So the NX will probably be unveiled behind closed doors tomorrow at CES.
Yes, this is a rumor, but if you factor that the Wii U was first shown to devs at CES 2012, it sounds reasonable to me.
So, the wait is almost over.
WHAT IS THE NX
WILL IT BE GOOD
WILL NINTENDO GO BACK TO GREATNESS
Shitposters are not welcome.
I was waiting for this thread.
>WHAT IS THE NX
Maybe a streaming device. Remember OnLive? It went broke, but with Nintendo software sales this shit might work out.
>WILL IT BE GOOD
Yes, in any case. If you're living in Japan.
>WILL NINTENDO GO BACK TO GREATNESS
I am curious
Hiroshima said that NX will be a new experience so it's likely gonna have a stupid gimmick.
Anyway, anyone who buys it at launch is a fucking idiot.
Probably going to be a handheld and a console in one.
Kind of like what people thought the Wii U was going to be, before Nintendo made it clear you can hardly leave the room with that gamepad and everyone was disappointed.
>Wii U was first shown to devs at CES 2012
It was publicly unveiled at E3 2011, wouldn't the devs have known about it before then? They had their whole "strategic partnership" with EA that summer. Also, NX dev kits already went out to developers back in October.
I hope we see it tomorrow though.
>mfw Wii U fags think the NX is coming 2017
>People implying Wii/DS was bad.
The gimmicks were the best fucking thing for videogames since the 80's. Stop being a brat with the "must be a traditional controller" guys. The worst it could happen is NX being the same as everyone, after gen 7 graphics are kind of a red flag to me.
The decisions made on the business side I agree. But fuck the third parties.
I have no hope for anything, being good or bad.
Scroll bumpers is the sort of innovation Nintendo should be aiming for.
Just this kind of genius subtle improvement that makes you slap your head thinking "Why didn't anyone think of this before?"
It died with Iwata.
I'm kind of glad he's not the one running Nintendo anymore (RIP though, he was a cool guy). Sure he made the company a lot of money, but none of his decisions benefited the players themselves.
At least have some kind of realistic goal.
NX will be the handheld/home console hybrid that will replace both the 3ds and wii U.
Lately Nintendo is making games that are just quick cash-ins, and are pretty bareboned. Ex. Amiibo festival, Mario tennis and Triforce heroes.
Nintendo cant support both platforms at once, so thats why they're going for a combination of the two.
In any case, Nintendo EAD will focus on one platform which will add quality to the games and make sure there are no droughts between releases.
Phone games wil be taken care of bij DeNa.
That is a nice thought, that the NX will be a positive thing, like a return to form for Nintendo.
I have only had negative thoughts about the NX because I feel like invested in WiiU only to be abandoned by Nintendo and coerced into buying more hardware.
Can't fight change, so I might as well try to take a positive angle.
>People wanting handheld/console hybrid.
>People wanting literally every game gimped by having to run on the handheld specs.
>People wanting literally every game's resources cut in half.
Nintendo has different design philosophies in regards to home console games and handheld games.
For handheld, there has to be a "save at any time" element, short linear level progression (perfect for short bursts), and basically a very segmented game where it's quick and easy to drop in and out with a big focus on solo play.
Their home console games tend to be grander, have fleshed out sections since you'll be playing it at longer sessions, and is designed with social factors/split-screen or what have you in mind.
I find it hard to believe the NX will be a handheld/home console hybrid mainly because Nintendo wouldn't know how to balance those two philosophies out well, and we'll either get bastardized console tier games or bloated handheld tier games.
If Nintendo built a handheld console hybrid do you think it would function?
Would it have some sort of architecture that allows it to scale up with more linked hardware? Would that make it potentially future proof?
Or would it be more of like graphics cards do with SLI? Or would it function more like a laptop with dual graphics cards? That switches from integrated to dedicated.
I can't even imagine what they could show that will suddenly give them relevance again. Not trying to shitpost, I hope they find a way to prove me wrong. But the company is inclined to continue a path that excludes them from 3rd party titles and they simply don't pump out enough titles themselves to justify another console.
Get a standard controller, support it heavily, drop the kid friendly only mentality, and woo the FUCK out of 3rd parties. All while offering a powerful yet affordable box and having fresh titles for launch. I can't see all that happening.
The domestic market for video games there is insane. Have you ever seen a waiting line for a new Pokemon game? Nintendo could survive well enough if NX only became a hit in Japan.
japan is literally the only country that has good enough internet to run a streaming device. but countries like america (not all states), canada, and parts of europe are fucked.
I think AT BEST the NX will support a gamepad and come equipped with much better hardware to increase its range of usability. Otherwise they're just going to go the PS4/Xbone route and make a middle-range PC with the same architecture as everyone else.
The hybrid bullshit is just silly from a game design/development standpoint as well as a feasible price-point target. The NX will be one console, and their next other system, be it handheld or home, will link up with it in ways that are about the same level as amiibo, i.e. far from mandatory.
Everyone is hating on the Wii U, but I love the little fucker. Just recently softmodded the vWii side of it, and am now able to play GameCube and Wii games (plus emulators) from a USB stick. Playing SoulCalibur II and Melee and all the other great GCN games... It's awesome. No emulators to worry about or weird control schemes. Not to mention progressive scan through HDMI. It's amazing.
>I find it hard to believe the NX will be a handheld/home console hybrid mainly because Nintendo wouldn't know how to balance those two philosophies out well
It's not hard, you just make the games the same way as you always have and then slap an indicator on it indicating whether it's handheld centric or console centric. The only thing different they would have to do is make sure console games either have a save & exit option or a quick save system so that people on transits can bail as needed.
Are you talking about the AAA leaker?
If it's true I wonder if he still answer questions despite what happened previously.
I think it will be like the Super GameBoy in a way. What I mean is, whatever handheld that comes out (let's call it the N) will work all by itself, but the home console (let's call it the N+) will be able to play all the N games and it's own console games too. Maybe the N will have a way to pare down the graphics to make the N+ games portable.
tl;dr: 2 consoles with some level of interchangeability
I'd prefer it if they merged, Brundlefly style.
I don't think it will be cartridges as we know it, so much as a new cartridge-type media.
It's a shame, but I don't think the NX will be successful. And I say that regardless of what the quality of its library ends up being.
The problem is we're only halfway through 8th gen and ninty is basically outright calling the Wii U a flop, trying to sweep it under the rug, and hoping everyone just forgets about it and jumps on the NX hype train.
But real life doesn't work like that. When you botch a console's chances of success and then kill it early, all you're doing is pissing off the loyal fans who actually bought the console, and it drastically reduces people's faith in the new console. Confidence goes way down. Why would I
Look at what sega was doing in the 90s. It's a more drastic analogy, but I'm just illustrating a point. They released the sega CD and that did decently and then they released the 32X and it was a horrible flop and then they released the saturn but people weren't willing to buy one because they just saw how sega killed off the past two console (add-ons) so quickly. And the dreamcast started out well, but it still didn't do well enough and people just didn't have confidence in the sega brand.
Nintendo is nowhere near fucking up as badly as sega did during the mid 90s, but the point remains. What nintendo SHOULD be doing is swallowing their pride, stop being so fucking stubborn, and really go all-out with the Wii U just to get them into people's homes and get people to like them, even if it means not turning a profit temporarily. Slash prices. Release players choice titles for dirt cheap like they did with gamecube. No more of this 300 dollar console and launch games still being 50 bucks bullshit. People aren't going for that.
But instead, they just threw the fans under the bus that actually bought a Wii U, and now they're expecting them to just go out and buy another console that, for all they know, will also do terribly? It's hard to get people to like you when you do this sort of stuff.
>And the dreamcast started out well
That nullifies all your point.
>it still didn't do well enough and people just didn't have confidence in the sega brand.
That's wrong you retard. Dreamcast's failure was due to a lot of different circumstances, mainly Sega going bankrupt and how easy it was to pirate it, but people loved it.
>launch games still being 50 bucks bullshit
literally applies to every single new release for all platforms (expect handhelds), dont hold your breath cause prices of games are only going to go up from now on
>Release players choice titles for dirt cheap like they did with gamecube
This is what I would need. It's the expensive games more than anything that put me off buying a Wii U. I'm a cheap fuck that only likes to buy games when they hit that magic $20 mark, and Nintendo games never seem to, so they can kiss my ass.
You know what I mean though. I think players wouldn't feel so betrayed if they at least just waited one last year and released in 2017. At least that would give the Wii U a traditional nintendo 5 year life span.
If Nintendo really wants to be competitive with the NX, it'll have to launch at that price and have a killer ass launch. BC would also be a real good get, but I personally don't see it happening.
It means Nintendo
is going third party and the new platform is actually being sold by Sony or Microsoft or Segawith Nintendo games on it
I can't even fathom what they could do to make nx worthwhile. besides more horsepower, which just sounds boring. those concept controllers looked terrible. honestly wish they'd just get someone who knew how to design hardware. nintendo has run out of gimmicks and doesn't know what else to do, since they're not king of the hill in the library category anymore, and haven't been for a long time. they've only ever thrived when they didn't have much competition. hell, even sega kicked their ass, and sega has always been terrible.
"but the others are doing it too" isn't really a valid point here. It doesn't matter if others do it. The point is nintendo should've pulled out all the stops in an attempt to get people to buy the console and restore faith in the brand.
The other consoles can get away with it because they're doing well right now. Look at the PS3. It was doing terribly during the first half of its lifespan. And what did they do? They slashed the price in half and had lots of greatest hits games out in an attempt to just get people to buy it. Sony knew it wouldn't make back their losses, but they were able to build faith in the brand, and now PS4 is doing well. Gamecube did similar things when it wasn't doing well too.
Its going to be the console / handheld hybrid like people are saying, but its also going to be two seperate systems built into one box.
Basically, a cartridge slot for the handheld side, with seperate system in the box to run that game. And a disc slot for the console game, with its own seperate system for console games as well. So neither system will interfere with the other one. Console games will look like console games, while handheld games will look like handheld games.
There will probably be two controllers.
One which is the ordinary controller, and another which will be the handheld.
And ordinary controller will be for the console games, and for the handheld games.
The handheld will have a slot to run the handheld game seperately inside it, or be able to let you broadcast the console game to the handheld so that it can act as a gamepad and let you play off screen. So it can also be backwards compatible with Wii U games.
So basically, it would end up being a Wii U, with better graphics, more games since it will be getting handheld and console games, third party games by getting handheld third party games as well, a NORMAL controller AND the gamepad like handheld controller, and a unified account system. All they would need then is to NOT give it a fucktarded name relating to the Wii.
Dude, a shitload of games have been available at low prices through constant sales that stores have been having literally all year. You could easily get any Wii U game for $30 if you bought Splatoon at Best Buy, for instance. If you weren't already going to buy Splatoon, you're a fag. That's one example out of a dozen. Plus Nintendo gave away a shitload of free games in 2015.
Gimmicks won't work this time. The success of the wii contrasting with the failure of the Wii U shows that they didn't make some groundbreaking new formula for success. With the Wii they released the right console at the right time. That time is over now, and lightning isn't striking the same place twice.
I don't think any gimmicks (at least that I can conceive) are going to cut it. The best thing I can think they can do is just make a really fucking powerful console. And not just up to par with PS4/Xbone. It has to be better. Otherwise there's no reason to swithc over
>. All the time. Show me a single Wii U launch game for less than $40.
The market decides what cost what and when it cost that.
Most Mario games aren't resold often so they are sold at a high price.
Do you think Nintendo was responsible for Pokemon Emerald being being like 40 dollars to this day?
Oh, I don't doubt you at all. Nintendo is nothing if not stubborn and slow to change. They take a VERY long time to learn from their mistakes.
I was just saying what they would probably need to do just to make a moderately successful console.
I can understand Metroid but Zelda? Really?
Also Zelda U is confirmed for Wii U only.
I hope Trump doesn't put a tax on video games from Japan.
The only way to get Wii U games (like I did) cheap is to go to Best Buy. You are correct in that, as you can get 20% off if you aren't a fag. I got Splatoon for $30 because they literally fucked up and can't into math. But that's not a regular occurrence. I can go to any (any) store with $60 and walk out with 2-4 PS4 games. This cannot be said for Wii U.
However, I will say, with the sales this year, I did buy quite a few Wii U games. Got NSMBU+L for $30 direct from Nintendo. Got Splatoon for $30 at launch from Best Buy. Got Kirby and Dong Freeze for $35 each at Target. Got Mario Maker for $48 at Best Buy (dat GCU). Got Yoshi for $35 from Best Buy (sale + GCU). Got NES Remix Pack for $25 from Best Buy. All this year. Also got Mario 3D World for like $40 maybe?
They're probably going to pull a Twilight Princess and co-release the new zelda on both platforms.
With TP that was actually a genius move on their part. It made me feel that I NEEDED to buy a wii for the true next-gen version of the game with those awesome new controls and such. It helped mask the fact that the wii's actual launch lineup was utter shit. And I ended up with the exact same game but with waggle. Should've just bought it on GC
Just don't fuck your shit up, Nintendo. Please.
At least not more than it is now.
If this thing flops and they start horribly bleeding money, and they choose to go the SEGA route and become both a developper and a publisher instead, then so be it. I'll be disappointed but at least they'll still be making games.
My first ever nintendo home console is my Wii U.
And I totally agree with everything.
So Im no fan boy, but I still want a console that isnt left for dead hafway through the generation.
The Wii U is already a great console, just polish the online play and release a few solid games for the next few years and it'll be one of their top consoles ever (games wise, maybe not sales wise).
Most of his first three years was basically just Yamauchi and Howard Lincoln pulling strings for him before retiring. He was a good CEO but he had a lot of background support that will never be credited. Howard Lincoln got that insane deal with EA for exclusive content over 10 years that was supposed to carry over to the "Unprecidented partnership". Then EA saw the final dev kit and freaked
Luckily they still have handhelds keeping them afloat. Things like the 3DS print money even when their home console does terribly.
But the question is, can they rely on handhelds forever? Sure, they've dominated the portable market since they first entered with the GB, but that's not to say this will always be a case. I was honestly surprised the 3DS did as well as it did, what with this being the smartphone era and everyone having easy access to casual "bite sized" games on their phones.
It sucks, but I think phones eclipsing portables for gaming is simply a matter of when. I hope it's not too soon though.
they'll be SSDs, iow yeah carts. it's part of the marketing guidance that they use metal cases and insert fully into the system base through a mechanical gate. think USA NES door and carrier.
The whole point of the NX is the whole console + handheld thing, which can be great since it focuses all their efforts into one system, and it reunites all their fanbase. I guess the game will work in a PC like basis, where you have the game running in low settings for portable mode and high settings for console mode.
Uses an extremely simple SNES-like control, but with analogs, keeping the price really low, like 10$ per controller. The games are released as cartridges to pander to the people remembering playing as young.
Is released alongside a new Metroid and Super Mario Galaxy game.
Since the games will only be DRM-free and physical, the hard drive won't have to be especially big, keeping the price down further. 100$ per console.
Shit all I could think of was racing games, this opened my eyes
The possibilities are endless
>"but the others are doing it too" isn't really a valid point
>but they should slash prices because the others did it before
I've attempted PSNow out of curiosity, and it works completely fine on my 50mb connection.
No noticeable latency, no lag. I was very impressed with the performance.
However, I really would not condone the pricing, but that's not really relevant to what we're talking about.
Anyway, streaming games works fine so long as you don't have the drizzling shits for a connection.
>I don't think it will be cartridges as we know it.
>Cartridges are like they were on the 90s.
You guys are missing the bigger picture here.
>Cartridge with new tech.
Closed doors tomorrow
Passing mention with more concrete details next month at investor meeting or whatever
More details at GDC
Full blow out at E3 with price and release date
There you go, 99% chance things will go like this
I actually believed pic related.
Shame on me.