Why are Senran Threads getting deleted when there not one, but

VIDEO GAMES

>>323068389
About high time you killed yourself, Toby.

"Wich senran would u fuq?"
"Look at the boobies!"
Save it in your ass for another board. Talk about the video games here.
Also, grow up.

Are you talking about the one which opened with "Which Senran has the best feet?"

I love Senran too but at least pretend to be interested in the games.
There are threads on /u/ otherwise.

>>323068562
Die, normie.

>>323068965
I'm not even close to normal. I'm just able to show some self control. Grow up, Buttercup.

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>>323068821
>/u/

>>323068115
You have a huge 24/7 thread for senran right here
>>>/vg/127728732
and if you want a pure image dump, make a thread on /c/ or /e/
I don't give me the "circlejerk" schtick. the /v/ threads read exactly the same as the generals.

>>323068115
>but two DoA threads open, one of which is literally just posting fap bait images?

Doesn't that just sum up Neptunia and Senran Kagura threads though?

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>>323068389

>undermeme gif

JUST FUCK OFF

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>>323068562
>>323068821
>>323068257

Have you like never been to a Senran thread? What happens is,

>Start of with perv posts
>then game tiers mechanics or story get subtly questioned
>then they really start talking about the games, even posting webms that are more than just pervert details like combos and gameplay demos

This is how the ice gets broken, and if you cut them off before they can break in, then of course it'll never be video game related because they'll get a chance to reach it

>>323068115
To be fair, sent an was a manga/anime before it was a video game. 4chan was made by a weeb, for weebs; animephobes can fuck off.

>>323071647
Senran***

Fucking autocorrect

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>>323071178
>perv posts

>>323068115
>but two DoA threads are open, on of which is literally just posting fap bait images?

But you just summed up every single Senran Thread.

Just combine your garbage into one super fap thread.

>>323068115
Mods killing undertale threads, senran threads, leaving the vitamin quest threads up. This is hilarious.

>>323072034

>Mods killing undertale threads

At least they're doing one thing right.

>>323071178
>porn and retardation first
>video games second
Sorry, that doesn't make you look any better. And, as a matter of fact, once in a while I DO look at these threads when they have 100+ posts, and you drooling morons STILL talk about which senran you want to fug most until these threads die.
Grow up.

>>323071647
This isn't anime-pobia, it's about telling fools to go to /jp/, /e/, /h/, /u/,/b/, or even /trash/, if they're going to go full retard and not talk about video games. You're not on /jp/ and your not on /b/. Stop acting retarded.

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>>323072539
I lurk these threads waiting for someone to discuss the gameplay.

Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't.

Sometimes people just discuss the existence of the threads themselves which is the strangest discussion of all.

>>323068115
Grow up kiddo, your shit must be getting deleted because you are a ban evading shitmaestro.

>>323072539
it's more like get the quick stuff out the way to move on to bigger stuff. Not "Porn first, Games second"

>Grow up

you first, "Le Mature, Serious gamer"

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>>323070143
>the /vg/ autist is at it again

Get fucked, fatty. There's generals for most of the games being discussed in different threads on /v/ right now. Take your hypocrisy and put a bullet in that empty autistic head of yours

Also, best girl

>>323073067
so start talking about the gameplay faggot

>>323073324
>again
?

>>323068115
Good, get better taste.

>>323073406
There's not much for me to say unless someone is asking questions.
I've played all of the games including EV and enjoy them all very much.

>>323073067
Tell everyone something about the gameplay then instead of best-girling everywhere

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So Estival Versus will be my first SK game. What should I expect, is this a beat'em up, regular fighter, or a combination of bothr?

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>>323073324
Not him but it's true that for SK, the generals sort of negate the need for /v/ threads if there isn't any immediate news. And they're not plagued by the meta shit and rando deletions that the /v/ threads always get

>>323073406
>>323073685
Alright.
SV Yozakura sucks to play as. She's slow and her attacks feel clumsy. Punch ninja is a cool idea, but it just didn't work.

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>>323073793
It's similar to Dynasty Warriors, call it a beat em up or whatever.
The difference is that the maps are smaller, the objectives are simpler and there's more of a focus of officer battles instead of killing thousands of mooks endlessly.
The aerial combat is pretty nice too.

>>323074134
I'm sorry to hear that
Got any cute pics of her?

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>>323074056

Maybe, but he's just an anon with a stick up his ass and a severe case of autism. I see threads that I don't like but I never bother with them, I just post in the ones that I do enjoy.

Now, in SK games is there any type of minmaxing with stats or do certain costumes carry additional stats?

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>>323074134
Ayame is the perfect mix of Yozakura and Katsuragi. Punching and kicking.

Also not slow as shit which makes her really fun to play.

>>323071178
See?

>>323073793
>>323074226
Are already starting to prove my point

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>>323074226

Nice, is there an overarching story throughout all the games, or are they all stand alone storylines?

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>>323074337

>>323074834
Just buy the game anon, support the devs

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>>323074897

I've got it up on Amazon now. I wish Marvelous sold stuff from their website to the states. The XSEED store is pretty lame.

>>323068115
Because DOA waifus are literally perfect and even /v/ nods can't disagree.

Senran something is shit.

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>>323074834
Senran Kagura: Burst => Senran Kagura 2

Shinovi Versus starts four separate storylines which branch from where Burst ends.
Bon Appetit takes place after Shinovi Versus.
Estival takes place after Shinovi Versus but assumes Bon Appetit never happened.

There's a continuity, but it's quite loose.

>>323074470
Not that I remember, but that sounds pretty cool. In SV, the more you use a character, the stronger she gets; also you get some more combos. That's about it.

>>323069804
>not liking pure love

Ok, /u/ is trash tier board. I absolutely love lesbians, even if I prefer sick fetishes nowadays, but /u/ is one of the faggiest boards around.

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>>323075363

I see, ok. Is there a free mode where you can pose the characters and take screenshots?

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>>323075352
But what if DOA waifus ARE Senrans too?

>>323075681
Yes there is.

>>323075681
>Is there a free mode where you can pose the characters and take screenshots?
You bet. Probably wouldn't buy it otherwise.

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>>323075937
>>323076021

Sweet, thanks anons.

>>323071178

You pretty much just answered why these threads are getting deleted. You even admitted you end up taking about the game in these threads. If you kept it to waifu shit and lewd pics then it would be allowed like the DoA threads. If you haven't noticed by now threads discussing video games get deleted instantly while there are multiple threads with 400+ replies that literally talking about which vidya character they fap to.

tl;dr post lewd weeb shit you're golden. Try to talk about a game pruned

>>323076384
That's pretty funny.

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>>323076384
>her own water slaps her in the ass
Also, how many players is EV?

Will the DLC girls in Estival Versus be free?

Neither Senran or DoA threads should be deleted.

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>>323076707
Rin and Daidouji will be free. Everyone else, no.

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>tfw only 1 Sayuri lewd

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I love Mirai!

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>>323073067
>>323073672
>want to discuss gameplay
>not much to say

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>dlc

fug

I just bought a ps4 and I forgot about dlc. Im gonna have to run some patch cable from my ps4 to the nearest rj-45 port. Not a big deal

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>>323076707
Just Rin and Daidoji Sempai were free in Japan, everything else was for purchase. 600ish yen each but there were discount bundles for the three Ikkis together and for Kagura and Naraku together.

>>323076659
You mean playable characters?
25 in the base game, 2 free DLC character (3 if you count old granny)
Then like 7 more paid DLC characters.

>>323077091
Estival isn't out for a few more months here, only importfags have played it.

>>323068115
>Why are Senran Threads getting deleted when there not one, but two DoA threads open, one of which is literally just posting fap bait images?

Because they do it for free. sjw mods hate animu games, especially ones where it has females who aren't fat and ugly.

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>>323077440
>aren't fat

So why do they delete SK threads then?

>>323076816
Is this SK2 or SV?

>>323068115
Why are Ryobis boobs so small?

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>>323077632

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>>323077419
Oh also, all of the gameplay based updates were free, so new maps and finishes and the robots and the multiplayer modes.

I didn't mind the price of the characters and I didn't bother buying any clothing.

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>>323077774
I don't know

>>323077774
Versus.

>>323077419
I mean what's the max number of players for multiplayer.

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>>323077784
Poor nutrition. Can't be genetic.

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>>323077619
Yomi isn't ugly.

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>>323077619
Yomi is always super fun to play.

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>>323078051
She's kind of cute for a fat person.

>>323077843
>>323077956
ya winnin, son?

>>323078157
Cute and lovable.

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>>323078271
>w-what's that, s-son?

>>323073067
What the fuck are you smoking. Why are you pretending to be retarded?
The gameplay discussion is worthless and always the same in every fucking thread. The only upside of SK threads is picking up new lewd crops and OC webms.

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>>323077956
Haruka looking delicious as always

>>323076384
Wait, that's not that girl from Ikki Tousen, is it?

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>>323078271

Yes, dad.

>>323077956
She looks very happy there.

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>>323078727
That's exactly who that is.

>>323078614
The rules specify talk about video games, not gameplay exclusively. Very few threads on /v/ is actually about gameplay. Which is why deleting SK threads should never happen so long as the thread is about the game. It's up to the posters to decide what part of the game to emphasise, not the mods.

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>>323078843
>>323078973
I want to eat Mirai!

Also, there's an "M" on her chest.

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>>323077785

Where the FUCK is the uncropped?

>>323075627
Anon, I'm a huge yurifag but /u/ is literally tumblr trash

>>323079058
Why are you telling me that?

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>>323079243
I dunno. Check gelbooru or something

>>323079478
>implying vintage cake isn't delicious
It's an acquired taste I'll admit, but that enables me to enjoy all the pleasures Rin has to offer

>literally just played Senran Kagura Burst to finally try the series
>expect all the girls to be dumb as doors
>turns out there only one dumb girl, the rest are pretty interesting
>the gameplay is actually fun too
>one of the first missions has a short story about a guy fallin in love with Asuka and she actually thinks about it instead of "w-what do you mean love?"

That surprised me a bit. I wasnt expecting much from the games besides the fanservice.
Definitely gonna try the rest later.
But are there unlockable characters in Burst? Or is it just the 6 from each side

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>>323079652

>>323079058
That's true if you ignore the fact that there are entire boards for sexy imagedumps and waifu claiming where the threads last much longer and are generally higher quality and not, say, boards for textures or game storytelling, etc. So i see why mods would feel the need to relocate said image dumps.
But whatever, i opened this thread to get my dick hard, not for meta.

>>323080161
You can unlock Rin and Daidoji, you have to beat them in a fight first though and that Daidoji fight is still the hardest in the whole series.

>>323071178
>It's okay we talk about the games eventually :^)
No better than Katawa Shoujo General.

>>323080324
>entire boards for sexy imagedumps
Anime Cute is as name says for cute anime. Not vidya. Ecchi is NSFW. So no, it belongs on /v/.

Which series is more Shovelware, Neptunia or Senran?

>>323080532
>Anime Cute is as name says for cute anime
That logic doesn't hold when
these threads exist

>>323080786
whoops
>>>/c/2547712
>>>/c/2549215
>>>/c/2550726

>>323080532
Pretty sure it means anime style not strictly from anime

>>323081020
What the fuck is anime style?
Anime is just the french word for cartoon, that's like saying the Witcher 3 is a TV-style game because it has graphics.

>>323079649
I WANT TO CUM INSIDE HARUKA

>>323080204
Beautiful

>>323080426
Well, the hardest if you choose NOT to cheese her with Aerial Raves.

But why in the fuck would you NOT cheese her when she has a fucking 1hko finisher?

>>323081146
Don't play dense anon, the anime/manga aesthetic in this context means "not Western-looking art".

>>323081304
So western games can have waifu threads?

>>323071939
The things i would do for Rashida Jones.

>>323081375
No, they go on /b/ (or /aco/ if lewd)

>>323081304
>not Western-looking art
That's a really dumb thing to say.
What does Western art look like?

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>>323081161
I want to cum inside Haruka and take responsibility

>>323081467
lol. Now you're pulling shit from your ass. /v/ isn't Muslim Video Games. Characters in videogames belong on the videogame board.

>>323081375
Hey, I don't see why not. I mean, good-looking western game chicks are few and far between these days, but I'm a man of equality.

Just like if we get to have our waifu threads, the other dudes (and the 5 femanons) should be able to have husbando threads.

>>323068115
Because Mirai looks like a prepubescent girl and mods don't like that.

>>323080786
>>323080878
please respond

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>>323081474

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I would marry a Mirai DFC queen to be honest.

All you gay niggers feel just leave the thread, you're not even the targed audience for this.

WHERE ARE THE WEBMS

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>>323081751
>Bullying the flat cat
That's not nice.

>>323081912
That title doesn't exactly have much weight when she's only 1 of 2 DFC characters, you know.

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>>323071178
Kill yourself

>>323073067
Kill yourself

>>323074226
Kill yourself

>>323077034
Kill yourself

>>323077419
Kill yourself

deny it all you want but these threads are 99% purely image dumps with no actual discussion at all
the games themselves have very little to talk about, and have been out for so long that nothing new can come of it
fuck off to >>>/vg/ and stay there

>>323082034
But I love her anon. She's so much better than Marie Rose who isn't even DFC. I'm just saying the mods don't.

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>>323081912
You have a beautiful wife!

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>>323082428
Kill yourself

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>>323082292
Jeez, who pissed in your cornflakes this morning dude?

>>323082428
Or you could just post in a thread you like instead of trying to be the Thread Police.

>>323068115
Global rule 8

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>>323082579
Two options:
1) Shut up about how much the thread qualifies to be up and post some art like the thread was intended
2) Kill yourself

>>323077034
i can't find the full image, gib pls.

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>>323081892
That's not very cute!

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>>323082107
Everyone around her is disgusting cowtits. It only makes Mirai the more special. But how could you possibly know that since you don't even play the games.

Go. There. http://www.gaymaletube.com/

You trying to hate on muh titty ninjas here Kat? Doesn't look like you at all. Looks like some hardcore depraved homosexual butthurt fagget being butthurt as usual.

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>>323082930

Did they fix in the camera in Estival? I enjoyed Versus a lot but the way but camera being way too zoomed in and the lock-on switiching off on it's own when you were more than 2m away almost ruined it for me.

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Boobs??

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>>323082987
That's better.

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>>323083129
Boobs!

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>>323082917
Pretty sure you can find it over on Gelbooru since theres maybe 10 r34 pics of her on the entire internet.

>>323082957
But I have played the games (only the 3DS games though).

>>323083316
alright thanks.

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>>323083289
Boobs?!

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>>323083108
I don't know if they changed anything but just playing it on PS4 with an actual controller felt a hell of a lot better to me.

>>323082292
this guy gets it

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>>323083413
Breasts!!

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>>323083535
Boobies?

>>323068115
Because Xseed forgot to pay the mods this month to shill their garbage here

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>>323083640
I love boobies!

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>>323083773
T-titties!

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>>323068115
Because it's a shitty fap bait game for autistic neckbeards like you.
Kill yourself.

>>323083426
Yeah it looks a lot better in the webms at least. It'd be really nice if the lock-on got fixed though, guess I'll know when I finally get to play it myself.

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>>323083923
Tits!!?

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>>323084190
Funbags~!!

>>323084190
please adopt a tripcode so I can filter you, thanks

>>323083535
Rin's breasts, even better

>subhumans

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>>323084309
Boobs!

>>323084345
Go fuck yourself.

I want imagedumpfags to leave.

>>323083316
I do too. SK2 is pretty good near the end and I hope you got the insane DLC. Between you and me Bon Apetit and SV are worth it if you can get a cheap vita for $100.

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>>323084445
B-boobies?

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>>323084567
tits

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>>323084674
Yes! Boobies!

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>>323084689
b-boobs

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>>323084689
Fight!

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>>323084530
I haven't gotten toward the end yet, though I do plan to get the DLC at some point. I think my favorite moment in that game was the mind control thing that Hibari did on Haruka. Jarring as she talked weird, but funny as fuck.

I also plan to get SV at some point since I scored a PSTV over the holidays.

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>>323084813
I love them! I love BOOBS

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>I spend my whole days reposting the same images while talking like a mongoloid

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>>323084827
>not the tanlines version

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>>323084960
TITS!!!

Are these games even good?

haven't had threads this comfy since the sk threads on /a/
keep it up!

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Yomi!

Ass is better

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>>323085125
Titties
TITTIES!!!!!!!!!

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>>323085195
That's my favorite one!

Ikaruga being a very close second.

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>>323084482
I try to at least engage a little in normal conversation and attach images to that. It's a good middle-ground from mindlessly spamming images, I feel like. Seems less obnoxious.

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>>323085171
They're alright
>>323085217
Ass is pretty damn good too.

>>323071178
So what were you saying about talking about the games after a while?

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>>323085234
Sexy love pillows?!

>>323085412
Why are you still here?

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>>323085413
I love them <3

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>>323085329
>responding to bait
oh shit nigga what are you doing?
>>323085538
He's probably the same guy shitposting

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>>323085568
me too

>>323085538
>still
I just got here to talk about the ps4 port
I'll be making my way out

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>>323084951
Nigga you gonna love the DLC on SK2. I guarantee. The first 3DS game is kinda shit but it's really up to you to figure these things out.

Anyway you better preorder SV on Vita and get Bon Appetit on sale for 8 eurobucks now. There also is an anime which is fairly decent.

>>323085171
It's pretty average. It lost its charm for me after awhile

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>>323085643
I thought he just wanted to discuss different waifuposting techniques in a constructive and polite manner.

>>323084987
>I-i swear we mostly talk about the gameplay

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>>323085834
Agreed!

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So how much better is the PS4 version compared to the Vita? Is graphics the only thing changed?

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>>323085940
Yes! It must be boobs.

>>323085913
rule of thumb: if they criticise image dumps, they're shitposting or new

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Who else /mirai/ here?

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>>323086121
Breasts for me!

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>>323086187
I know Mirai's small, but that doesn't mean you have to post small pictures of her.

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>>323086252
Me too. Happy boobies.

>>323085329
I was talking about that other fag in this thread who shits on people discussing the game and proceeds to dump shit that's been on sadpanda since forever.

>>323086132
Why not just go Pixiv on a booru or something?

>>323085729
>I just got here
You know your first post in a thread is highlighted these days?

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>>323086372
Big happy bouncy titties!

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>>323085970
http://gematsu.com/2015/03/senran-kagura-estival-versus-ps4-and-ps-vita-differences-outlined

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>>323086502
Sexy titties!

>>323085856
I already played the first one. Got Murasume for free. Played about as good as you would expect a joke character to play. Speaking of the chain sickle champion (or something like that), I did like that scene between Yomi, Ikaruga, and Murasume in the last(?) chapter of the game.

Are you sure this is videogames? Because it doesn't look like videogames.

>>323086474
case in point. hide this thread and go to a thread you like or better yet make one.

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>>323086637
Healthy girls with big tits!

>>323086670
Just report and hide

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>>323086775
Cute girls and cute boobies!!

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>>323068115
The same tumblrinas from /tv/ are modding here now, what do you expect?

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Marvy gets added to the series when? Nep

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>>323086928
big breasts?!

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>>323087065
The biggest breasts!

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>>323087197
I like that in a girl!

>>323087063
That'd be neat. SK has plently of crossover characters already and Nisa is in Disgaea too so there's no reason to not make it happen really.

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>>323087328
Boobs!

>>323087462
porn games make even less money than senran kagura

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>>323087463
Boobies!

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>>323087615
BIG boobies!

>>323087615
Be honest, have you played SK at all?

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>>323087740
Tits!

>>323087826
Why does it matter? Don't police threads, fuckhead

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>>323087972
Boobies!!!!?

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>>323088214
B O O B S
O
O
B
S

>""""""""""""video games""""""""""""

g/788548/000fa6676a/

Just post this from the get go, no need to shit up a thread for no reason.

Name your favorite level from Senran Kagura that ISN'T jackie chan.

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>>323089209
BOOBIES

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>>323089275
You're back for more?
More tits!!

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>>323089397
Boobs!

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>>323089552
...

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>>323089649
NO!
Breasts!!!!

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>>323089649
HAHA

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>>323089728

I
LOVE
BOOOOOOOOBIIIEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS

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>>323089728
Don't be mean.

Is this dude trying to legit get the thread deleted?

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MORE LEWDS PLEASE

>>323089275
I don't think you've actually played the game if you can't name a single level from it 2bh lad.

>>323090014
it's all been sfw so far so i guess not
not complaining either way

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>>323089825

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more like this?
gets me hard for some reason

>>323087462
tease us better then porn

>>323085056
I approve

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So... when is the Steam version of Shinovi Versus coming?

I'd love to pre-buy it right now but there's still no steam page for fuck's sake.

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Did they finally stop?

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So how are people handling Homura's appearance in Nitroplus Blasterz?

Are they happy with the depiction, or her being 2d just made you lose all interest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIjIZKBHhS0

>>323091576
I didn't mind it to be honest, made the shitposters shut up and was pretty sexy overall

>>323091659
Looks shit unfortunately. Hopefully we get new lewds

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>>323091534
Summer.
>>323091659
tits aren't big enough.

>>323091534
Never you unwashed PC moron. Buy a vita.

>>323092017
0/10

>>323092125
Buy a vita.

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yup. whole bunch of cringe in this thread.

>>323091753
So now you'll finally talk about the gameplay?

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>>323092017
>he doesn't know
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/10/16/senran-kagura-shinovi-versus-little-kings-story-xanadu-next-headed-pc/

>>323091753
we should have dumps more often. though i prefer webms since i haven't played the actual games yet

>>323092201
>>323092017

>Buy a Vita
>Not a PSTV

It's cheaper and you can play it on your big TV. Though the bigger picture means you can see how horribly jaggy the shadows are but that's only really noticeable in the winning animations.

>>323092412
>implying he shouldn't buy a vita anyway

>>323092481
PSTV is ass anon

>>323092389
That's not why we have SK threads. Gameplay is discussed to death in the general anyway. /v/ threads are for stealth lewd.

>>323091659
senrans might be for sexual but i like seeing them being depicted not as lewd every now and then

>>323092660

How is it ass? The only problem I've had with it is just the fact that the picture being larger makes the graphics a little worse since you can see more of it, but it's never been enough to bother me since I'm not a huge graphics fag anyway.

>>323092813
Well thanks for finally admitting it

>>323092813
kill yourself, really

>>323093091
Are you fucking blind
I "admitted" it at the very beginning here
>>323079058

>>323093230
Get fucked.

>>323093637
embarassing

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anyone here on the fence about getting estival versus?

i've got the jap version but i'm not convinced we'll get all the dlc and final patch day 1 in english. has xseed mentioned the ikki tousen dlc characters at all?

>>323092813
>Gameplay is discussed to death in the general anyway
But we're not on the general

>>323093839
just buy it. you won't regret. your dick won't regret

>>323093938
>i've got the jap version

>>323093909
So let's make use of the free environment and post all the sexy we can.

>waiting for the vita games to go on sale

Golden week sale should be coming up at least.

>>323094012
again i mean

This is why /v/ is one of the worst boards.

hibari is the worst girl

>>323094192
where to discuss SK though?

>>323068115
Because every senran thread is literally fapbait images

>>323094202
Take that back you...
y-you m
you m-m-m-MEANIE

>>323094417
>gay confirmed

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>>323094381
>discuss

>>323093839

I am, but mainly because the only SK game I've played was SK2 because you fuckers said it was fun, and it was utter shit. I really like the girls but I don't wanna get burned like that again.

>Wah stop deleting my daily Kagura generals!

>>323093839
the company that ships the game won't ship the Jap game or the European version to my area in Canada so I have to wait on the Xseed version and its killing me because I can't pre-order it yet

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>>323094202
You're the worst poster.

>>323094630
>not discussing waifus in a gentlemanly fashion
new

>>323094757
Very hot got moar?

>>323094786
>gentlemanly
You're deluding yourself

>>323094916
how about you delude yourself into suicide?

>>323094916
You just got memed

>>323095243
>you will never sniff her veggie farts
Get me the rope

So I downgraded and installed CFW on my 3DS the other day, just so I could play SK: Burst without risking Buyer's Remorse because I've heard a lot of criticisms about it.
I'm fucking loving it so far and I've already got a physical copy on order.
I definitely see the issues with the simple combat and level design (the framerate is self-evident) but I'm finding my desire to push myself for higher ranks and higher combos is adding a bit complexity than if I was only playing to get to the end.
I'm also surprised by how much I'm enjoying the writing despite only being in Chapter 1 at the moment. Asuka's short story with the baseball player and how she completely ignored him so they could both improve themselves and that minor hint of regret she felt was a really great character moment.
I'm really looking forward to playing Deep Crimson if it's as big of an improvement as everyone says.

>>323095689
how's the life and hometown

>>323094202

I didn't like her at first but her backstory about her flower eyes in Shinovi Versus made me like her a little more.

Minori is much worse.

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>>323095368

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>>323095796
I'd say it's 50/50 in Burst. 2 improves on the breast physics, but sacrifices the ass physics.

There's also Mirai having small breasts as opposed to being completely flat.

>>323096212
She also got some backstory in the following game, EV. Surprisingly touching.