops: The Line is a good game with good writing. Fallout post 2 is definitely good. MGS4 is the best MGS
>Opinion >Normie >Literally >Meme >Single word posts in caps referring to a meme >People who reply to replies with nothing but slabs of text >Any vocabulary/grammar that makes someone sounds like they "come" from other sites >People defending absolutely dogshit games that are recent releases
Usage of the above phrases or actions make me completely skip these posts. In fact I'm sure over 50% of 4chan is full of underage at this point.
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