>>323076774 You have to pay a subscription so you can use your own internet connection to host laggy p2p games. Either that, or you'll have to miss out on big chunks of the games you paid full price for.
Well worth it. Especially if you didn't have a ps3. Some shit really worth playing on there like TLoU, and duderaider. Psn is pretty much a required thing, but it isn't like it is expensive for anything and it does get you access to some games as well. Although the games offered via psn vs live is shit.
I own every system. I still tend to turn on the Xbox more than the ps4 just because the online community is slightly better. If it isn't a multiplayer game though I always buy my multiplats on ps4.
>>323079174 >you get free games If it's such a great fucking deal, then why did they lump online multiplayer in ps+? The answer is to pressure people into buying into a scam. And the lagginess in p2p games depends on yours and the other person's connection dipshit.
>>323079625 >If it's such a great fucking deal, then why did they lump online multiplayer in ps+? Because you touch yourself at night, that's why. >And the lagginess in p2p games depends on yours and the other person's connection dipshit. So it's Sony fault that you and other moron have shitty Internet? My god, you are stupid.
>>323079934 >So it's Sony fault that you and other moron have shitty Internet? You are literally retarded. I'm not blaming them for that, I'm asking why I have to pay them for that shit, I'm using my own connection to host those games.
>>323077382 >buying a PS4 for multiplayer games if you do that, you pretty much have an overabundance of money and therefore very likely also a great internet connection. That or you are retarded as hell, in which way you deserve it.
>>323080190 Besides multiplayer games, pretty much 90% of modern games have an online aspect to them. Not having access to that aspect of the game you purchased, pretty much devalues it because you are getting less for the same price. Unless of course you buy into their scam. Even if I were a billionaire I still would not willingly give one cent to a scam like some dickless dupe.
Except it isn't a scam. None of it, psn or live is a scam. How naive are you? Online components of games are the current state of the industry. If you don't like it you can always go plug in you snes and play that.
Besides that there are actually quite a few games available that do not require an online connection to play.
I think you should consider just picking a new hobby at this point if this is the kind of thing that makes you mad.
>>323076774 215 is pretty fucking cheap anon. I have one, and i play most of my games in it, i made the option of getting that instead of a gaming pc, so i play multiplats on ps4, really i only play indie shit on pc. I would say it's definitely worth it.
I would say the real strength of consoles over pc, besides the comfy aspects, are multiplayers. In most pc games the communities die really fast, except for some specific games like cs and starcraft, in consoles they usually last a lot longer.
>>323076774 Do you care about Bloodborne, TLOU Remastered, Disgaea 5, Witch and the Hundred Knight Revival, Infamous, Tearaway, Gravity Rush Remastered, EDF, or fighting games like Guilty Gear Xrd and Dead or Alive? That's what's out now.
Do you care about upcoming games like Nier, Persona, Final Fantasy, The Last Guardian, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Yakuza, God of War, Gran Turismo, or Star Ocean?
Are you fine with paying a subscription to play online? Do you already have a gaming PC for multiplats?
$215 is a great price, but there's no point if the library doesn't appeal to you.
>>323081023 >Online components of games are the current state of the industry. If you don't like it you can always go plug in you snes and play that. You have some serious reading comprehension problems friend, you should read the reply chain again. My issue is not with the online components of games. I would not have an issue with paying a subscription fee to Sony for online multiplayer if Sony actually hosted servers for those games, but they don't they force you to host the games.
>>323081154 Jesus you retard it's not about the lag. Even if they're not laggy, why am I paying Sony so I can host p2p games? It makes no sense outside of the zombie brains of the idiots who actually bought into it.
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