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>3ds piracy becomes widespread just as DQ7, 8 and SMT IV Final are all about to come out
>they'll all flop and we won't get DQ 11 or any of the DQ spinoffs
>SMT IV final probably won't even be localized
It hurts /v/
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Pretty much. It killed the PSP too.
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>implying that the dq8 port was going to be any good
>jessica's censorship
>its on the 3ds
also look at shin megami tensei x fire emblem that looks like complete trash too
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>>323131913
>nearly exact same game with extra content
>downgraded graphics and less tits
>IT'S SHIT! UNPLAYABLE!
Go outside manchild.
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I'm not even bothering with the DQ8 port.
>we won't get DQ spin-offs
I will, and that's all that matters
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>>323131529
>SMT IV final probably won't even be localized
This worries me. Not for any reason related specifically to the boon in piracy, but mainly because we haven't heard anything about a localization yet and it feels like we should have at this point.
Isn't FINAL out in Feb in Japan or something?
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>>323132216
Yep next month final releases in Japan.
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>>323131529

>3ds piracy becomes widespread just as DQ7, 8 and SMT IV Final are all about to come out
We had this thread yesterday. 3DS piracy is 100x less than the original DS. Its not going to affect the sales as much as you think. Especially since DQ games already sold better than your average on the original DS (with rampant piracy).
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>>323131913
>its censorship becuz its titties guiz!

You are worse than childhood leukemia. Please go die.
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>>323132402
there were more DS owners too
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>>323132341
>SMT IV JP release
>May 23, 2013
>Announcement for Localization
>April 2, 2013

Fuck, hopefully we'll hear something about FINALs localisation this month otherwise it's really not looking good.
It's the only upcoming 3DS release I'm really looking forward to.
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>>323131529
Anyone who already cares about DQ is going to buy these anyway. And newcomers are so negligable here that it wont even matter if they pirate.

Plus every nintendrone i know irl is literally a drone, they wont pirate anything.
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>>323132056
This. Less fap content sure, but you can always have the original and you can always fap to other shit. As long as they don't fuck with my gameplay hours, who gives a shit? If it were up to me no fap worthy shit would be in games. Detracts from gameplay and you can get better shit online specifically made for you to jizz.

25 year old here, was #2 2D porn guy in my high school 8 years ago and got caught watching 2D porn every year of middle school. Didn't fap to real porn until I was already a man. Leave the porn to the real porn makers, and leave the games to the real game makers.
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>>323131913
>muh tits on anime girls
go on rule 34 you fucking faggot.
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>>323132056
>>323132490
>>323132943
Bad posts.
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>>323133002
Kill yourself faggot.
Why do graphicswhores exist in DQ threads of all places?
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>>323131637
Piracy was so bad for the PSP, it killed the Vita by proxy because no publisher wanted to release games for it.

>>323131913
Thieves making their rational for not supporting games

Add censorship to the Wheel of Excuse© for stealing games.
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>>323133173

Dragon Quest VIII is the only DQ game which tried to push the boundaries with graphics. And therefore was the only game to catch their attention. The game having a graphical downgrade makes them mad.

Its kind of like you have those few guys who obsess over Suikoden V in the rare Suikoden thread.
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>>323133337
>Its kind of like you have those few guys who obsess over Suikoden V in the rare Suikoden thread.
But that was pretty average..
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>>323133445

I agree. But there's a few people who defend it to the death. One guy who even claimed it was better than Suikoden II. And the only way I can reason this is the guy cares more about graphics than gameplay/story.
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>>323131529
I'm tempted to buy it but I've never played a DQ game before. Whats so good about them?
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>>323134529

Depends on which game you play. What's good about Dragon Quest VIII is:

-Free roaming exploration
-Huge overworld to explore
-Dozens of hours worth of side quests and other optional content
-Solid skill system with set characters
-Some of the most detailed towns in a RPG
-Good item crafting system
-Excellent character driven story
-Godly music
-Best enemy designs in RPGs
-One of the best examples of cel shaded graphics (which is why some people are mad about the 3DS version)
-Puff Puff
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thats what you get for making it arbitrarily nintendo exclusive. PC and vita on the other hand...
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VII will definitely do well, who knows on VIII, Final will be localized and'll do well.

Shit, why do people think Final won't be localized? Atlus localized DeSu2 fine at the tail end of the DS life cycle. And 2013 was an odd year for Atlus, SMTIV and EOU both came out like two months after Japan, while EO2U took more than half a year after JP release to be announced.
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Why wouldn't SMT IV Final be localized? SMT IV Sold really well in the states.
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>>323131529
.
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>>323135382
I think people were used to how fast SMT4 came over here least in terms of localization time.
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Quit making this fucking thread.
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>>323135382
>Shit, why do people think Final won't be localized?
Did you forget about P2 Eternal Punishment?
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>>323135875
Every day until you like it
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>>323131913
A game could be an absolute gem that every person would love. From the plebiest normies to the deepest wizards. But holy fuck if tit size on a female character was reduced you'd all hate it for just that reason and make other shit up to justify said hate.

Actually, you wouldn't. /v/ is just that stupid and would seriously say tit size makes or breaks a game.
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>>323131529
You dragon quest fags are getting annoying
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Nowhere near as many people are downgrading their 3DS as you think, and Nintendo is patching it next week.

Most 3DS owners are never gonna know about this before blissfully updating to 10.4
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>>323135918
To my understanding, it wasn't localized due to issues with some of the material in the new content requiring licensing in the US or something.

It also wasn't a whole new fucking game.
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>3DS piracy
>widespread
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>>323131529
>games flopping because of piracy
the biggest fucking meme
rampant DS piracy didn't stop the billion games developed for that piece of shit

>>323131637
>>323133279
disinfo of the highest caliber
complete morons
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>>323136209
It didn't get localized because the PSP was long since dead in the west, same as the 3ds.
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>>323136356
>same as the 3ds.
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>>323136356
>3DS
>Dead
Don't you mean the Vita?
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>>323136508
You make a good point. The PSP sold way more than the 3ds did in the west.
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>>323136356
>3DS is dead
Maybe if you're delusional or just stupid.
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>>323136356
>he literally tells you why it wasn't localized
>NUH UH IT WAS BECAUSE OF PIRACY
christ you're delusional
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>>323136530
The Vita died in the west 2 years ago. The 3ds died after MH4.
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>>323133961
>somebody liked a game i didnt like
>how is this possible

oy vey anon...
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I'm buying both if that helps.
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>>323131529
I'd probably buy it.
I loved DQIX but I never played any other. Can you still get custom items and equipment in the other DQ games?
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>>323136576
3DS games also continue to sell unlike the PSP.
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>>323136625
I didn't mention piracy at all. Are you completely retarded?
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>>323136717
They won't anymore thanks to piracy.
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>>323131529
3DS piracy won't get anywhere near as bad as it did on the PSP. Unless they figure out how to more easily/consistently install CFW and manage to continue making it possible after subsequent firmware updates, only a small percentage of 3DSes will be capable of piracy
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>>323136803
>They won't anymore thanks to piracy.
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>>323136342
>disinfo of the highest caliber

Alright then, tell use your piece on why the PSP failed, if not for Piracy.
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>>323137312
>nogaems
> it wasn't the ds
wow that was easy
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>>323136205
>Nowhere near as many people are downgrading their 3DS as you think, and Nintendo is patching it next week.

Pretty much that, and not to mention that people have to follow a damn flowchart just to make it work. It's like making a Pandora Battery all over again, a normal person doesn't want to deal with that, they'd rather just download something and execute it (a la PSP) or buy a card that just werks (a la DS) than do this.

3DS piracy won't become mainstream until it becomes so easy to hack you can do it in less than 5 minutes.
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Oh boo fucking hoo. If it had been released here the same time as in Japan, none of this would happen.
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>>323131913

I've played it. It's pretty damn fun.
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>>323137461
>any sony console nogaems meme

Shit is stupid. Bet you also think the PS2 also had no games too
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>>323137484
You thieves make any excuse you can to steal games
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>>323137585
PS2 barely had any games too.
It just had multiplats/japanesetrash/shovelware
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>>323137585
>this nigger is trying to compare the psp to the fucking ps2
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>>323137682
And you devs make any excuse to delay localization or even not do it at all.
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>>323135041
>>323135454
>>323135716
>>323135920
Post more Jessica.
>>323136205
Which game is this from?
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>>323138032
Imagine
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DQ7 3DS is nearly 3 years old. Square Enix had their chance to beat piracy to the punch and they dragged their feet
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>>323131529
>this whole post
nobody can be this retarded, right? none of that shit is going to happen you paranoid fuck.
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>>323138192
You can't blame new Square for Wada's old retarded decisions.
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>>323138306

It's just copypasta. Just someone trying to stir up some shit.
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If the 3DS is dead what does that make everything else except the PS4
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>>323131529
>>323131637
I wonder why PC gaming isn't killed yet then.
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>>323138573
PC gaming has been dead for a long time now
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>>323131637
PSP managed to stay relevant because of piracy.

Piracy on the DS was easy as hell too, yet games and hardware sold by the truckload.

Maybe the PSP and its games did poorly because the games were of poor quality.
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>>323138709
DAE le sony sucks right guys?
Stop trying to fit in.
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>>323138573
Sales, mobas and piracy is why PC gaymen is alive
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>>323138573
it was never alive
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>>323138759
Whatever helps you feel better, anon.
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>>323138874
Whatever helps you get those upboats redditor
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>>323138874
>>323138928
Just kiss already, faggots
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>>323138759
>getting this fucking mad because somebody doesn't like sony
fucking lmao, get a fucking grip kiddo
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>>323131529
>just becomes widespread
nigga plz, just because you updated and fucked up twice on the two previous hacks doesn't mean it's only happening now
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So are the DQ games coming or not?
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>>323139879

VII and VIII 3DS are.
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>>323140049
Good.
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>>323131529
here in Japan we dont have to worry about that, sorry Amerianons but yall brought this upon yourselves desu
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>>323140880

>SquareEnix ignores a series that sells well in the west
>Americans bought it upon themselves
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>>323141034
how well did DQ4, V, VI sell on ds? shit thats how much. ix did well but thats not enough to get them to sell it over there, over here everyone and their mom plays DQ on launch day
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Learn to use english translations anons
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>>323141204

Dragon Quest IV and V sold out of all the copies SquareEnix printed. So well they started to sell for $80-$100 on ebay.

>ix did well but thats not enough to get them to sell it over there
Dragon Quest IX sold 600,000 copies in America and 650,000 copies in Europe. That's better than any other RPG on the DS besides a Pokemon or Final Fantasy game.

If a series like SMT or Tales keeps getting localized by selling 200k copies, there's no excuse for SquareEnix when Dragon Quest games sell far more.

You're an idiot.
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I can finally play Rocket Slime 3: ship edition

it's pretty fun and the nip dialogue is simple enough to understand without needing to look up many words
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>>323141469
Oh you mean the ones that get cease and desist orders by square?
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>>323141673

Because they're retarded.

>>323141469

Or just learn Japanese.
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Are the two already released Monsters games ever going to be localized, or are they a lost cause? I'd think Joker 3 would have the best chance, but Joker 2 kinda flopped, right?
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>>323141586
yeah and that is nothing to the 4.1 million it sold here in japan
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>SMT IV final probably won't even be localized

I'll just play the translation then nigga
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>>323141673
you will find it online if you look hard enough, it works great with hans from the homebrew launcher
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Wait what? We can downgrade 3DS now? Do we still need Gateway to pirate though?
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>>323141991
Yeah it'll be finished right around the time that IF... translation is released
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>>323141673
here is a screenshot i took playing awhile ago
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>>323141956

You can't really compare it to Japan.
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ayo can someone help me a sec?

I'm trying to inject hs.app which is the renamed FBI file but it isn't showing up in rxtools or in the decrypter 9

how am i supposed to inject it?
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>>323142176
well thats what im saying, over here it sells really well compared to our population, combine the population of north america and europe and they sell 1 million copies? thats not enough to entice them to keep selling over there
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>>323142143
>Implying droves of people don't want to play SMTIV Final
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>>323142284

>thats not enough to entice them to keep selling over there

You wouldn't really know unless you're Square-Enix. I don't know a whole lot about sales numbers and profit, (I'm not the guy you've been talking to) but it sounds like a million, even several hundred thousand, isn't a bad deal overall. Not that I care, I can read Japanese, I'm just sayin'.
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>>323131529
dq8 on ps2 was fucking amazing.
If you have a 3ds and like jRPGs at all, get on this shit.
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>>323142241
ayo so anybody know why I cant inject?
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>>323142891
nvm got it niggas
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>3DS comes out
>no localizations
>piracy comes out
>no localizations still
>FUCKING PIRACY KILLED MUH THREEDEEASS
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>>323142550
nah the 3ds version has a censored swimsuit which was also censored the in japanese version. i can't support having the same game as japan and rather the series die for eternity in the west
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>>323142284
Square Enix is full of retards that can't even be satisfied by million+ sales.
SE is obviously the problem here.
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>>323142964
actually no i dont got it I injected the hs app and when I clicked on it it wasnt FBI
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>>323143615
did you put the tmd file on the root of your sd?
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>>323141673
>Oh you mean the ones that get cease and desist orders by square?

"HEY GUYS WE'RE MAKING A FAN-TRANSLATION FOR THIS GAME THAT LOTS OF PEOPLE WANT TO PLAY BUT AREN'T PLANNED FOR A U.S. RELEASE. LET'S NOT DO SOMETHING SENSIBLE LIKE KEEP THIS INFORMATION QUIET UNTIL THERE'S A PATCH RELEASE, WE NEED TO ALERT THE ENTIRE INTERNET AND SQUARE ENIX THAT WE'RE DOING THIS."

"LOL GUYS WE GOT A C&D LETTER, WHO COULD HAVE POSSIBLY SEEN THAT COMING?"

It's the fan-translators' own fault.
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>>323131529
Piracy does not hurt sales
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>>323145018

You don't even have to keep it quiet, just don't talk about it with identities that can be lead back to you. It's not hard at all.
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>>323144034
fbi tmd?
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>TFW iv downgraded 113 3DS's in LA
>Charged $50 and $10 per rom
>Selling MicroSD chips for 3x the price I get em from China

Feels Good man

:V
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As much as I hate piracy it the company's fault for not securing the hardware enough. People are getting smarter and they need to stay atop of the game.
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Dude, have you actually tried to to downgrade and pirate on the 3DS?

If normies don't quit by the time sysupdate fucks up for a 10th straight time, they will once they have to do the emunand and sysnand.

It's not as easy as it was with the DS where all you needed was a flashcart, a microSD and an IQ over 75.
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>>323145264
Oh jesus christ, you should have stayed dead.
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>>323145457

So you pay someone to do it for them

Shit parents would rather pay me $100 to put 7 roms for their kids that would have cost $280 at retail price

No sane parent wants to pay $40 for shit their kids will barely play

:V
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I was going to go hard into 3DS homebrew a day ago while reading through the guides but then I realized

The 3DS doesn't even have that many games I'm interested in.

I bought Kid Icarus Uprising and it controls like shit so I'm waiting to play it on Citra with a real controller, bought Pokemon Alpha Sapphire and haven't touched it, bought Mario Kart 7 only to find it was a fucking dirge and then Smash which ended up being fine if not a bit underwhelming. So one whole game so far along with some roms I bought of old nes games on the e-shop.

What else is there even? I don't care about monster hunter, I'll wait to play Ocarina&Majora remakes on Citra, don't really care about 3D Land... the ONLY thing I'm actually looking forward to on 3DS is Dragon Quest 7 & 8 at this point so I'll just buy those when they come out.

Though if they somehow end up coming out/being better on mobile like 4, 5 and 6 then maybe I'll just throw my 3DS in the dumpster.
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>>323137476
Not to mention the fact that everyone seems to be forgetting that this is atleast the third time a major 3ds hack has been made public.
The first time was gateway
The second was emunand on 4.5 (and the 9.2 downgrade to 4.5)
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>>323145669
KIU would control like shit with a controller you idiot.

Also, if you don't like your 3DS, just sell it.
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>>323145120
You're delusional
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>>323145741

Gateway was too much for people used to dirt cheap flashcarts

The 9.2 exploit came out when most normal folks had updated their shit to 10.X for regular use

:V

This exploit is free meaning modders are more likely to use it since it doesn't cost them shit and because it works on all current models

This exploit has probably gotten more pirated 3DS games than the previous two by a large margin

:V
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>>323135607
Speak for yourself.
In Europe it took fucking ages to come out, and it was digital only.
This is why Im pirating. Why should I wait till February to play Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon for instance when the US has had it out for ages? (Fun fact I used to buy US DS carts when importing was viable here in the UK because I hate waiting for games I actually want to play and it supported independent retailers)
It puts me off buying it because it takes so damn long. I usually then just keep waiting till its on sale and grab it.
If they want my money then they need to keep the finger on the pulse and make worldwide launches.

I'm still going to buy DQ games. I don't want DQ to die. But I'm also pissed at SquareEnix for not even making DQM remakes digital only. If they had done that and made it like £15 I would have bought them for sure regardless of release date.
So I'm going to pirate them as well. If only for the convenience of having them on my SD card. (It's so messed up in the UK that retail is a lot cheaper than digital, especially where Nintendo is concerned)

And also, don't anyone even bother to judge me for pirating. I own around 30 fucking 3DS carts. I'm running out of room in my case.
I buy more games that the average person does. In fact I probably buy 3 or 4 times more. I'm sick of hauling my carts around. Especially when I'm going on holiday.
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>>323145768
Fuck it then. I know I'm being a stubborn bitch about controls because I do see a good game in there somewhere but if I can't play the game in a normal sitting position on a HANDHELD without a BUNDLED STAND I'm not bothering.
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>>323145925

Man, I got lucky with the 3DS, but not the Wii U. When the 9.2 exploit came out I was still on 7.X. My Wii U I unfortunately updated two weeks before the first exploits came out for it.
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>>323145669
All I care about is EO and DQ. Everything else is shit.
Good thing I got this thing cheap.
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>>323145959
I don't think anyone would think badly of a Euro pirating, making your audience wait so fucking long for games is criminal.
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Remember when piracy on the DS killed Dragon Quest specifically localizations.
It had nothing to retarded corporate politics.
It was 100% the fault of piracy.
Square is a perfect company that makes all the right decisions.
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>>323145925
My point was that the gateway coming out jump started the whole scene. And I'm talking about the 4.5 exploit, which is different from downgrading from 9.2 to 4.5. The exploit already existed for 4.5 that allowed emunand and then tools came out that allowed people to downgrade to 4.5 and then later emunand past 4.5 was supported. This whole thing comes and goes in cycles. My shit has been exploited and I've been running backups for at least a year now I believe.
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What is Nintendo actually patching in a week? Will downgrading from 9.9-10.3 be impossible or is it just one of multiple exploits they're blocking?
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>>323131529
the nds was probably among the easiest console to pirate and yet we got a humongous number of awesome games.

If nintendo will fail will be because they have a current shitty library and crazy high prices.
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>>323146295
If could easily be fixed if they made the UK its own region and just released the US version there.
No-one is going to care about minor spelling differences. I see a lot of US DS carts lurking in CEX. Especially the RPGs.
English speakers outside of UK would also import them for cheap, because hey, funnily enough a lot of Germans for example actually import from us and don't like their own German version of things because they get censored to hell and are retardedly expensive.
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>>323146449
they are blocking the easiest entry point.
there are others but they are even more shitty than the browserhax
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>>323146174
Actually bought mine new due to smash hype. Then all the people with Old 3DS' sticks started breaking so I didn't touch mine out of fear mine would break, even my friends' broke.
Then when the New 3DS came out with that new analog stick nub it was so insulting I just said fuck it and pretty much gave up.
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>>323145784
If somebody has full intention to pirate something, it means they had no intention to spend any money in the first place. Piracy essentially turns into free publicity which actually might boost sales in the end.
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>>323137461
It had lots of games.

Everyone just stole them via piracy
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>>323138759
Sony stopped funding PSP games within a year
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>>323146582
That doesn't sound so bad. As long as it remains possible, a few extra steps shouldn't be a problem, especially for people willing to learn some stuff instead of blindly following flowcharts.
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