Flowey made it to Screwattack's top 10 final bosses in video

it was a pretty cool gimmick

I have a pretty comfy chair so my butt is rather comfortable. thanks for the concern.

>>323197154
It was actually pretty cool. I like how it completely threw out everything in terms of logic and just went straight into bullet hell.

>>323197154
>screwattack

not in the slightest

now fuck off back to /vg/ or leddit or wherever you came from

I liked the boss fight.

And why exactly would I be angry about some sites opinion pieces? That's just pathetic.

I thought the game was supposed to be pixel art why is there an early 90s cut-and-paste jpg boss

Isn't flowey that goat kid that happens to be that last true boss that you can't even lose against?

>>323197154
He was the solo redeeming factor of undertale.

At least they didn't pick Asriel "YOU LITERALLY CANNOT FAIL THIS FIGHT" Dreemur.

>>323197154
Her name is Flowery.

>>323197154
I agree with it being in the top 10. If you were to include Flowey with Asriel then I'd put it at #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxC3ILPiz98

>yfw he laughs

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>top 10 in video game history
Wouldn't go that far but its definitely top 100 for me, top 10 of the year for sure.

>>323197289
>tfw flat piece of plastic for a seat
>back of chair has corners that dig into back
McDonalds is suffering

I'm glad videogames got killed by Undertale, because I never liked videogames in the first place.

>>323197505
you can't die at all from Flowey aswell as long as you survive for 40 seconds.

it's a nice boss fight, but it shouldn't count as a boss fight since you can't really lose. You take less damage the more hurt you are and you get plenty of heals and the game automatically reloads if you do fail.

>>323197505
Dying to Asriel sets you back about as much as dying to Flowey does.

>>323197430
Butthurt detected

>>323197621
This
Flowey is easy as shit, the lower your health the less damage you take
Sans would have been a better choice tbqh

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>Screwattack
Fuck off shill.

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>>323197575
thats some really good final boss ost actually.

>>323197643
one sets you back two turns
the other closes the game

>>323197154
Well it's true.

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>amongst the best bosses of history
>can't even lose

>>323197731
>>323197634
>>323197621
You're going to laugh at me but I actually died three times

>>323197154
I thought sans was a better boss

>>323197154
>not Sans
>not Asgore
what a bunch of gays

>>323197779
Wrong.

I lost 4 times to Flowey before I beat him because I suck at video games.

>>323197586
Look up estate sales and go find one with a comfy chair.

I got an Aeron for $150 today, as opposed to $450 or whatever they cost.

>>323197870
>>323197883
sans is too video gamey

>>323197868
what are you, a Lets Player? I didn't even know you could die at Flowey.

Not very. It was really fucking cool.

>>323197269
>>323197379
It was a bullethell minigame where you can't actually lose the boss fight.

How is that cool?

>>323197154
It was a great boss.

Really? Looks pretty edgy and gay like something from newgrounds.

>>323197943
but it's a video game you're playing

>>323197154

I don't even really know what I'm looking at here. It's just a clusterfuck.

>>323197923
Damn that's pretty sweet. Thanks for the spicy tip. I was talking about the chair I'm currently sitting in at McDonalds, tho.

>>323198173
you can absolutely lose

>>323197154

I am convinced that a lot of the younger people that worship this game don't even know EarthBound exists.

>>323198270
well, maybe you should stop living at mcDonalds then you fat fuck?

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>>323198240
It's ART.

>>323198323
Losing saves your progress though.

>flowey
>not Asriel for the theme of triumph
>not Sans for the emotional feeling and the actual fight itself

Hell, Flowey technically isn't even the final boss of the game, the final final boss is Asriel since both endings guide you back to that one.

>>323198479
only if you lose after getting past the only somewhat challenging part (before the first heal)

From the thumbnail I thought it was the last boss of Pico's School.

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>>323198323
You have to try pretty hard tho.
I lost a fuckton of life against flowey but never died, i actually tought it was a no death fight like Asriel

It would be cool if your progress resets when you die at Flowey/Asriel in hard mode.

>>323197154

>shit opinion of shit youtubers of a boss in a shit game

Wow I'm so upset.

>>323197154
>Flowey
>not Sans
What the fuck, man? Sans was the best boss.

>>323198648
You can't die at all in the soul segments, and you usually get thrown into one before Flowey can kill you.

>>323197154
Except he was one of the best fights in the game, despite being too easy.

People who praise the Asriel "fight" are the real retards, they are pretty much glamoring over a cutscene since you can't lose to him.

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>not Sans

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>>323198665
>having to actually dodge asriel's homing bullets

>>323199104
git
gud

>>323197154
What's Screwattack? Should I care?

>>323199254
it's when you point your sword to the sky and spin really really fast, then you jump at your enemy

>>323199254
>Should I care?
8-10 years ago, maybe. I don't know what that Pole's up to these days though.

>>323199392
Sounds retarded.

>>323198885
The Flowey fight is literally just a cutscene that's almost impossible to die during.

I'd say praising such an obviously "fake" segment is far more retarded. The second you take 2 hits, you realise that you're taking progressively less and less damage, to give the boss the impression of being a close fight for really dumb people.

It's probably the most insulting boss in video game history.

>>323198668
You mad bro?

>>323199431
yeah, damage output to mp consumption doesn't make it worth it.

looks cool tho

>>323199567
I died 4 times desu family

>This e-celeb said this game everyone likes is good!

Seriously
who the fuck
cares

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>>323197154
>reading "top ten" lists from some gaming website

I couldn't possibly be bothered to give a shit, op

>>323199703
>this much salt
Need some pepper too?

>>323199624
This is probably because you're a woman who moves into the friendliness pellets.

It's literally impossible to die if you have anything even approaching a reaction time. You have to be either a braindead vegetable or actively trying to die to lose.

>>323197154
You know it's shit when psycho mantis isn't up there

>>323197154

>implying I give a shit about screwattacks worthless opinion

Stay 12.

>>323199785
I mainly just flailed around because I had no idea what the fuck to do so lol

Still died 4 times tho

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>>323199760
Maybe you should form your own opinion of games instead of having some other autist decide it for you.

>>323197154
who cares

>>323199854
Psycho Mantis isn't a final boss, senpai.

>>323199854

Psycho Mantis is a shitty gimmick

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>>323197154
Meh.
Flowey was not that good, its was trying away to hard to be "the new Giygas"
Sans was a better choice

>>323199760

You're trying too hard ms leddit, nobody is going to buy into this so just give up.

It was a perfect example of what world ending boss fight should be. Everything you thought you knew about the game was out. Even if it was super dumb looking it was an incredibly strange experience and totally outside of anything you could expect.
Also a super good foil to the true play through where he becomes a perfect being. The flawed playtheough makes a flawed flowey

>>323199858
>Being this mad at a video
Kek

>>323199867
Again, it's not an issue if you aren't a braindead vegetable.

I've never fought an easier final boss, or one that was more insulting to my intelligence. It's about on par with "wait a minute, that card..."

Sans is not hard.

>>323199991

And Undertale is objectively a shitty game, what's your point?

>>323198215
No anon it's art now

>>323200019
You did.

>>323200129

Neither deserve to be up there

>>323200030
Except you can't lose and the fight becomes a chore when you realize that

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>>323200057

>implying I gave screwattack any views

Didn't even click the link, I honestly do not care about their worthless opinions. Sorry your SJW meme game isn't as great as you think it is.

>>323200129
Undertale isn't "objectively" anything you fucking dumbass. Some people like it, some people don't.

haha Screwattack is trying to stay relevant

>>323200129
>objectively
I don't think you know what that word means.

>>323200295
No one posted any links to the video.

>>323200295
if you can't criticize a game without the words "sjw" or "meme", that just goes to show how stupid you are

>>323197154
And Stairway to Heaven is always number 1 on those "Top X Rock Songs" Lists.

Does that suddenly make it true?

>>323200427
Yes.

>>323200295

What makes Undertale an "SJW meme game"?

>>323197154

Flowey's not even the final boss lmao

Well, Screwattack hasn't been relevant in years, so even as someone who likes Undertale, I couldn't give a shit if I wanted to.

>>323197154
Why would i be butthurt about someone being wrong?

>>323200324

"considering the facts rather than your personal feelings."

I do actually, are your emotions swelling little lady?

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>>323197154
>of video game history

Kek
He has the best design of the bosses in that game, I will give you that much.

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>>323200465
>not The Lemon Song

>>323197154
This makes me mad because Asgore and Sans are more incredible in every way.

Flowey is just "LOL STAY DETERMINED YOU CAN'T LOSE" easy mode bullshit.

>>323200602
you can't call a game good or bad based on "facts", that's bullshit and you know it. opinions exist, and yours is not automatically fact, just like anyone else's opinion

>>323200267
Why do you need to be able to lose to enjoy it?

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The bait has been set, and the tumblrfail kids are falling for every piece. I leave the rest to you /v/. Later faggots.

>caring about anything that fuccboi Stuttering Craig has to say

He may not be as bad as Greg Miller but that's not saying much

I liked undertale, but Flowey isn't a very great "boss" boss.
He's a fucking great finisher to neutral, and works in the story, but he's just too piss-easy to really be that great of a boss.

I like how Asgore seems to be more difficult the higher your LV is when you fight him in neutral, though. That's fairly interesting.

>>323200602
objectively:
the story is completely cohesive
the mechanics are solid and function exactly as intended in every situation
there are no gamebreaking bugs or glitches

subjectively:
>you may think the story is shit
>you may think the characters are boring and shit
>you may think the gameplay is piss-easy aside from notable exceptions
>you may find the morals retarded and ham-fisted
>you may think the music over-rated

objectively, the game is fine. any reasons for disliking the game are based on your opinions.

>>323197154
>Screwattack
Who? What?
Literally.

>>323200854
>there are no gamebreaking bugs or glitches
They're rare as fuck, but they exist.
Though honestly, this game is INCREDIBLY entertaining when it breaks. It fucks up even triggers and makes all sorts of crazy shit happen. Some guy had the "Think of it like a visit to the dentist" Asgore show up at the end of true pacifist.

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>OoT dickriding at number 1

And here I thought the list was salvageable up until that point.

>>323200854

Not him, but as a fan of Undertale I think there are some objective complaints you can file.

>the lack of a true hard mode means less replayability
>the game's proclaimed "hardest fights" require you grinding for hours on end
>according to Toby, genocide is supposed to not be fun, but people consider a challenge fun, so Undyne and Sans contradict the point entirely
>sprites are inconsistent and don't use the same tileset sometimes, which is disorienting

And so on.

>>323201106
Did they count Ganondorf as part of the final boss or did they actually put a boss with one attack on the number 1 spot.

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>tfw died to flowey thrice in a row before even getting past the first phase
>thought it was supposed to be an impossible boss as a punishment for not playing the game pacifist
>didn't play the game for a few days until I read in a thread that you could beat him

>>323200792

Does he get harder? I temporarily aborted a genocide run at Mettaton to see what would happen, and he didn't seem any more difficult. Maybe his damage scales with your HP or something, I dunno.

>>323197154
Why would a mod/janitor put a spoiler on this image?

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>>323201106
>Screwattack

Not at all?
Flowey was a cool boss His backstory was ass though

>>323201284
nigga go play literally any other shmup if you want a challenge

>>323197154
>screwattack
>credible
I wish 15 year old fuckers like you would stop spamming this bullshit.

>>323200889
>Being this underage
MODS!

>>323201387
Yeah, his damage does slightly more % of your HP the higher your LV is, you can't do the talking debuff if you've killed everything, and some of his attacks are slightly faster.

It's not much, but it's there.

>>323199254
A dumb video game website for underage dudebros.

>>323198035
I died to him once, before the souls let me do actions.

>Have Undertale Boss on list
>Not Sans or Asgore

>>323201541
You mad bro?

>>323201284
>the game's proclaimed "hardest fights" require you grinding for hours on end
literally the point of genocide. you're SUPPOSED to feel like it's grindey because that's exactly what it is.
>the lack of a true hard mode means less replayability
there's at least 2 full playthroughs available, more if you want to search out alternate endings and dialogue trees
>sprites are inconsistent and don't use the same tileset sometimes, which is disorienting
fair enough, not enough to call the game objectively bad though.
>according to Toby, genocide is supposed to not be fun, but people consider a challenge fun, so Undyne and Sans contradict the point entirely
this I feel is no-win, because either you steamroll through it with no challenge and criticize the genocide route for being a pointless grind or you're given crazy hard bosses that don't especially give you any payoff, with the rest being a pointless grind.

>>323197621
You can't die to Fume Knight as long as you don't get hit.

>>323201750
Epic :^)

>>323201802

If you want my thoughts on it, they should've made each boss FRUSTRATING on genocide. If it's not supposed to be fun, then make me hate fighting the bosses by making them obscenely difficult. Have Toriel be as hard as Sans, and have Sans be as hard as an endgame 2hu boss ramped up to a billion.

>>323202116
and that becomes a subjective opinion. objectively wrong, there's very, VERY little wrong with undertale, and any criticisms are entirely subjective. I personally love the game, but I understand how people wouldn't, and I hate the fandom.

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>he probably didn't make the list despite being this fight but better
Not necessarily a bad boss fight but giygas did the same thing and way better. My only complaint with giygas was I wished he was more difficult.

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I thought all three bosses were amazing.

Flowey ends an otherwise merry and mellow run with absolute nightmare. The entire game was very easy up until this part as well. Then you are thrown against a boss you struggle to even survive against. Of course, once the illusion of difficulty shatters (if it does), it loses some of the awe factor, but it remains cool.

Asriel pulls off the "With the power of friendship" cliche nicely, since the pacifist run is all about it. Rather than turning said power into a love beam that disintegrates the final boss, you merely fish out his soul and guilt trip him to death. The introduction to the battle is great, and the battle theme carries the menu and flowey's themes nicely. It's not very hard, but flashy the entire way through.

Sans wraps up the Undertale combat system into a package delivered to your anus. It goes above and beyond what you should expect from its battle system, and kicks your ass the whole way. It's great.

>mfw Asriel started moving around and the battle started

>>323202330
The only good part of the "fandom" is the abundance of song remixes, which are mostly kickass.

>>323201376
did you literally stay completely still? every one of his hits does less and less damage and if you're not functionally retarded you should be able to dodge a few at least

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>>323201357
Just plain old Ganon. Not even the best final boss in the franchise, let alone in video games. Terrible taste.

Well, he was a pretty good boss even if he was easy. The music, mechanics, and overall presentation was great. He was a better final boss than the final boss.

Top 10 of all time is a pretty big fucking claim though. Definitely top 100, maybe (and I mean MAYBE) top 50, but no way in hell top 10. He's a gimmick boss that doesn't rely on the actual games mechanics but only works because of how different he is to the rest of the game. He's not that enjoyable on a replay.

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>>323197154
>"Now, admittedly, Super Mario Kart isn't the best in the series, but it is the only one with 'Super' in the title. Therefore, it's on the list."

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>>323197154
>Flowey
>not sans
0/10

>>323197868
Don't worry,me too,if not more.

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>>323203845

Flowey takes the least effort to get to, so I'm not surprised that they picked him.

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>>323197154
>unloseable boss fight in top 10 boss fights
>not sans

>>323202374
>Giygas did the same thing but way better.
>Literally only had one attack.
>All you had to do was spam high-damage attacks in order to get 1000 health down and then proceed to pray 10 times and you win.
Sorry bub Giygas was an awful fucking fight, decent atmosphere but overall way easier and way less fun than flowey.

>>323205832
giygas had multiple attacks, you just couldn't tell what he was using

although they were all just basic PSI that could be blocked with pendants

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>>323197154
The way the fight is set up as well as the intense presentation is very nicely pulled off. But the Sans fight is way better.

>>323198173
Oh wow. Once I got to Flowey and all the fuckey shit started happening I assumed he was unbeatable and it was stupid message about the nature of violence or something. Guess I should actually finish then....

>>323197154

"How can we stay relevant?"

"I know let's add this hot meme game boss into the list for hits!"

>>323206873
the fuck is a meme game

>>323197154
who still cares about screwattack?

>>323197154
Why should I care?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gur7q_6RHhA&feature=youtu.be

>>323209560
did you literally just upload this

>>323209738 tryin 2 git biews men

>>323201284
>the lack of a true hard mode means less replayability
type frisk as your character name

>>323210179
>a true hard mode
>true
Pretty sure he means a hard mode that doesn't end at Toriel.

>>323209560
you are a horrible human being and i hate you

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>>323200854
>the mechanics are solid and function exactly as intended in every situation
Hit detection is garbage though. The player's little heart icon doesn't take damage on every pixel, I'm pretty sure the player's hurtbox is a smaller square of pixels within the red heart, and it's pretty noticeable. There were a few times where I should have gotten hit, but didnt.

I also don't see why moving faster in diagonal directions is "solid" or "intended" that shit threw me off hard. If you're making a schmup/bullethell, the player needs to move equally in every direction.

Overall the game is probably the easiest I've ever played. Another small gripe i I have is why are the Toriel and Papyrus boss fights so shitty compared to the rest of the game? Papyrus and Toriel don't even have moving battle sprites, they're way less polished than any other fights in the game for seemingly no reason.

>>323212750
>Papyrus and Toriel don't even have moving battle sprites, they're way less polished than any other fights in the game for seemingly no reason.

toby got better during the development but forgot to, or couldn't be assed to, improve the battle sprites of the first two bosses.
it's a reason but not a good one.

>>323197505
>>323197621

>This face when dying at both of these fights multiple times

Don't judge me, I never played a schmup.

Kinda trying to though.

>>323212750
>I'm pretty sure the player's hurtbox is a smaller square of pixels within the red heart
That's how most bullet hell games work, though.

>>323213070
Papyrus is also mostly static in his hangout/date scene too. Like why increase your own games' standards mid development and not even bother to improve shit you already made?

>>323213249
Might've been that he started eating into his kickstarter money and needed to actually get the game out to get money?

>>323213665
Maybe he'll fix it up a bit now that he's drowning in cash.

>>323214235
Nah, he's probably putting it towards one last patch and making the next game.

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>>323197154
>Flowey

Man, not even the best boss fight in the game. I like the Flowey fight as a general experience, but not as a boss fight. Definitely best boss fight in Undertale should go to Sans, Asgore, or Undyne the Undying.

But even still, there's got to be over a dozen other boss fights out there that are easily better than Undertale's, though I supose it is always easier to pick boss fights from games from recent memory or games that are "classics". But at the end of the day, all that really needs to be said is just:

>Screwattack

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Flowey was a pretty cool fight though, probably the coolest part of the game for me, this was mostly helped by the music.

>ScrewAttack still exists