New Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak trailer, for the five other

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>>323203076
why they call it homeworld its not even in space w/ 3d movement

this is just a gearbox cash grab fuck you randy (sales)pitchford

>>323204212

Gearbox had a deal to led the IP to Blackbird and they made their Ground Control inspired game a Homeworld prequel.

What is the problem? The original manual had so much backstory in it that it was a shame the we could never see many of the factions and events mentioned there.

>>323204440
problem is game sucks idiot

>>323205527

Cool let me play your beta anon.

>>323205778

New trailer is the same as the last one, doesn't look good tbqhwyl

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>>323203076
>deserts of Kharak
>Kharak
there's nothing left for us here.
let's go
;-;7

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>>323203076
bump for hype

>>323203076
looks like a bad idea to me, what set homeworld apart from the rts crowd was that it was in space with three dimensional gameplay. this just looks like a regular rts with a homeworld paintjob.

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>>323207473

I wish I had some remastered webums.

>>323203076
>that homeworld aesthetic
>god-tier soundtrack
>constant incoherent radio chatter

I am pleased by this. How the fuck did Homeworld get me hooked on radio chatter whitenoise?

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I'm really hyped about this ever since shipbreakers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgylViCFHAs

>>323205527
>Youtube trailer and some concept art
>game sucks

You massive, fucking, idiot.

Why the fuck are all the PC games releasing in the same fucking month? 6 months of fuck all and now in just January there are multiple high-profile releases.

This honestly seems like one gargantuan lore-rape and I think it would have been much better to just leave it as a separate story and settings, maybe somewhere within the Homeworld universe, but on Kharak.

I mean: I'm detecting some Homeworld 2 levels of bullshit here. I'll gladly be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my hopes up.

>>323209453
This, this seems like a far better cooler concept. Why did they not stick to this?

>>323210576
Branding probably.

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>>323210462

Well it seems like they are at least trying to not redo what HW2 was to HW1, I still blame Sierra/Relic for that fucking mess.

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>>323208123
Was Remastered any good?
I love Homeworld 2 but I have an install that I've kept for years that is modded out the ass and has loads of .ini tweaks to make it run just the way I like it.

>>323211096

HW1 has problems (formations and ballistics mainly) but for HW2 is a straight upgrade.

Your mods obviously won't work with it though, but some are in the process of being ported, like Complex. Most are waiting for a big patch which is supposedly coming out this month, which will change the entire movement code of the game and fix the aforementioned formation issues.

Why did RTS have to die, /v7?

>>323210907
I keep hearing this in every thread homeworld is mentioned but i never bothered to ask, so i am going to do it now, how exactly was Sierra fucking with Relic?

>>323209820
"You massive, fucking, idiot."
-guy excited for a gearbox game in 2015

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>>323211470
>tfw bought evert RTS in the past few years that was supposed to "save" the genre
>Ancient Space
>Grey Goo
>Planetary Annihilation

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>>323211678

Well the short story is that they had to rush the product and scrap many of their original ideas, some seen in this trailer which had huge monoliths and ships much larger than anything found in the final game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkJENS5KA30

And this is the original concept storyline which was completely scrapped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLnkOyQRuGQ

There is more to the story of what went behind it all though, and Relic isn't blameless, but basically the end product ended up retconning some stuff from the original game with the hyperspace core shit, massively changed the design of every ship, completely ignored many things established by HW1 like the Taidanii empire, the Galactic Council, Kushan clans and everything Cataclysm did.

So no wonder many fans like myself were pissed off. But it wasn't all that bad, and HW2 isn't some ungodly abomination like, say, C&C4 is to C&C in general.

>>323212076
What happened to Act of Aggression?

>>323210907
I still don't like it. A) they are humanizing Kharak inhabitants, which was never a good idea, B) they are addressing period which was most interesting PRECISELY because it opened so much space for imagination, C) they are actually removing any sense of mystery from the story, as everyone who played Homeworld knows exactly what this is about and D) this is going to be INEVITABLY a massive fucking retcon of the manual background story, which was still one of the best damn things about the whole game.

>>323211380
HW1 got butchered pretty bad in the remaster. It's not something that will bother anyone who had not yet played Homeworld, which is why I wholeheartedly recommend it to players new to Homeworld franchise, but a veteran player will find himself constantly annoyed by the changes.

>>323211986
It's not developed by Gearbox you drooling mongoloid. And this comes from someone who has MASSIVE misgivings about this thing: jumping into a thread to announce that "the game is shit" when all we have to have go on with is a few trailers and concept art, he is a massive fucking idiot, PERIOD.

There is a difference between being cautious and critical, and being a fucking retard passing judgements that you have absolutely no justification for.

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>>323211986

Even EA has made gems in the past like this one. As a fan am I supposed to ignore the game from one of my most beloved franchises which is also being developed by some of the original devs just because /v/ dislikes Gearbox?

I'm not a fan of them either but I'm at the very fucking least I'm playing the game and will judge it by myself instead of making assumptions like you are doing.

>>323212656

Homeworld races were humanized in HW2, I have already been over it so I'm not feeling it as much as you are.

More specifics retcons are only worth being discussed after the game comes out and we know exactly what they did, but I hold the belief that every story is worth being told if it is done well. Cataclysm got me hugely excited for Hiigarian Kiith factions and they fucking threw all of that away in HW2, so I welcome this prequel as it may be one of the few places we can actually experience their stories being told.

But don't get me wrong, I'll be the first to call out on BBI if they fuck this up like HW2 was.

>>323213504
They were humanized in HW1, i don't have the screenshot of it but there is one of Karen S'jet leaving the mothership where they look very humanoid.

>>323212467
Suffered from the same fate as Grey Goo in that it was a painfully average game.

>>323214103

Well, yeah, but there aren't any clear shots of faces, some characters wore full body suits (I know in Cata some did) and there was no clear connection.

What I mean to say is that they were humanoids, not human. Of course, it changed in HW2 though with a clear picture of Karen and some others faces.

>>323211380
>>323211096
Homeworld 2 had the voices redone which some people think have worse performances. I haven't played in awhile and I never really compared the 2 so I can't comment.

>>323213504
>Homeworld races were humanized in HW2
Yeah, and it was one of the many, MANY things gone wrong with the game.

>>323214103
There is a difference between showing ONE IMAGE of a human silhouette, and constantly showing them as human is something completely else. Deliberately obscuring the actual inhabitants were one of many things that made Homeworld great.

I want to preorder this but the price is more expensive then i thought. Even with discout. And I am only interested in singleplayer, and there is gonna be just 13 mission. So should i buy or wait for sale kater this year?

>>323214464

>Yeah, and it was one of the many, MANY things gone wrong with the game.

Agreed, but they can't ignore that canon now can they? HW2's community is actually kinda big because if there is one thing that they got right in that game it was the gameplay, so they can't just turn away all those people who played the game.

>>323211096
If you like HW2 more than 1, it's an improvement in literally every aspect.

If you love HW1 more, expect to hear much whining about muh formations and muh tactics.

The core of the problem is that Gearbox spun off the HW2 engine but actually remade HW1 inside the HW2 engine, so some things aren't going to behave the same.

Anyone tried Ashes of the Singularity? My comp is too potato to run it, but it looks like it could be cool.

I'll be pirating. I still feel like giant idiot for buying the remaster.

>>323214768
>Agreed, but they can't ignore that canon now can they?
Why not? HW2 community was kinda big because it had good modding and multiplayer scene. The gameplay, by the way was attrocious. HW2 gameplay was far, far worse in just about every respect than HW1's.

But that is besides the point. NOBODY gives a fucking HW2's story, and there is literally no reason to make artistical decision to steer the focus away from the human side of the inhabitants of the world for the sake of simply making it better.
The fact that they are not doing it to me tells me that they don't know what made Homeworld good in the first place. Just like with HW2 - it was not an accident, and it was not just an issue of those meddling publishers: I don't think the people really understood what made HW1 good in the first place.

Would it be wrong if I wanted infantry combat simply to see Kilith Soban in action?

I also fine with the humanization, but I'll admit I didn't play the original games when they came out. I also just really love sick looking guns and armour.

Ground control was awesome, and this is reminiscent of it can't wait.

>>323214128
At least we have Cossacks 3 to look forward to
R-Right?

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>>323215307

I don't think you speak for all fans anon, as much as I'd like to see a new storyline I don't think they could just erase everything HW2 did and hide it all under the carpet. When has a franchise ever done something like this?

I get your frustration but I'm still cautiously optimistic about this, maybe because HW2 didn't burn me as hard as it burned you, I had a fairly good time playing it online.

>>323215395

There will be no infantry in the game, devs said that the vehicles are so big that actual humans would look too small. They said there will be be units that will fill the infantry role however.

>>323215974
I know there won't be infantry, I just wish I could see some infantry combat and see what Kushan armour and guns would look like.

>>323215974
We are actually talking about art direction. HW2's story was a massive pile of ungodly shit and there is no fucking excuse in the world consider it relevant, especially to a PREQUEL, but really this has nothing to do with the story: it's art direction. It's about how much you actually feature the individual human or human-like characters and how much attention you draw to the parallel between them and real-life humans. It's art direction choice and art direction choice only.

>been waiting for this game for 15 years
>maximum fucking hype when it's announced
>learn the release date last week
>less than a month until my wait is over
>the next day
>THE NEXT FUCKING DAY
>PSU on my 7 year old rig dies
>it'll be February before I can build a new PC
>cynical anons will ruin this game for me before I can play it

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>323211380
>a big patch which is supposedly coming out this month, which will fix the aforementioned formation issues.
Source? I refunded the Remastered collection, but if they really do fix HW1, I'll rebuy it.

>>323212656
But you see sjet in cutscenes at literally the start of homeworld 1, shes always been shown to be human,.

>>323216426
gearbox forums

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/future-mp-beta-patches/137564/534

Those ground carriers look really cool.

>>323216558
I'm sorry, but can you not read? What part of "this is about art direction and how much emphasis on it you put" is so difficult to understand?

>>323204212
How does Homeworld have "3D movement"? You still play on a 2D plane on a map and click to move to target, it's not like you do crazy tacticool tricks coming from below or something

>>323216897
But you can do that.

>>323216897
You have never played the original homeworld, have you? Also, you don't understand what the concepts of 2D and 3D mean.

>>323216593
Oh, that's more promising than I expected. I'll keep an eye on that thread, thanks.

>>323217076
You CAN, it's just useless, it's still numbers determining if your units beat the enemy units

>>323217090
I have both the original and the remaster, also could you pinpoint the 3D related part of my post that does not make sense

I'm pretty hype. It's a little odd how everything broke down, but at least Gearbox is only publishing and the real deal is doing the developing.

And honestly at this point I'm really hungry for a solid RTS, so come on baby.

>>323217571

>it's just useless

Yeah, nah, no it's not. Just because you never found a use for it or never bothered doesn't make the ability to move in 3D useless.

>AI shoots probes out in straight lines
>fly the fuck underneath sensor range

so useless

>>323217914
>but at least Gearbox is only publishing
As much as i want to believe it's going to be good because they are just publishing it, there is this small feeling of dread in the back of my head that makes me not as hyped as i would be if it was someone other than Gearbox publishing it.

Still i am kinda hype.

>>323217571
>I have both the original and the remaster,
Then play them, it's kinda sad you own them but never bother to install.

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Gameplay and graphics look amazing, reminds me a lot of SupCom.

Storywise i stand in the opinion of how they fucked up to be about the Kushan people instead of the Vaygr
>Gaalsien with advance techngnology over the other Kiiths
>A fleet coming from hyperspace
I swear to God if suddenly they knew about the Taiidan first hard...

>>323203076
Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak, aka Homeworld: The prequel no one asked for

>>323218070

Not that anon, but if the game had something like different armors like inferior top armor or something people would actually do things like that.

It has uses but it's very underwhelming, especially since a lot of the maps don't have much Y features.

>>323220820
I'd imagine that the ships in space are probably some kind of recording of the exile fleet arriving.

>>323221110
The prequel nobody dreamed would happen, more like. I don't know about you but when I read the Homeworld manual as a kid I did want this game.

>>323221849
The manual gave enough insight, a prequel is redundant.

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>>323221849
He's a shitposter who posted the exact same post in the /m/ thread.

>>323222064
BBI was making a softreboot and got the rights the game was going to happen anyway. At least now it's not a shitty f2p game.

Has anyone here actually played Ground Control 1?

>>323222064
The manual gave a good background in which to set a potentially awesome game.

Insight is redundant. This is a game after all. I don't want to play it to be illuminated about the history of Karak, I want to play it because it is a really cool setting, with a really cool aesthetic, and the potential of really cool gameplay.

>>323222343
>>323222365
Hey remember the Star Wars prequels? Remember how they were all about an answering questions?
Somethings are better left to the imagination.

>>323222365
>The manual gave a good background in which to set a potentially awesome game.

A survival game maybe, since it explicit mentions how fucked up the desert was.
There was no mention of any war fought over the anomality

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>>323222764
Star Wars prequels sucked because no one could tell George Lucas no.

>>323222851
See
>>323210907

There's plenty of room to work with there.

>>323222764
These are videogames, not movies. I don't want to know that cool eras existed, I want to play them.

>>323223209
It was a bad idea to begin with

>>323222343
I didn't play much of GC1 because at the time i didn't have a pc good enough to actually play it, did have a friend with a PC good enough to play it.

Did play GC2, so if it's anything like that or WiC i'd be more than happy.

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>>323223423
If this does well we will get a Homeworld 3 maby even with space and ground combat. So even if you think this game is shit and don't want it at least hope it sells well.


>>323223504
GC2 was not very good compared to 1. WiC is a spiritual sequel to GC1.

>>323223273
>There's plenty of room to work with there.
>I don't want to know that cool eras existed, I want to play them.
You mean like the age of stryfe with all the wars?
Oh wait, they aren't doing that, they are shoehorning a new war where it doesn't belong
>B-but room in my asshole
You are telling me they had this massive war, over their survival as a race against the planet and crazy cultist, a very important part of their history...is no mentioned at all because?

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>>323222343
>Has anyone here actually played Ground Control 1?

Have been replaying it lately, my first time since I played it originally in like 15 years ago or something.

Game still has the superb writing I recall it had, but holy shit I don't remember the pathfinding being this fucking broken.

>>323224209

Not being mentioned in a manual means they can't create one? If this was an RPG and you got access to a database and it completely ignore a big event you'd have a point, but the source of your complaint is a game manual with general backstory information. I bet they intentionally left things vague so prequels like these could exist.

>>323224752
>I bet they intentionally left things vague so prequels like these could exist.

Hello George Lucas, how are you doing?

>>323225006

I didn't say that Homeworld was named Homeworld Episode 4 which obviously hint at prequels, but leaving things vague so you can expand them in a later date is writing 101.

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>>323225189
>I didn't say that Homeworld was named Homeworld Episode 4 which obviously hint at prequels

How old are you?

>>323225687

Obviously not elderly to have watched it in the movie theaters, but Empire was already named Episode V way back then.

>>323225815

Sounds good, didn't SupCom have a pretty good system for that too?

It still amazes me that people on /v/ have such a small capacity to reason or even look things up before bitching about something.

The game is on a planet because that is what it was before it was Homeworld and every thread about it was super hype. Then they got the Homeworld title back and people are bitching because it isn't in space? Were they just supposed to throw away all the work they had already done? Obviously if the game does well they'll be able to make a true Homeworld game set in space, but so few people seem to believe that.

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What hardware was going to be like.

>>323227767

Where are you getting these from?

>>323227894
Seconding this. I'd like to read the whole thing please anon

>>323224752
>I bet they intentionally left things vague
One could bet they intentionally didn't say things because nothing of note happen and he will hold as much proof as your claim.
>so prequels like these could exist.
They had a period of 300 years of war, why not use one of those instead of making up a new one?
Hell, why use the Kuushans in the first place?they have a whole galaxy and we know absolute nothing about anything not called Kuushan/Hiigaran, even the main rivals like the Taiidan or the Vaygrs are mostly enigmas.

>>323228094
Maybe they wanted the prequel to be set closer to the first game and about something that it more relatable to it instead of a war fought over an idea that was disproved before the game even started? Maybe they wanted it closer to the timeline of the first two games so as to not alienate new fans the game brings in when they make Homeworld 3 back in space?

>>323228069
>>323227894
https://discord.gg/0iObC1nAGCZTs77m

>>323228560
>over an idea that was disproved before the game even started?
Both Kiiths were right though.

>>323228560

Not to mention the fact that the discovery of the guidestone is the only event that happened on Kushan that was actually told in game.

You have to remember that even back then people rarely touched manuals or read shit.

>>323203076
>One army getting destroyed by an Ion Canon from orbit
Why did they need to buy those from the spacejews again?