>This series isn't like any other weeb JRPG /v/ said!
>This is a deep, mature intricate saga for serious gamers with no pandering weeb shit!
>Suddenly a 2edgy4u loli in Gothic Lolita attire with a giant scythe and mech appears out of nowhere!
>Look up spoilers regarding 3rd and Crossbell
>She used to be a prostitute and got dickings from old men
>Another loli shows up who has FUCKING CAT EARS and is a kuudere who's also a former prostitute.
>Tita the loli in your party hooks up with an adult male and is just there to look cute
>Everything about Cold Steel
/v/ IS ALWAYS WRONG, NEVER LISTEN TO /v/!
>You're a normie if you don't get turned on by pedo shit.
How'z about YOU fuck off and go take a seat by Chris Hansen already! Pedofaggot permavirgins like you are the reason the Japanese game industry is in the shape it is today!
Well I was under the impression from /v/ and various gaming sites that this was a JRPG series like how they used to make em, you know in the same vein as Grandia, Lunar, old Final Fantasy, Suikoden etc.
NOPE! Turns out this is another pile of pandering weeb-shit, another Neptunia just disguised better with "muh lore and dialogue~!"
So what other reason does one need to put in lolis getting molested into their games for no other reason but to please the permavirgin pedo audience?
What artistic merit is there to lolis getting sexually violated?
At least Lunar didn't have fanservice that pandered to weebs, at least its fanservice was all of GROWN WOMEN!
Maybe it's relevant to the story?
>At least Lunar didn't have fanservice that pandered to weebs
What kind of story could even be worth telling if it has to involve the prostitution of lolis (and very suspiciously ONLY lolis and not grown women) lolis that might I remind you, are based on typical weeb/otaku pandering tropes already such as kuudere, edgy, etc.
>That fanservice is weeb fanservice
Nothing weeby about it, are you blind? All the Lunar girls are of age, in fact there's not even a single loli in your party in 1 or 2!
We've been over this before anon.
>anime/shounen tropes /=/ weebshit tropes
There is a big, big, BIG different at anime, manga and games aimed for the shounen/general audience crowd and the weeb/neckbeard crowd. Lunar falls into the former. Again note how there are no lolis or tsunderes to be found and how the fanservice shots are all of your OF AGE female party-members.
You are now aware that, if Estelle and Joshua had just taken the black orbment and went home, the intelligence division never would've known where it was or gotten their hands on it. The seal beneath grancel castle never would've been released, the towers never would have been activated, and none of this would've happened
Why should they have gone chasing after him in the first place once they discovered that he wasn't with the hostages because he had gotten off the linde before it took off? They knew he was safe and had his business under control because of the letter he sent.
You're fucking retarded, you know that little girls get molested in real life all the time, right? It's a serious fucking issue. You're basically saying no characters in a game should have a REAL LIFE ISSUE in their backstory or it's pedo pandering. That's fucking stupid.
You know who also get raped a lot and even more then LITTLE girls? Oh yeah, GROWN ASS WOMEN!
But no, hmm for some suspicious reason Japan chooses instead to focus on the little girl aspect of it instead, yeah I'm sure they have reallll serious intentions of highlighting and addressing serious social issue, especially when the girls fit tropes straight out of a fetish delivery service!
>JUST BECAUSE SHE HAS THE BODY OF A LITTLE GIRL AND LOOKS LIKE ONE DOESN'T MEAN SHE IS ONE OFFICER I SWEAR! SHE'S REALLY A 1000000 YEAR OLD GODDESS!
Literally the oldest loli-trope in the book.
Why are you weeb pedos so sexually frusturated that you can't even tolerate playing a single video game without sexy lolis in it to fap to?
In fact why are you even sexually attracted to LITTLE GIRLS in the first place? What is so appealing about boob-less child with absolutely no sex appeal, what are you secretly gay?
I regret to inform you that I don't play TRAILS GAMES so i have something to fap to, that's fucking stupid. Trails doesn't need that shit, they are strong games that stand well enough on their own for their great writing, stories and music. Just because you're triggered by character design and tragic backstories doesn't mean I'm a pedo
So just because it's not popular doesn't make it weeb? Fuck off
>Doesn't need that shit
>Includes former loli prostitutes one that even wears FUCKING CAT EARS, "just because~!"
Gee sounds like a series that's really confident in its story to stand on its own two feet without dem delicious otaku betabux...
So why would they go back home? They never knew any of ouroboros' plans or if they existed, so why would they go home after all that when they can become senior bracers? That was the primary goal right?
It's like blaming everything on hindsight
Oh no, such triggering character design and backstories
It's such a horrible thing that these characters have actual bad things happen to them in their backstories, how dare falcom trigger you with real world issues.
Maybe the calvard arc will be all sunshine and rainbows and nobody will get triggered by cold, hard reality.
>Wants to make characters with tragic backstories
>Makes the victims of rape and prostitution lolis instead of grown women "JUST BECAUSE~!"
Please try and tell me what artistic merit there was for making the lolis be the ones with this kind of backstory? Nothing would have changed for dramatic intent in the story if it was grown women. There was literally no reason to make it happen specifically to the lolis, none, unless you're specifically trying to pander to the Neptunia audience.
I like how in the first game Joshua was fucking stronger than any other character damage-wise. Basically using gameplay to reinforce his character background of being this nothing-personnel-kid assassin for Ourobros.
First of all, just because you are triggered by child rape doesn't mean it has to be hidden away and ignored. It happens in the real world. There are tons of child prostitutes, so again, you can be triggered by it but that doesn't make it unacceptable as part of the character's backstory.
Now, as for why Renne couldn't have been an adult instead, it's pretty simple. Renne being a traumatised edgy child is necessary for the plot because she is eventually adopted by Estelle and Joshua and given a better life - just like Cassius did for Joshua.
Again, it may trigger you, but child prostitution is a real thing in the world, and this particular prostitute's backstory was necessary for justifying her edginess and is handled very maturely.
Now, fuck off, triggered kiddo.
This thread reminds me of a story.
>Neet friend inherits a shit ton of money after his obese mom passes away, 400k plus a condo.
>Decides to go on sex trip to Thailand to fuck lolis.
>Spends a month fucking teenagers, sucking back nitro balloons, and getting shitfaced for next to nothing.
>Flies into Vancouver for a stop-over before coming home.
>Customs guy rifles through his shit after seeing he went to Pattaya, (aka hooker capital of Orient), find weird shit like cock rings, bondage gear, etc.
>They look through his laptop.
>Discover loli porn.
>Determine it's "child pronography", and destroy his laptop, despite not being charged with a crime.
>He's stuck in a room with a young female customs agent while this is happening, uncomfortable as fuck.
>They print of a receipt for his destroyed laptop and hand it to him.
>He shrugs and says "it was a piece of shit anyways."
Assuming I give Renne's story the benefit of the doubt cause of the whole "adoption" aspect, how then do you explain Tio who had literally the exact same thing happen to her? And no, there was absolutely no thematic reason for her to be child either.
Again I'm not denying child rape doesn't happen, but honestly its really an extremely small minority in the world practiced by the mentally ill, degenerates and backwards 3rd World religioustards. Grown women being raped and trafficked is far, far, FAR more prevalent, not that I'm a SJW or anything, far from it but you would think if they wanted to address an incredibly wide-spread social issue and have it resonate with the audience they would choose the one that's far more prevalent.
Hell even with Renne there were other ways they could do it, why have it be rape, why not something equally traumatic? (Yes, there is plenty) or if they had to go the rape route why not make her a shota instead? Why did it have to be SPECIFICALLY a loli?
>I just started and he's the weakest fucking character by far.
Eh, really? My experience was (in two playthroughs) that Estelle misses more.
Anyway, as for why he's strong: I vaguely recall either him or a later character having the highest speed so he's either 2nd or first there.
His crafts are great damage-wise too. Minor spoiler but he eventually gets delaying crafts (Flicker and Evil Eye) that delays enemy turns and deal physical damage. Both of these are my favorites.
He has very high offensive stats later on. I built him as a complete glass cannon. His black quartz requirement leads to arts like Hell's Gate or White Gehenna that most monsters aren't weak or resistant to.
Anyway, my favorite thing to do is just Flicker with him. That shit almost never misses. Of course I switched over to Evil Eye once I got it. He's got much better use of your CP buffing accessories. I think the only other character that can match him damage wise is Tita in the first game.
Obviously because they wanted to trigger you, now fuck the fuck off, us grown ups who are mentally mature enough to handle difficult issues in works of fiction don't need to deal with the rantings of a triggered fuckboy.
Only went full weebshit from 4.
1 is fine, 2 only has Nanami and 3 is fine.
IV is the only shitty one and even then there's just one loli who becomes a turboslut after growing older.
>No rebuttal to my long, well-thought out one
>Swears at me angrily just telling me to GTFO
Looks like you're the one whose triggered upon revealing the truth that your precious Kiseki is weebshit like all the rest.
Nothing about your posts here have been well thought out. You are literally a triggered mental midget screaming "BUT WHY COULDN'T SHE HAVE BEEN OF AGE!?? :((((" and I'm sick of your crying
>Translation: I am ashamed of my deeply degenerate pedo desires and know I will never ever get laid cause normal grown women do nothing for me, thus I am sexually frusturated and am lashing out cause an anon exposed the truth about me!
Okay, pal. You can go now and leave the grown ups to talk about our game.
>Being triggered this hard
I'm just going to post Towa.
Are we all getting baited or is this nigga this stupid?
I wonder what would happen if a Western game dared to feature little girls that had rape backstories?
Would OP still be triggered this hard or would it still get a free-pass on account of not being "weebshit."
Bump for best girl lewd Estelle!
Hey man, I don't tell you how to live your life.
I just want to enjoy my Towa.
Looks like OP got BTFO and abandoned ship.
All is right in the world again.
>Release the first, second and sixth games in the series in that order
Are XSEED retarded?
Seeing the way it turned out, I don't actually think they were wrong in doing so.
As far as we know, SC bombed pretty badly. But the timing of releasing CS is cashing in hard on people's Persona boners and is giving the series another shot at staying alive internationally. From a marketing standpoint, this was a really good time to release this game.
>Zero and Ao really will be NEVER EVER
It really won't. If I had started learning to read Japanese when Trails 1 first came out I could have played SC before it came out in English.
I'm not going to buy their out of order releases in the vain hope that I might get a translation. I'm learning Japanese instead.
I hope your plan works out though, it just doesn't seem reliable enough to me based on what I've seen up until now.
>Trying to memorize all those thousands of complicated-drawn Kanji that can have multiple meanings as an adult where its already hard to learn a new language
You'll have better luck just hoping for a localization, its literally IMPOSSIBLE!
It's easier to learn as an adult than as I kid, I know English and I know how to use dictionaries so I have all the tools I need to learn.
I love the "You can't learn Japanese" meme though.
It's actually pretty easy.
Yeah except the kanji part.
Which is arguably the most important part of the language you'll have to learn if you want to play a text-heavy series like Trails.
And no research shows that it gets harder and harder to learn a new language every year that you age.
>It's easier to learn as an adult than as a kid
Not the person you're arguing with, but I just wanted to say that is scientifically proven to be objectively wrong because of the differences in the ways the mind and learning work as a kid vs an adult, especially in regards to language. Learning multiple languages is almost always easier for a kid than an adult.
But good for you though. Keep it up.
Link to that research? I'm curious about it.
And saying kanji is hard would be like saying words are hard.
They are hard until you learn them, then they aren't hard.
Hell, kanji makes things easier after a while since if you know half a word it makes guessing the second half that much simpler.
Take it from me, I started taking Japanese classes in high school since I was 17 and continued on to college, I am now 23.
I was never able to get any farther then Japanese 2, why?
Everything was pretty easy for me until we had to start seriously memorizing more then 50 Kanji, that was when I started failing.
Chink runes are a bitchass to learn, there's a reason the Chinese language is considered the hardest language in the world to learn.
>Kanji is hard is like saying words are hard!
Huh? That analogy literally makes no sense, kanji doesn't have anything to do with memorizing new vocab words, its literally the Chinese/Jap version of "spelling"
And yes its incredibly hard to learn because they're intricately and complicatedly drawn with no real easy english equivalent look-ups if you can't recognize how they're drawn, they're double the pain if you're not a visual learner too.
I don't even consider my reading proficient but holy shit that is not a lot of kanji.
Numbers 1 to 10, basic colors, days of the week, house pets and breakfast and you're pretty much at 50 right there.
Exact same thing for me.
The funny part is that I can actually understand spoken Japanese and read well enough by just plugging a kanji into a dictionary and working out the sounds and sentence structure in my head until it matches a phrase that I'm familiar with, but I can't even remember Kanji I was tested on back when I was actually studying it.
That shit broke me.
>if you can't recognize how they're drawn, they're double the pain
It doesn't take long to learn how they're drawn and learning that it pretty important.
Tio wasn't a prostitute what the fuck?
You EOPs shouldn't talk about shit you have no idea about.
Only Renne was in Paradise that is the particular place that prostituted kids
Tio was in another place and while she did went through experimentation it's directly stated she never went through what Renne did.
And there is a very clear plot related reason why they were all kids
I assumed he's working for XSEED.
The only reason we got Sen before Crossbell is that they want to get the PS3 games out here before the PS3 dies here. The PC isn't going anywhere so those games can wait.
Same, spoken Japanese and everything about the language besides Kanji is easy as fuck, its honestly making me seriously consider just importing the Zero/Ao Evo versions since I'll most likely get through them fine.
Then I remember only the main quest is voiced so I'll only literally be able to play half the game since Kiseki games put so much emphasis on NPC villagers and sidequests as part of their "meat."
Theoretically they could possibly localize the Evo versions (which would honestly be the best option) if we could get another #JRPGVita campaign going with Shahid and demand the Crossbell duology (it worked for Hearts R)
The one real problem with the Evo versions being tied to Chara-Ani is the fact that XSEED can't afford to get the rights to their voices and they can't afford to dub the EVO games fully on their own either. For some reason they're stubborn though and have this bullshit policy that if they have to release a game with cut content (i.e. English Evo versions therefore wouldn't be able to have voices at all due to licensing costs) they just won't release it at all.
I think a situation like this calls for another #JRPGVita campaign and start a petition begging XSEED to localize the Evo versions with or without the voices and saying we don't care even if we get less content from the Japanese releases, we just want the games!
Supposedly Its being fan-translated.
As of around Christmas they were at 60% with Zero, and expect to have it finished by next December.
If they decide to do Ao it'll finished in 2018 at the earliest.
>For some reason they're stubborn though and have this bullshit policy that if they have to release a game with cut content (i.e. English Evo versions therefore wouldn't be able to have voices at all due to licensing costs) they just won't release it at all.
It's more like people are already autistic enough to boycott games for not having dual audio, so announcing a game that is an enhanced port whose main draw was a feature you had to cut would devastate their sales
A few western games do that and this >>323155357 is usually the exact response even though it's almost always just thrown in purely for shock value rather than having actual reasons for it in the plot and it being just a small part of a complex character's backstory like it is in Kiseki
Considering the lack of popularity for the series, I doubt it. Nobody really cares about Trails in the west compared to the Tales series which has legions of fans who will buy every Tales game (and Tales is also more accessible on top of that due to being an ARPG).
From Xseed's perspective, spending years to localize games that will sell poorly is less financially devastating than not localizing them
Honestly i hate Renne and think she's by far the worst character in SC.
Disgusting little special snowflake.
At least you can slap her shit a few times.
I doubt you would hate her after 3rd and Zero.
Some of the absolute best scenes in four of the games are about Renne, including some in SC. If you didn't feel anything after her fight in the Axis Pillar then I think you might just hate cute things.
The problem with Renne is she has way too much going for her compared to anyone in the game.
Intelligent, nihilistic with a wicked sense of humor, capable of controlling robots and being a keikaku doori master, with a weapon that prompts 1hko status.
Tita is a good character because she's just a lonely little girl without friends who started to care about equally lone guy who lost his sister in childhood. Estelle has a radiant personality but pretty weak combat-wise and too rash to act. Joshua is just a broken mind-controlled puppet. And suddenly this special snowflake appears.
>The problem with Renne is she has way too much going for her compared to anyone in the game.
Except being the source of numerous headaches throughout the entirety of chapter 3, and you know, threatening to murder the protagonist.
>capable of controlling robots and being a keikaku doori master, with a weapon that prompts 1hko status.
>a boss character is strong
>Tita is a good character because she's just a lonely little girl without friends who started to care about equally lone guy who lost his sister in childhood. Estelle has a radiant personality but pretty weak combat-wise and too rash to act. Joshua is just a broken mind-controlled puppet. And suddenly this special snowflake appears.
Renne is more broken than Joshua, she was just strong enough mentally to survive it, unlike Joshua (which is exactly what Joshua says about her). Her mental problems run about as deep as his do and she is in no way perfect. Her master plan only worked because nobody suspected the 11-year-old to be a member of Ouroboros, it wasn't that brilliant of a plan and if she wasn't a child the cast would have seen right through her. She might be incredibly strong in combat
due to experimental Gnosis fuckery on top of training from Joshua and presumably Loewe, but she's almost as much a puppet as Joshua, in more ways than one. She's just fooled herself into believing she isn't.
>Rydia acts like a normal little girl and is never sexually harassed
Yeah, I bet when those 2 adult males in their 20s took that unconscious 8 year old girl to an out of town hotel after they killed her mom nothing bad happened.
OP didn't actually play the game or doesn't like to read.
Seriously getting tired of people using the words stereotype and cliche in the wrong context.
Being a cliche character is not the equivalent being a badly written character.
The character is literally written in such a way that she is emotionally scarred from the experience. As such Estelle does her best to break her out of that.
You think this is pedo pandering even though there isn't a shred of sex scene involved in it, its literally JUST a backstory to make the player feel bad for her and wanting to do something about it.
>Renne's dubbed voice
Actually it's not nearly as bad as I had expected it to be.
She was experimented with and pretty much feed with gnosis shit, Renne being strong is actually one of the most explained thing in the franchise.
She possesses the ability to master everything almost instantly, in battle she is at the level of Walter in 1 on 1
Not all men are attracted to little girls, most are normal that can't get hard at anything that doesn't have boobs, stop seeing everything through your degenerate weeb lenses.
It's a shame that people who play Cold Steel without also playing FC/SC will never be able to truly appreciate Olivert's greatness.
>Hurr durr this game is shit! You lied to me!
>Has played through at least two entries of the series, which can amount to around 80 hours of playtime
So you just wanted a Trails thread?
Cliches aren't "pandering" either.
Cliches are more like a tool to use when creating a character and it deals with all the aspects of a character that donmt deal with that pandering shit.
Thats more from a design perspective.
Its more like...okay we got 9 characters lets make them well-balanced by having many different personalities and motivations and shit.
>The one real problem with the Evo versions being tied to Chara-Ani is the fact that XSEED can't get the rights full stop according to Falcom
Fixed that for you. There is no hope for Evo versions, and the Vita is dead in the West anyway.
>Vita came out 4 years ago
And all i played on it were the Kiseki Evo games.
Garghav Trilogy Evolution when?
Vita actually came out 2010-2011 I think and it had a massive drought of games during those times. In fact, 2013 was a start of a decent amount of localization so its better off now than it was years before
Man, that didn't even sell well, its really TiTS (and Ark of Napishtim) that pushed Falcom during their trying times, I doubt they'll make a Gagharv anything soon. At this point they should drop the Eiyuu Densetsu name all together and just make it "Kiseki"
>not liking best girl of Sen
I bet you like Towa or Fie too you commoner.
That doesn't answer my question... All it says is that the politicians that were clients were all secretly degenerate pedo weebs that were meant to act as self-insert material for the audience.
After all there's a reason why we never see Renne's "customers" in the 3rd.
First you can see one of the client in Zero, it's a big plot point.
And there is an actually explained reason why kids were kidnapped and why Renne was prostituted.
Played Zero and Ao
Okay so I'm halfway through Chapter 2 in SC and I won't lie I'm finding it kinda
When does it really start picking up? These quests kinda suck too.
>There's plenty of people in /v/ who likes neither. Infact, its probably the majority from what ive seen.
you do realize what website you are on right? Or are you genuinely autistic enough to not notice the chan in the fuck name?
That happened at the end of chapter 1 desu was the cool part
Of course I did. Though I found the first parts of FC boring too so there's that. SC had a way better prologue but then I found chapter 1 boring. I guess I just want the cool stuff to start cause revisiting all these towns and doing the quests again isn't exactly great.
>liked Kevin in SC
>watching some videos of 3rd
>suddenly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1BZJEMjpnc
If he's number 5, who the fuck is number 1 of all Dominion members and how strong he is?