Graphics Cards...which one???

>>323081868
Mai and sapphire are pretty reliable and brand I wouldn't know about Nvidia. If you're willing to spend 700$ might as well skip 390x and get a fury. The performance increase from 390 to 390x isn't huge either.

>>323081868
msi are reliable.

>>323082281
so all that stuff about AMD/MSI having generic drivers and tend to suffer driver corruption more often is marketing BS?

i would go for the fury but its $1100

would graphics cards be cheaper in say thailand ?

Great I'm about to transition
I looking into buying a r9 390
Is any of the nvidia shilling real?
Will I constantly be fucked on driver updates and games not being optimized for it? Also is the power hungry shit real? Will my electric bill be crazy the month I start using this shit?
Nvidia posters please don't, I already gave your company shekels

>>323083036
980ti>Fury X

on the high end, NVIDIA has been cleaning house the past few years. Also, do a ton of research for yourself for such a big purchase, faggot

check if they have an extended warranty.
there are cards with 5 years warranty, my previuos even had a lifetime one

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>>323083036
The bad amd drivers is a meme, I switched to amd a few years ago and I haven't had a problems. And fury are less then 700

>>323081868
>MSI R9 390X
I'd recommend to get a Sapphire instead of the MSI as it's not quite as loud. Would also recommend to just get a 390 and OC it a bit as the X isn't worth the 100$ price increase.

>>323083576
Not if you live in Australia

>>323081868
>$500-700Max
Then you already win. You can get the best card in any consumer class. I suggest 980ti. It should last you for quite some time. The micro stutter is annoying though.

>>323081868
Definitely keep the 680 until the new GPUs come out in a few months.
It's very likely that the new architecture and finfet will destroy the current cards in terms of efficiency.

>gtx680 stuggled to run far cry 3.
I find that rather hard to believe.
Unless you mean "everything on ultra at 120fps".

>>323084263
micro stutter? the 980ti is like the fury both over $1000. out of price range

I'd suggest you wait a few months for Polaris/Pascal

Is the 390 good for 1440p?

>>323084430
Oh. Which country are you in? 980ti is like $600 here.

>>323084330
sorry meant far cry 4.

is that actually happening though (new GPU's or is it just a rumor)

>>323084586
Australia

>>323084430
If you're using kangaroo bucks then just go for a 970 or 390 the jump in price for a 390x isn't worth it unless you find a good deal.

>>323084556
but if its their new flagship wont it be way over my budget

>>323084572
Depends on the price.
I think neither the 970 nor the 390 is worth more than 300€.
Got my 3,5GB card for 270€, which was a very good price, but I'm probably going to sell it for a new one shortly before the new cards arrive.

>>323084609
We've known for quite some time now that FinFET is coming and there will be new GPUs in Q2/summer.
The technology has also been talked about at the current CES.

Question, I also have a GTX 680 and plan on upgrading eventually. What the fuck do I do it?

>>323084994
You upgrade eventually.

>>323084728
then yeah, 390x is a fantastic card. It's no 980ti but if you're playing at 1080p/60hz I doubt it even matters.

>>323085070
i want to get a ASUS PG278Q ROG Swift Gaming Monitor sometime this year as well

>>323084994
If you can buy a Fury/GTX 980TI you wait.
If you're looking at R9 380/GTX 970 you buy now

So when Polaris/Pascal are released will 970/980 Ri 390x become obsolete?

>>323085292
There are certain games that you can hit 144fps in, even maxed (borderlands comes to mind). You should be able to go well above 60 in most cases though.

>>323085045
>>323085401
No I mean what do I do with my 680?

is there much difference btw the 980 and 980ti?

>>323088276
yes, 980 is a bad price/performance now especially compared to ti which is actually a better card than the titan X because of custom PCBs and coolers

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I have a 380.

What can't I do?

>>323088009
Uh... what...?

>>323085292
you cant use ulmb strobing at the same time as g-sync. strobing is a huge deal, on the same level as going from 60 to 144. all while the importance of v-sync diminishes as frametimes get shorter at high refresh rates.

>>323088965
so getting the 390x would be a waste of money, just save up for 980ti?

>>323088481
If you wanted more performance, you should've get something better instead. Just wait until there are new cards released and maybe prices are better then

>>323089179
ati scale better at higher resolution but you basically need a grossly powerful card to play at >100fps in 1440p unless you dont mind knocking down settings a notch, which you should because res + fps > graphics

>>323089382
tf2 hits 60 fps most of the time

its probably the most graphically intensive game I play

im a big fan of dungeon crawlers, and they dont take too much to look nice

Is there any point in going above 60 fps if your monitor is only 60hz?

Sapphire is the best brand for AMD cards.

>>323088009
Oh. That's the beauty of upgrading on PC. Every time you do so, you sell the old part on ebay which helps soften the blow to the wallet, sometimes substantially.

>>323088489
I have a 680, once I upgrade to another card, WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO WITH IT?

>come into thread on /v/ about video cards
>expect the usual AMD hatred
>it's surprisingly civilized

The fuck? Have Nvidia finally retracted their marketing arm from /v/'s asshole?

>>323089873
You can't. So no.

>>323089978
What kind of stupid question is this?

>>323089978
Are you retarded? Sell it, or give it to a friend, or donate it, or make a spaceheater with it

970 or a 290x?

Going to get one in the next week.

>>323089925
Would people want to buy a card without the box and all the junk that comes with it?

>>323088481
Me too, bought it a month ago because I don't have the budget for better cards but now I feel it's a waste of money.

>>323081868
>my GTX680 struggled to run Far Cry 3

m8, I ran Far Cry 3 on a GTX 460 and I got 40-50fps on med/high.
Don't get a R9 390, it's a re-branded version of the 290. Either get an R9 Fury or a 980ti.
Or you can wait until Nvidia's Pascal cards are released, which is probably some time this spring.

>>323090526
They haven't even announced them yet, it's gonna be a while

Next Winter at the earliest

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>>323081868
>>323084609

>GTX 680 struggled to run FarCry 4

It was one of the recommended cards to run it on high (and some things on ultra)

>>323090376
People buy anything on ebay. You will probably make a bit less though. You could always repackage it into the box of the new card but, at the very least, you should use the anti static bag to ship it in. You'll know what bag I mean when you open your new card.

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>tfw the R7-370 (rebadged 7850) literally costs more than what I bought my 7870 for 3 years ago in australia

SEND HELP

SEND HELP

SEND HELP

>>323081868
Honestly you should just wait like a year to see what comes out as 4k starts to become the standard. If you're set on buying one now I'd recommend the 980ti. AMD and Nvidia both have their issues but in my experience Nvidia has been better.

use logical increments.

>>323090660
>of the recommended cards to run it on hi
its was mostly black when i started playing, scaled back still occasionally froze

will the Nvidia's Pascal make the 980ti redundant?

>>323081868
lol you fell for the hype anon there is only a few very badly optomized games that are out that wont run fine on a 6 year old card.

>>323090058
Honestly it's all about your experience, setup and expectations which decides where you should go for a GPU. For me, AMD is never happening again. It's great for mid~high-end but if you're building something to push the limits of high res/refresh rate/surround setups... AMD has issues in all of those areas.

I ran two 290X on blocks due to the disgusting heat output. Even on liquid - Zero overclock capability. I also bought these cards early on at $550 a piece, upgrading from two GTX 770s which were just shy of performing in a 5760x1080 setup.

AMDs EyeFinity is a fucking nightmare. I had to run all these third party patches to get the games working and even then half of them were glitchy, performed horribly and just otherwise a bad experience.

Then you have the current market - Which this is to no fault on AMD but it's reality. Goyimworks is everywhere. So many games today favor NVidia hardware you're almost cheating yourself out of a good experience by going AMD which sucks. Even prior to that, there are a lot of game engines which don't like AMD hardware. CryEngine is a prime example, Unreal 3 isn't a red team friend either.

I don't think AMD is a bad company in any way, they simply are being pushed out of the market. Which again - Nvidia fanboys IS NOT a good thing. Maybe this samsung deal they're getting into will help, fuck if I know. It'd take a lot to convince me to try them again with the way things stand today though.

>>323089841
My bad, I read that as "what CAN I do"

I have a 380X that I got for cheap and I'm pretty happy with it (old card was a 4670). I don't even care that much about graphics, its great for me as long as the game runs good at med+ settings, and like for you there's no point in spending on power that you're not going to need

>>323084609
Pascal (the new architecture) will be released some time in 2016. Maybe this spring, but more probably in the summer/early fall.
Your GTX 680 will hold up just fine, Far Cry 4 is an unoptimized piece of shit, don't take it as an indication that your card is obsolete.

Pascal when?

>>323091207
Yeah, I admit I've never done anything like that. I'm just a simple single-monitor, single-GPU pleb. And for that, I've never had a single issue with AMD since I bought my card in 2012. Their drivers have been rock stable for me.

>>323091207

current set up
CPU: Xeon e3 1230V2
MB: Asus P8Z77 V LK
GTX: Gig 680 2Gb PICE
PS: ANTEC Earthwatts 750

>>323090614
Nvidias schedule reports say pascal is Q2 2016. So... We're close. There's bits and pieces of info floating around already but nothing concrete as to what specs will be.

>>323091140
>will the Nvidia's Pascal make the 980ti redundant?

Yes, absolutely. Pascal will introduce new memory similar to the type we see on AMDs R9 Fury's.
They're talking of the high-end models having 32Gb of memory, with 16, 12, and 8gb being other options for the cards a step down.

>>323091207
>so lets just support the end of computer games.

I wont buy nvidia on principle alone. fuckers are ruining pc gaming.

>>323091436
AMDs drivers are significantly better than Nvidia's these days. I blame Nvidia's rapid-release of drivers, throwing them out for every AAA game release.
It's ironic, AMD used to have shit drivers and Nvidia burned houses down, today it's the opposite.

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Thinking about buying "Sapphire 11244-01-20G Radeon NITRO R9 390 8GB GDDR5 DVI-D/HDMI with Back Plate (UEFI) Graphics Card"
I have pic related as a set up, will any of it limit this card?

>>323091261
>Nvidia's these days. I blame Nvidia's rapid-release of drivers, throwing them out for every AAA game release.
>It's ironic, AMD used to have shit drivers and Nvidia burned house


so by new architecture you mean it wont be a new GPU card that gets released that still years away?

could i run just cause 3 on my 680?

>>323091786
Not to mention if the game has gimpworks in it, it affects thier older cards much more than older ati cards.

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>>323091436
I feel that anon, for a modest mid~high end setup I'm sure it's fine. And mind you - This always was AMDs target market so it's not surprising. They're not trying to push the extreme enthusiast letter where NVidia is which obviously is a minority.

I think another big push AMD needs to get on is game streaming. I picked up a shield to throw on my TV... Holy shit is that the best $200 I ever spent. All my gamepad friendly games, and couch co-ops in the living room @ 4k 60fps without buying a second rig.

I'd like to see some more big pushes from AMD to get back on the map, there's just so much more Nvidia is doing in the industry other than flagship GPUs.

Pic related is my current build. Waitin on dat pascal.

>>323091734
>End of computer games
Are you literally autistic? NVidia is the pioneer of almost every major technological advance in games in the past several years. TreesFX was a joke. Goyimworks is a dick move but the results are amazing.

They're hands on with tons of devs bringing their technology into games. I agree I wish they'd play nice with their competitor but from a business stand point it makes sense. Are you going to go boycott the PS4 for not sharing it's baller exclusive line-up with PC and Xbone? No, of course you're not you little retard.

If you had said on principle being that they're strong arming market control - You'd be in the right. But 'ruining pc gaming'? Yeah, no. You've gone full fan boy and you don't even know how to define your reasons for doing so.

>>323092136
lets get to the base of this argument though. is it worth it to pay 2-3 hundred dollars more for a high end card when AAA devs only make console ports? This will only show any improvent on badly optomized games. Or gimpworks infested shit. unlesss you are some weirdo with 3 screens and a $3000 dollar rig.

>>323092674
>having multimonitor makes you a "weirdo"

Is this what consolepoors tell themselves so they can sleep at night?

>>323092631
faggot its called graphical bloat. God rays is just a layer of high contrast that you have to squint to see through that removes layers of it to simulate god rays its not something you want. Hairworks uses waaay too much power for what it is. Its a scam and you fell for it.

>>323092807
for what purpose would you need 3 screens? so you can play dem battlefields and by basically using a fov cheat?

>>323092960
and cheat*

My cousin has a Radeon HD 6870.
I know it's older, but my friend built a new PC and gave me his old one, it just needs a graphics card. I'll get a better one later, I just need one for a bit while I save up.


I'm just wondering about how much it's worth now. He told me he wanted $80 because he's a cheap fuck, but realistically what should I pay for it?

>>323093116
dont pay more than $50 bucks for it.

>>323092960
>trying to equate extra immersiveness to "cheating"

Is this what consolepoors tell themselves so they can sleep at night?

>>323092016
No, their new architecture is coming out this year. Nvidia usually release in the spring/early summer, sometimes autumn.

>>323093242
I've owned a computer instead of a console since snes. its just not worth the money. I dont care how rich you are . spend that extra 2200 dollars on a great stereo or something.

>>323084064
$500-700 USD is like - $1650 AUS

Fresh cards are set for Q1 or Q2 though which would be a much more thrifty purchase.

>14/16nm GPUs finally coming

I've waiting 5 long years for this. Goodbye 28nm you decrepit old dinosaur.

Pascal and Polaris are going to be big.

>>323093204
Alright, thanks man.

>>323093416
>I've owned a computer instead of a console since snes. its just not worth the money.

Sure you did.

>>323093442
for what though there are no games that need anything close to it and there wont be for a long time you are going to have to wait for consoles to catch up.

>>323093416
You type like you have shit for a brain so I'm not surprised you don't see the value in something so tangible.

>>323093558
faggot.

>>323081868
don't go AMD
NVidia literally pays to have games optimized for their cards

get a 750 TI or 980 TI if you want a decent card

also MSI=Pretty gud
had two of their cards for a while, no issues

>>323093668
I'm the one whos stupid when you drop a fuck ton of money just to play console ports with slightly better hair and way too much contrast.
one day you'll see your mistake just like I did when I upgraded this computer 4 years ago.

>>323091989
Should be good anon, just make sure you have enough space in your tower.

Also get used to extremely spaced driver updates from AMD.

>>323093776
no they pay to get their grubby little hands into development and bloat the fuck out of them so people think its justifiable to buy their newest 700 dollar cards.

>>323093886
>Doesn't go full into their hobby
Anon, do you have any joy in your life? I have more money than I can spend even with putting half my salary into savings. What the fuck else do you do with money if not indulge for yourself, friends and family?

>>323093621
There are so many things wrong with your post I don't even know where to begin.

First, learn how to write you barely literate troglodyte.

>there are no games that need anything close to it

I hope you don't actually think you're maxing games out at 120fps with a fucking 960/380.

>you are going to have to wait for consoles to catch up.

No I'm not. I'll be running games at higher resolutions, framerates and with better textures/draw distances.

And finally, performance isn't the only advantage of the new cards. Stay retarded, kid.

>>323093886
Only made it a few words into your post before I stopped reading, learn how to write you neanderthal. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>323092136
AMD needs to drop their terrible CPU's and just make GPU's, nvidia dominates the market and they don't make CPU's, because it's stupid and they know what to concentrate on.

Doesn't Intel have like 90 percent of the market on CPU's?

>>323094114
The games are exactly the same and this is a shit hobby kid.

>>323094121
120 fps is not necessary. 60 fps should be the standard but right now shit consoles have made 30 fps the standard. also there's literally nothing wrong with that writing I think you have reading comprehension problems I can see how you fall for the hype so hard.

How much cheaper will 980ti will get when the new tech batch gets released?

>>323093890
The gtx 580 is long as shit and I still have 4 inches left lengthwise
Might push my sound card out of the way but who cares I guess
Thanks anon, I fucking hate driver updates every time a new game comes out
That might be a bad thing but whatever I'm not playing the newest games anyways, just want to play my current games on ultra
since we're on this topic is upgrading to "Sapphire Radeon NITRO R9 390 8GB GDDR5 DVI-D / HDMI / TRIPLE DP Tri-X OC Version (UEFI) PCI-E Graphics Card 11244-00-20G" for $50 more dollars worth it? I'm going to stick to one monitor

>>323094396
>120 fps is not necessary.

Playing games isn't necessary either. It's a nice luxury.

Stay poor.

>also there's literally nothing wrong with that writing

Okay, Rajesh.

>>323094238
>please make a monopoly I love getting dicks in my ass.

>>323094510
youre paying way too much money for a simple thing like fps. just a few years ago computers were a whole different arena from consoles but now the devs just make console ports.

>>323081868
>needing a $500+ card to play JC3
this isn't true, is it?

>>323094510
seriously though I could read it fine, you may just be stupid.
>>323094692
nah I run it fine on an HD7850

>>323094692
You could play JC3 reasonably well on a $200~ card.

But if you want ultra w/ MSAA and shit consistent 60fps, then yes you'd probably need like a 980.

>>323094396
>Your console shit is totally the same as my 400+mods
Yeah uh, you keep telling yourself that bud.

>120 fps is not necessary
Neither is 60, but it's better. Just as 120 is better than 60, 144 better than 120, 165 better than 144... Welcome to technology. I suppose 4k isn't necessary either? But holy shit does it look good.

>>323094808
lies.

>>323094892
I have a 6 year old computer that runs everything fine except gimpworks games. Also do whatever you want just dont try to tell other people its worth it.

>>323094746
>it fine on an HD7850
ok cool I have an OC 7870 and haven't had a problem with a game yet

>>323094638
You're paying way too much money for a simple thing like video games. Go outside and play with a ball instead.

>>323094746
I can read it fine too, I choose not to. Anyone who writes at such a low level doesn't have an opinion worth acknowledging.

>>323094904
Yeah, looking at benchmarks it doesn't take much to run. I take it back.

I was foolishly basing my comment of of GTA V's performance. I can't get a CONSISTENT 60 fps on ultra settings with MSAA turned all the way up with a 980 ti.

>>323092960
It's a productivity thing. "Gaming" PCs aren't just for gaming, you know.

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>>323083138
>Is any of the nvidia shilling real?
You tell me. The 390 is fine

>>323095353
way to be as bad as them
I was asking if the shit they give amd is real

>>323095558
>way to be as bad as them
How, exactly? Of course is not real, just do your own research, most of people who have problems with AMD drivers are retards who doesn't know how to use DDU or simply don't have the habit of monitoring their rigs, they would have the same problems if they had Nvidia cards

>>323095045
thats a great card man, you wont have to upgrade until MAYBE the next gen of consoles.
>>323095178
look I like games just as much as you I just dont fall for the nvidia hype. They have been pulling this shit since physx was proprietary. Also he had a valid point youre being a baby.
>>323095208
you really think your graphics card is going to help you do more work?
>>323095206
I can run GTAV on Ultra with 60 frames solid by just turning down shadows. There's a reason they have individual settings for computer games.

This is all I got for this thread hope you guys dont act like noobs and pay out the ass for nvidias shenanigans on the market,

>>323084856
Prices will drop for old cards. The 970/980 is almost 1.5 years old.

>>323095773
Anyone can get 60 frames if they turn down settings, Anon.

>>323095773
I own an AMD card, retard. Nice try at strawmanning though.

Learn how to write dumb shitskin.

>>323095206
>I can't get a CONSISTENT 60 fps on ultra settings with MSAA turned all the way up with a 980 ti.
No one can, I think you would need a 3-way SLI to maximize everything in GTA V @1080p 60fps

>>323081868
>$500
>On a graphics card

And I thought console faggots were bad.

>>323081868
Just get a GTX 980 then play basically anything /thread.

>>323095558
NVidia fag here
kinda but not as bad as most make it out to be
AMD cards are ok after a few optimization patches and usually run about as well

>>323081868
a 680 should not struggle to run Far Cry 3

>>323095896
Not him, but GTA V is a CPU hog, too, a Haswell i5 can bottleneck a high end GPU inside the city

>>323091630
It's better than Fury's, Fury is HBM1 while Pascal is HBM2 which is supposedly a huge difference

Should I upgrade my gtx670? It runs games fairly well still but I'm afraid it'll start not running everything soon.

>>323081868

Unless you absolutely need a new card right now I would wait a few months for the new Pascal/Greenland cards that'll probably see a significant performance boost over what's on the market now.

>>323094509
anyone have insight on this?
is the overclocked version worth it?

>>323096174
You really can't completely max out GTA V with a consistent 60 fps without a MONTROUS setup. The MSAA is the killer.

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How's my poorfag build looking?

>>323081868
dont do it. Do what I did. I bought a decent ati card. and then used the money I saved to buy a PS4 for all the bullshit goyimworks games. problem solved.

>>323096420
Do whatever the fuck you want nigga you're a grown ass man

>>323093416
>Wasting mad cash on a fucking stereo
Top kek m80

>>323096661
drop the ssd, get a 390

Jesus man spend more on your cpu. people who know what their doing buy a cpu they wont need to upgrade for 6-8 years.

>>323096936
this was meant for
>>323096661

>>323096936
My budget is a hard 1000, if I get an i5 my video card will be a piece of shit

>>323096853
Can't, 390's are at least $500 here

>>323096936
>8 years with the same CPU
Show me a CPU from 2008 that can run current games/applications well, also that i3 is fine for a cheap build

>>323097295
Q6600.

>>323097237
What about the 380x?

>>323096661
>>323096853
seriously get an ssd later and use that money on an i5 or better gpu

>>323097237
reuse some parts from your old computer maybe. Also drop the ssd.

>>323097295
i5 2500k

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>>323097516
don't have one, I've been a cucksole for a while

>>323097472
>>323097424
yeah not gonna happen

i5 + 380 is good I suppose?

>>323081868
I can play Just Cause 3 on high with a 960 desu senpai

>>323097616
>2500k
2011

>>323097295
dont give advice if you dont know shit man. What an asshole.

>>323096661
that CPU isn't worth it
get something with an LGA 1150 socket and DDR3 compatibility and slice shitloads of money off your build seeing as DDR4 is no more than a meme and has no benefit (with video games) at this point in time

actually, dont bother with an i3, get an AMD FX if you're going cheap then upgrade to an i7 later and eventually a bard compatable with DDR4 when performance differences become noticeable

>>323097683
its obvious you dont want advice so just stfu.

>>323097784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSU0UWFCa1Y

>>323097784
Shut the fuck up you retarded dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSU0UWFCa1Y

i3-6100 is fine for gaming on a budget.

Don't ever post in a PC gaming thread again, maggot.

>>323097934
>>323097935
damn...

>>323097849
you go as expensive as possible on the cpu because it will allow you to upgrade for a much longer time..

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>>323097849
>a bard compatable with DDR4
>a bard
>compatible with DDR4
what

>>323083036
Technically, Nvidia cards will usually work right out of the gate when a new game comes out. Or an update will be out very shortly after. Nvidia is a much bigger company after all.

AMD on the other hand usually takes a while to come out with a driver fix, which I suspect is where the "nodriverslol" meme comes from.

The main difference though, and this is something that's been gaining a lot of light recently, is that AMD tends to stick with their products longer. And Nvidia, for lack of a better term, has been jewing its customers in recent years.
While AMD will make sure its graphics cards will become more refined update after update. Their older cards function better now than ever.
Whereas Nvidia is purposely crippling the performance of its older cards in a jewish way of making customers buy new cards.

That and that whole 3.5 scandal really fucked over a lot of customers. I like Nvidia because it seems like a big name of quality products, but after that shitshow late last year, it makes me rather sad that a big company would do that.

>>323097905
>>323097784
Samefagging retard who knows nothing about PC hardware and just got fucking BTFO.

Get out of this thread and kill yourself.

>>323097935
says the asshole whos never buit a computer before in his life.

>>323098213
Shut the fuck up and kill yourself retard. Nobody is taking you seriously anymore.

>>323098115
>being this buttblasted that you don't have a court bard to write ballads about RAM
wew

>>323098178
lies.
>>323098192
I've been selling computers for the last 15 years kiddo. you console converts build your first computer and think you're experts. Pathetic.

>>323098213
You also type like a fucking Indian lmao. I doubt you could even afford PC parts so fuck off outta this thread mongoloid.

>>323095773
>you really think your graphics card is going to help you do more work?
That would depend on your work. You were talking about multiple monitors though. That's a productivity thing, anon.

>>323098480
Asks for advice but doesnt want any. Why dont you start a battlestation thread you faggot.

>>323097753
Oh. My PC feels older than it is I guess. Still no problems with this CPU though, my Radeon HD6990 is bottlenecking though.

>>323098465
There's no use even trying to save face, you've been utterly obliterated. You also failed to respond to objective information put right under your nose and started ranting on about your own worthless anecdotal fucking nonsense because that's how pathetic and wrecked you are.

Again, fuck off and kill yourself. Go spread your misinformation on reddit, dog.

>>323084556
>a few months
Let's be honest here, there's no way it's a few months out. We're looking at a June/July release and probably even longer for the availability to be anywhere near decent.

>>323096004
It's AUS dollars, not USD. It's like $350 USD.

>>323098504
I have 2 monitors myself I just didnt build my computer around a bullshit crossfire setup.

>>323098639
you talk like a child. Nvidiots everyone.

>>323090482
how did I feel like a waste?
what games were your trying to run?

>>323081868
I'm a poorfag so I can't justify dropping 500+ bones on a video card.
8gb of VRAM is retarded overkill too; great if you want to future-proof your setup for a few years though.
2-4gb and you are fine on MOST games.

I'm running a r9 280x (basically a rebranded 7970 if I remember right?)
And can run everything on max/ultra except for fallout 4 and GTA5.
It was only 275 when I got it and it will easily last me into 2018 unless it tanks on me before hand.

>>323098075
in terms of cheap tho
AMD compatable board (AM3+):
>Low as $50 in some places

Decent AMD CPU:
>roughly $200

whereas
Intel compatable board (LGA 1150):
>$50

(LGA1151)
>$90

Decent intel CPU (LGA 1150):
>$250 (for the low end version)

very good intel CPU (LGA 1151):
>$400

AMD is cheapest in general but as expected not a high end processor, but works great for games

you have to remember you're not building some high end server/workstation and don't need hyperthreading but it will futureproof you (kind of) to get an intell

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>>323098832
>this damage control

I don't even have a Nvidia card. Stay wrecked, dog.

You also type like you have steel rebar lodged in the crusty piece of literal dog shit you call your brain, so don't ever again comment on anyone else's writing.

>>323098868
he's just shilling for nvidia.

>>323096661
like a big waste of money, i3 is garbage, and you should get rid of ssd and put the money into a better gpu or cpu

>>323099193
what do you use this for?

>>323099050
I spent $600 dollars on the motherboard and cpu 6 years ago and I wont need to upgrade for another generation or two of consoles. If you only have to upgrade the video card its much cheaper to stay on the high end.

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>>323099193
Why didn't you shell out the extra dosh for the overclockable version?

>>323099212
>I cant think of any responses so I'll just say he doesnt use enough punctuation spew all the memes I picked up on /v/.

>>323099348
vidya
video processing
wow private server development testing
various temporary servers

>>323099504
I'm a cheap asshole

>>323095028
>Don't tell other people it's worth it just because I don't like it!
>I'll tell other people it's not worth it because I don't like it!

Wow, you're just the sharpest tool in the shed ain't ya?

>>323099615
and*

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>>323099193
>>323099504
>non matching monitors

>>323099715
I'm telling people to do the smart thing from experience, you are telling people what to do because you built 1 computer and all of a sudden you think your an expert.

>>323099753
honestly I just stuck them together for more workspace, most of them were second hand or from previous builds (sans the benq)

>>323099504
>>323099193
>SCSI
I didn't even know motherboards still used this shit.

>>323099434
fair enough point
although I still have an old Phenom II x6 running a home (debian) server and it pulls it's weight but I don't know if it'd hold up in vidya

>>323100009
what if I told you I had a floppy drive using IDE running on it up until a few weeks ago?

>>323099615
>>323099728
You're the one who still hasn't responded to facts are spewing your worthless, misinforming opinion.

You sound like you have dementia too. What a wreck of a human you must be.

>>323100093
video games are getting pretty heavy on the cpu because of gimpworks and un-optimized console ports. releases from the begining of the year barely used either my cpu or my video card. Nvidia is pissing me off.
>>323100289
what facts kiddo?

>>323100093
I'm still running a Phenom II X4 955 BE and I don't have problems with the newest games.
Witcher 3 on med settings runs at 30-45fps.
Fallout 4 on high runs at 40-60
MGSV on high/very high runs at 50-60

This is on a 2GB GTX 760.

>>323100494
>Nvidia is pissing me off.
what does that have to do with nvidia?

>>323100676
>Phenom II X4 955 BE
Nice fucking CPU, man, I had one until May 2015. I was having problems when GTAV came out and bought an i5. Do you use the stock cooler? That shit was LOUD

>>323100715
they made gimpworks and are paying money to put the shit into new releases to bloat the graphics for their own novelty tech and to trick dipshits into buying their newest overpriced garbage. Its physx all over again.

>>323097935
That video proved yourself wrong

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>>323100981
>tfw nvidia killed the best video cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALtCroSwZzs

>>323101481
muh nigga. that thing was a beast.

>>323100975
I used the stock cooler for about a month before I decided to give in an buy a Hyper 212.
Before that I removed the side panel from my case and put a desk fan next to it to keep it quiet, and it worked.

>>323100676
Bull. I had a 965 black @ 3.8 up till the launch of fallout 4, played that game a bit on it and didn't get shit near 40-60 fps on high. And that was with the fury from my new system in it just to see.

>>323103352
I only get 60 outside of Boston, but even in Boston it doesn't go below 35.
Sorry, my post should have said 35-60.
I pull down shadow quality and did some ini tweaks to improve my frame rate.

>>323081868
The Msi R9 are some of the best you can get. 390x or not. I have a Msi R9 390 8g its awesome. On the same budget you can get a GTX 980 or 980ti. Gtx 980ti 6gb would be the best but more expensive.

>>323096661
Get an i5, get at a 390 or 970, get a better psu. That thing is the fucking heart of your system, and everyone always likes to skimp on it for some reason.

>>323099848
>One computer
Sure bud. Not like I run a NAS for my production projects and a few other workstations.

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Only thing that's beginning to show its age is my MB and RAM. I could do with a newer CPU, but the performance gain isn't worth a few hundred bucks.

I'm waiting to see what the next generation of CPUs shows. Not looking forward to DDR4, though.

>>323098178
>which I suspect is where the "nodriverslol" meme comes from
fucking newfags man
i bet you were surprised when you found out they used to be ATI

>>323088009
Or build your sibling a an outdated gaming machine for a present

>>323097237
I have a 2gb gtx 960. It's a good ass card, I got it for 220$

you could get two.

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>>323104219

>>323081868
EVGA, hand down best support, plus you can get even better cards for cheap from the refurb section.

>>323104672
That is the face of a man who loves his job

>>323104718
they are the absolute worst support you can get take it from a hardware re seller. I stopped carrying their products because of all the shit I had to deal with. let me guess you had to RMA something? thats not customer support that damage control.

Thinking of upgrading my sapphire r9 290 to the r9 390x over the coming months. Considering I only intend to play on one monitor at 1080p is it worth the cost? Going to wait for the Pascal cards to drop in price before I pick one up

>>323104901
That's all you'll need to do. Are you retarded and not know how to use a GPU or something?

>>323095353
Top fucking kek

Nobody gonna believe me but I'm the one guy that posted that shit all over

It's because I've seen it around here 2 or 3 times and got mad about the (assumed) shilling so I posted it like fifty times or something

Good times

>>323104919
The 390x will more than likely keep you going for about 3 to 5 years if you keep that setup.

>>323097935
I can't handle all this salt

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>>323105048
are you fucking retarded or something? Selling computers that break all the time is bad for business. Who gives a shit if they have great customer support. you shouldnt have to return anything except on very rare occasions.

>>323096661
Poorfag? Get the fuck out of here. Spoiled children, I swear.

>>323105174
Do you know what the power consumption and stock cooler is like with it? Considering getting a 750w PSU along with an i5 4690k to keep me ticking over nicely

>>323105048
>>323105289
you both have a point
good customer support and being able to offer quick RMAs is, in fact, great customer service

but the cards shouldn't be breaking in the first place as well

>>323105575
you can rma pretty much anything quickly though.
EVGA just makes garbage.

>>323105502
Couldn't tell you on that one. I got a 290X reference design to water cool. I'm running that on a 7 year old 750W PSU that shows no signs of stopping. I occasionally get power dips that cause some fuckups, but if you can get a GOOD 750W+ PSU, you should be fine.

Stock coolers do an alright job, but really aren't designed for sustained play.

>>323105762
the ability to RMA isn't what i'm talking about, it's the simplicity of the process and speed of it is the point i'm making

>>323104919
There is not a great performance difference between the 290 and 390x. I don't know many who would say it's worth the retail cost to upgrade. Perhaps if you find one on sale/used, and you have a good buyer for your 290.

>>323098178

This post reeks of newfag. I mean, holy shit, you actually take the GPU shitposter drivel seriously. Not to mention being dead wrong about company trends. They're both terrible companies that constantly fuck over their customers, but for very distinctly different reasons.

AMD is slow as shit about everything and has typically dominated the budget market because it's a fucking huge company you nitwit. Their resources are split between both CPU and GPU development which has stalled many of their plans for years. Having issues with fabrication factories doesn't help either since AMD foolishly bought up a bunch of them and did practically nothing with them for a long time.

Nvidia on the other hand is solely focused on GPU development and it shows in their release & development structure. Aim for the highest performance possible and say fuck you to any kind of cost consideration. The supposed "crippling" of older cards isn't an actual sabotage you idiot, it's a result of them always pushing too fast for the next stage. Which is still an asshole move, but the shitposters have mislead you big time.

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On the topic of cards, what's the oldest one you still have lying around?

Still got my old HD3850 512MB

>>323106083
youre talking about the pre pay rma where you basically buy a new part then they refund you? That was the last straw for me they tried to say they already refunded me when they hadnt I just called the bank told them it was a fictitious charge after the third try to get it resolved and thats when I stopped carrying their shit. Shady assholes.

>>323106537
I still have an old Geforce 4 sitting around somewhere. I think that bad boy had about 64MB of VRAM.

>>323106137
not that guy but the gimpworks stuggle is real. dont beleive me disable gimpworks "features" in ini for fo4 bam double the fps if you have an older nvidia card.

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>Year ago
>/v/ shits on every poster who even mentions AMD cards
>Current year
>The first thing /v/ recommends in every GPU thread is always either an R9 380 or 390

>>323106606
you can do that with any company buy the way you just buy the new part and return the old one.

>>323106961
experience anon.

>>323106961

Today is a terrible time to buy a GPU, but if you really need to get something, might as well not get jew'd.

>>323106961
GTX970 owners are three and a half times more likely to recommend getting an AMD card.

>>323106961
Unless you're going multi-monitor at 1440p, the hardware has pretty much outpaced the games. Might as well get the cheapest option that works.
That's where AMD comes in.

>>323106537
I think I still have a voodoo 3 3000 I think it was.

>>323106817

I never denied that gameworks is shit for older video cards. I'm just pointing out that retards are calling it sabotage when in fact it's just Nvidia moving on a faster development scale than it should be.

It's like driving and older car and then complaining that the car manufacturer somehow retroactively gimped its MPG once a newer more efficient model comes out. For fucks sake, it's completely illogical.

Be angry that Nvidia doesn't like to spend extra development time on old GPU efficiency, but don't call it sabotage.

>>323106537
I've kept my 8800, because that was the first card I bought myself. Also have a voodoo in my pentium 75 rig.

>>323107492
no its sabotage and you know why? it bloats the games graphics immensely for the benefit of only a few and to the detriment of everyone else including amd owners. They need to stick to hardware manufacturing and devs need to stop letting a hw manufacturer fuck up their games. Its the main reason AAA devs just said fuck pc and went to consoles. Its actually ruining pc gaming.

wait for pascal, fuckface.

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>>323107492

Gameworks isn't about " moving on a faster development scale" it's about screwing over competition.

>>323108265
it actually has more of an impact on their own older cards. AMD's older cards arent affected as much but the games still run like garbage on anything but the newest Nvidia card.

>>323108401

Yeah, but I think that's just a side effect of their attempt to fuck over AMD and Intel.

>>323108553
AMD just outsmarted them with AMD optomized settings. They fully intended to make amd worthless I'm sure. Based AMD saved our asses though.

>>323108553
they are trying their hardest to make some console ports exclusives to nvidia only and thats just pants on head retarded.