>hurr modders will never ever get a job they're wasting their time
Good on them.
Where is Genesis 3 even located? I know it's in Commiefornia, but that's all.
>partnership with NoA announced
>twitter/reddit/vee comments are all snide and sarcastic with "oh boy splatoon ads!!!" and "2 dollar pot bonus hype!!"
how you know your brand is poisoned 101
even some of the biggest nintendrone hives have basically turned their back
No üroject M died because the ones working on it were full blown autist because it didnt even come to their mind that it might have legal consequences at some point until someone pointed it out to them.
It's basically legal extortion, Nintendo contributes absolutely nothing to any tournament they "partner" with and it forces the TOs to ban PM and 20XX, censor their commentators and shit up Top 8 with crappy ads no one wants to hear for the millionth time.
The fuck does that even mean? Will they provide pot bonuses? Setups? A/V equipment?
Because Nintendo's past history with supporting tournaments points to all of those answers being "No".
At the moment, this announcement could mean anything. Or it could just be that they will continue to do what they've been doing just with Nintendo overseeing it and raising awareness, so it could also mean nothing.
>post yfw we have to sit through another top 8 with d1 at the helm
I live near where that's being located. Someone told me there's also a fucking furry convention at around the same time frame in a separate part of the building. Might as well fucking nuke that building to get rid of all the degenerates at once. I can't even imagine how bad the smell would be with both Smash NEETs and furfags.
>Melee is an amazing game with flaws but the fundamental design choices still shit on most modern vidya.
>It created its own sub genre and has a huge competitive following.
> Nintendo does fuck all to help the community and refuses to expand on the potential games like Melee had.
Nintendo a shit.
I obviously meant without Nintendo intervening in the Smash community so that they could shill Smash 4 and uses popular commentators. Many of them had stopped talking about Project M entirely because they probably got gagged in a contract.
think it'll be there?
what blows is that the console port is (gonna be) Xbone exclusive, im guessing since the creator Fornace worked on MS' Killer Instinct before going independent
"Nah, fuck your money, Nintendo. Also fuck the ad revenue I'd get from my stream" said no TO ever
A better questions is why the fuck is Smash the only serious platform fighter out there?
There's Rivals of Furrys, and a few shitty steam indies, but I cannot believe that with melee and PMs widespread success, no one has bothered to make a game with unique IPs seriously geared towards the competitive community.
I'd do it if I could
Except PM has been assraped by Nintendo and Melee's metagame is gradually staling. At some point melee is going to devolve into an even smaller point of viable characters and playstyles and people will lose interest, like every fighting game.
Another game would also make Nintendo sweat, and maybe persuade them into Melee HD or a similar competitive title.
Plus there's no way smash nerds wouldn't buy a game with cute anime girls and melee esque-play.
People have tried and people have failed not because it didn't have the likes of Mario but because they were shitty games. Some Smash tourneys have been giving Aether a shot so that's a start I guess
>Melee's metagame is gradually staling
I remember some guy on /v/ telling me this in 2007. Funny how that turned out. Did you know Melee's top characters have only expanded in the last few years?
That wasn't anime.
And it was ugly as fuck and had a very poor gameplay demo and the kickstarter was $355k.
See for yourself.
>Did you know Melee's top characters have only expanded in the last few years?
Bullshit. The only character we've seen rise the tier list has been Yoshi, and he still sucks ass.
How? Nintendo at the very least provides setups and why would a TO turn that down to support a mod that isn't even supported by the official dev team anymore?
There's literally no evidence that they're providing money.
Knowing the shit they pulled at Evo 2013 and with PM it's far more likely they're just extorting the tournament in order to run ads.
PM dudes are having their own national tomorrow though.
>that feel when you have brawl fags on your normie book crying about it
>GIMR: Greedy jew who's stream sucks a major dick
>Showdown: alright but most of the shit they upload isn't worth watching
>Team Oxy: have to deal with crismon blur on commentary
>Clash: chibo is an annoying faggot and doesn't stream shit
Are there any good smash streamers. Showdown's stream is usually pretty great.
Liva cries for money on twitter despite not streaming shit and is threading to quit. He's a retard for not traveling and streaming Armada/Leffen locals twice a week.
He does have god tier production quality though.
I've never hated someone more. He sounds so fucking bored all the time.
At this point I'd take toph and Scar. They're at least excited to be there.
Is it true that prog is showing up? He could potentially save the tournament if that's the case.
>despite not streaming shit
Probably because it's more difficult to actually have regular streams in Europe since locals are far less frequent and events take place in different countries.
>for not traveling and streaming Armada/Leffen locals
Isn't he fucking German or something? Armada and Leffen are in Sweden
>50/50 frame traps, guess wrong or you're dead: the game
He streams a lot but none of the euros give a shit they just take him for granted also GimR wiggled his way into streaming EVERY SINGLE fucking major in 2015 besides Dreamhack which was Liva but it wasnt on his channel so it didnt help him at all
>melee's metagame is stagnating
I thought everything that could be done was already at Genesis 1. I'm pretty sure that's how most people felt. Hell if Armada never came to the states I'm sure that's what would have happened.
>Nintendo (NoA at least) is possibly ever-so-slightly moving forward with Smash as an "eSport"
>Sakurai actively tries to dissuade people from playing Smash that way for whatever reason
nintendo's a many headed hydra with different goals
Plup dropped Samus because he thinks she's sick and Hugs says he'll probably have to switch characters one he reaches top 10. The highest placing of a Samus ever was at Evo Worlds in 2007.
Ganon actually won a MLG back in the day, I don't see how he's risen at all. There are two Ganons on the top 100 this year.
I said gradually staling. We've obviously got a few more years of spacie optimization to go. Mark my words though, if Hax fixes his shit we'll see a new era of fox crap.
Tourney Locator is doing it's best for the community. They even try to support Brawl. They have good production values and host regional sized tournaments from time to time. Only bad thing is that some people don't like the commentators (jv and nebtune) but I think they're all right. Plus Wobbles gets on mic every once and a while.
I don't even care if he wins, his thought process of complete optimization is what matters.
Most top players don't actually care about pushing their character and just want to win using tried and true methods. Even Armada is lazy, his peach isn't nearly finished.
There's are a lot of minor things and discretion between how to optimally play peach, but if you compare him and MacD you'll see how differently they handle individual situations.
But, the one thing that constantly sticks out to me is how he's inconsistent as fuck at edge-guarding anything except spacies. He likes uses turnips when they're suboptimal to aerials. It looks cool, but really edgeguarding everyone except marth should be a boring M2K esque flowchart.
He also doesn't fucking chaingrab spacies at every opportunity which really pisses me off.
Well that's a shame. At least they've delivered something far better than Nintendo's latest attempts by far. I'll still continue playing it because it's fucking awesome.
Can't wharf the dorf. Ganon mah nigga
>Nintendo provides setups this is fact
Isn't that just Gaming Generations? I know Nintendo gave them Wii U setups for APEX2015 but we knew about the Nintendo sponsorship with APEX for a while I think.
G3NESIS is in a week and they only now announced some the sponsorship, so Nintendo probably isn't doing jack for the tournament
Main rumor is that Nintendo was gonna C&D them when they released the next patch (3.6.1) so they just decided stopping everything was better than dealing with legal shit
So what are they working on?
It was my impression that they were leaving to make a Smash clone, but that can't possibly be the case now.
Unless they're working on
Smash NXor something.
dude i'd be fucking stoked for a new Smash (NX) to hit shelves like 2017, a 3-years-later cycle like a lot of other major game series instead of one once every generation
melee came out 2.5 years after smash 64 so its not completely foreign for the franchise
Pic related. Thoughts?
>mango and armada because genesis is so important to both of them
>plup because he had such a great 2015, somewhat worried about inconsistency though
>ice because other than tipped off he's more consistent than the players around his level
>wobbles because he's a great deal, got second at evo, recently won forte, and beat m2k last year
>ken because he's cheap since socal hates him, same with santi
>dj nintendo because he gets surprisingly good results for his price tier
>laudandus because he's a little tryhard, kind of worried about him choking though
>squid because no one is consistent at his level and he goes bleep bloop
>lovage because what an amazing fucking price
>nmw because again i don't know at his level and he gets 33rd place consistently
i was thinking more along the lines of Retro when it comes to developing Smash, who i do think Nintendo could trust. theyve done a great job with their other titles, as have Next Level Games