What games let me operate? Does anything reasonably modern stack

Rainbow Six Siege is probably the best game for operatan.

Doorkickers, if you're okay with top down perspective.

>>323133532
So it's at least palatable?

I've been hesitant to take a chance on it since I haven't seen any positive opinions to balance out the problems and buggy webms posted here.

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>>323133469
spacestation 13

you literally need to operate every during every second you're alive or else you die

>>323133958
generally accepted as being the best tactical milsim out on this boards, lots of RSS threads on /v/ agree that its good despite some flaws

>>323133958
The foundation is solid, it just needs some patches to fix the shitty net code.

>>323133532

hahahaha

Rogue Spear with classic map mod
There's no point in going back to the original one if you don't have XP

>>323133532
Pfthahahahahhahahahaahah

>>323133958
Siege is NOT tactical at all. It is literally a free for all with no communication. Avoid it like cancer ridden AIDS anon.

>>323133532
Is this a bad joke?

If Siege is now what qualifies a tactical shooter, so does CoD/CS and BF.

And thats just in regards to its nonexistant gameplay, between the hackers and shitty netcode the game is near unplayable at a tactical level anyway even if the game did have tactical features, which again, it doesnt.

>>323134698
>>323135915
>>323136016
Retards

>>323136138
Nice counterpoint, thanks for proving us right.

>>323136138
Play a R6 game that isn't Siege.

>>323136242
Oh right you saying "hahahaha" was a great point

>>323136259
Exactly, play Vegas.

>>323136314
I literally thought you were kidding at first, but I see you are actually serious.

Thats just sad anon, for your sake I hope you are either so underage you have never played a real tactical shooter or a marketer.

>>323136362
モゲ子 a shit.

>>323136517
You're a shit.

>>323136596
no u

>>323136449
Nice retort

>>323136673
Its not a retort, its an observation. The only one who has tried to move the goalposts with retorts is you.

>>323133782
Second this -- if you like intricate tactial planning, its very fun.

>>323133782
>>323136832
Literally water-downed Swat in EVERY SINGLE WAY.

>>323136740
Nice rebuttal kiddo

>>323136893
>Literally mentioning the most water-downed "tactical" shooter

literally

>>323136939
See >>323136740

>>323137074
Shitposting won't help you sell your shit game.

>>323137151
Nice tinfoil, I'm not even that guy

inb4 retards claim that the old RB6s were tactical
inb4 in response I post that webm of running and gunning hordes of tangos in RS

>>323137241
Go on
>auto aim - on

>>323137241
I dont know where this 'tactical RS' bullshit came from

All the games are pretty non tactical. In my mind tactical games are ones like Arma/PR/Squad/SWAT4, where you have massive autism levels of cooperation and coordination.

>>323137325
Honestly, even PvP wasn't tactical. It's a lot faster than Siege and the Vegas games and revolves around crouch sprinting and grenade spam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9OI1O48Kys

>>323137095
Nice """"""observation""""""" kiddo

>>323137241

>using auto-aim

c'mon, son.

>>323137521
Yeah I can see you dont intend to be rational about this.

Whatever, be retarded. No one cares.

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>>323137429
>where you have massive autism levels of cooperation and coordination
Oh, you mean like this?

>>323137782
>I can't read

>>323137782
is that sum mufuggin rainbow six

>>323137692
Sorry that I don't take children seriously

>>323137589
It's not as much auto-aim as much as the AI being dogshit in the old games with terribly slow reaction times, especially when turning, even on the hardest difficulty. THis was easily exploitable whether or not you used auto-aim.

I think Raven Shield was a lot better, but I'd have to boot it up again.

>>323137860

no one can follow your autism anymore

>>323137782
There was no tactical map in multiplayer though, falseflagger.

I don't see what's the deal with SWAT4. I recently reinstalled it and noticed the swat AI is utterly retarded. Tell them team to breach-bang in any room with more than one enemy (or one enemy that doesn't surrender immediately) and you are almost surely going to get one of your guys incapacitated.
I wish they made a new SWAT game.

Anyways, a list of games off the top of my head:
Doorkickers
High Caliber 7.62
Breach and Clear (Not that good, ignore Deadline because it went the zombie route)
Man of Prey
Jagged Alliance games (JA2 with 1.13mod is considered the best)
Silent Storm games for WW2 operating I guess.
SWAT4 + expansion
Arma
Squad

I'm sure leaving a lot of games but this is a good list of operating/tactical games.

>>323138078
>There was no tactical map in multiplayer though
no shit

>>323138296
So why give Siege shit for not being tactical without it?

>>323138326
I didn't even mentioned Siege

I think OP wants the planning and decision making otherwise literally any team based shooter would suffice

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>>323138210
Swat4 has garbage AI to the point that you should be doing everything yourself as point man and leave your guys as fire support in the back. It's basically the only way to get over 90 on each level.

Also, it was buggy as fuck and half the time your non-lethal weapons won't work.

>>323138415
muh bad

>>323138210
>Man of Prey
Would play more of that, but by the third mission where you are defending your apartment from civilians, the game lags to shit due to all of the npcs.
>High Caliber 7.62
That any good?

>>323138994
>That any good?
That up to you to decide I guess. I personally like it and it gets mentioned a lot in threads like this one. Play it with a mod called Blue Sun.
Feel free to check some youtube videos, it's very similar to Man of Prey.

>>323139387
Speaking of man of prey, you ever get the lag I was talking about. My beast rig just shits itself during that mission. And only during shooting.

>>323136016
>nearly unplayable

How does it feel like to be born in 2002, underaged piece of shit ?

Is this Man of Prey? or is it related?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/289600/

>>323139603
That is it. Prepare your anus.

>>323139478
It's been quite some time since I played Man of Prey but I don't remember the game fucking up that badly at any given time.

>>323139603
That's Man of Prey, yes.

>>323135915
All tactical shooters become free for all's if you don't communicate. Teams that communicate in siege shit all over those that dont

>>323139587
We had 60tick servers in 2002 for starters, kid.

>>323139875
Glad to know CoD is now a tactical shooter if you have microphones.

>>323139875
This
If you get a good team with mic's in R6:S It can be very tactical. Unfortunately most people aren't used to playing well together and rarely do people communicate.

>>323140001
Clearly you haven't played SnD on HC much.

Seriously.

>>323138802
>that guy that flies towards him

>>323133469
Project Reality, Insurgency PvP, Squad

>>323140001
He didn't call cod a tactical shooter dingus l2read

>>323134160
No you dont. And being a power gamer will get you banned

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>SWAT4 was 11 years ago

>>323140434
You entirely missed his point.

>>323138802
>All that teabagging after the quad kill
Ah, the 90s.

>>323140434
>>323140304
By that shitty logic, CoD/BF and every single game with microphones is a tactical shooter now

Wonderful logic, just wonderful

>>323136367
no vegas is fucking awful.

just play swat 4 or r6 raven shield

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Hideous Destructor

>>323140001
The fundamental difference is level design and game systems. CoD/BF even on HC still don't have the same engagement time as R6S and their weapons, physics and map design aren't built from the ground up for methodical, close quarters play and teamwork.

It's like saying R6S the same as CoD because there's a sprint feature; sure you could bust into a sprint and try to knife a dude in R6S, but the amount of noise it makes gives you away so fast and one stray bullet from ANY gun in the game to the head will kill you, so you've basically just alerted the entire enemy force to relentlessly assfuck you on the spot.

So yes, while you can do much better in CoD/BF being in constant communication with your team, it carries you less distance then R6S does. Siege is all about intel to the point where it pretty much becomes the gameplay. It isn't really a FPS as it is a practice in rapid intel acquisition and creative thinking, which makes it the best modern operating game.