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>Every ability just uses one button!
Why would you need it to be more complicated when it's about countering heroes with other heroes and their abilities?
>It has microtransactions at 40$
Their skins and HoTPaywall flopped. Get used to it.
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>>323091124
Who are you even quoting?
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>Get used to microtransactions
How about fuck you, buddy? If you charge me money for a game and then put microtransactions in that game, I will stop all support of your game from that point forward.
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>>323091236
Would you rather they charge 50$ per hero and a 2x damage multiplier?
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>>323091236
Then I guess you can't play any games, since they all have DLC
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>>323091672
Here's an idea; how about you charge me sixty dollars for a full game and then give challenges I can complete with those characters to unlock skins?
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>>323092054
Or you know, you can just not buy skins.
They don't do anything for you you know. Their like TF2 hats, they just look fancy. Your opinion is invalid faggot.
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>>323091124
>Their skins and HoTPaywall flopped. Get used to it.
>Get used to something they already tried that flopped
Okay.
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>>323091124
You seem to be having a conversation with yourself

Please stop
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>>323092648
You don't seem to have anything to add to the OP.
Please fuck off.
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HotS didn't flop, it's just a meme repeated by morons.

>if it's not as popular as lol and dota its a flop
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>>323092762
Even if it didn't flop, it certainly didn't succeed.
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>>323092197
Or you could just keep buying and supporting these bullshit practices while I enjoy all the games released this year that offer DLC for free/substantial content that is well worth the price of admission.

>The Witcher 3
>Bloodborne
>Yakuza 5
>Splatoon
>Mario Maker
>Hotline Miami 2
>Darkest Dungeon

Enjoy your cancerous MOBA community and constant in-game advertising, faggot.
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>/v/ is outraged when a game has micro transactions

Why? Why do you care so much especially when a game has cosmetics micro transactions that will have absolutely no effect on the gameplay? How autistic are you people?
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>>323093521
Anon, Overwatch isn't worth 60$. It's a 35$ game at best.
Read
>>323093954
Besides, Tf2 has microtransactions with the Mann CO store and nobody gives a shit.
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>>323093521
>Enjoy your cancerous MOBA community and constant in-game advertising, faggot.
I will, thanks. They're marketing towards me and making a game I like playing mechanically, and I enjoy all the communication the devs make on social media and on the OverPwn site.

I also enjoyed playing during the stress test weekend and will buy the game on release for $40.

Is this thread cathartic for you? I'm happy, I guess you deserve a chance at being somewhat happy too.
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>>323093954
>>323092762
>>323092197
>>323091124
Blizzard shills out in full force today.

Remember that advertising budgets for games can easily run over $10 million, depending on the expected return. Paying a group of 20 people $10 an hour to shitpost on the Internet barely makes a dent in marketing budgets.

You'd have to be a moron to think there aren't shills.
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>>323094465
>Anyone who disagrees with me is a shill.
Fuck off shill.
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>>323093521
Who do you think you are?
also putting darkest dungeon and hotline miami 2 next to these good games.
I think you have a mental illness anon. But i think you might already know this.
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>>323091124
>Get used to it

Always a great argument
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>>323094613
Come on, I know you're not this new to viral marketing strategies.

Step 1 is to NOT respond to people calling you out on it. Tell your manager to train you better.
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>>323094308
>TF2 has microtransactions with the Mann Co. Store and nobody gave a shit

Except everybody did give a shit. TF2 going F2P was literally the worst thing to happen to the TF2 community. It's selling better than ever and player counts are the highest they've ever been, but don't even fucking TRY to tell me that the people playing aren't meme spouters or Russkies or that the community is anywhere NEAR the level it was in skill back before it went F2P.
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>>323093112
Neither did CSGO for at least a year. It had consistently lower players than source or 1.6.
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>>323091124
>Diablo 3 has gone thru an expansion and many patches of fixes and additional content
>sells 30+ million across consoles and PC
>TF2 russians mad that a 1st person team shooter is going to come out with a $40 price and sell millions again, because Blizzard and a decade of guaranteed support

I look forward to each and every assblasted post you tryhards make in protest. Which milestone will fuck you the hardest? 10 million units? 15 million? 20 mill?

I can't wait.
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>>323094465
You didn't answer my question and go accusing me as a shill.

What's wrong with cosmetic micro transaction?
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It's pretty pathetic the lengths Blizzdrones will go to justify their interest in pure garbage that will go F2P within a month of release because CS:GO and TF2 already has everything the FPS crowd wants.

Blizzard might as well just give away everything to Valve. It's obvious Blizzard is incapable of delivering anything of value in 2016.
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>>323094738
Good job frank! You'll get a promotion soon enough if you keep chugging that corporate cock of mine ;D
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>>323094868
That's twice someone has responded to the person calling them out.

>>323094918
And this is three times.

You really need to work on your subtlety, unless you're purposefully just trying to get more eyes on the thread. If that's the case, you should have picked a better OP picture, as it's not a cute girl.
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>>323092054
that's doesn't earn them as much money
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>>323095096
Well you seem to know allot for someone who claims to not be a marketer.
Fuck off shill.
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>>323094465
>Paying a group of 20 people $10 an hour to shitpost on the Internet barely makes a dent in marketing budgets.

>You'd have to be a moron to think there aren't shills.

You;d be right, except I do it for FREE. :^) I play everything in the launcher except Starcraft 2
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They're planning on continuing development after release, they need to fund that some how.
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>>323095413
This.
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>>323095169
I know because I was a marketer, many years back. I did it for EA, using the same tactics you guys are doing now - except I was better than you guys are, since you're poor AND stupid.

>>323095252
I actually believe you, since your image uses the file name that you would get by default downloading it from 4chan.
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>>323095413
Blizzard has more than enough money to fund anything they want. They are just greedy.
>$10 for a hero in their ASSFAGGOT
Please. Go to hell Blizzard.
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>>323095413
>they need to fund that some how.
sure is hard funding Blizzard, with people still buying D2 and WC3 battlechests for $30 fucking dollars a decade or two after release
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Legion will flop
Hearthstone will die out
HotS is dead
Warcraft the Movie will flop
Overwatch will be successful for a while but will fall apart over time (see: WoW)

Blizzard is doomed. They'll rely on Starcraft 3 or a Starcraft MMO or a Diablo movie to save the but it'll be too late.
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>>323094782
>RoS sold 30 million+

that seems.... high, especially in today's market
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I actually do hope Overwatch kills TF2, not because I like Blizzard but because I hate Valve and their faggoty-ass fanbase so much more
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>>323095876
Overwatch is pretty much a guaranteed flop. Multiplayer-only paid games are unacceptable in 2016. Maybe if it were F2P it would have stood a chance, but nope. Not like F2P would be actually free like Dota 2. It would be P2W like HotS and Hearthstone.

Not even Star Wars could entice people.
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>>323093521
this anon gets it, fuck micro transactions. Only idiots encourage them.
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>>323095889
It's inflated with chinese and Korean sales. Same with WoW sub numbers.

First worlder's don't give a flying fuck about Blizzard.
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>>323096097
I really, really think you are underestimating the power of Blizzard marketers. These are the same people that sold an expansion of basically nothing to 10 million+ people, and charged more for it then any other expansion to boot.
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>>323095543
>I did it for EA.
And you seem to still be doing it now.
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>>323096415
You are deluded if you think people are going to fall for it again. Besides, Blizzard isn't relevant anymore. It's all Bethesda now.
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>no singleplayer

And dropped. I'm sick of multiplayer-only games, let alone ones that charge me 40 bucks just to play.
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>>323095876
>Diablo movie

Unless it was a like a cosmic horror movie about helpless humanity caught in the crossfire between ruthless angels and sadistic demons, like a straight up horror film a la In the Mouth of Madness where the protagonist is powerless and the things that would see him dead are anything but, I don't see how this could possibly not be just another videogame adaptation that fails to make back 1/10th of its budget.

I loved the Diablo lore for too long to want to see it raped for the masses in the big screen.
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>>323096576
>I'm sick of singleplayer-only games, let alone ones that charge me 60 bucks just to play.
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>>323096559
>Blizzard isn't relevant anymore

yeah the company that just bought fucking MLG isn't relevant anymore, you got me anon
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>>323096692
40$ Base game, 60$ for extra skins.
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>>323094308
>Anon, Overwatch isn't worth 60$. It's a 35$ game at best.

It's $40 unless you get the collector's edition, which is $60

Don't spread misinformation
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SO how scared is every other company to have so many shills shitting up this board?
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>>323096719
So a dad rock dev bought another slightly younger dad rock dev? That's like if Metallica bought Motley Crue, who fucking cares? Not gamers of today.
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>>323095543
Such a shame your only argument in this thread is that everyone who likes Overwatch is a shill.
Then you admit that you are a shill.
Fuck off shill.
>>323096906
I never said it WAS 40$. I was just saying that if they charged 60$ for the game as it is then I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
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>>323096692

What's wrong with that statement? If you have a singleplayer, or multiplayer-only game, why are you charging me full price for it? 10-20 dollars should be the max.

If that's not profitable, then cut back on the realistic graphics and voice acting.
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>>323096959
Has there ever actually been 100%, proven factual evidence of any company shilling on /v/ or any 4chan board?

It's not that I don't believe it, not in this age of sponsored content and shit. I'm just curious because people have been throwing that out so much and I wanna know how justified that accusation really is.
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>>323091124
>free maps and heroes
I'll take skins micro transactions over dlc characters and maps , I would prefer everything already in the game but that doesn't happen anymore so the latter is better.
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>>323091236
Microtransactions are acceptable when in-game currency is easy to acquire and those who do not purchase are not at a true disadvantage (e.g. Garden Warfare.)

F2P games can have either a purchasable in-game currency or premium accounts; I will not play a game with both.
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>>323097130
So Just Cause should be $20
That Tomb Raider game coming out
Witcher 3
Fallout 4
Should I compile a giant list that isn't Blizzard so you can shit up all of /v/ by complaining about them, all being singleplayer games that cost $60?
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>>323096097
>Overwatch is pretty much a guaranteed flop.

lmao this denial is kinda sad
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>>323097130
>If you have a singleplayer, or multiplayer-only game, why are you charging me full price for it? 10-20 dollars should be the max.
Holy fuck how are you so retarded
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>>323097329
>Has there ever actually been 100%, proven factual evidence of any company shilling on /v/ or any 4chan board?
Borderlands 1 and the XBLA remaster of Perfect Dark were 100% actually marketed on here.

Any other example is either speculation or bullshit. I have been here way too long and shouldn't know this i hate myself.
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>>323097629
Yep.
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>>323097746
Yeah man, games like Brink, Battlefront, Titanfall and Evolve were so successful. People really like multiplayer-only paid games. Overwatch is a guaranteed success.
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>>323097329
At least in the high 90%, they definitely check in on /v/ from time to time especially if a game is truly terrible and they get flooded with negative reviews, they blame it on some concerted effort to make them look bad.
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>>323097989
>the only problem with these games were that they cost money

Nigga is you serious
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>>323097629

>so Just Cause should be $20
Yes

>Tomb raider
Yes.

>Witcher 3
It can be 30 dollars, but not a cent over.

>Fallout 4
Wouldn't even pay 5 dollars for it.

>Should I compile a giant list that isn't Blizzard so you can shit up all of /v/ by complaining about them, all being singleplayer games that cost $60
Usually they're overpriced garbage whose poor quality speak for themselves. So go right ahead.
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>>323097989
>Brink, Battlefront, Titanfall, and Evolve all failed because they were multi only.
>Not because they were badly designed bullshit.
It's debatable whether or not multi only was a factor, but saying that it was the primary reason for such is just retarded.
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>>323097989
So by that logic every f2p ever should be the pinnacle of success?
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>>323098387
Titanfall is legitimately good though
still alive on Xbone
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>>323098298
>Everything should be 20$ or 30$.
Then you clearly have no idea how business works.
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>>323098229
>>323098387
You people think Blizzard is capable of making a better game? This watered down bullshit of an FPS that makes TF2 look like Quake? No normie or pro FPS player cares about Overwatch, it appeals to nobody.

>>323098448
It would at least stave off the death of the community, but now the community will be dead after a month because the price is unjustified for this little content.
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>>323092054
>and then give challenges I can complete with those characters to unlock skins?
hey guys I know we really don't need a widowmaker but I'm only ten headshots away from my new skin
sorry guys i know we've already got someone playing reinhardt but i need to land more ults with him so i can get my new skin
guys go die please i need to resurrect more people for my skin unlock

>wanting cancer in his game
let the blizzdrones buy their skins or let them ruin your matches more than they already do
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>>323098529
You mean how everybody manipulated the system so that all news games are set at $60 regardless of actual content and quality?

Good goyim for sticking up for big business.
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>>323091124
>Why would you need it to be more complicated

Blizzdrones, folks. Take a good long gander
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>>323098681
That's not how it works retard, subscription models kill a community after the month of free time expires.
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>>323098681
>I won't play this game so it appeals to nobody

Yeah man, I mean I was at Blizzcon this year and every other word I heard was Overwatch

People were talking about it more than the newest WoW expansion, and the lines to play it were longer than the lines for any other game I'd ever seen at Blizzcon

You can use un-quantifiable buzzwords like "casual" all you like, because you're living in your little bubble where the only "acceptable" game to play is Dota 2
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>>323098815
Or you know, vidya cost money to make.
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>>323098529

It's called a competitive market, son.

>guy releases game for 60 bucks
>another guy releases a game for 20 bucks, and is better overall

I can get both, but it'd be smart to get the latter.
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>>323098815
>all news games are set at $60
The fuck are you talking about?
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So any poor BRs, retards, shills, or SJWs want to complain about the game being p2w?
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>>323099078

And better games can be released for cheaper, with higher quality. There's no excuse.
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>>323098854
Being more complicated does not mean better.
Dorf fortress was very complex but never kicked off because it was to complicated.
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>>323098854
You want fighting game combos in a shooter?
Alrighty, you stand there for 2 seconds to do a flying uppercut while I just shoot you in the face some more.
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>>323099259
someone here doesn't know anything about economics
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>>323098815
except the game in question is only $40
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>>323099187
>p2w

The term you're looking for is P2P. Though I don't doubt it will be P2W on top of that too.
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>>323098906
Subscription models are the ultimate form of greed. You should pay once and get everything.
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>>323099414
Yeah man, those skins are really gonna shake up the balance of the game
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>>323099395

>shooters are as complicated to learn as fighting games
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>>323099395
Sod ya I want to have a 3 key sequence to not fuck up putting down a landmine.
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>>323099414
No, those retards got laughed out of these threads by claiming the game was p2w.
As for p2p, wrong model, this is b2p, p2p is subscription games.
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>>323099410
CS:GO is $15. No excuse.
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>>323091124
>It has microtransactions at 40$

Wait what? What the fuck. I thought it was cancelled once they put a 40$ price sign on it.
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>>323099401

>game costs alot of money
>don't use hyper-realistic graphics
>don't use voice actors
>game now costs less money

WOW SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND
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>>323091124
>Get used to it

How about I don't. By not playing the game.
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>>323099259
that is an exceedingly idealistic view. I dont disagree that a lot of games end up being overcosted, but The Witcher 3 being worth $30 at best? I think you have some skewed views and are a tad disconnected with the current market
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>>323099596
It has a skin shop
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>>323099595
>Implying CS:GOtism is good.
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>$40 for the base game + future updates + future heroes + future maps
>Only have to pay extra for skins
I'm okay with this
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>>323096054
Yeah man, valve has been going to shit for a while now, and TF2 is nothing more than a money grubbing pile of sadness now.
I really hope overwatch is successful and kills TF2, someone needs to show valve they can't just sit on their over 7 year old game pumping out hats forever.
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>>323099616
>graphics and voice actors are the biggest part of a game's budget

holy shit just stop
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>>323099802
Better than Overwatch. Twitch and Steam stats alone prove that.
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>>323099639
Well thank you for the bump, remember to hide threads you don't like.
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>>323099482
>thinking Blizzard won't go back on their "word" about no paid heroes
>thinking there won't be advantages for people willing to pay up the shekels for them

Where have you been the past 6 years or so?

>>323099576
And you're right, it's b2p.
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>>323091792
>all games have DLC
Seriously nigger? Are you legit retarded? Please show me the paid dlc in The Witcher, Demon's Souls, Devil May Cry, Dynasty Warriors, Tekken Tag, et cetera.
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>>323099962
When this meme that twitch views mean anything start?
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>>323099918
I hope this was sarcasm.
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>>323099827

That's how it starts tho
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>>323099668

>voice actors don't ask for millions just to say 2 lines over and over
>stupidly realistic graphics don't require countless man hours rendering the billions of polygons

And you say "i'm" deluded? If your precious game can't hold itself on gameplay, then no amount of graphics and Tara Strong/Nolan North ego stroking will fix it.
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Blizzard threads are always filled with EA/other companies shills.

That's why every person who says something positive about overwatch is called a shill and the threads derail. Bitches are scared because blizzard is actually making a great game.

Other threads dont have nearly as much shill talk being thrown around.
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>>323099616
i guess that would be a good plan if your ultimate goal was to make your product as cheap as possible, but that isn't most devs goal.

For better or worse people are very used to paying 40-60 dollars on games with high end graphics and care about those graphics a great deal.
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>>323099962

>Twitch
>proving anything is good
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>>323099990
So you have no argument here, except your own cynicism
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>>323100049
Witcher has the hearts of stone expansion and some other one to come out later iirc, don't follow the others.
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>>323100052
Valvedrones who have literally nothing to justify their taste other than "muh Twitch views" and "muh prizepools"

if Twitch views are the only metric of quality, then LoL and Hearthstone are the best games in the world
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>>323097130
>Post retarded message along with an undertale image so people associate undertale with retards and indirectly start hating undertale even more.

clever girl
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>>323100052
When idiots tried to claim their game wasn't dead. HotS is dead and LoL and Dota 2 are thriving, Twitch proves that. It also scales how popular something is.

It would be easier if Blizzard weren't complete cowards hiding numbers, but you know, jews and all that.
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>>323099962
Overwatch isn't even playable right now, of course there are no Twitch viewers dipshit

Wait for open beta or release
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>>323099962
>Twitch and Steam stats.
>For a game that isn't even out yet.
Do I need any further proof?
>>323099827
This.
>>323099990
>T-They'll fuck it up you'll see!
>They've definitely gone back on their word and fuck it up, it's happened before!
When then faggot?
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>>323100201
HotS is still dead garbage so it doesn't matter, it's a lose lose situation for Blizzdrones.
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>>323100145

>For better or worse people are very used to paying 40-60 dollars on games with high end graphics and care about those graphics a great deal.
People are used to playing DOTA, counterstrike and TF2. By your logic those games are perfect and can't be criticized because of "muh popularity and bandwagon acceptance."
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>>323093521
>The Glitcher
>Shitty version of King's Field with fedoras
>Poor man's Shenmue
>Squid loli pedo shit casual tps that's so simple, you shoot at the floor
>paying for a level editor when there are free ones
>le git gud indie trial and error pixel shit that tries to hide that the artist just can't draw worth a fuck
>the only roguelike more stupid than Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
wow, great list, anon
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>>323100270
It had no views when the beta was up. Nobody cares. I hope you are getting paid overtime for shilling a DOA game.
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>>323100310
Hots isnt dead though. I can easily find games any time during the day
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>>323099962
>more popular = better
>implying CSGO is popular for being good, and not because of crate/skin/esport autism
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Whatever happened to unlocking things in game? I would pay $60 for no microtransactions and unlockable skins/weapons/whatever.
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>>323100335
did you quote the wrong post?
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>>323099962
Islam and Scientology are two widely practiced religions. I guess those are pretty good groups to join, huh?
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>>323099990
Amusingly enough, Blizzard chose their words very well. They said that for 40bux, you get "access to all the heroes CURRENTLY in the game"

Meaning, if they later on add paid heroes, they can still cover their asses (^:
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>>323100454
More popular = not dead and getting support. Nobody wants to play a dead online game like Tribes: Ascend or WoW.
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>>323100410
>Nobody cares because I say they don't
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>>323100130
>Blizzard is making great porn material

Fixed for ya, family. We all know the only thing that will still be around and in use of Overwatch after a year or so are the SFM models.
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>>323100463
Unclear, they didn't like how the first tests worked out with it because it made people not switch heroes just to level up, which is bad for teams that need to adjust.
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>>323100464

Stop moving the goalposts. The point is that it's wrong to charge 60 bucks for a multiplayer or singleplayer-only experience. Just because people think it's okay doesn't magically make it so.

Before you bring it up, yes, I do have the authority to say that it's wrong to charge that much, because other companies have done far better at lower prices.
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>>323094465
They don't contract individual people. They hire marketing firms that do the marketing for them. Most of these viral marketing companies use bots to do the actual marketing.
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>>323100424
Yet Blizzdrones can't prove that in any way.
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>>323100064
Valve haven't produced a worth while update for TF2 in over a year at least, I know it's longer but I can't be arsed going and looking.
Every update now is just more ways to make money, you even have to pay into their events, everything is community made and it's all just hats and skins.
And as for valve itself, they've been doing some dodgy shit too, but everyone gives them a free pass on the bullshit they pull because all their eggs in one basket levels of Stockholm syndrome.
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>>323100504
Except they went ahead and announced that all future maps and heroes will be free

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/overwatchs-future-heroes-and-maps-will-remain-free
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>>323100463
Blizzard said they wanted to put in some system with unlockable cosmetics in overwatch but they didnt want people to grind out one character just to get them because overwatch is all about "dynamic team composition".
They're thinking about alternative way for now and haven't confirmed anything.
Most shit will still be paid though. They want to make money somehow
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>>323100463
Devs have said there will be a progression system of some sort that will most likely give you skins for hitting certain milestones. They have apparently tried out a few systems and havent been happy with any of them as of yet
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>>323091124
>counter
Literally a rock paper scissors system to cater to people with low skill.
>Get used to it.
To flops you mean.
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>>323100504
They stated last month future heroes and maps will be free.
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>>323100556
I'd rather play a fun game with a small community than a shit game that everyone is playing. You're telling me you'd rather play Call of Duty than Unreal Tournament just because its playerbase is inflated by a million twelve year olds?
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>>323100645
>The point is that it's wrong to charge 60 bucks for a multiplayer or singleplayer-only experience.
I'm so glad the industry moved on from catering to retards like you.

Remember when every game needed tacked on multiplayer that would be dead on arrival?
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>>323100571
Nobody talks about anything but the porn. So no, nobody important cares.
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>>323100659

>Valve haven't produced a worth while update for TF2 in over a year at least,
Stopped reading there. The new maps, massive balance changes, and cosmetics that don't affect gameplay would say otherwise.

>inb4 "they're all shit"

Why?
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>>323100659
>Dodgy shit
Literally what? Also TF2 is 7 years old, Dota 2 and CS:GO are their current focus and those games are the best on the market.
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>>323100645
It's $40.
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>>323100685
I was unaware of that, I haven't really been keeping up with news about the game, my apologies.
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>>323100731

>I'm so glad the industry moved on from catering to retards like you.
It's retarded to stand for basic consumer rights?
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>>323100657
3am here
Quick match search is around 3 minutes
Hero league search is always faster so probably 2 minutes or a bit less
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>>323100645
unless you believe in god and objective morality then the only thing thats "wrong" is what the market wont tolerate

If the game flops then they did something wrong, but to say its morally objectionable for different products to charge different prices is idealistic nonsense.
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>>323100130
>great game
come the fuck on

>20 tick rate servers for 6v6 official servers
>no community ran servers
>designed for shitty console play
>edgy plagiarized anime backgrounds for half of the characters
>casual trash that will die after 6 months
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>>323100730
Nobody on /v/ is going to be playing Overwatch, just like nobody plays Blizz or Riot shit.

Things are popular for a reason, but things are also dead because they are shit games.
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>>323100875

It's multiplayer only and looks like a PS2 game, so why is it anything over 20 dollars?
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>>323100921
How is tacked on multiplayer a basic consumer right?
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>>323100719
>Rock paper scissors system.
Where?
>Flops.
So it will flop because skins? Wow you must be fun at parties.
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>>323100921
Worthless tacked on multiplayer is a consumer right now?
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New heroes when?
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>>323100926
It probably took 3 minutes for a 10th player to log on and search for a match at the same time as you. For all you know, 8 people have been waiting in queue all day.
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>>323091124
>It has microtransactions at 40$
Are you serious? This shit doesn't even look worth $40 in the first place.
It looked kind of fun, too, what a shame.
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>>323100767
I think you might be confusing whats said on /v/ with the general consensus.
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>>323101019
>no arguments
As expected.
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>>323100719
No, it's not like that. You're just making stuff up. The "counters" are soft at best.
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>>323101015
>looks like a PS2 game
How so? I'm not even a waifufag and I think the character models look pretty good.
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>>323101083
epic
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>>323100921
It's 40 dollars anyway.
Also
>Basic consumer rights.
You seem rather entitled.
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>IT COSTS """"""""""""""MONEY"""""""""""""

BRs, peruvians, russians and other shitskins I dont want to play with BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
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>>323101096
SKINS ONLY

Fucking OP is a false-flagging retard
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Lol at all the entitled poorfags ITT. You guys would never have what it takes to become successful or run a profitable business. I feel sorry for you faggots
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>>323101062
Is that official art?
There's a lot of characters in that picture that haven't been shown.
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>>323100935
>>20 tick rate servers for 6v6 official servers
Impercivable anyway.
>>no community ran servers
Easily fixable.
>>designed for shitty console play
Who gives a shit?
>>edgy plagiarized anime backgrounds for half of the characters
Buzzwords.
>>casual trash that will die after 6 months
No it won't.
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ITT butthurt valveshills
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>>323101317
It's the hologram from the cinematic trailer. It's also missing half the known characters.
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>>323100984
You are so very wrong. You act like you know everyone on this board. Fuck off
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>>323101134
>No arguments.
Why did you respond to my post if you are just describing your own? A argument needs facts and evidence supporting it.
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>>323101317
devs have said there are quite a few characters in varying stages of development. They like the current roster for launch but we will get more free characters as time goes on.
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>>323101017
>>323101035
>>323101228

Nice missing the point entirely. I'm the one arguing that games shouldn't need a tacked on multiplayer. If you're gonna have it, it should be good and then have a singleplayer designed to make you good at it. Something more than just a glorified tutorial.

IF your game has no multiplayer, then the game has to be cheaper. No singleplayer is worth 60 dollars.. I'm not paying for a game that's half-assed.
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>>323101524
Good, you won't be missed
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>IF your game has no multiplayer, then the game has to be cheaper. No singleplayer is worth 60 dollars.. I'm not paying for a game that's half-assed.
Okay, this is bait.
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>>323100926
>playing hots
never again will I touch that shit
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>>323101646

>it's bait if you don't want to pay 60 dollars for a 3 hour hallway simulator

Triple A games, everyone.
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>>323100659
I totaly agree with from 659. TF2 is one big advertising slogan. Cosmetics out of the Lore just killed this game. Last time(about 1 month ago) when I entered to game, it was totaly garbage of diodes hats with effects, totaly out of lore pile of junk hats etc. Valve literaly killing every game cause of that Jewish Blood in their veins, TF2 isn't the only one, DotA2 itm is in Agony, becouse it becaming same pile of junk.
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Usually I agree with /v/ about the shittiness of modern AAA games, but then a great game like Overwatch comes along and everyone still hates it. You faggots just blindly hate anything popular without playing it or applying critical thinking.

People calling it "casual" LOL, I'm sure you're a pro at Quake right?
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>>323101524
if thats how you feel then thats fine i guess, just know that not very many people feel that way and its unlikely the market will cater to you given the general populace's predilections.

you can wax philosophical about right and wrong all you want, but in the end all it means is that at the price-points you are demanding you have to resign yourself to indie steam games
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>>323101741
Economics and the value money change ya git.
I bet you still think a 10$ bill should buy you a new car.
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>>323101705
I dont know mang.
It's kinda fun.
Haven't paid a single $ and I have over half the cast. I can deal with not having the newest heroes for a while and I dont care about skins.
It's a nice break after I get too stressed from playing SC2 ladder.
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>>323101120
What? People outside of /v/ have something valuable to say? Like who? Nobody comes here because people outside 4chan aren't blind dumb drones.

What am I going to hear except that it's the best game ever from Blizzdrones who buy store mounts from WoW? Am I supposed to treat that like an intelligent opinion?
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>>323101827
Seems likely a good number of them are shills from other companies that seem terrified of the game. A lot of the complaints are literally about wrong information and such which has been corrected over and over yet they repeat it.
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>>323100686
>They want to make money somehow
They're already selling the game itself for $40
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>>323101216
Can't prove otherwise. Unless you can conjure up some numbers Blizzard doesn't provide.
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>>323101741
yep, thats definitely the average AAA game. You really nailed it.

oh and once again, the game isnt 60 its 40
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>>323101997
HoTS shot itself with a money wasting blunderbuss, they have to make those shekels back.
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>>323101868
>>323101893

It's awful weird how you guys are okay with Blizzard charging 40 bucks for this, and the defense is "they're a company, they're allowed to want money."

Why is nobody else allowed to make money though? If Valve charge 20 bucks for Counterstrike, they're considered the devil.
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>>323101705
It's the only moba that tries to do new things and bring some freshness to an extremely stale genre. Blizzard stopped trying to make it an esports game and went for boring ol' fun.

Cry shill all you want, doesn't make it any less true.
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>>323101997
...and with the money from skins will fund the development afterwards

does this make sense now?
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>overwatch thread
>almost 200 posts in
>still no Mei tubs.
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>>323101947
>Am I supposed to treat that like an intelligent opinion?

*Tips*
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>>323101491
People here are old enough to know that Neo-Blizzard and Blizzard aren't the same people. Blizzard USED to make good games a long time ago, but not now. Nobody does or at least should be playing their new games.

They were a fad, they made gold once and now only make garbage. Simple as that. We've all moved on. At least those of us who were smart enough to see their jew tricks after D3.
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>>323101947
>/v/ is full of intelligent informed discussion far superior to anything else and all opinions expressed anywhere but /v/ are invalid
thanks anon, i really needed a laugh
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>>323102143
>Why is nobody else allowed to make money though? If Valve charge 20 bucks for Counterstrike, they're considered the devil.

Who are you arguing with? Yourself?
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>>323102143
They need to fund the games own devolopment with 40$ and skins.
Blizzard is actually less jewish than usual on this one, it's a step in the right general direction.
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>>323101997
I mean long term.
If you plan to support game for a long time with meaningful content you need some money maker.
Fighting games do it by releasing tons of expansions. Same with RTS. Just selling cosmetics is a good way imo.

>>323102073
You want me to record getting a match? Stop being retarded.
Hots isn't the most popular moba but there's enough people to find games.
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>>323102221
>>323102294
I'm sorry you are assblasted that /v/ is always right. No amount of droning will change the fact that the game you shill is shit.
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>>323102286
>Blizzard made 1 bad game so now nobody should play their games ever again

I know you got burned on Diablo 3 but damn son
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>>323102164
>liking fat women
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>>323094465
>You're
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>>323097329
there was big thing with the tortanic, someone anon latter fessed up to being a shill and provided evidence.

I'm still not convinced it wasn't the greatest troll ever though, since its done irreversible damage to this board
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>>323102354

If it was a step in the right direction, the game would have free DLC forever, and would only cost 10 dollars. But considering Starcraft 2, I doubt they'll keep the DLC free.

>promise it'll only be 3 installments
>chop LOTV into two segments and ask 100 dollars for both

Nova missions. Lol.
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>>323102286
>jew tricks after D3
Like removing RMAH? Trying to improve the game and patching it constantly to this day? They're adding whole new areas with patches now.
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>>323101383
>Impercivable anyway.
I bet you think the human eye can't see past 30fps as well.
>Easily fixable.
>implying Blizzard, the company that made Diablo 3 always online and absolutely fucked SC2's arcade will allow community servers
>Who gives a shit?
People that don't like consoles holding them back? Did you play Oblivion? Could you feel the casulization? The consolitis? The dumbing down of the game to suit younger people that owned Xboxes? The same principle applies here. Why play a dumbed down console shooter on PC when you have better games you could be playing?
>Buzzwords.
kek, Widowmaker is literally just the bitch from Taimanin Asagi, but French instead of Japanese. Genji is Hakumen from BlazBlue mixed with gray fox, not to mention that a fucking cyborg ninja is completely out of place here. What's next? A kamen rider? We already have a yoichi wielding yakuza member with a samurai haircut, a power suit equipped Egyptial version of Samus Aran, a jet set radio character, a mecha pilot (who's design is stolen from an Eva plug suit and the robots from Patlabor), and chink pyro. There's even a randomly pink haired female that can lift weapons far beyond what women can normally lift, so it's just like my Japanese animes. Better get Jam Project to do the theme song and it will be all set for broadcast.
>No it won't.
because Blizzard will force an esports scene before it's even remotely balanced and ready for serious play because they let Pewdiepie and a bunch of other nobody streamers play it for a few weeks?
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>>323102427
If you don't like the game the thread is talking about, then hide the thread and fuck off faggot.
By your logic, any thread talking good about a game is a shill thread.
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>>323102546
>If it was a step in the right direction, the game would have free DLC forever, and would only cost 10 dollars.

Why, is $10 your weekly allowance from your mommy? Just save it up for 4 weeks and buy OW
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>>323102491
>Enjoying only sticks.
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>>323102164
I wasn't really into Mei.
Then /v/ showed me the light.
Give me that thick booty please.
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>>323102456
>1 bad game
All three SC2 "expansions".
RoS.
Cataclysm onwards.
HotS.
Hearthstone.

All shit. It's like saying Metallica albums are still good.
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>>323102286
I'm surprised that chart showing all the old blizz and blizz north guys leaving and going elsewhere hasn't been posted yet
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>can't play more Gigantic until they get their playtesting schedule shit together
>never got my account flagged for $40 TF2

God fucking damnit Blizzard fucking give it to me NOW
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>>323102143
>If Valve charge 20 bucks for Counterstrike, they're considered the devil.
when has anyone ever said that?

Valve uses a different model because they have the very well established steam workshop and can effectively give games away with the relative certainty that they will make significant microtransaction money off of them.

Combine that with a system that has the community doing most of the legwork in creating those cosmetics and valve would be fools not to price their games as low as humanly possible.

Im not trying to say blizz is the best ever or even the overwatch will be good, just that you have to look deeper into an issue before you declare you understand exactly how things work.
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>>323102642

>the "poor" excuse

If I was poor, i wouldn't have a PC. I just don't like wasting money.
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>>323102627
>M-muh safe space
>No criticism allowed!
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>>323102627
You know, other games come under fire of negative posts as well. Somehow Overwatch gets an exception?
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>>323102673
SC2 was pretty good other than the story. Lotv has really nice multiplayer

RoS fixed a lot of things about D3 and is still getting patched, huge improvement. D3 was a huge disaster on release.

No excuses for WoW

Hots is good for what it is, casual quick moba

Same with hearthstone
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>>323102427
if you think /v/ is always right you must lead a sad life where very very few games that arent jrpgs with fan service are acceptable.

If thats really how you feel then i just feel sorry for you.
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>>323102597
Because that totally excuses the shit early life of the game and the insultingly terrible story.

Also DRM is great! Everybody loves DRM in single-player games! Wouldn't want people to mod the game and detract from Blizzards PERFECT VISION.
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>>323102785
>THE GAME YOU LIKE IS SHIT!!!
>criticism

lmao
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>>323102673
>My opinions are FACT

You're contradicting yourself too, since you said earlier that dota 2 is the best game because it has more twitch views. Well, HS has even more, so well done
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>>323102546
>f it was a step in the right direction, the game would have free DLC forever, and would only cost 10 dollars.
Are you asking them to be less Jewish or go fucking bankrupt?
>>323102602
>Easily fixable.
>implying Blizzard, the company that made Diablo 3 always online.
They fixed D3 a long time ago lad.
>People that don't like consoles holding them back? Did you play Oblivion? Could you feel the casulization? The consolitis? The dumbing down of the game to suit younger people that owned Xboxes? The same principle applies here. Why play a dumbed down console shooter on PC when you have better games you could be playing?
>PC mustard race meme.
>kek, Widowmaker is literally just the bitch from Taimanin Asagi, but French instead of Japanese. Genji is Hakumen from BlazBlue mixed with gray fox, not to mention that a fucking cyborg ninja is completely out of place here. What's next? A kamen rider? We already have a yoichi wielding yakuza member with a samurai haircut, a power suit equipped Egyptial version of Samus Aran, a jet set radio character, a mecha pilot (who's design is stolen from an Eva plug suit and the robots from Patlabor), and chink pyro. There's even a randomly pink haired female that can lift weapons far beyond what women can normally lift, so it's just like my Japanese animes. Better get Jam Project to do the theme song and it will be all set for broadcast.
So everything in the game is a anime ripoff then? Guess everything ever written needs to be 100% original and not in any way similar to another thing or it's a rip off
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>>323102903

>SC2 was pretty good other than the story. Lotv has really nice multiplayer
Are you crazy? Did you forget how every mission can be cheesed by just grouping your units into one big ball of death and killing evrything?

Source: I've beaten brutal, and it's far from living up to its namesake. No skill, no strategy, no need for map control even.
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>>323102903
>RoS fixed a lot of things about D3 and is still getting patched, huge improvement. D3 was a huge disaster on release.
>buy expansion to unfuck the game
No.
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>>323096409
Gotcha, makes sense because Diablo 3 is dead as fuck.
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>>323102903
>SC2 was pretty good other than the story. Lotv has really nice multiplayer
The multiplayer is so good that it's completely dead and all the Korean SC2 pros have moved back to BW.

>RoS fixed a lot of things about D3 and is still getting patched, huge improvement. D3 was a huge disaster on release.
"RoS fixed everything!" Except it didn't fix the game being a complete insult to D2 and dumbed down console crap.

>No excuses for WoW
Good.

>Hots is good for what it is, casual quick moba
LoL does that already and even it has more depth than HotS. Also It's pricing is much more reasonable.

Same with hearthstone
Hearthstone is good for gambling addicts and faux TCG "pros".
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>>323103056

>Are you asking them to be less Jewish or go fucking bankrupt?
They deserve to go bankrupt for ruining one series after another.
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>>323103257
The face of autism
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>>323102985
Keep crying Blizzdrone.
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>>323102673
SC2 was fine
ROS was apparently better than vanilla D3
WoW is still fine
HOTS is great, just not as popular yet as the big 3
Hearthstone is great too
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>>323103056
>Are you asking them to be less Jewish or go fucking bankrupt?
WoW is a constant cash cow, they are still making a fuckton of money from other game sales. Removing these microtransactions, they will still be able to fund the future development

also
>D3
>fixed
Not with the always online mode
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>>323103340
The face of blind fanboyism for a defunct dad rock developer.
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>>323103327
>They deserve to go bankrupt for ruining one series after another.
you know i usually hate the word "entitled" as its been overused to the point of meaninglessness, but that being said i dont thin ive ever seen a more proper use than to describe this post
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>>323103257
>LoL does that already and even it has more depth than HotS. Also It's pricing is much more reasonable.

Are you kidding, LoL has the worst MOBA business model

HOTS offers daily quests and level-up gold, and doesn't jew you with rune pages like LoL does
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>>323091124
So many varied diverse characters but no cute boi.
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>>323103367
(You)
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>>323103480
Keep hating m8, we'll have fun while you diaperpost on /v/
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>>323103484
How is it entitled to continually expect quality?
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>>323102673
>All three SC2 "expansions".
All of them are actually pretty good games.
>RoS.
Saved D3 by pretty much taking out everything that sucked and adding tons of stuff like adventure mode and rifts that made the game fun again.
>Cataclysm onwards.
Okay, with this I have to agree. WoW has been pretty shit since Cata.
>HotS.
Haven't played it since I don't give a shit about MoBAs so I can't really comment if it's good or not.
>Hearthstone.
One of the most popular f2p games atm, you really can't call that a bad game or failure.
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Anyone saying D3 has ever been fixed doesn't understand all they keep doing is inflating power levels. What they need to do is change the difficulties increasing them by a factor of 100 or something to balance things out
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>>323103431
>they are already so successful that they need to give me free stuff
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>>323103702
They aren't free stuff if I have to pay $40 for the game itself in the first place, retard.
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>>323103676
Your sense of what quality is isn't fact
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>>323103064
It's pretty easy, true. But the missions have nice variety and are pretty fun. Some missions are pretty tense on brutal, mostly the defense ones though.

>>323103080
Do you play D2 without LoS?

>>323103257
>The multiplayer is so good that it's completely dead and all the Korean SC2 pros have moved back to BW.
That's simply not true. There are always some guys that were once good at a game, fail at a new one and go back but the SC2 scene is still much bigger.

More "pros" went back to WC3 than to BW.

>"RoS fixed everything!" Except it didn't fix the game being a complete insult to D2 and dumbed down console crap.
But D2 was dumb as fuck too. Diablo was never some hardcore franchise. It could have easily been on console.

>LoL does that already and even it has more depth than HotS. Also It's pricing is much more reasonable.
The pricing is exactly the same in terms of real money but Hots makes it a bit easier to get shit for free without grinding out games thanks to dailies.
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>>323103645
>we
Speak for yourself, faggot.
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>>323103563
Doesn't matter. Dota 2 offers them for free anyways.
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>>323103689
They started adding more torment levels lately
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>>323091124

Realistically speaking: How much did HotS flopped?
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>>323092054
>make videogame
>can make tons of extra money by including skins you buy with real money
>decide against it cuz some autist anon got made at me on 4chan

Why do you faggots always blame the dev? This is obviously the fault of the consumer as they've grown obsessed with instant gratification.
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>>323103907
You've been saying "we" all thread, diaper. Take your own advice
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>>323103903
D2 was fine without LoD. They were called rares - something that got somewhat gutted in LoD and completely shafted in D3
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>>323103903

>But the missions have nice variety and are pretty fun
What variety? You just mass a death ball and win.
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Gonna be played for about 3 months
Then it'll disappear into obscurity

Great waifus though
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>>323104015
e-sports wise? Completely
Casual play wise? It's done ok. Not amazing
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The game was made with consoles in mind so of course it has dumbed down controls.
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>>323103837
The initial cost is to recoup development costs, and the skins are to sustain the maintenance needed for a long running online game. You know, like lots of online games.


this feels especially petty when free characters and maps have been promised in the future to ensure everyone will always be on a level playing field. If that promise gets broken then ill be very unhappy, but as of now the devs seem quite committed.
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>>323103903
>Do you play D2 without LoS?
D2 wasn't always online console crap without LoS.
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PoE is the true successor to D2 anyhow.
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>>323104175
How are you posting if you don't have internet?
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I like the fact that the game costs $40. It's going to keep out the trash that plague all the f2p games.
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>>323104050
I am not even the guy you are arguing with you colossal sperg.
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>>323097019

>MLG
>dev

???
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>>323104175
>buzzword buzzword buzzword
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>>323104350
You've been samefagging a lot, so yes you are.
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>>323104085
Yes but you do it in different ways or with timers, limited resources and other fun gimmicks.
I really don't see how you can make an RTS campaign where you make "Death balls" completely unviable. SC1 was the same way.
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WAAAH WAAAH WHY MUST GAMES COST MONEY??? ITS 2016
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>>323091124
>Lucio is a manlet
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>>323104802
take off his rollerblades and he's probably shorter than tracer
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Who's the best hero and why is it Junkrat?
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