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>there are people who paid 60 dollars for this
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And?
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>tfw i did because i was so hyped for it

pls kill me
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End my fucking life senpai. I was so young and dumb
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>>323205675
>Tfw gonna do it for DaS3
>mfw hoping that it's not DaS 2 2.0
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>>323205564
DaS2 is better than DaS in every single way.
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>there are people in this sub who still think that it's the worst game ever
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i did, and i liked it better than das1.
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>>323205957
Yet it still manages to be a worse game overall.
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>>323205957

Here's your (You).
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>>323205980
very SUBtle
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>>323205564
And it was worth it. Yeah, it's not as good as Dark Souls 1, but it's still a pretty good game.
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>I watched some autists video so now I HATE this game
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I haven't played DS3, but it's not DS1 therefore it's shite.
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I paid $70 for ps3 special edition
$45 for pc version
$25 for the season pass
$5 for the upgrade to Scholar of Sin
Ive paid roughly $145 dollars on one game
Ive spent more money on Dark Souls II then all the other games in the series combined.
Demon's Souls $60
Dark Souls $60
Dark Souls PC $10
Dark Souls Strategy Guide $10
I only spent more on the other games in the series if you include Bloodborne at another $60
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>>323205957
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>>323206298
I paid 20 dollars for Scholars.
I feel so bad for you.
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>>323205564
I paid $20 for the SOTFS PS4 and would gladly do so again. I absolutely love the game. Dark Souls 1 had enjoyable PVE but the backstab fishing pvp bullshit ruined that scene. Dark Souls 2 had much improved combat and damn near unlimited replay-ability. I've clocked hundreds of hours in this game and plan too play more.
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>>323205848
>>323206227
DaS3 will be nothing like DaS2. it will be DarkBorne 2 and everyone will love it because based Miyazaki.
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>>323205564
Multiplayer is considerably better than the first one. Singleplayer, while unpolished, is still nice and meaty and fun to play around with different builds/armors.

Both are gud. 1 is just sorta-kinda the best game ever made.
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>>323206457
Heres a classic line for you.
DaS 2 isn't a bad game. It's a bad souls game.
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>>323205564
>bought SOTFS ~6 months ago
>got a message from steam 2 days ago about how the product key was stolen and the game has been removed from my account

Fucking G2A. At least I had already put 100 hours into the game and beat it 3 times.
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>DaS2 is pretty good the whole way through with the DLC being some of the best souls content out there
>DaS is amazing the first half, utter shit in the second half and with pretty good DLC
>retards still act like DaS is this unfailable masterpiece while DaS2 is the worst blight on humanity

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that /v/ is full of morons by now but the stupidity on here is still just baffling at times
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>>323205564
I paid 20 for mine.
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>>323206818
Is DaS2 DLC really that good? I picked up SotFS for my Xbone after playing the fuck out of it on my 360 and haven't touched any DLC yet.
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>>323205564

Pre-ordered the CE actully.

Then bought SotFS when It came out. Fight me nerd
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>>323206732
yes yes ive heard it a million times and I vehemently disagree. Bloodborbe has the best PVE and DSII has the best PVP bar none. I love dark souls I but you'll never catch me playing it before any of the other souls games (except demons souls which is the worst one by far).
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>>323206818
OP here. I don't think DaS 1 is the unfailable masterpiece. That'd be pic related.

DeS > BB > DaS > DaS2

HD rerelease when????
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>>323207008
>DSII has the best PVP bar none
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>>323207016
You can not unironcically think demons was the best in the series? Are you joking? That game is broken. You're telling me you enjoy scraping spear/runninginferno/itemburden/worldtenedency bullshit? Take off your nostalgia goggles Tower of Latria does not make up for the rest of the horrible faults this game has.
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>>323206974
It really is GOAT tier in both level design and the 2/3 unique bosses in each. People call some of the areas bullshit like the run before the gank squad and smelter bluemon but people don't realize these areas were intended to be done in co-op.
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>Someone paid me 90 Steam bux for a virtual hat
>Got this game for free because of some autismo
TF2 players are weird.
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>>323205564
>buy game on release
>decide to make a Templar guy sort of like the class in DeS
>get to the miracles
>30 fucking lightning bolts
>plow through every boss
>find hexer guy
>30 fucking dark balls
>plow through every boss
>game ends with Priscilla reskin

Didn't even feel like a souls game. I fucking regret it. Also the Sunlight Covenant alter was in a fucking swamp for no reason.
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>>323207264
Best PVP of all the souls games I should say
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>>323207264
He's right, Souls PVP has always been terrible though.

>>323205564
It was a great game compared to other games that come out right now.
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>>323207310
>best aesthetics
>best atmosphere
>best bosses
>most fair of all the games yet still challenging
No it's the best.
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>>323205564
Yeah and I bought the season pass as well. Had a ton of fun.
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>>323205564
>bought one day edition for ps3 and strategy guide
>the game was shit
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>>323207008
>DaS2 PVP better than BB
O I am laffin
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>>323207461
>>323207489
>Soul memory
>Cracked red eye orb farming simulator
>best
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I bought it day one for ps3 and again on PC a month later.
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>>323207605

>who is old king doran
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>>323207605
>best aesthetics
Demon's souls make my eyes hurt, it's so fucking bloomy looking. The graphics are atrocious
>best atmosphere
Bloodborne is better
>best bosses
you have to be joking, it's bosses were all gimmicky garbage with terrible combat mechanics
>most fair
I'll give you that, souls games get cheaper by each iteration.
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>>323207605
>broken pvp
>worst weapon mechanics
>worst world design, even more disjointed than DS2
>item burden
>unlimited healing
>item dupe never fixed
>world tendency

You're completely delusional.
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>>323205564
Tell me, is it actually bad or just not as good as the first?

Because being better than the masterpiece that was DaS would be a tall order.
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>>323207951
See >>323206732
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>>323207951
It's just not as good
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>>323207951
It's not bad. it improved upon DS1 in a lot of ways and stepped back in a few others (world design most notably). Play the SOTFS version for the best experience. It's a great game.
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>>323207841
>soul memory
What was so wrong with it? I always found people to play with and havelmonsters were as popular as they were in DaS1. Tryhards didn't need soul memory.
>cracked red eye orb
A minor inconvenience
I always pvped in bell areas so it didn't really affect me
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>>323205848
The creator of the series actually has a hand in it this time, so worst case scenario it will still be better than 2
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>>323207946
>most disjointed
>not DaS 2
I think you're the delusional one. that shits a mess.
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>>323208131
>doesn't farm for item
>claims it is minor inconvenience

You're a fag, farming for that shit is stupid and there was no reason to make it that way
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>>323208131
>a minor inconvenience
You had to grind duel faggots in a PvP meta arena. They could have given us a regular orb and called it a day. JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS GAMES AND BLOODBORNE.
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>>323205957
It's better in everything other than the connected-ness of the world. Demon Souls had more of an excuse to have different world themes, but Dark Souls 2 felt like too many random ideas that made no sense being together got put together.

Other than that, the combat, items, and general way of advancing through the game is way better.
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>>323208131
>what was wrong with it
Simply put it was so shitty that the devs made a ring to counteract their own game mechanic
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>>323205564

I bought it on sale. It doesn't seem terrible, but I must admit it's definitely not worth 60 US dollars.
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I bought it on release and bought SotFS edition later

And I enjoyed both greatly, and am looking forward to 3
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>>323208181
>demons souls
>5 completely separate worlds that dont interact each other in any way whatsoever
>must warp to central hub zone to travel to any other world at all
>levels literally labeled as 1-2,5-1 etc due to their replicated design
>world design is more akin to super mario world than any other souls game

At least in Dark Souls 2 you could run, on fooot, from the very beginning till the very end with no need to warp anywhere. That's completely impossible in Demon's due due its in-congruent hub world design. Just stop anon you're embarrassing yourself.
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>>323208527
ADP is a terrible addition.
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>>323207951
it's better since it doesn't go to complete shit 2/3rds into the game.
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>>323208641
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I paid 20€ for it and it was TOTALLY worth it. Well, it was scholar of the first sin, but still. Almost 200 hours played and love it.
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>>323208752
How so?

Previously, your i-frames were determined by equip load (which was determined by your endurance)

The previous system gave too much power to endurance.
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>>323208748
>no need to warp anywhere
>warping available from the beginning because their level design is so shit that it requires warping in areas

On top of that, you have a level design that consists of.
>here's the mountain area, here's the poison area, here's a volcano on top of the poison areas windmill

Do I have to even mention Black Gulch and the Gutter (which is literally a bunch of shacks floating in an abyss)
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i am that guy, and i paid for the season pass too, then they release scholar of the first sin and expect me to pay 10€ for it.
i might be an idiot but im not that retarded.
this is why pirates exists
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>>323209183
Just a useless stat that shouldn't exist.
Well technically not useless, just something that shouldn't cost souls to determine. I thought the previous systems implemented I-frames just fine. It doesn't help that the hit boxes in DaS 2 are shit on top of the business with I-frames.
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>>323209183
look I love DSII but ADP is probably the worst part of the entire game. Have you tried even explaining ADP too someone who has no concept of what an iframe is? The fact that they tied the concept to it's own stat makes no fucking sense. It should be tied too endurance. That makes sense.
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>tfw I was one of those people who bought it at launch for $60

I actually found the PS4 version today for $15 at a local store so I bought it cause wynaut.

I gotta say. Did the game always looks this fucking lame or have I just been spoiled by Bloodborne? I've only killed Last Giant and Pursuer so far but both of them were much more underwhelmig than I remember.

Also I'd gladly trade 60 fps to get particle effects like Bloodborne has.

>Last Giant rips his arm off
>Starts smacking it on the ground trying to get me
>No dust or dirt particle effects or nothing

it feels like I'm just smacking action figures around.
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>>323210037
Aside from the FPS Bloodborne has 100x the visual impact DS II has. It's not really even a fair comparison since ds II is technically a last gen game. Bloodborne is visually stunning.
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>>323210037
Spoiled by Bloodborne. I look back at webMs and the game looks like complete shit. Even compared to Dark Souls it looks bad.
Bloodborne is a really significant upgrade.
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>>323205564

I paid 10 dollars for SotFS without realizing it was Direct X 11
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>>323205564
>buying games
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This is what DaS 2 does better than DaS
Infusions are better than the weapon paths in DaS.

Almost all the paths in DaS are shit or have a limited use. For example, the lighting path doesn't scale with faith and the divine path is incredibly weak even if you're a faith build.

Infusions actually allow you to easily convert a weapon into being useful if you are a magic user.

It actually makes duel wielding viable for a change.

It created a new magic class for quality magic builds

Other than that, it fucks up a lot of stuff that DaS did right, like Adding soul memory which ruins community meta, adding annoying grinding to invasion orbs, Too many similiar boss fights, unconnected world, fucked up heavy weapon animations
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>>323211831
Too many big enemies too. Also too many mobs. What the fuck were they thinking.
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>>323209520
No it should be tied to VIT.
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>>323212091
That is also acceptable. Just get rid of ADP for fucks sake.
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>>323212091
Lol no.
>implying there aren't enough people dumping into VIT as is
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I'll never, ever be quite so butthurt as when I played the game and saw just how fucking awful the graphics were.

I'm not a graphics whore, and I never will be, but there's no fucking excuse for how hideous this game is. The absolute worst of the worst for me would be the beginning of The Gutter with that giant pile of polygonal trash that's just a texture over some poorly mapped pillar. Lost Bastille was particularly bad too.
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>>323212091
Vitality shouldn't be a fucking stat either. Here's hoping Miyazaki replicates Endurance as the one true stat like in the previous games.
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>>323212303
I think things in the distance look fine in DaS 2 but when the areas that you reside in and trek through look like complete shit. Even DeS looks better
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>>323211936

Everyone says the problem was "too many knights". But that isn't the problem, the problem is it's too many knights with similar attack patterns.

I always felt the reason for the knight overflow in DaS 2 came from the fact that most humanoid duel fights in DaS are among the best. This is even true in bloodborne with Hunter Bosses. From has historically screwed the pootch with beast bosses, especially if they don't have a humanoid form.

So the idea was to make everything a knight in DaS II, but they fucked it up by making these knights all fight the same.

Even the pursuer, who can fucking fly around, has a move set that doesn't reflect that fact.
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So I've killed the Pursuer and The Flexile Sentry but I've hit a dead end in the lost Bastille. How do I get the statue out of my way?
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>>323205564
>$60
not on PC lel

preordered for $14, preloaded and ready to play immediately on launch date
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>>323212392
Yeah the old system had a nice simplicity too it. Melee had their END and then their damage stat. Mages had their attunement and then their damage stat. So then what should replace RES? Or shoudl they rework it somehow to make it less useless?
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>>323212924
Whatever the stat was in Demons Souls that increased your mana bar since mans is back in Dark Souls 3.
It could also increase res to arcane/faith.
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>>323205564
There are people who payed $460 for a game that is objectively worse (lower framerate means objectively inferior gameplay).
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>>323212716
You need a fragrant branch of yore. You can buy one from the old hag in the forest of giants or Majula if she has moved there.
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>>323213236
Thats true. Willpower. They'll probably do that.
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>>323212716
What statue are you talking about?
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>>323213574
It's blocking the way to the ruin sentinels. There's a few branches he can get. If he has none the easiest would probably be the one from the old hag.
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>>323212852
DELETE THIS!!!!!!!
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>Waited and waited and got Scholars for 20 bucks
Feels good man.
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>>323205564
I preordered the Collectors Edition on 360 with DLC and bought it again on PC and bought a year later SotfS.
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>>323205564
I paid more, I have it on ps3, PC, all dlc on both and sotfs.
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>>323213403
>2016
>being a PCuck
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>>323213403
Never ever lol
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>>323213403
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>bloodborne would need to be remastered for ps5 if we ever want to play it at 60 fps
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>>323208527
it's the perfect example of why idiots on /v/ who think gameplay is king are full of shit. Design matters much more. Also see, DMC4.
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>>323205564
>tfw paid 60 for ps3, 60 for pc, and 20 for sotfs
And to this day I think it is the most disappointing game ever.
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