>>323085992 3DS >two games already released in Japan >one port+new content >shovelware sanicshit >HAL doing something low-budget >Next Level (a B-tier studio) sadly tasked with a D-tier game
WiiU >a game that's already out in Japan >a port >a game that Namco is doing >the aforementioned sanicshit >Starfox stumbles to the end of its dev cycle >Zelda U may or may not actually technically "exist"
anyone who doesn't think Nintendo is building up resources for an NX launch this year is blind. This is the epitome of budget-games.
>>323088582 The WiiU is the N64 of current gen. Nintendo completely misread the trends and fucked up on a bunch of fronts. There's still enough games to make it a decent purchase, though, but I'm waiting to see if the NX is backwards compatible.
>>323088567 >the last guardian dude they haven't shown anything of that game since forever. I bet it's garbage and they don't want to release it. why else would something be delayed for like 7 years. Should just scrap the project and use the assets to make a different game, forget the griffon since it obviously isn't working out and is not actually that interesting anymore
Gravity Rush 2 Yakuza 6 Yakuza 0 Yakuza: Kiwami The Idolmaster The King of Fighters XIV Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue Megadimension Neptunia VII New Hot Shots Golf NieR Automata Ni-Oh Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories Detroit Ratchet & Clank Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End Ace Combat 7 Ni no Kuni II Nights of Azure Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force Horizon Zero Dawn Valkyria: Azure Revolution The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2
PS4's life is just starting and it took 3 fucking years. Good job Sony.
>>323089967 It's funny because PS4 is selling about 5x as fast as Wii U with much longer legs and the ratio continuing to widen. PS4 will likely end around 120-130m while Wii U will likely not even hit 15m. Also, Sony's games division made 6x more profit than Nintendo last quarter.
>>323085992 3DS >Out everywhere but NA >Out in Japan >On Wii U, have fun with 5fps shit >M&S has never been good >Might be alright but nothing to write home about >Will probably be fun with friends
Wii U >Will be good, but we've played it >Improvements have been made going by the new footage, it needed the delay >Looks fun, but Gamepad being required for local play is going to kill this game's scene. A 3D fighter in 2016 should not have this problem >M&S has never been good >It might be too weeb even for me. Granted I don't know much about the combat >Everyone has already become disillusioned with open world games and their emptiness, it's going to take a fucking miracle for people to not feel the same way about the new Zelda
>>323090545 >Looks fun, but Gamepad being required for local play is going to kill this game's scene. A 3D fighter in 2016 should not have this problem How many WiiU's do you know don't have a gamepad? it's kind of required for the console. the 2nd player uses nunchuck-wiimote or classic controller or whatever.
>>323091175 I mean I guess that's it. A lot of jap companies seem to do it, too. Atlus especially. If something sells even 1 million they jizz with happiness.
>yfw the general understanding is that each employee in a dev studio costs you $10k per month >120,000 thousand dollars a year >to be one person on a 50-to-200-man team no wonder EA gets nervous when something doesn't sell at least 10 million.
>>323091024 >What's crazy to me is that Nintendo can apparently make games on such a fucking budget
Nintendo has a teeny weeny marketing budget for their game while compared to other games.
For example, if a AAA company gives a game a $50 million budget, you can guarantee at least $30 million of that is for marketing, whereas if let's say Nintendo were to give a game a $5 million budget they probably wouldn't even set aside a million for marketing,
>>323091024 It did, well maybe not directly after 2 but years before 2009. It was even announced back in 2009. Nintendo just is terrible when it comes to managing production, some titles get dragged on for years and from platform to platform (Pikmin 3 Wii -> 3ds -> wii u) because someone wants to make the game no matter what (most of the times miyamoto and other hogher ups) or gets cancelled after several years of development because nintendo didnt like the final product(Project Hammer).
>>323091573 I've noticed this too. I feel like the only time Nintendo has done a modern-style advertising blitz for a game was Splatoon. >multiple demos to try and raise hype >showed up at every game show and convention >random-ass installations at skate parks and playgrounds and shit >TV ads spammed >online ads spammed >every nintendo shill on the payroll doing their damndest to get something viral and it payed off. Not an established IP, yet it sold very well for being on the death-cage that is the WiiU. And they've kept up with the modern-style of constant DLC, except in keeping with their "good guy nintendo" image, it's all free! because it was all developed ahead of time and simply trickled out to the public
Now, I certainly don't have any vested interest in whether Nintendo is successful or not, but I'd hope whatever stingy old Mr. Miyagi in charge of marketing realized that in order to sell games in this era, you need to commit to the marketing like you're Akagi committing to a gamble.
But watch, Zelda U is gonna get a few trailers, show up at E3, on a Nintendo direct (watched by 120 people tops) and try to rely on nostalgiafags to sell. And it will do even worse than Skyward Sword.
At least Nintendo has reviewers eating out of the palms of their hands, for some reason. I don't know if they're paying them, I think the reviewers are all just geek-chic fags who think they're supposed to LUV NINTENDO OMIGOD, but whatever.
>>323093331 so first player gets wiimote and main TV, second player gets their own screen? What's wrong with that?
also, why can't you just both look at the big screen? DBZ and Naruto games feature weird camera angles with one player far away, and the other with their back to the camera, yet they still function fine. Does the game swap your inputs around because it's mirroring things for 2p?
but still, what's wrong with looking at the gamepad tho
>>323093664 >also, why can't you just both look at the big screen? Wouldn't you be moving around incorrectly if the game is expecting you to be deciding your movements from the gamepad screen's perspective?
>>323093664 Competitive players are extremely picky about everything being on equal footing. They won't like the idea of playing on a smaller, lower quality screen. We'll see though, I'd love for it to get a following, I enjoyed the competitive stuff I've seen from the arcade version.
>>323094087 Those only have one perspective at a time. The tv in Pokken is monitoring Charizard, while the gamepad is monitoring Weavile, if you're playing with the gamepad but deciding your movements based on Charizard, you're going to make the wrong input due to be all Australia'd out.
>Zelda TPHD will probably have a slightly better review score than the original for no motion controls and crisper graphics >Starfox 0 will definitely be 7.5 at best >Pokken will be 6 because no one will understand how it plays >>>M&S >>>>>#FE >>>>>>>>>>>Fed Force >Fates will have good scores >Legends will have an even lower score than HW >Zelda 2016 will be a GOTY contender
>>323094770 >>Pokken will be 6 because no one will understand how it plays >no one knows how to play Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm It's more or less the same game except with light, medium and heavy attacks.
>>323090516 >>Wii U, 10.73 million TOP KACK! I thought it was 12 million?! This is worse than Dreamcast and almost as bad as SEGA FUCKING SATURN's lifetime sales of 9.26 million. Because let's face it, the Pii U is as dead as Iwata.
>>323097545 >Why Nintendo? Because Nintendo are essentially video gaming as much as people want to say otherwise so they expect some new kind of spin on video games and to see their old favourites revived at the same time with not only a huge world to explore but with the cinematics seen on other consoles. It's ridiculous.
>>323098397 >If they bring back even one of their older solid games without the cinematic bullshit I will get a PS4. Come on dude, at least read the post before you shit up the thread. Also Gravity Rush was shit on the Vita and shit will be shit on the PS4.
That seems fucking awful. So it's all well and good. Hope they die out soon and real developers buy off the IPs.
The Wii U stayed alive due to it being a Smash Bros DLC machine, and ironically enough, the people that Sakurai hates the most (tournament players) are the ones that are keeping the game alive, like always.
>>323085992 3DS >Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Good, but it is already out in the other major territories. >Fire Emblem Fates Also good, but it is already out in Japan. >Hyrule Warriors Legends A port with some neat additions, but still a port in the end. >Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games It looks decent, but I'm going in cautiously. I heard they kept the terrible character system from the last 3DS Mario & Sonic game that limited you to around five characters per event. >Box Boy: One More Box It's a neat early year surprise and the original was a pretty cool new game from a company well known to mostly work on one big series nowadays, but it's not going to shake the whole planet. >Metroid Prime: Federation Force We'll see. They really need to show more footage from the game. As of right now, I'm not hyped at all and I'm sure most feel the same. It could end up being fun, but I doubt it will be a landmark title at all.
Wii U >The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD When people talked about this happening over the last few years ideas were quite a bit more ambitious than we got. I'm not really disappointed since I didn't expect too much (especially after the leak hinted it was coming somewhat soon after its announcement), but I do wish that it was bigger than it is. Still, it is pretty much guaranteed to be the definite version of the game, and there could be more changes within the game than we know of right now. >Star Fox Zero I'm a bit disappointed that it's really sticking to the past, but I still think it will at least be an enjoyable and fun game. The delay seems to really have helped this game's quality. My money's on this being like recent blockbuster hits, Jurassic World and especially The Force Awakens. The huge majority enjoys it, but it loses value in how much it plays things safe. Based on this, I expect it to not be a masterpiece but still a great game. (Continued in Part 2)
>#FE >FE Fates >Bravely Second >Zelda U >Twilight Princess HD >Ace Attorney 6 >possibly Pikmin 4 is rumors are true >Project X Zone 2 >Dragon Quest 7 >Dragon Quest 8 Pretty good line up if you ask me. These plus PC lineup is plenty for a year's gaming.
>>323085992 >implying Zelda U isn't the only 2016 game worth a damn I mean I'm probably gonna get SFV eventually and I could see myself being interested in Horizon and Uncharted 4, but Zelda U is the only game that I NEED to play.
>>323094770 >Zelda TPHD will probably have a slightly better review score than the original for no motion controls and crisper graphics I've never seen TP have a bad review because of motion controls. If anything it got higher scores for it because that was literally a Wii launch title.
>>323099121 (Continued from Part 1) >Pokken Tournament I think this will be a solid traditional fighting game with Pokémon with good entertainment value coming from it. I need to see more to really tell if this will be excellent, but things are looking good for this monster melee. >Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games If they're putting in the same level of effort as the 3DS version (and making each character universal across the events) then this might actually be good. >Genei Ibun Roku #FE I'm not really sure. I think it will be at least okay, but I can't really tell yet. Based on what I've heard from Japan, it's definitely nuts and quite outlandlish. It's certainly not what you would expect from Shin Megamo Tensei X Fire Emblem, but if it's good in its own rights then I'll accept it as a good game for what it is. >The Legend of Zelda I'm really hoping this game delivers. I love what little of it we've seen, but then again as I said we haven't seen much of this game. I'm staying optimistic for now, however, and hopefully this will go down in history as the Wii U's great swan song (assuming it's a solo, but that's a different story).
Eh, it's not a totally bad year. It's simply just really meh for now. I know they're about ready for the successor(s) to the Wii U and Nintendo 3DS to finally come out though, so hopefully they're actually preparing to really push it hard and do better in the next generation of video game consoles.
>Pre-ordered. >Pre-ordered. >Still have Wii version lying around, not worth $80. >Played it at Fan Expo, wasn't a fan but I'm waiting for reviews. >Not buying, I'll pony up if it comes to the Wii-U game as DLC. >Hah >Maybe. >Hah >Still gotta beat the original. >Nope. >Likely not. >Maybe.
>>323100261 Actually, to the surprise of many including myself it was a pretty solid game. It's a big jump from Wii Sports and is easily my second favourite game in the Wii series, beaten out only by Nintendo Land. It's not a masterpiece of course, but I actually did find myself enjoying a game in this mostly "meh" series. Besides, there's still 11 other games that anon listed you didn't bring up.
>>323100553 The examples you gave aren't that good since those two developers are among the most likely to be working on the NX. Still, your point is correct. Don't expect too much, but do expect more out out of this year.
>>323097545 Because Nintendo has had a virtual monopoly on the handheld market for decades, and it could be an innovative way to take advantage of their biggest advantage to support their consistently declining share of the stagnant console market.
>>323085992 It's really rather funny. The more Nintendo spirals out of the touch the less it hurts. I loved them growing up but I'd much rather just see all the franchises I used to love die already than see this.
Remember, I think it was last year, that Smash and Mario Kart 8 were part of their Holiday Lineup lists? It's really laughable at this point.
Ideally I'd want them to stop being retarded and stop floundering their franchises, catering the niche ones to said niche audience with quality titles even if they were on a budget, but that obviously won't happen. Nintendo of today is all about pushing the current money maker even if said money maker doesn't earn them insane cash.
I must congratulate Nintendo, though. They've continued to burn so many bridges that if they keep it up they'll be out in the middle of the ocean all by themselves. No consumers or competition. I guess in their fucked up head that's an ideal situation. I'm sure they're surprised by this however. "We keep treating our customers like morons, and even the actual morons are wising up. I don't know what's wron but let's keep doing it and see what happens!"
>>323100261 Yes and? If you didn't like that you can always replace it with Brawl, the Resi 4 remake, Return to Dreamland, DKCR, Prime 3, Sonic Colors, Mario Strikers Charged, Rhythm Heaven. I could go on but you get the point.
>>323101462 Nothing you said has me interested and a real Metroid ever being made again is as unlikely as Ridley being playable in Smash Bros at this point. Not shitting on anyone with that statement, just that I don't see either of those things ever happening. If they announce a proper Metroid that looks good for the NX I'll pick it up eventually after several years.
>>323101721 While that's true, the Wii U sold horribly. There are still morons out there but not enough to keep their consoles afloat.
>>323101734 Pokémon Z is basically confirmed, there's no way they won't have it out by the end of the year Personally unless it's impressive enough to justify the shitshow that was ORAS I doubt I'll be buying it
>>323101484 >We keep treating our customers like morons Aside from the whole Amiibo thing they're treating the customers better than most other companies for the most part considering they aren't doing absurd DLC/season pass deals and paid online. However with the way the gaming market is going it's only a matter of time before they buckle down and start producing graphically impressive games at the cost of actual substance in gameplay like other developers and companies like Sony and Microsoft.
After that, it'll be the end because it isn't what people expect from them from both sides. The Nintendrones won't purchase their games because they aren't games anymore and the casual audience won't buy it because their image is still associated with simple children's games to them.
It's a real shame that the gaming industry is such a far cry from real video games nowadays. Everyone is just trying to lump it in with simple music and movies.
>>323101919 >There are still morons out there but not enough to keep their consoles afloat. You say that but their whole weak console thing ensures they don't waste money on it. They don't need to sell as much to get a profit on their systems.
>>323102856 If Nintendo aren't showing NX this e3 their show is going to be empty as fuck. Sure, I'm hyped for Zelda U and seeing footage of it might be the best thing at e3, but that's all they got now.
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