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>This series isn't like any other weeb JRPG /v/ said!
>This is a deep, mature intricate saga for serious gamers with no pandering weeb shit!
>Suddenly a 2edgy4u loli in Gothic Lolita attire with a giant scythe and mech appears out of nowhere!
>Look up spoilers regarding 3rd and Crossbell
>She used to be a prostitute and got dickings from old men
>Another loli shows up who has FUCKING CAT EARS and is a kuudere who's also a former prostitute.
>Tita the loli in your party hooks up with an adult male and is just there to look cute
>Everything about Cold Steel

/v/ IS ALWAYS WRONG, NEVER LISTEN TO /v/!
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fuck off normie
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>>323146463
>You're a normie if you don't get turned on by pedo shit.

How'z about YOU fuck off and go take a seat by Chris Hansen already! Pedofaggot permavirgins like you are the reason the Japanese game industry is in the shape it is today!
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>>323146331
Just go play Suikoden and Front Mission 3 you dingdong
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>>323146714
fuck off normie
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>Trails
>no pandering
Top kek, said literally no one ever
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>>323146891
Well I was under the impression from /v/ and various gaming sites that this was a JRPG series like how they used to make em, you know in the same vein as Grandia, Lunar, old Final Fantasy, Suikoden etc.

NOPE! Turns out this is another pile of pandering weeb-shit, another Neptunia just disguised better with "muh lore and dialogue~!"
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>>323146714
You're welcome.
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Ys is the superior series anyway
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>>323147110
Does that series also have loli pandering shit? Cause this Falcom developer isn't giving me the best first impression right now...
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>>323146331
>>323146714
>>>/reddit/
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I LOVE ESTELLE!
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>>323146714
No one asks you to be turned on retard, you don't need to fap everytime there's a female character on screen
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Still not as shit as Lunar.
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>>323147558
So what other reason does one need to put in lolis getting molested into their games for no other reason but to please the permavirgin pedo audience?

What artistic merit is there to lolis getting sexually violated?
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>>323147671
At least Lunar didn't have fanservice that pandered to weebs, at least its fanservice was all of GROWN WOMEN!
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>ITT: People that fail at using the english language

None of you even know what pandering means and will list games claiming it doesn't contain any when it clearly does.
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>>323147695
Maybe it's relevant to the story?
>>323147760
>At least Lunar didn't have fanservice that pandered to weebs
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>>323147792
>Having weebshit like edgy loli, kuudere loli, school setting, tsundere-shit and lolis getting raped and molested isn't pandering
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>>323147874
What kind of story could even be worth telling if it has to involve the prostitution of lolis (and very suspiciously ONLY lolis and not grown women) lolis that might I remind you, are based on typical weeb/otaku pandering tropes already such as kuudere, edgy, etc.

>That fanservice is weeb fanservice

Nothing weeby about it, are you blind? All the Lunar girls are of age, in fact there's not even a single loli in your party in 1 or 2!
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>>323148149
Lunar was weebshit as fuck though, full of anime tropes, generic anime design, fanservice shot. It was the Neptunia of the 90's
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>>323148446
If only Nep had art half as good.
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>>323148446
We've been over this before anon.

>anime/shounen tropes /=/ weebshit tropes

There is a big, big, BIG different at anime, manga and games aimed for the shounen/general audience crowd and the weeb/neckbeard crowd. Lunar falls into the former. Again note how there are no lolis or tsunderes to be found and how the fanservice shots are all of your OF AGE female party-members.
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>>323149096
*difference I mean, not "different" stupid phone!
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You are now aware that, if Estelle and Joshua had just taken the black orbment and went home, the intelligence division never would've known where it was or gotten their hands on it. The seal beneath grancel castle never would've been released, the towers never would have been activated, and none of this would've happened
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>>323149432

Why would they go home? The clues to where their dad went was tied with the black orbment's notes to deliver it to zeiss
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>>323149096
It's more
>trope i like = not weeb
>trope i don't like = weeb
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>>323147524
Don't we all?
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>>323149636
Why should they have gone chasing after him in the first place once they discovered that he wasn't with the hostages because he had gotten off the linde before it took off? They knew he was safe and had his business under control because of the letter he sent.
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>>323146331
High school setting should set off all the alarms.
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>>323147050

>Grandia
>Suikoden
>Old FF
>Lunar

All those games were weebshit too though
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>>323149761
Noo its more like-

>trope from haremshit/eroge/moeshit = otaku/weebshit
>trope for general audience with no pedo/harem shit = not weeb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuqzR-iMas
Is Sophisticated Battle one of the best battle themes ever or what?
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>>323149895
Where, in any of those games were there generic tsunderes, kuudere lolis or lolis who got molested? Please, feel free to point them out!
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>>323149854

To be senior bracers of course. The primary reason they set off was to become senior bracers, it just followed that the Linde was stolen by the Capuas
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>>323146331
Hol up, what kinda lolis are in cold steel?
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>>323149912
You're fucking retarded, you know that little girls get molested in real life all the time, right? It's a serious fucking issue. You're basically saying no characters in a game should have a REAL LIFE ISSUE in their backstory or it's pedo pandering. That's fucking stupid.
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>>323150057
There's three of them, Towa (Falcom's Lightning) Your obligatory kuudere loli Fie, and the Genki loli Millium.
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>>323150057
there are none in cold steel, there are younger looking girls but no lolis
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Why do Australians claim they speak English?
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>>323149997

>Rydia isn't a character pandering to both lolicons and cowtit lovers
>Millenia isn't a character for femdom fetishists

Get fucked nigger
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>>323150132
Towa is older than Rean

Fie is 15

Millium is the closest thing to a loli at 13
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>>323150082
You know who also get raped a lot and even more then LITTLE girls? Oh yeah, GROWN ASS WOMEN!

But no, hmm for some suspicious reason Japan chooses instead to focus on the little girl aspect of it instead, yeah I'm sure they have reallll serious intentions of highlighting and addressing serious social issue, especially when the girls fit tropes straight out of a fetish delivery service!

/s
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>>323150132
Two of those aren't lolis, Anon. Just petite young women.
Though I do agree that Fie the "loli mascot" role of this story arc and fills the void Tio left.
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>>323149998
Exactly. They went looking for trouble so they could become senior bracers, and that is why all this happened in the first place. It's all their fault
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>>323150215
Rydia acts like a normal little girl and is never sexually harassed.

The "Femdom trope" isn't a popular trope at all among otaku.


Nice try tho!
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>>323150284
Cry more, bitchass.

Why are you so triggered, Anon? Did daddy touch you in bad places?
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>>323150229
>>323150309
>JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS THE BODY OF A LITTLE GIRL AND LOOKS LIKE ONE DOESN'T MEAN SHE IS ONE OFFICER I SWEAR! SHE'S REALLY A 1000000 YEAR OLD GODDESS!

Literally the oldest loli-trope in the book.
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>>323146463
>>323146714
>>323146862
Take it back to /reddit9k/
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>>323150472
>petite women are children
>fucking petite women is pedophilia
[email protected]
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>>323150462
Why are you weeb pedos so sexually frusturated that you can't even tolerate playing a single video game without sexy lolis in it to fap to?

In fact why are you even sexually attracted to LITTLE GIRLS in the first place? What is so appealing about boob-less child with absolutely no sex appeal, what are you secretly gay?
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>>323150472
Australia please go.
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>>323150625
I regret to inform you that I don't play TRAILS GAMES so i have something to fap to, that's fucking stupid. Trails doesn't need that shit, they are strong games that stand well enough on their own for their great writing, stories and music. Just because you're triggered by character design and tragic backstories doesn't mean I'm a pedo
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To be fair the Tales series is about as safe and generic RPG as you can get, I do agree that anyone who said 'this series isn't like any other weeb JRPG' is full of shit
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>>323150368

So just because it's not popular doesn't make it weeb? Fuck off
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>>323150843
And now I realise it isn't the Tales series at all, nevermind
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>>323150843
This isn't Tales, it's Trails. Tales is shit-tier.
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>>323150821
>Doesn't need that shit
>Includes former loli prostitutes one that even wears FUCKING CAT EARS, "just because~!"

Gee sounds like a series that's really confident in its story to stand on its own two feet without dem delicious otaku betabux...
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>>323149432

>implying the Thirteen Factories wouldn't just have made a replacement
>implying Weisguy wouldn't have figured that out
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>>323150357

So why would they go back home? They never knew any of ouroboros' plans or if they existed, so why would they go home after all that when they can become senior bracers? That was the primary goal right?

It's like blaming everything on hindsight
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>>323150625

>sexualizing any Falcom character
>ever

I've a weird connection with Falcom games now that I think about it.
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PLEASES OLD MEN FOR MONEY!
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>>323150959
Oh no, such triggering character design and backstories

It's such a horrible thing that these characters have actual bad things happen to them in their backstories, how dare falcom trigger you with real world issues.

Maybe the calvard arc will be all sunshine and rainbows and nobody will get triggered by cold, hard reality.
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>>323151109
I didn't and never wanted to, Falcom did that all on their own.
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>>323151217

Nah, it's clearly you, you're the one hung up on everything you've been crying about.
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>>323151165
>Wants to make characters with tragic backstories
>Makes the victims of rape and prostitution lolis instead of grown women "JUST BECAUSE~!"

Please try and tell me what artistic merit there was for making the lolis be the ones with this kind of backstory? Nothing would have changed for dramatic intent in the story if it was grown women. There was literally no reason to make it happen specifically to the lolis, none, unless you're specifically trying to pander to the Neptunia audience.
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I am going to marry Fie!
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I like how in the first game Joshua was fucking stronger than any other character damage-wise. Basically using gameplay to reinforce his character background of being this nothing-personnel-kid assassin for Ourobros.
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>>323151457
he's supposed to be strong?
I just started and he's the weakest fucking character by far. Misses most attacks and his magic is ass
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>>323150625
You're the one that make everything about sex buddy
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>>323151441
First of all, just because you are triggered by child rape doesn't mean it has to be hidden away and ignored. It happens in the real world. There are tons of child prostitutes, so again, you can be triggered by it but that doesn't make it unacceptable as part of the character's backstory.

Now, as for why Renne couldn't have been an adult instead, it's pretty simple. Renne being a traumatised edgy child is necessary for the plot because she is eventually adopted by Estelle and Joshua and given a better life - just like Cassius did for Joshua.

Again, it may trigger you, but child prostitution is a real thing in the world, and this particular prostitute's backstory was necessary for justifying her edginess and is handled very maturely.

Now, fuck off, triggered kiddo.
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>>323151729
>Two lolis in the game LITERALLY get sexxed-up
>Y-Y-YOU'RE THE ONE MAKING IT ABOUT SEX ANON!!!!
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>>323151904
>those loli were raped
>it means they want me to fap to them
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This thread reminds me of a story.

>Neet friend inherits a shit ton of money after his obese mom passes away, 400k plus a condo.
>Decides to go on sex trip to Thailand to fuck lolis.
>Spends a month fucking teenagers, sucking back nitro balloons, and getting shitfaced for next to nothing.
>Flies into Vancouver for a stop-over before coming home.
>Customs guy rifles through his shit after seeing he went to Pattaya, (aka hooker capital of Orient), find weird shit like cock rings, bondage gear, etc.
>They look through his laptop.
>Discover loli porn.
>Determine it's "child pronography", and destroy his laptop, despite not being charged with a crime.
>He's stuck in a room with a young female customs agent while this is happening, uncomfortable as fuck.
>They print of a receipt for his destroyed laptop and hand it to him.
>He shrugs and says "it was a piece of shit anyways."
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>>323151881
Assuming I give Renne's story the benefit of the doubt cause of the whole "adoption" aspect, how then do you explain Tio who had literally the exact same thing happen to her? And no, there was absolutely no thematic reason for her to be child either.

Again I'm not denying child rape doesn't happen, but honestly its really an extremely small minority in the world practiced by the mentally ill, degenerates and backwards 3rd World religioustards. Grown women being raped and trafficked is far, far, FAR more prevalent, not that I'm a SJW or anything, far from it but you would think if they wanted to address an incredibly wide-spread social issue and have it resonate with the audience they would choose the one that's far more prevalent.

Hell even with Renne there were other ways they could do it, why have it be rape, why not something equally traumatic? (Yes, there is plenty) or if they had to go the rape route why not make her a shota instead? Why did it have to be SPECIFICALLY a loli?
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>>323152161
Sounds like a pretty cool friend.
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>>323151625

>I just started and he's the weakest fucking character by far.

Eh, really? My experience was (in two playthroughs) that Estelle misses more.

Anyway, as for why he's strong: I vaguely recall either him or a later character having the highest speed so he's either 2nd or first there.

His crafts are great damage-wise too. Minor spoiler but he eventually gets delaying crafts (Flicker and Evil Eye) that delays enemy turns and deal physical damage. Both of these are my favorites.

He has very high offensive stats later on. I built him as a complete glass cannon. His black quartz requirement leads to arts like Hell's Gate or White Gehenna that most monsters aren't weak or resistant to.

Anyway, my favorite thing to do is just Flicker with him. That shit almost never misses. Of course I switched over to Evil Eye once I got it. He's got much better use of your CP buffing accessories. I think the only other character that can match him damage wise is Tita in the first game.
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>>323152287

Honestly, he's a bastard. But the situations he gets himself in are practically unbelievable.
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>>323149096
So shitty JRPG tropes are acceptable if the girls involved are older than 16?
Shit writing is still shit writing, anon.
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>>323152279
Obviously because they wanted to trigger you, now fuck the fuck off, us grown ups who are mentally mature enough to handle difficult issues in works of fiction don't need to deal with the rantings of a triggered fuckboy.
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>>323152440
It might be shit but at least its not pathetic or desperate enough to pander to the lowest common denominator that is the permavirgin weeb crowd.
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>>323149895
>Suikoden
Only went full weebshit from 4.
1 is fine, 2 only has Nanami and 3 is fine.

>old FF
IV is the only shitty one and even then there's just one loli who becomes a turboslut after growing older.
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>>323152442
>No rebuttal to my long, well-thought out one
>Swears at me angrily just telling me to GTFO

Looks like you're the one whose triggered upon revealing the truth that your precious Kiseki is weebshit like all the rest.
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>>323152657
How was 5 weeb dumb shit?
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>>323150625
lolis are for cute, not sex.
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>>323152689
Nothing about your posts here have been well thought out. You are literally a triggered mental midget screaming "BUT WHY COULDN'T SHE HAVE BEEN OF AGE!?? :((((" and I'm sick of your crying
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>>323152751
>Its so cute to see little girls get dickings from old men gaiz!
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>>323152850
>Translation: I am ashamed of my deeply degenerate pedo desires and know I will never ever get laid cause normal grown women do nothing for me, thus I am sexually frusturated and am lashing out cause an anon exposed the truth about me!
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>>323153050
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>>323153050
Okay, pal. You can go now and leave the grown ups to talk about our game.
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>>323146331
No. It is EVERY jrpg ever
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>>323146331
How many anons in this thread should I keep away from my future daughters?
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>>323153136
>Its childish to be attracted to woomen your own age and not a LITERAL CHILDREN!
>Implying I'M the child.
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>>323153136
fuck off frogposter
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>>323153209
>Implying anyone here is interested in disgusting 3DPD
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>>323153291
He doesn't need to imply it. I'm astounded an adult can muster up convictions about something so fucking asinine in this venue
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>>323153291
>I'm triggered by something in a game
>That means everyone else is literally fapping to it!
I'm embarrassed for you.
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>>323153291
>attracted
Once again you're thinking with your dick
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>>323150215
Millenia is the only decent female character in Grandia 2, though, and one of the two characters to get any development.
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>>323153394
>>323153398
>>323153429
Considering what Japan puts out and the weeb/otaku audience is it really any wonder I would jump to that conclusion?
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>>323153604
>it's Japns fault if I need to fap every five minutes
Fuck off in a SK thread, it's full of retard like you
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>>323153739
>Lolis are not for sexualizing!

Explain that to the weeb audience then? They're the ones with the problem!
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>>323152724
You mean Suikoden V?
The game that locks you out of the "perfect ending" if you don't sleep with your 8 years old sister?
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>>323153925
What?
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>>323146331
...Is this a stealth marketing thread?
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>>323146331
Is SMT weebshit?
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>>323154063
Persona 3 and 4 yes, anything before that though, no.
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>>323153885
>get excited by rape backstories and want to fap
>They're the one with a problem not me
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>>323154197
But I'm a well-adjusted non-weeb that has a girlfriend and is attracted to grown women. Why would I need to fap to loli rape like a loser permavirgin?
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>>323154312
People don't play trails games to fap to renne's backstory, idiot
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>>323154312
>Why would I need to fap to loli rape like a loser permavirgin?
You tell me, I don't play video game to fap.
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>>323146331

>Being triggered this hard

I'm just going to post Towa.
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Are we all getting baited or is this nigga this stupid?
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>>323154423
>More lolis appear throughout the series
>Tio has the exact same backstory
>Cold Steel has a literal waifu system!


Suuuuuuuuuuuure they don't...
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>>323154569
we're all getting baited by this stupid nigga
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>>323154597
>waifu system
Uhh... You mean the linking system dor combat?

No. You clearly know nothing about the game.
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>>323154674
So the reason why every Trails thread is filled with waifu-faggotry is simply due to discussion of a combat mechanic?

Ya don't say!
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>>323154549
You are part of the problem why Japan no longer makes good games and only pantyquests.
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>>323154778
>the players like the characters
>That means the games are dating simulators!
Please kill yourself.
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I wonder what would happen if a Western game dared to feature little girls that had rape backstories?

Would OP still be triggered this hard or would it still get a free-pass on account of not being "weebshit."
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>>323154778
That's because waifufags are obnoxious, obsessive retard and like you they tend to see things that don't exist
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>>323155138
Probably not, then he'd just praise it for having a "deep and mature story for mature gamers such as himself!"
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>>323151446
Crow is still best girl!
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>>323155569
Bump for best girl lewd Estelle!
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>>323154853

Hey man, I don't tell you how to live your life.

I just want to enjoy my Towa.
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Looks like OP got BTFO and abandoned ship.

All is right in the world again.
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>Release the first, second and sixth games in the series in that order

Are XSEED retarded?
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>>323156642
Crossbell is largely irrelevant. Cold Steel tells the whole story.
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>>323156490
Good! normiecucks already have their containment board, its called Reddit.
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>>323156831
Trails in the Sky 1 is largely irrelevant but I'm still glad I could play it.

There's no way I'm buying Sen before Ao and Zero.
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>>323156642

Seeing the way it turned out, I don't actually think they were wrong in doing so.

As far as we know, SC bombed pretty badly. But the timing of releasing CS is cashing in hard on people's Persona boners and is giving the series another shot at staying alive internationally. From a marketing standpoint, this was a really good time to release this game.
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>>323157135
If you don't buy Sen now, Zero and Ao really will be NEVER EVER! Just buy it to help get Crossbell over but don't play it till they're all released, what's the problem?
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>>323156490
>>323157026
Fuck off redditors
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>>323157493
>Zero and Ao really will be NEVER EVER
It really won't. If I had started learning to read Japanese when Trails 1 first came out I could have played SC before it came out in English.
I'm not going to buy their out of order releases in the vain hope that I might get a translation. I'm learning Japanese instead.

I hope your plan works out though, it just doesn't seem reliable enough to me based on what I've seen up until now.
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>>323157670
>Trying to memorize all those thousands of complicated-drawn Kanji that can have multiple meanings as an adult where its already hard to learn a new language

You'll have better luck just hoping for a localization, its literally IMPOSSIBLE!
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>>323157670
>I'm learning Japanese instead.
Severe autism.
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>>323157821
It's easier to learn as an adult than as I kid, I know English and I know how to use dictionaries so I have all the tools I need to learn.
I love the "You can't learn Japanese" meme though.
It's actually pretty easy.
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>>323157934
Yeah except the kanji part.

Which is arguably the most important part of the language you'll have to learn if you want to play a text-heavy series like Trails.

And no research shows that it gets harder and harder to learn a new language every year that you age.
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>>323157934

>It's easier to learn as an adult than as a kid

Not the person you're arguing with, but I just wanted to say that is scientifically proven to be objectively wrong because of the differences in the ways the mind and learning work as a kid vs an adult, especially in regards to language. Learning multiple languages is almost always easier for a kid than an adult.

But good for you though. Keep it up.
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>>323158104
Link to that research? I'm curious about it.

And saying kanji is hard would be like saying words are hard.
They are hard until you learn them, then they aren't hard.
Hell, kanji makes things easier after a while since if you know half a word it makes guessing the second half that much simpler.
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>>323157934
Take it from me, I started taking Japanese classes in high school since I was 17 and continued on to college, I am now 23.

I was never able to get any farther then Japanese 2, why?

Everything was pretty easy for me until we had to start seriously memorizing more then 50 Kanji, that was when I started failing.

Chink runes are a bitchass to learn, there's a reason the Chinese language is considered the hardest language in the world to learn.
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I miss Crow...
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>>323156831
Cold Steel is irrelevant. Crossbell told its whole story and it actually had one of the Septerrions appear in it
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>>323157831
>Learning is autism
Only on /v/ would anyone be retarded to say that.
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>>323158104
>Kanji is hard is like saying words are hard!

Huh? That analogy literally makes no sense, kanji doesn't have anything to do with memorizing new vocab words, its literally the Chinese/Jap version of "spelling"

And yes its incredibly hard to learn because they're intricately and complicatedly drawn with no real easy english equivalent look-ups if you can't recognize how they're drawn, they're double the pain if you're not a visual learner too.
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>>323158273
>50 Kanji
I don't even consider my reading proficient but holy shit that is not a lot of kanji.
Numbers 1 to 10, basic colors, days of the week, house pets and breakfast and you're pretty much at 50 right there.
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>>323154597
You're the only one sexualizing Renne here you sick fuck.
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>>323158273

Exact same thing for me.

The funny part is that I can actually understand spoken Japanese and read well enough by just plugging a kanji into a dictionary and working out the sounds and sentence structure in my head until it matches a phrase that I'm familiar with, but I can't even remember Kanji I was tested on back when I was actually studying it.

That shit broke me.
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>>323158448
>if you can't recognize how they're drawn, they're double the pain
It doesn't take long to learn how they're drawn and learning that it pretty important.
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>Kiseki being a weeb JRPG

Why the fuck does this matter exactly?
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>>323152279
Tio wasn't a prostitute what the fuck?
You EOPs shouldn't talk about shit you have no idea about.
Only Renne was in Paradise that is the particular place that prostituted kids
Tio was in another place and while she did went through experimentation it's directly stated she never went through what Renne did.

And there is a very clear plot related reason why they were all kids
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>>323156831
>Crossbell is largely irrelevant
I'm just going to assume you're pretending to be retarded.
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>>323158793
I assumed he's working for XSEED.

The only reason we got Sen before Crossbell is that they want to get the PS3 games out here before the PS3 dies here. The PC isn't going anywhere so those games can wait.
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>>323158571
Same, spoken Japanese and everything about the language besides Kanji is easy as fuck, its honestly making me seriously consider just importing the Zero/Ao Evo versions since I'll most likely get through them fine.

Then I remember only the main quest is voiced so I'll only literally be able to play half the game since Kiseki games put so much emphasis on NPC villagers and sidequests as part of their "meat."

:(
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>>323152279
>I'm not denying child rape doesn't happen, it just only happens in <the exact circumstance in which it happens in the game>
Okay bub
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Next time get trigger3d with the gun against your head, femifuck. :^)
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>>323158913
I've never tried playing the PC versions but wouldn't you be able to plug a text grabber into them and parse all the text without any effort?
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>>323158891
How can they even localized Crossbell?
The PSP is dead, the Evo versions are tied to chara-ani and there is no PC version.(sans those terrible chinese ports)
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>>323159047
Ao doesn't have a Japanese port though, only Zero.
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>>323159178
They released at least two PSP games last year.
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>>323159252
And localizing 2 more this year.
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>>323159178
Theoretically they could possibly localize the Evo versions (which would honestly be the best option) if we could get another #JRPGVita campaign going with Shahid and demand the Crossbell duology (it worked for Hearts R)

The one real problem with the Evo versions being tied to Chara-Ani is the fact that XSEED can't afford to get the rights to their voices and they can't afford to dub the EVO games fully on their own either. For some reason they're stubborn though and have this bullshit policy that if they have to release a game with cut content (i.e. English Evo versions therefore wouldn't be able to have voices at all due to licensing costs) they just won't release it at all.

I think a situation like this calls for another #JRPGVita campaign and start a petition begging XSEED to localize the Evo versions with or without the voices and saying we don't care even if we get less content from the Japanese releases, we just want the games!
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>>323159178

Supposedly Its being fan-translated.

As of around Christmas they were at 60% with Zero, and expect to have it finished by next December.

If they decide to do Ao it'll finished in 2018 at the earliest.
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>>323159554
>For some reason they're stubborn though and have this bullshit policy that if they have to release a game with cut content (i.e. English Evo versions therefore wouldn't be able to have voices at all due to licensing costs) they just won't release it at all.
It's more like people are already autistic enough to boycott games for not having dual audio, so announcing a game that is an enhanced port whose main draw was a feature you had to cut would devastate their sales
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>>323159849
That's why I'm saying a petition or another #JRPGVita campaign with Shahid could hopefully drown out the autism.
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>>323159849
Not releasing the game would devastate its sales more than releasing it without voice acting.
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>>323155138
A few western games do that and this >>323155357 is usually the exact response even though it's almost always just thrown in purely for shock value rather than having actual reasons for it in the plot and it being just a small part of a complex character's backstory like it is in Kiseki
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>>323159946
Considering the lack of popularity for the series, I doubt it. Nobody really cares about Trails in the west compared to the Tales series which has legions of fans who will buy every Tales game (and Tales is also more accessible on top of that due to being an ARPG).
>>323159959
From Xseed's perspective, spending years to localize games that will sell poorly is less financially devastating than not localizing them
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Honestly i hate Renne and think she's by far the worst character in SC.
Disgusting little special snowflake.
At least you can slap her shit a few times.
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>>323160206
They wouldn't need to spend years if they didn't waste time dubbing or outsourcing the localization to mentally unstable man children.
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>>323160294
I doubt you would hate her after 3rd and Zero.
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>>323160294
Some of the absolute best scenes in four of the games are about Renne, including some in SC. If you didn't feel anything after her fight in the Axis Pillar then I think you might just hate cute things.
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Who is best Kiseki and why is it Dudley?
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>>323158676
People want to enjoy something but can't because the game might contain elements that a demographic they despise might like.
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>>323161219
The problem with Renne is she has way too much going for her compared to anyone in the game.
Intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor, capable of controlling robots and being a keikaku doori master, with a weapon that prompts 1hko status.

Tita is a good character because she's just a lonely little girl without friends who started to care about equally lone guy who lost his sister in childhood. Estelle has a radiant personality but pretty weak combat-wise and too rash to act. Joshua is just a broken mind-controlled puppet. And suddenly this special snowflake appears.
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>>323161379
>irrelevant: the character
Go away sara, you just want to fuck anything near death.
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>>323146331
You brought it on yourself tho.
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>>323161626
>The problem with Renne is she has way too much going for her compared to anyone in the game.
Except being the source of numerous headaches throughout the entirety of chapter 3, and you know, threatening to murder the protagonist.
>capable of controlling robots and being a keikaku doori master, with a weapon that prompts 1hko status.
>a boss character is strong
woah
>Tita is a good character because she's just a lonely little girl without friends who started to care about equally lone guy who lost his sister in childhood. Estelle has a radiant personality but pretty weak combat-wise and too rash to act. Joshua is just a broken mind-controlled puppet. And suddenly this special snowflake appears.
Renne is more broken than Joshua, she was just strong enough mentally to survive it, unlike Joshua (which is exactly what Joshua says about her). Her mental problems run about as deep as his do and she is in no way perfect. Her master plan only worked because nobody suspected the 11-year-old to be a member of Ouroboros, it wasn't that brilliant of a plan and if she wasn't a child the cast would have seen right through her. She might be incredibly strong in combat due to experimental Gnosis fuckery on top of training from Joshua and presumably Loewe, but she's almost as much a puppet as Joshua, in more ways than one. She's just fooled herself into believing she isn't.
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>>323159615
I heard the group behind the translation is really fucking bad, like google translator-tier.
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>>323150368
>Rydia acts like a normal little girl and is never sexually harassed
Yeah, I bet when those 2 adult males in their 20s took that unconscious 8 year old girl to an out of town hotel after they killed her mom nothing bad happened.
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>>323146331
OP didn't actually play the game or doesn't like to read.

Seriously getting tired of people using the words stereotype and cliche in the wrong context.

Being a cliche character is not the equivalent being a badly written character.
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>>323150625
The character is literally written in such a way that she is emotionally scarred from the experience. As such Estelle does her best to break her out of that.

You think this is pedo pandering even though there isn't a shred of sex scene involved in it, its literally JUST a backstory to make the player feel bad for her and wanting to do something about it.
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>>323162997
Her backstory is basically the basis of the plot of Zero and Ao so it's not just to make the player feel bad for
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>>323162360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yhmVcOxWK0

They have this guy on the team, so take that as you will.

There is also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmT5-0Oo9RE
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>>323163938
The first video seems decent(7/10 in quality).
The second however is cringe inducing in every line.
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>>323147301
Please kill yourself.
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Ready or not here i come!
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>>323165047
Renne or not here I come!
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>>323165047
>Renne's dubbed voice
How disgusting.
Actually it's not nearly as bad as I had expected it to be.
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>>323165047
I don't understand how she's supposed to be strong.
The only difficulty in her battle comes from her robots. She's an annoyance at best.
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>>323166029
clearly deep lore for Ao.
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>>323166029
She was experimented with and pretty much feed with gnosis shit, Renne being strong is actually one of the most explained thing in the franchise.
She possesses the ability to master everything almost instantly, in battle she is at the level of Walter in 1 on 1
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Benis xDDDD
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Daily reminder that she's the Grandmaster
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>>323169086
Towa is the Grandmaster.
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>>323161391
You mean like Undertale and SJWs?
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>>323162437
Not all men are attracted to little girls, most are normal that can't get hard at anything that doesn't have boobs, stop seeing everything through your degenerate weeb lenses.
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>>323162714
But creating a character solely to pander to a certain group is the sole definition of bad character writing!
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>tfw English translation made Renne into Doomguy
She never said anything like RIP AND TEAR YOUR GUTS OUT in the Japanese version
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It's a shame that people who play Cold Steel without also playing FC/SC will never be able to truly appreciate Olivert's greatness.
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>>323146331
>Hurr durr this game is shit! You lied to me!
>Has played through at least two entries of the series, which can amount to around 80 hours of playtime

So you just wanted a Trails thread?
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>>323170384
Cliches aren't "pandering" either.

Cliches are more like a tool to use when creating a character and it deals with all the aspects of a character that donmt deal with that pandering shit.

Thats more from a design perspective.

Its more like...okay we got 9 characters lets make them well-balanced by having many different personalities and motivations and shit.
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Kill every last noble in this thread.
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>>323146714
>>323146331
Goddamn what a fucking retarded little cancer.
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>>323159554
>The one real problem with the Evo versions being tied to Chara-Ani is the fact that XSEED can't get the rights full stop according to Falcom
Fixed that for you. There is no hope for Evo versions, and the Vita is dead in the West anyway.
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>>323172596

I dunno about that, its still getting games localized. I mean people keep saying its been dead since 2012, but its still here
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>>323172790
>Vita came out 4 years ago
And all i played on it were the Kiseki Evo games.
Garghav Trilogy Evolution when?
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>>323173290
where did the time go
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>>323173290

Vita actually came out 2010-2011 I think and it had a massive drought of games during those times. In fact, 2013 was a start of a decent amount of localization so its better off now than it was years before

>gagharv trilogy

Man, that didn't even sell well, its really TiTS (and Ark of Napishtim) that pushed Falcom during their trying times, I doubt they'll make a Gagharv anything soon. At this point they should drop the Eiyuu Densetsu name all together and just make it "Kiseki"
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>>323173793
It was a late 2011 release for Japan, early 2012 for the rest of the world.
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Crow is best girl and best love interest.
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>>323147928
>prostitution
>rape or molestation
A willful act can be neither of those things.
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>>323170056
Exactly.
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http://www.falcom.com/info/secret_giftwp/falmaga/falcommagazine59.pdf
>It's a Sara chapter
MY DICK
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>>323152279
Because the group that sold Renne as a prostitute had politicians as clintele who they later blackmailed
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>>323175780
into the trash it goes
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>>323175938
>not liking best girl of Sen
I bet you like Towa or Fie too you commoner.
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>>323175906
That doesn't answer my question... All it says is that the politicians that were clients were all secretly degenerate pedo weebs that were meant to act as self-insert material for the audience.

After all there's a reason why we never see Renne's "customers" in the 3rd.
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>>323164574
I believe the second video is from before the guy in the first video joined the team, so we'll just have to see.
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>>323146331
Of course. Japs cant make believable games without pandering to neckbeards to save their lives.
>listening to /v/
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>>323176214
The politicians are degenerate pedophiles, yes. That is very much the point anon, I'm glad you finally get it. Crossbell is a fucked up place rife with corruption.
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>>323176214
What question?
First you can see one of the client in Zero, it's a big plot point.
And there is an actually explained reason why kids were kidnapped and why Renne was prostituted.
Played Zero and Ao
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>>323146463
Fuck off to your containment board lost little robot faggot
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>>323172790
It would take them at least 2 years to localize both, and they would have to localize 3rd before that. You really think the Vita is going to be around in 2019?
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This just proves that we need two extra boards, one for nintendoshit and another for weebshit
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>>323176781
What would be left in /v/ then?
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>>323176781
But we already have /toy/ and /jp/.
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>>323146891
I fucking wish, kiseki fags are so far up their own ass that their shitty incomplete games are so much different than the norm. They are more generic than tales.
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Okay so I'm halfway through Chapter 2 in SC and I won't lie I'm finding it kinda boring.

When does it really start picking up? These quests kinda suck too.
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>>323176851
There's plenty of people in /v/ who likes neither. Infact, its probably the majority from what ive seen.
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>>323177392
lol
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>>323177317
When you start to explore the old school building.
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>>323176871
Well judging from all the fucking waifuthreads and the raped top 100 games list (like 6 zelda and mario games in top 10) they aren't posting there.
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>>323177317
Like the very end, trails in the sky is just really dull and meanders about for no real reason when the plot should be moving.
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>>323177431
lmao
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>>323177392
>There's plenty of people in /v/ who likes neither. Infact, its probably the majority from what ive seen.

you do realize what website you are on right? Or are you genuinely autistic enough to not notice the chan in the fuck name?
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>>323177317
How the hell can anyone who finished FC find SC boring?

...You DID play the first game, didn't you?
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>>323177652
kek
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>>323177668
You can be an anime fan and still dislike boring, pandering and JRPG trope relying weebshit with no substance and instead play good Jap games.
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>>323177714
Zezzle
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>>323177518
That happened at the end of chapter 1 desu was the cool part

>>323177695
Of course I did. Though I found the first parts of FC boring too so there's that. SC had a way better prologue but then I found chapter 1 boring. I guess I just want the cool stuff to start cause revisiting all these towns and doing the quests again isn't exactly great.
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>>323176437
I heard they are gonna translate the title as Trails of /from the Void. Is this acceptable from as story standpoint
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>>323177317
chapter 2 is Zeiss right? It'll get fun pretty quickly. Creepy Sheep sentai and Walter the Lanky Wolf soon.
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>>323179121
Kind of.
Why the first game is called Zero is only explained in Ao anyways
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>>323179285
May I ask for the reason?
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>>323179447
No, it's a spoiler
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NuVj4xKWsQ

IMAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>323179610
WAKARE NO TOKIIIII
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>>323179610
I prefer the final ending song, especially with the build-up.
I'm a sucker for these graduation type scenes
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>>323179610
crow died like a chump.
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>>323180089
Live for no one, not even yourself.
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>>323180089
>cuckpit got impaled by a massive pillar
>somehow only his heart is impaled and not the entire body crushed
typical anime logic
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>liked Kevin in SC
>watching some videos of 3rd
>suddenly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1BZJEMjpnc
If he's number 5, who the fuck is number 1 of all Dominion members and how strong he is?
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>>323180715
>he
Ein is a girl. remember those Carnelia volumes you collect in FC? Ein is Carnelia
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Name on the semen demon on far left please
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>>323178789
It picks up when she becomes relevant.
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>>323181420
Rixia Mao
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>that feel when I want to go to Kiseki thread but people always spoil everything
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>>323182735
It's because of bitter nipfags. Fucking losers.
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>>323182735
Grandmaster is Dorothy.
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