Dark Souls III general. What are you expecting from the game

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i enjoyed the NT
greatsword best sword

>>323155040
>blue bar
They got mana back? We spices now?
How about viable archery?

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I am intentionally avoiding spoilers and purposely not watching gameplay or commentary.

I am also setting my hopes extremely low and automatically going to presume the game is shit. After das2 I am very cautious to get hyped. But if I set my expectations incredibly low, I should enjoy the game even if it's a little good.

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>>323155153
blue bar is for spells and weapons arts
miyazaki literally said archery will feel like you're legolas

>>323155153
yes mana is back
Didn't you watch any of the network test stuff on YT?

>>323155153
theres a sort of mana filler that works like the estus

>>323155349
Those attacks will never last past a few months of newfucks, as amazing as it looks.

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>>323155349

>miyazaki literally said archery will feel like you're legolas

Oh boy...

>>323155040
... and not a single hit was landed

Some things I want in a Souls game but have never gotten:

1. Reduced grinding and much less RNG for farming. It's never fun to have to spend who knows how long trying to get a 10% drop rate item that will help you upgrade your weapon. It takes your personal control away from your game and leaves it up to the whims of the RNG gods.

2. Visually-amazing spells. Just look at Dragon's Dogma and make the game's spells look like that. I'm sick of Generic Fire Ball Variant #150 and Pew Pew Soul Arrow Variant #409.

3. Bosses that don't have blatantly stupid and obvious blindspots. I should not be able to beat a boss by hugging its ass (like Asylum Demon), or sidestrafing it (like Pursuer) or counter-rolling it (like Maria).

4. Finally, please give us interesting weapon visual effects when we imbue them with elemental properties. For example, a Fire Longsword should constantly be on fire. Similarly, a Crystal Halberd SHOULD LOOK LIKE IT HAS A TON OF CRYSTALS COMING OUT OF IT instead of looking like a generic Halberd.

>>323155521
I honestly feel bad for Orlando Bloom whenever I see this,

He's fucking typecasted as fuck for forever.

As long has the game has some cool looking armour and I can wield a BIG FUCKING SWORD I will buy it.

>>323155521
for some reason this popped into my head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTa6Xbzfq1U

>>323155582
I'm hoping for galaxy particle effects like we had in Bloodborne

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Can't wait to see what bullshit they pull with whatever new katana there is

>Coldsteel Katana
>6 gorillion damage
>50 times longer than a Washing Pole
>666 backstab multiplier
>Phantom range out the ass

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Who here /preorder/?

Stuff I'm excited for
> Bosses with phases (like Bloodborne)
> Weapon Arts
> Mana bar
> Archery being viable to be more than a rarely used tool for cheesing.

Stuff I'm hoping for
> Good level design and world connectivity (with Myazaki directing I'm optimistic)
> hopefully less useless upgrade paths than DaS1
> Functional NetCode (I really dislike being backstabbed while I am standing behind my opponent....), this is unlikely.
> A finished, not rushed game.

>>323155740
Souls games always have absurd and large swords, although they mostly appear near the end, and the fashion looks to be really good this time around.
Also has the bonus of not even needing defense, as long as you're good you can just wear whatever looks good and say "Fuck stats"

>>323155980
>I really dislike being backstabbed while I am standing behind my opponent...

backstabs whiff in 90% of cases in das3 from my experience with the nt

>>323155985
>although they mostly appear near the end
You can get a great sword at the beginning of DS2.

>>323154857
What the fuck is that skull guy? I'm assuming an NPC?

>>323155980
>Bosses with phases (like Bloodborne)

Bosses have had phases since Dark Souls 1. Did you forget that Manus has certain spell attacks that he only uses once he's at half health.

Did you forget that later on in Dark Souls 2 Fume Knight goes in angry solo sword mode with unique moves once he's down 50 percent? Or similarly with Velstadt and The Last Giant?

>>323156134
Grampa Nito.

The network test was the most gun I had with souls multilayer in a while. It was an endless stream of invasions, 2 fucking invasions at the same times, constantly. It was amazing. Waving around with my torch has got to be the best addition to the game

I'm serious here

>>323156110
Or the Zweihander at the skelly graveyard in DaS1

What will you do to the potentially evil dude in a cell?

What will you do to the qt?

What will you do to Patches?

the leaked info said that some armor sets would be making a return

which sets does everyone want to make a comeback?

>>323156340

LE HAVELS XD

>>323155040
I love the look of these huge weapon arts, but I'm pretty sure they're going to be basically useless. All of them take more than a second of charging up, cost mana and stamina, and don't look like they do anything you actually need to do.
They're never going to hit anyone who's actually awake in pvp, and I don't see any reason to use them over normal attacks in pve. I'm afraid they're going to be slightly better black knight weapon R2s.

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>>323155153
>How about viable archery?
If Bloodborne's bow is any indication, DS3 archery is going to be crazy.

Network test was fun as fuck, can't wait for april.

>thinking about making a jp psn account just to play the game earlier

stop me, please.

>>323155040
>>323155349
God damn it I was gonna do a sorcery build but the greatsword looks fucking awesome. DOUSHIO

PC stress test when?

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>>323154857
>Dark Souls III Gameplay mechanics

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>>323155582
>Visually-amazing spells
Sadly we're most likely going back to "1001 type of soul arrows, now with soul darts".

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I wasn't wild about Dark Souls II
I really grew to love Bloodborne

Could go either way, the reasons why I didn't like DaS II that much were just artsy bullshit so gameplay wise I expect to like the third game as always.

>>323156459

They work like BB charged attacks where you can release any time during the charge attack. Couple this with the massive hyper armor you can probably catch people who try to dodge around you or continue holding the charge button and out trade them.

Obviously won't work against passive estoc turtle jap faggots but nothing works against that.

>>323154857
holy fuck that looks DANK

How can you all get hyped for yearly rehashes?

Serious question

>>323156692
this has been in developement since before bb iirc

>>323156692
Because DS1 was 2011, DS2 was 2014 and DS3 is 2016.

>>323155450
great swords have always been for mobs

leave the pvp weapons to the fags with the giant axes and the katanas etc.

I avoided spoilers.
What I want, but certainly not expect to happen, is that enemies have some counter to laming with ranged weapons or at least try to run to a safe spot instead of standing there and waiting to die to 50 shots.

Characters: Just give me Patches and similar characters as always, IDGAF.

>>323156692
>i really like hot dogs
>i get to eat the same kind of hotdog once every year
>somehow this should make the hot dog not taste good

im just glad backstabs are 100% fixed for pvp

>>323156692
So long as they're true sequels I don't mind.

>>323156564
Don't go sorcery. None of the games so far have been properly balanced for ranged gameplay.

>>323155582
>grinding in dark souls

>>323156787
>Bloodborne and Demon's Souls don't count as the same game

Then I guess calling COD Black Ops instead of Modern Warfare changes everything too

>>323156463
>muh dick

I hope there is a proper ranger build in DS3.

>>323156787
Are you really going to ignore prepare to die and scholar?

>>323156805
In the case of Dark Souls 2 it should be a fairly revolting hot dog

Who else here disappearing from 4chan when new gameplay starts to leak?

It's the last souls game for awhile and I want to make sure I play through it truly blind this time.

I spoiled the whole game of bloodborne for myself from watching wingman stream it and I wished I hadn't.

>>323156907
Black Ops is significantly different than the Modern Warfare franchise

>>323156340
Alva.

>>323156985
It was a nice hotdog but they forgot to put sauce on it.

>>323156907
Fuck off retard.

>>323156981
Are you really going to make out they aren't the same game?

>>323156134
No idea, no info on him besides the brief glimpse in the reveal trailer

>>323156985
when will the "dark souls 2 is bad" meme end? ive been playing sotfs again to coop with 3 friends and been foing fight clubs as well, game's great and the matchmaking is amazing unlike BB's broken excuse of a matchmaking

>>323156997
I don't care for story spoilers so i just need to avoid pictures and videos.

>>323156657
The weapon arts do? That's pretty good news, hopefully it means they've actually put the work in to make them usable.

You're sure you aren't just thinking of the charged R2s themselves though?

>>323156463
According to some interview or something, longbows are going to be strong but require you to be stationary to fire, and might have a charged shot thing. Shortbows are fast and can fire after rolling, but do less damage per hit.
I thought I had a webm of the bow clip from the trailer, but apparently not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HIxuGi_2TQ
~1:25 if someone wants to do it

>>323156692
>2009
DeS
>2011
DaS
>2014
DaS2
>2016
DaS3

>4 games in 7 years
>le rehash meme

>>323157085
>BB's broken excuse of a matchmaking
What the fuck are you even talking about, retard? BB has hands down best coop matchmaking in series that is possible across all soul levels without buttfucking you with soul memory and after pre-DLC patch invasion connectivity is top notch as well.

>>323157065
Great reply, continue eating shit

>>323157065
Prepare to die introduced dlc and scholar is almost a different game you giant faggot. Souls fags are the worst

>>323156997
I don't care, I stopped actually reading /v/ threads a long time ago. Nowadays I just browse through for funny images.

Reminder that japs get the game weeks before you do and you WILL be spoiled before you get to play it. They will also have created their own cancer meta before you have even started playing.

>>323156110
"mostly"
i fuken hated the greatsword in dark souls 2 though. It was so nice looking in 1 then in 2 they just stretched it out and make it look stupid as shit.
>>323156212
I don't really count that, that was reasonably sized. About as long as it is IRL.

>>323155950
Souls can be so funny sometimes.

Like, who would have EVER thought that binoculars (I repeat, BINOCULARS) could break the game the way they did early on in Dark Souls 2 before it was patched?

And who similarly would have thought that Bloodborne would suffer from a memory leak issue early on after release that caused all bosses to go down to zero in terms of difficulty?

You can't make this sort of shit up.

>>323156892
You can't tell me that you didn't grind for Blood Rocks in Bloodborne, or Pure Bladestones in Demon's Souls, or whatever slabs you grinded for in Dark Souls 1 or 2. You can't tell me that having to spend potentially hours to get weapons like Balder Side Sword in Dark Souls 1 is fun.

>>323157201
coop is ok but pvp matchmaking takes 5 minutes each invasion at best while das2's are instant

>>323157085
You can like something that other people don't

>>323154857
I hope it's just as shit as DaS2. I fucking hate video games.

>>323157267
>pvp matchmaking takes 5 minutes each invasion
Bullshit.
30 seconds to minute at worst unless you're BL387.

>>323157173
>>323156787
>le "Bloodborne (released in 2015) doesn't count as a Souls game in the annual Souls releases" meme

>>323156820
Not balanced as in too easy? I've done sorcery builds on both DaS 1 and 2 and have found it really easy, both in PvE and PvP (mainly because retards don't know how to avoid homing crystal soulmass). Plus the spells in DaS3 look fast and awesome.

>>323157085
Get the poo out of your mouth anon it's disgusting

>>323157354
why are you shitposting with memetext?

>>323157228
Prepare to die included dlc that was also sold separately and SOTFSs biggest change was enemy placement which is hardly a big change

>>323157248
Reminder I will buy the Japanese version since I don't give any fuck about the pretentious as hell stories in Soulsborne series.

>>323157354
>le Bloodborne is a souls game meme

>>323157396
nice counter argument, classic /v/ parrots

>>323156692
They're pretty good as far as rehashes go, and this next one is going to supposedly be the last one so you can rest easy mon frere

>>323157367
That is what I meant, yes. And I think it'll only get even easier in DaS3, archery included because they keep improving ranged attacks but the enemy AIs remain too stupid to deal with it in any way. I don't think they've fixed because they would've showed it off if they had.

>>323155040
Still no dedicated servers, I see. So PvP will still be shit.

>>323154857
Return of poise as it is in DkS1.
No level up waifus.
For the caestus do actually do decent damage, at least DkS2 did this right.

>>323157537
It's the last dark souls, not the last souls game.

>>323157537
Only the last Dark Souls game. The Souls franchise will definitely carry on.

>>323157438
how in the good god damn is it not a souls game

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>>323157561
>Return of poise as it is in DkS1.

>>323157173

2009:Demon's Souls

2011:Dark Souls

2012:Dark Souls DLC

2014:Dark Souls 2 + DLC

2015:Bloodborne + SOTFS

2016:Dark Souls 3 (and you can be 100 percent certain there will be DLC released in either late 2016 or early 2017)

>>323157420
I guess an additional boss, new soul weapons, balance changes and npc isn't much :^)

Eat shit. Enjoy your rehash

>>323157602
>>323157620
Really? I got the impression that From was moving onto other things

that's actually kind of worrying

I hope for being able to purchase every upgrade material or reusable upgrades similar to blood gems

>>323154857
10 minutes of Playstation exclusive gameplay

For the players

>>323157631
Because it has nothing to with the Souls games, it set in a different universe with a completely different story and setting.

>>323157463
>Game is objectively shit
>I like it

I can't really counter-argue. You just like eating shit, that's all there is to say.

>>323157671
What's wrong with it? If you're a pvp faggot you need not reply

>>323157671
>>323157561
i think poise could work again.

if they do something like you ALWAYS slow roll with ur heavy armor

and no godlike armor like havels

fuck that shit

normal armor please

>>323155040
>>323155349

>greatswords have Dark Souls 1 animations again and are FAST

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!

>>323157761
why is it shit?
try not to put too many memes in your reply or ill ignore it

>>323154857
A boss who is a giant wolf holding a sword

>>323157698
>DLC counts as a new game

>>323157740
I guess demon's souls, the game that started the series, isn't a souls game either.

You sound like an embicile

>>323157702
So you think sotfs is nearly a different game to ds2 but ds3 is a rehash? What?

>>323155349
before he swings the sword he pivots so that hes facing the enemy

took em 4 games

Should I get this on PS4 or PC?
Clearly, PC will be capped at 30fps again, so now it comes down to which game will have the most playerbase?
From one perspective - PC is a winner here, but many Soulsbros switched to PS4 because of Bloodborne and fucking cheaters on PC will ruin online.

>>323157787
>Not punishing Havels users with acid
Always funny watching their shit break and seeing them fatrolling around trying to unequip it.

>>323156110
Where?

>>323157704
It would give them liberty to try new things which could end up horribly, or really well like Bloodborne. I feel like Miyazaki is done with them though, and judging by DaS2 I think he's crucial to make them work.

>>323154857
Microtransactions

>>323157847
Bloodborne doesn't even have SOULS in it dude lol

its fukkin blood echoes

ye its designed like a souls game but theres no real armor, no sword n board

its not a souls game. demon SOULS dark SOULS dark SOULS 2 dark SOULS 3 bloodborne <---- something missing here?

>>323157814
Bad world design
Downgraded graphics
Terrible and recycled bosses
Awful combat mechanics which were so bad they're actually reverting them in Dark Souls 3

They shoved a ton of mediocre content together in a short space of time and made a royal mess of it. Just like the second half of Dark Souls its representative of a rush job but it shows throughout the majority of the game

>>323157912
The NPC that is sitting on the floor whit the massive blue greatsword. Kill him and squire the sword.

>>323157807
are you serious dude, they are slow as fuck. look at that wind up and how slow those special moves are

>>323156138
needs more kuh-rayzee though

>>323157704
>from moving onto other things

They make tons of sequels .

>armored core
>kings field
>souls games

>>323157896
fatrolling in havels?

i fought dudes cartwheeling in havels

thats all i fought that wore havels man

>elite knight armor
>black iron legs
>that reaper hood i forget what its called

best outfit in game

>>323155349
I hope archery becomes a viable main. Loving the attack speed on throwing knives too

>>323158004

You are fucking retarded, kill yourself.

I want to be Guts.

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>>323158004

>>323158004
You're the biggest retard in this thread. Congrats m8

>>323158032
>kings field

loooooool

classic

>>323157891
If there is an FPS cap it will be unlocked day 1 by some modder.

PS4 will probably have less cheaters though. If you have any friends getting it I would just try to get it on the same console as them.

If I've bought a PS4 by April then I could see myself buying it on PS4 first and then maybe the full edition with DLC included for PC whenever that comes out.

>>323158105
>>323158113
>>323158128
Here is your (you)

>>323158105
>>323158113
>>323158128
>no argument
''rehash'' memers everyone

>>323157891
>PC will be capped at 30fps again
Source?

>>323157891
I'm personally getting the PC version for three main reasons:

1. 60 fps. No brainer that this is a must in action games like Souls.
2. Graphics mods that will make the game as beautiful as it can be. Seriously, pic related DESERVES to be played on super high resolutions with graphics mods to perfect it.
3. You'll avoid wasting time grinding for low drop items. Just cheat engine it in. I once wasted 4 hours trying to get Pure Bladestone in Demon's Souls. Never again will I do shit like that.

The only reason why PC would be bad is that there will definitely be more cheaters. But I never worry about that shit because I always play solo and offline.

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>>323158181
>>323158215

>>323155582
>Visually-amazing spells
YES

or just not boring old classics like fireball and blue magic-thing bolt

I dunno, something like casting a swarm of flies, spraying poison or summoning bayonetta's gigantic foot stomp

>>323158013
most of those complains are PvE focused, and I dislike PvE in Das2 so i cant really deny any of those flaws
but at the same time i dont really care about any of these since PvP is the primary reason I play souls games, with DaS2 i simply give myself all the items for my build when i start a new one so i can PvP asap
this is why DaS2 is for me the best souls game sans DeS since that game had the most fun PVP, DaS2 has the most viable weapons and the largest amount of different builds

>>323158279
Do you know how to do anything other than post memes?

>>323157552
Yup.

>>323158113
im a completely different guy dude

i mean it FEELS like a souls game

but where is the souls

mechanics dont count.

>>323158004
Finally someone talking sense.

If you want to use the word souls to describe BB you can however call it a Soulslike. But it is not a souls game

>>323155582
>interesting elemental weapon visual effects
Would be great if flame swords lit up area's like a torch

>>323157784
>pvp faggot
lel

>>323158383
>mechanics dont count.
hahaha

>>323158105
stay buttflustered

>>323158357
probably not

opinions are just a myth here

bloodborne is not a fuckin souls game

>i dont even care but its not

>>323154857
Im expecting

An even worse community
A huge amount of shitposting on /v/ about DK3, and even more shitposting about that shitposting
Not that many new features to make it feel super fresh, but enough to take off the old smell
Still not good as level design as Dark Souls
The same utterly fucked up netcode and online that fucks up all the time
And a pretty fun and overall enjoyable game, that will be called shit by /v/ because it isnt perfect

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>>323158383
>i mean it FEELS like a souls game
>mechanics dont count.
wat

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>>323158167
I'm getting it on PS4 first, since it has no cheaters yet.

Fromdrones are getting utterly BTFO in this thread

>>323156692
Serious answer.

They change enough of the formula each times and they're good enough games that they don't feel like exhausted rehashes like the Assassin's Creed series.

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>PCucks still salty they will never ever play BB while being forever stuck with CE niggers

Interesting video on the lore

https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=0GeYeKqMXf8

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god damn just give me good combat, athmosphere and clever and logical level design.

That will be more than plenty

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>>323157740
The core design is identical to Souls, yes the story and world is standalone which is why it bears a different name but it's still very much a part of that style of game

-You have the same stats under different names, you gain a resource from enemies that can either be spent on levels or items
-You have the same combat mechanics but sped up with some new tricks
-You go through a level which ends in a boss that is behind a fog wall
-Instead of telling a direct story you piece it together from dialogue and descriptions
-The UI is identical to Souls

It's a Souls game with a different coat of paint

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>>323158323
>pvp is the primary reason I play souls games

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>>323155958
£21.84 good old cdkeys.com

£20.53 here if anyone has ever used this place? http://www.play4cheap.com/Dark-Souls-3-Steam-Cd-Key

Trustworthy?

>>323158776
I dont speak vodka

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>>323158315
You know what I want in Souls when it comes to magic?

NECROMANCY.

I'm getting a ps4 for bloodborne and some other games, is thereany reason as to why should I get DkS3 on the PS4 instead of PC? Will the community be more active there etc?

I bet people who think BB is a souls game think jak and daxter is a crash bandicoot game

>>323156340
Auros armor
For easy nude mods

>>323155582
>Finally, please give us interesting weapon visual effects when we imbue them with elemental properties. For example, a Fire Longsword should constantly be on fire. Similarly, a Crystal Halberd SHOULD LOOK LIKE IT HAS A TON OF CRYSTALS COMING OUT OF IT instead of looking like a generic Halberd.

Wasn't that already a thing?

>>323158790
Here is your (you)

It is not a souls game, it is a completely different game that uses the same mechanics and combat.

It is set in a different universe with a different setting. The lore, characters, world and story are its own and share nothing with the Souls games.

>>323156805
touche

>>323158950
No cheaters.

>>323158834
yeah, ive played them for thousands of hours and made hundreds of builds, invasions are the most fun i ever had with any video game
not talking about faggy duels, actual invasions that put me against 3 or 4 people while i use any means necessary to bring them down

This game needs the elite knight set or its blunder of eternity

>>323158950
PS4 won't have any cheaters.
Other than that it's hard to say what the pros and cons of each platform will be.

>>323154857
Really vague plot about how you're the chosen one who has to stop some ancient evil something or other.

I hope that magic/piromancy/miracles/etc are shit tier Tbh FaMs

>>323158881
Don't know about that other site but CDkeys is legit, I have bought many games from them over the years.

>>323158887
Shit wrong link, here is English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuIsd9mct0

>>323159040
Here's your (You).

According to you, Dark Souls isn't a soul game because it has ZERO relation to Demon's Souls, the first souls game

>>323158790
So Lords of the Fallen is a Souls game too?

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>>323156820
You wot m8?
Magic was Dark Souls: Easy mode

>>323159243

>>323158028

>special moves are slow

No shit, look at the normal attacks you retard.

>>323159259
Are you retarded

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Let me foresee what's gonna happen,

>Huge amounts of shitposting, people telling other people to get Dragon's Dogma instead and so on.

>People will never touch Dark Souls II again after playing Dark Souls III and won't be talked about, unless it's a bait thread and people will answer to it: >playing ds2

>Those who loved Dark Souls II will complain about how easy the game is now, looking back at Soul Memory and the limitations of coop and invasions

>It will be given the name of the worthy sequel of Dark Souls, as you can do anything you wish with your souls, with no worries over increasing your Soul Memory

>Since there will be bigger levels, people will complain about the quantity of diverse scenarios

>Wizards get cool looking spells and life is good again

>Most people on /v/ will hate on DSIII because of its popularity, despite being the last dark souls game as said before

>Bloodborne will still be alive, while PS4 owners will shitpost with their golden faces even though the majority of /v/ own a PS4.

Screenshot this because it will be true

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Game isn't out yet and people are already shitting it up with min max faggotry?

Truly 4chan is the worst fucking place to discuss this great series of games. Most of you niggers haven't even touched Demons's Souls and are PC only.

Disgusting.

>>323159259
Magic being easy mode was his point.

>>323157631
because muh exclusive is special

>>323159142
You've never played Dark Souls, have you?

>>323159243
>demon souls
>no relation to dark souls

We are done

>>323159316
Stay mad I used your own choice ofnlogic against you faggot

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>>323159040

I don't know what's worse, the fact that you think you're being funny pretending to be retarded or the possibility that you might actually believe your retarded shit.

>>323157265
binoculars? memory leak?

I don't remember either, can you clarify?

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>>323159378
>the majority of /v/ own a PS4

>>323159128
>>323159087
thanks

>>323159429
Lore wise, there is no relation idiot

>>323159552
You're a minority, Anon.

>>323157891
Get it on Xbox One
...just kidding

-PC because you'll get it half price or less
-biggest playerbase
-also mods

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>>323159520
I know you think you are being le epic troll making people mad on the internet but you look like a retard.

>>323159143
Fug u warrior, you're just jealous.

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Poll

http://strawpoll.me/6480111
Thanks

>>323158004
>blood echoes

ITS TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUYS!

buy a PS4 pleeeeeeease

>>323159638
stop

>>323156459
They were actually really good. Most of them have a couple different moves, so the opponent doesn't know which is coming, if any at all because you can also feint into just a regular attack. You also got hyper armor with the greatsword and mace. The longsword had a guelard break for one of its arts.

>>323159040
Thanks for the (you)

So you're just arguing semantics, that's fine. If a game has the exact same design as something else I'd consider them related but Bloodborne isn't called Blood Souls so I guess it isn't a Souls game, technically.

>>323159000
In Crash you're going through a straight level that has a linear path

In J&D you're exploring an open area and talking to characters, the focus is on exploration and doing different objectives within the level

they are so dissimilar in design I can't believe you chose them for your argument

>can't hollow
>Heir of Fire
>DaS2 PC manage to release himself form curse
>was able to pyromance and lift Bonfires
DaS3 character is somehow related to DaS2 character. Calling it.

>>323158383
>mechanics dont count.

so gullible

this is why you have a console

>>323157354
Most of the work was done by SCE Japan while miyazaki oversaw the project

>>323158748
If you say so anon. Gotta have something good to say about the PS4 I guess

>>323154857
I just hope it has good bosses, I can barely remember any boss in ds2 since they are all mediocre/awful

>>323159246
YES

>>323159391

No, this community in general is just shit now. It's an e-celeb dick sucking and acting like a hardcore gamer taking PVP overly seriously.

>>323159956
the boss in the nt was really good and had actual phases like in bb

>>323155040
too small desu
I wish greatsword was as big as in DaS2

>>323158881
I've bought about 75% of my games off Cdkeys or G2A

>>323159782
>If a game has the exact same design as something else
It doesn't. But if you think it does then answer this >>323159246

>>323157891
Ps4 all the way. Souls on pc are a cheaters haven. Everyone uses CE to get whatever the fuck they want while with Ps4 there really isn't much choice but to get the work done like everyone else. Pvp makes this a lot more fair as well. Also, souls games sell better on console so you'll have a bigger playerbase

>>323158790
Well said

>>323158004
Miyazaki himself said it's a Souls game

>>323159956
This. I remember more bloodborne bosses and I didnt even play it. But I'm hopeful. The one we saw in the network test was pretty good, soundtrack included

>>323160205
>Miyazaki himself said it's a Souls game
Why would you tell a lie like that?

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>>323157807
>>323158028
>what is a charged r2?

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>>323158939
>NECROMANCY.

Summoning your own dead buddies out of dead PVE mobs to help you when you get invaded

Shit yes.

>>323158528
The netcode was great during the network test. And that was with 6 people on it all the fucking time. Continously had double invasions with zero lag

>>323159040

holy fuck this delusion is insane

>>323160337
Why is your life so pathetic that you try this hard to shitpost?

>>323159552
do they fuck

thought we were all adults here

>>323160159
>Also, souls games sell better on console so you'll have a bigger playerbase
This actually isn't true.

>>323160205
Miyazaki himself said it wasn't a Souls game and that he missed being able to have character builds and other such traditional RPG features while making Bloodborne.

>>323155521
>I can run up these falling bricks because I'm weightless, yay!
>Now I'll use my weightlessness to send this orc scum to his death :^)

>>323160503
I assure you it is true

>>323160430
Not him but you seen pretty fucking delusional like he suggests

>>323160305
I like how the DaS3 half pauses on the backswing while DaS1 keeps going instead of stopping at the same place

>>323160593
So pathetic that you are now samefagging

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>Bloodbourne isn't a Souls game with a different name

Come one now, I love Bloodborne, but you'd have to be retarded to think it isn't basically a Souls game at it's core.

>>323154857
>What are you expecting from the game
Return of a good quality waifu like MiB or Fair Lady

>219 Replies
>72 Posters
Never change /v/

>>323159378
>Most people on /v/ will hate on DSIII because of its popularity

Probably. After all, that's what happened with DaS2.

any good webms of dual wielding gameplay?

saw a clip a while ago of swinging 2 swords and it looked fast as fuck

>>323158790

This.

I fucking hate Fromdrones so much.

>>323160695
The doll was a high tier waifu imo

>>323160523
Miyazaki actually said that Bloodborne was this thing called a "meme game". He also designed it while high on meth and PCP. It's on Google. Go look it up.

>>323160503
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72895/dark-souls-ii/
Over 1.2m, and you know they don't count digital (as far as I know)
http://steamspy.com/app/236430
1m

I'm not including other consoles.

However, with sotfs that's not the case

http://steamspy.com/app/335300 over 500k copies
vs
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/85345/dark-souls-ii/ 380k

If we included digital sales, they'd about the same.

Honestly, I'd get it on PC first if it wasn't because they like to cheat.

>>323160668
>He can't check for samefag in 2016

>>323160049

god this is so fucking true

>>323157787
>armor must always be shit.

ok there Katanafag.

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>>323160698
I feel like people are actually interested in what I say.
Is this what having friends feels like ?

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OH WHAT A DAY!
WHAT A LOVELY DAY!

>come in to discuss Dark Souls 3
>it's just shitposting
What a surprise.

>>323161114

What's there to discuss about this rehash?

>>323161114
>come in to discuss Dark Souls 3 on /v/

First mistake of many

>>323160940
I haven't played it yet, so I can't really say.
she's ute though. I've found interesting the iron mask girl also, but I can't really express a judgement

>>323160698
That's a pretty typical ratio

>>323157552
dedicated servers are impossible in Souls games

>>323158480
>>323158480
uhh...


alright so say someone makes a sonic adventure game right? already shit right yeah but thats not the point

say they put in dark souls / blood borne mechanics

would you call Sonic Adventure X a fucking souls game?

>mechanics DONT count.

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>>323161269
Not the doll, but the exact same model

>>323161318
Not going to pretend I know how this shit works but even if it's P2P it must need a matchmaking server or something, so you could theoretically have a custom one of those.

>>323160698
>i'm so much of an autist I don't know how conversation works

A thread should always have around a 2:1 ratio.
One person make a post one person post replying back to him and then he replies back.

That is how conversation work retard.

>>323159696
lol

im a pc dude but okey okey

>>323160940
You like your waifus filled to brim with everyone's semen at all times?

>>323160205
(citation needed)

Its not a souls game.

Its made by the dudes that made Souls. so it feels like a souls game.

its just the way they made it.

bloodborne has nothing to do with souls at all besides having the same mechanics

>>323161480
Pretty kawaii

>>323158682
>>323160860

Please. Soulsfags aren't Fromdrones.

90 percent of Soulsfags will not play a From game aside from Souls or Souls spin-offs like Bloodborne.

They won't play Armored Core. Or Metal Wolf Chaos. Or King's Field. Or Echo Night. Or Steel Batallion. Or Otogi. Or anything else.

Just SoulsBorne. That's why they aren't Fromdrones. Fromdrones are cool. Soulsdrones are shit.

>>323161496
theres mm server since DaS2

>>323160978
I wouldn't trust vgchartz at all considering that would contradict From's own numbers from last July saying they sold 2.3m copies of vanilla DaS2.

>>323161609
Not really but I like my waifus to be kind, gentle, devoted, well-dressed, delicate and doll-like.

>>323160153
I haven't played Lords of the Fallen so I can't speak for myself but if you look up the game anywhere the word Souls will pop up 99% of the time. The game apparently uses a lot of the mechanics from the Souls series, such as experience that drops when you die, you have bonfires that replenish your healing items, the combat revolves around stamina management and blocking/dodging, that at least warrants a sticker that says 'souls-like'

can't really say more since I haven't actually played it

>>323158248
>only 4 hours
You were one of the lucky ones, son. That's nothing.
>>323158434
Oh god I seriously fucking hope "soulslike" is not going to become a genre itself in the future, the way roguelike did.
>2020
>million+1 indie shit on steam with the tag "Soulslike".
>souls games have been wrung dry and are an undead husk of its former self.
What a cruel fate. I almost wish people(including myself) didn't even buy demons souls when it first came out, so From would never have made dark souls, so it wouldn't have become such a fuckin meme game.

Hope the OST is as good as Demons Souls and the first one

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>>323161609
She's actually filled with whipped cream, that's why she's so sweet.

Speaking of waifus, who was your favorite?

>>323161480
Wrong, doll is taller and has more slender eyes.

>>323162085
Gavlan.

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>>323162085
D O L L

Is there even another possible answer?

>>323162085
Rhea of Thorulund, must protect

>>323161947
And that voice. I want the doll to whisper into my ear while I fall alseep

>>323161840
Nobody played those games because they were oxbox exclusives, which doesn't have emulation, and some of which weren't even released outside of japan

MWC was sick but don't be a hipster cunt about it

>>323162253
I don't really like her English dub she sounds kinda jaded.

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>>323160738
I still dont understand why DaSII was suddenly hated 6 months later. I remmeber the initial hype and the few threads complaining about the lighting but I still enjoyed it a lot, sunk about 180 hours into it and only 20 or so were dedicated to PVP. I never bothered with the generals so maybe thats why i missed out on the sudden shift.

I liked it more than Bloodborne though, that game had no replayability until the DLC and the chalice dungeons were total ass

>>323162085
Quelana.
naked feet in the swamp

>>323156692
this
>>323158721

Also this
>Coming from Dark Souls II producer Takeshi Miyazoe, when asked about a potential Wii U version...

>“No. (followed by laughter) Wii U never came up, and we never doubted that (decision) either. It was more of a company decision, so I wasn’t the one that decided this, but I think the audience for the Wii U is a lot different from the audience for Dark Souls.”

NEVER.EVER

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>>323162085
The Fair Lady
I've got a thing for pale, sickly girls too weak to stop me forcing myself on them

>>323162001
>You were one of the lucky ones, son. That's nothing.

See, that's exactly my point. I was lucky. You, unfortunately, weren't. The RNG gods were being kind to me that one particular time. For some people, they can get a rare drop in 10 seconds from the first enemy you kill that has that specific drop. Some people might take 10 minutes. Some might take 10 hours. Some might take 10 days.

That is the problem with RNG-based item drops. Your ability to get them has nothing to do with your skill. It is completely dependant on the whims of the RNG gods and whether or not they're feeling nice today. It's luck-based. It takes control away from you and gives it to a dice throw.

I really don't understand how ANYONE can enjoy this or defend this.

>>323159541
I would give you a youtube link with glitch as I had to look it up myself but if you are too stupid to google it yourself then you aren't the type of person I would want to encourage to stay on the internet.

>>323162545
Then you picked the wrong waifu cause she's a giant spider.

>>323162331
>I still dont understand why DaSII was suddenly hated 6 months later
Some e-celeb made a video criticizing it, and suddenly everyone agreed. Granted, DaS II is the weakest in the series but still, e-celeb fanboys are the worst

>>323162271
That's no excuse. Armored Core games are multiplatform. Barely any Soulsdrones play them.

So even if all those other games were released multiplatform and/or in the US, Soulsdrones won't play them because they're all faggots.

>>323162545
Gotta max the shit out of that pickaxe if you want to hit her putrid pus-dripping spider epygine bruv cuz you gotta dig her dead butt out of its burial recess in that wall of fossilized demon shit

>>323162506
>(followed by laughter)

Holy shit, Nintendo utterly BTFO by their own kind

>>323155635
>He's fucking typecasted as fuck
>What is Pirates of the Caribbean
>and Elizabethtown and The Three Musketeers
>fucking etc.

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>>323161947

>>323162968
>Elizabethtown and The Three Musketeers
weren't they from Ottawa? one of them had french name

>>323163103
MINE
I
N
E

I'm in love with this woman since when I was 12

>>323162709
>Armored Core games are multiplatform. Barely any Soulsdrones play them.
Probably because there hasn't been a good one in over a decade.

>>323163221
I can't say as much, but would you be able to satisfy her piss fetish and change her diapers on a daily basis? Cause I know I would.

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>>323163221
Jennifer Connelly was one of the most beautiful women in the world in the late 1990s and early 2000s. She had some of the best natural beauty and curves I've seen in a woman.

Now she looks like this.

>>323162579
Yea, it's a pretty good point, rng is fuckin shit. It's just unfortunate that there's not many ways to implement any other method of getting these rare items.
Other than maybe having to kill a specific enemy a specific way to get the drop. But even then, word would get out of how to do it and it wouldn't be rare at all anymore.

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>>323163253

>>323157698
3 years
2 years
2 years

bloodborne isn't a souls game

different mechanics looks different, feels different, different story might and only retains some of the basics

might as well call final fantasy 7 - 10 rehashes while you're at it
protip: they're not

a re-release isn't a new fucking game you dumbfucks
it's called releasing the same game again and that coincidentally made it better

>>323163136
lol that's not one movie title

>>323163392
Eh, she's still pretty

>>323162709
I've only played For Answer and found it really underwhelming.

>>323161840

same shit

the only other noteworthy series they have is AC and it's taken the back seat to Souls

>>323163392
I prefer her to wither like that without giving a fuck than destroying her face with surgery.
it kinda give her past beauty an added value
also she's not really that bad, just age gonna age
>>323163317
ah right, this was a /tv/ meme
I fapped to much worst stuff, that won't be a big deal though.

>>323163404

You can remove the RNG factor completely and still make them hard to obtain. So, for example, let's say you want a super rare item. Like a rare sword. Instead of killing a monster until the RNG gods grant you the rare sword, how about you cut off their tail or horn or break their shells or whatever? At the same time, make it so that doing so is hard.

Like cutting off Kalameet's tail to get the Obsidian Greatsword. Or Seath's tail for the Moonlight Greatsword. It's hard to do, but it has zero RNG involved.

You can do the same for things like Titanite Slabs. Have specific monsters made completely out of Titanite (like the Titanite Demon in Dark Souls 1) and make it so that you have to break certain parts of their body to get the slab.

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>>323161840
>Fromdrones are cool. Soulsdrones are shit.

Both faggots.

Being a drone is not a good thing you flaming faggot.

>>323163501
>bloodborne isnt a souls game

it fucking is though, the modifications to combat are ever so slight that it doesnt matter.

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>tfw i love cloth physics
>bb has all those trench coats and robes
>almost bought a fucking ps4 for it

will ds3 have that too? all the outfits i have seen are either small capes or scarfs

>>323161840
They wotn play them because most are hot garbage. AC and MWC aside, nobody should be forced to play those shit games. From got lucky with Demon Souls so they've been rolling with it after AC started getting less and less appealing.

>>323163772
The purpose isn't to create a barrier, it's to create unique runs. If you get dropped a ridiculous spear, you might change your build around it. By the same token, you can't rely on getting that spear the second time around. Cheat it in if it suits you, but that's not a design flaw.

>/v/ is NintendoGaf
>a multiplat release for PC, Ps4 and Xbox One gets shitposted as fuck
I-i-i-it's paranoia anon-kun

>>323163404
>>323163772
RNG shenanigans was even worse in DaS2 due to enemy despawning. Weren't able to obtain that item you needed? LOL TOUGH SHIT FAGGOT, BURN AN ASCETIC AND TRY AGAIN. Especially annoying for consumables that you use over and over again

But yeah, alternative methods are better that you bypass the need for random drops, period. Instead of making me grind for some rare item, why not have every piece of armor, weapon, etc available as a placed item somewhere in the world rather than having it rely entirely on RNG? As for hard to obtain usable items like titanite slabs and chunks, why not just have them available (consistently) if doing certain multiplayer stuff like dorkmoons or dickwraiths?

>>323164005

It's a luck-based mechanic. I don't feel any sense of satisfaction or accomplishment spending either 10 minutes or 10 days trying to get a drop for a rare item/weapon.

And if I'm not grinding and suddenly get a super rare item accidentally?

My first thought is: "Man, I'm worried. I hope I haven't drained all my luck for this character so that I can get whatever it is I want later on without spending too much time farming for it."

This luck-based mechanic doesn't make me better at PvE. It doesn't make me better at PvP. It doesn't make me grow as a player. It's just an unnecessary factor of luck and randomness.

>>323164264
Join the fucking champion's covenant
It keeps enemies from respawning
I hate how people keep making this complaint, yes the game has issues, but this is not one of them Though RNG-weapon drops should not be a thing in a souls game

>>323164447
>join the champions
>I hate how people keep making this complaint

This fix was only introduced in scholars of the first sin.
In the original release of DaS2, there was nothing you could do to prevent enemy despawning. Yes, it' fixed now, but that doesn't change the fact that this was not the case when I and the majority of players actually went through the game. This criticism of DaS2 is still valid, although I'm glad they finally fixed it a year later.

>>323164412
>"Man, I'm worried. I hope I haven't drained all my luck for this character so that I can get whatever it is I want later on without spending too much time farming for it."
Anon I agree with most of what you said but this is retarded. You should know full well that's not how the drops work and if you think something so retarded you have no one but yourself to blame.

I disagree RNG drops should be remove completely, the one thing they do, as the person you responded to said is they make playthoughs unique. You aren't really SUPPOSED to farm for them. That's why sometimes in DaS they would make enemies like the Black Knights who dropped rare shit, not respawn. It's supposed to be a through of the dice every time if you get to playthough the game with the Halberd or BK Sword.

I think what they did in DaSII was dumb though. Any remotely special piece of equipment has to be farmed, sometimes from the same enemy who can drop repeat drops so if you're trying to get an armor set you're fucked. Really, making armor sets outside like a unique helmet, drops was a bad idea unless they were gonna drop the whole set at once.

>>323163772

Honestly, I thought Bloodborne was perfect on this. There were enough stones spread out in the game to easily level one weapon to +10 (2 on the DLC) and another to +9. All weapons were found or the consequence of a 100% drop.

I just hope they don't do shit like the Burial Blade or the Rakuyo and Bloodletter again, placing the weapon at the end of endgame zones, Although I got a shitload of use out of my Burial Blade by ignoring every side path and rushing to it, because it was buyable only after Gehrman, I was very overleveled when I did shit like Cainhurst and Upper Cathedral Ward.

I want to be able to romance Patches

>>323164447
One that fix is new so not everyone knows it became a thing (by the way it became a thing BECAUSE people complained) and not only that it doesn't even solve the problem. There are still special phantoms and enemies who only spawn under certain conditions or don't re-spawn even when in the covenant.

The RNG drops in DaSII are excessive, stop trying to convince yourself otherwise just because you're autistic enough to enjoy farming.

>>323164871

That's fucking retarded shit, and yes, it does block content. Normally when you create a second or third character, you want to make a build based around a certain weapon. Making it so that weapon is a random drop, means you're locked out of that particular direction until the RNG gods decide to aid you. If it's a rare drop from a fucking non-respawning enemy, you have to restart the game in order to make that build.

It's a shit fucking way of doing things, mate.

>>323165050
I disliked the idea of Burial Blade which you can only get by beating the "final" boss. I was kinda OK with Rakuyo though because really if you beat Amelia, then get to the DLC and beat up to Maria that's all you have to do to get it. Also I liked how you obtained it and its relationship with the lore.

Should I play DaS II before DaS III comes out?

>>323164871
> You should know full well that's not how the drops work
I was basically talking about the game's version of the Desire Sensor. That's what I was describing. That's just RNG being evil. To quote one definition I found from a quick Google search, the Desire Sensor is: "A gamer superstition. The Desire Sensor detects what rare item, or event you are farming for, and prevents the game from giving it to you. Only when you forget about it, or no longer need it will the item drop, or event happen."

>I think what they did in DaSII was dumb though.
It's basically the same RNG-based spirit of making playthroughs unique taken to a much more idiotic extent. I'm not gonna argue that the RNG is much worse in Dark Souls 2, but at the same time, it's just a dumber form of RNG that was already in previous Souls games.

If you want to have randomness, fine. But it should not be in things like RNG item drops. You already get tons of randomness through PvP. You never know when you're gonna get invaded and what the invader will bring to the table.

>>323165642
since they are reverting most of their shit to ds1 id say no
you may pick up bad habits
just wait for ds3

>>323165573

Yeah, I feel ya. I understand the thematic aspect of the placement of these items. It's frustrating that the game would lose something if they were placed somewhere else.

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Question to anyone who played the PTR:

Okay, in DaS2 is you R1'd right after rolling (while locked onto a target), it wouldn't redirect your attack in the direction of the tagrte you were locked on to, it would send you way off target attack out to the side somewhere.

Does DaS3 have the old system from DaS1 and Bloodborne, where if you R1 after rolling, the attack actually goes towards the thing you're locked onto?

This shit was aids in DaS2.

>>323165642

don't listen to this retard
>>323165764


It's always worth to pick up DS2. It's different, but still a great game with its own little quirks. Also, DS1 gameplay was clunkier, I think DS3 will have some of the snappiness of DS2

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Okay guys.

Look at this picture, while listening to this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBaM8eutHOg


NOW TRY NOT TO CRY

>>323165948
>This shit was aids in DaS2.

This actually helped you juke opponents in pvp, if you actually know how to aim. Git gud.

>>323165428
>yes, it does block content.
Yes, it does, I didn't disagree. I said you were retarded for blaming the game for you not understanding how luck works in the context of the game. Your luck can't "run out" I was calling you retarded for saying that. I agree 100 percent, it does block content. That's not what we disagree on, you insist that's automatically bad, I do not.

Blocking content is what a game should do. Are you saying every weapon, spell, armor and ring should be available from the start? But if not aren't they blocking content? Of course they are, because it's a fucking video game, you block content. That's what you do. You block content till people meet certain requirements. Again, your argument should not be "they block content" because blocking content isn't inherently bad. If they didn't REALLY hide some shit there would be no excitement from fining rare shit. If you had read my post carefully you would have realized I agree with you that DaSII took it too far.

One problem I feel is you sound like you look shit up, newsflash guy, we don't all do that. Even on second playthoughs. I didn't even know most of the rare drops I was missing. You say "you have to restart the game" really is someone holdign a gun to your head an saying "YOU MUST USE THIS WEAPON" No? Then you agree you don't HAVE to. You choose to because you've chosen to use a specific weapon. What weapon are you even referring to, I can't even think of a weapon early enough in the game that restarting would be faster than burning a bonfire aesthetic aside from maybe the Old Whip but it's not a drop and is an example of a rare secret weapon that I enjoy the existence of and difficulty to obtain.

>>323166023
skipping it isnt a big deal, the single player story in ds2 is pretty shit compared to ds1 and ds3 comes out soon enough
is it on sale or something? i wouldnt pay more than $10 for it

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>>323166128
>not just unlocking to juke people in DaS1

>>323165948
Jesus dude, learn to aim your weapons. I swear half the complaints about DS2 stem from people just not figuring shit out.

Both of the streamers I asked during the NT said that DS3 lets you use either scheme, but I'm not sure how they checked that since I thought that menus, etc. weren't available.

>>323165716
>"A gamer superstition
>superstition
There you go, the reason I called you retarded. You are blaming a game for your own retarded superstitions. Again, you don't have to believe this, there is literally no merit to it, you choose to because it FEELS true. So fuck you. Keep your superstitions and feelings to yourself, they aren't criticism to be leveled against the game. Stop being a retard and this isn't a problem anymore, it's never been a problem for me because I'm not a superstitious moron who gets anxious then blames the game for it.

>If you want to have randomness, fine. But it should not be in things like RNG item drops.
Explain. I can' argue against your points if you just present things as fact and don't explain. How was it taken "to an idiotic extent"? What level of uniqueness in playthoughs is possible? Honestly the issue here is you want to be able to make any character you want from the start of the game, I don't agree the player should have that power. I enjoy randomness to playthoughs no invasion are not enough. See that's what I mean by no argument. You just say "invasions are enough" even though they have nothing to do with what were talking about. Ok dude "Invasions are not enough is my argument". Focus on talking about RNG buddy, you're all over the place and I can't even respond to it.

>>323166627
>but I'm not sure how they checked that since I thought that menus, etc. weren't available.
some streamers probably don't even know what you're talking about and just made up shit.

>>323166627
Locked on should be locked on, the system should work as intended and not be fundamentally broken.

If you want to manual aim and bait, you unlock.

>>323165050
I thought the insanely limited amount of blood rocks was dumb as fuck.
At least you can buy them with insight now.

>>323166627
DS2 is restrictive as fuck, there's no way to change your play style to fix it you just have to learn what you can and can't do.
Its a very valid complaint

>>323166213

I'm not the guy talking about spending luck, mate. He replied to you above.

>Are you saying every weapon, spell, armor and ring should be available from the start?

No. I think every weapon, spell, armor and ring should be available to players able to overcome the challenge to get it, not through dumb luck. Blocking content isn't putting up in game obstacles, it's preventing the player from accessing the content.

None of the equipment in Bloodborne is blocked to a player that wants it, but not all of it is easily attainable either. I'd rather have a frustrating encounter like the well for the Rakuyo, than have it as a 10% drop on defeating Maria. One encourages you to up your game and come up with strategies, one fucks you out of content for absolutely no good reason.

>I didn't even know most of the rare drops I was missing. You say "you have to restart the game" really is someone holdign a gun to your head an saying "YOU MUST USE THIS WEAPON" No? Then you agree you don't HAVE to.

No, you fucking moron. What happens is you lose motivation to play because that particular way you wanted to experience the game isn't available to you.

>>323166903

The difference between +9 and +10 is minor for most weapons, it didn't bother me much.

>>323165000
That'd be an awesome common enemy though if it just ran around trying to smash you with its head like a great club

Also checked.

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>>323167017
Leaving a weapon at +9 is like leaving a major build stat at something that doesn't end with 5 or 0.

>>323166698
>You are blaming a game for your own retarded superstitions
Jesus fucking Christ, chill the fuck out. The Desire Sensor is used in RPGs and games that have plenty of RNG for loot. Nobody actually believes it exists the way eagles or monkeys or butterflies exist. Chill.

Anyway, the difference between the randomness of PvP/online and the randomness of item drops is that you can simply turn off the randomness of PvP/online by simply going offline. You can choose to relinquish or maintain control of your game by the simple click of a WiFi router button. If people want that, fine. I'm not one to enjoy PvP/coop, so I never turn online on in my game.

In contrast, the randomness of item drops is completely out of your control. You can't choose to turn it on or off. You have to cheat to bring control back into your hands. Otherwise, it's just giving the player less control and leaving things to the RNG dice.

>>323162001
Man I think the exact opposite. I think the industry is in desperate need of games that don't hold your hand and that you aren't guaranteed to win if you don't acquire the necessary level of skill.

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>>323167149

I know what you mean. But whatcha gonna do?

>>323167017
>I'm not the guy talking about spending luck, mate. He replied to you above.
I realized that after posting, not sure why you responded like you were him if you weren't though.
>Blocking content isn't putting up in game obstacles, it's preventing the player from accessing the content.
OK well that's your own special definition so don't get mad at me that you can't express your ideas properly. "Blocking content" means "blocking content" it does not mean "blocking content behind luck based challenges" which I know understand is what you take issue with and again, if you read my post you'd see I agree.
>No, you fucking moron. What happens is you lose motivation to play because that particular way you wanted to experience the game isn't available to you.
And as I pointed out this will only happen to you if you look shit up and insist on being a min max faggot. I already asked and you wouldn't answer, what weapon are you talking about? Every really rare weapon I can think of has a less rare counterpart that is usually exactly the same bar slight stat differences. In other words, if you really wanna play through with a Katana you can, it might take a while to find teh Berserker Blade or the Blacksteel Katana but if you wanna use a Katana you can with the only downside being slightly less damage. Your argument is weak because you agree people shouldn't just get whatever weapon they want at the start but then your argument here is "What if you can't play how you want from the start".

Also dude I agree DaSII went too far I just think you an the other guy are pussies because you're crying about not being able to get your precious Blacksteel Katana whose black blade is ever so much more elegant. Like seriously faggot, enough of this vague, hypothetical bullshit, start naming me some weapons you can't get easily and have no common counterpart.

>>323156463
>giant bladed blow that fires destruction arrows and is fast as fuck
>giant minigun of rapid fire mounted on back
>geroge washingtons hair

I DON'T UNDERSTAND
I DON'T UNDERSTAND ANY OF THIS
PRAISE JESUS

>>323155040
>sword misses him on the second hit
>still gets damaged and dies

Bravo Shityazaki, you're doing it again

>>323167185
>Jesus fucking Christ, chill the fuck out.
Did I hurt your feewings with my swears. I'll chill out when you stop acting like an actual child. Bring up bizarre superstitions as arguments then being surprised when it makes me mad. Not shit it makes me mad asshole, you are having a discussion with someone and have the nerve you use your personal superstitions as an arguing point. Don't bother opening your stupid trucking mouth if you can't stay relevant, on topic and deal with being insulted. Welcome to 4chan, is this your first post?
>The Desire Sensor is used in RPGs and games that have plenty of RNG for loot.
I'm baffled, what the fuck are you even talking about. It's "used" how is it used besides by retards who don't understand how luck works? I've certainly never "used" it because I'm not a retard.

> Nobody actually believes it
Then what was the purpose of bringing it up? I still don't see it other than you trying to use your own retarded feelings as a reason why drops are bad.

Not even reading the rest of your post till you address this. What a retarded thing to say.