Am I scrub for playing with auto mapping on? I just don't

Why are you even playing the game if you don't like its core mechanic?

It's like playing Mario and being annoyed at the fact you have to jump to do anything.

>>323014784
You shouldn't feel bad. I used to like Dungeon Crawlers, when they were still good (like Shining The Holy Ark, for instance) but Etrian Odyssey and the likes are just too tedious and boring.

>>323014981
How's drawing walls a core mechanic?
Combat and exploring the labyrinth are.

>>323014981
What a retarded analogy even for /v/.

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>>323014784
Fucking hated this remake. It lost the charm of the original and made everything easier.

And of course, the voice acting is atrocious. Why would I expect it otherwise.

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>>323014784
>Am I scrub for playing with auto mapping on?
That's a thing?
If so, yes.

>>323016684
>I AM SILLY
>STOP COMPLAINING
Summed up your shitty comic.

I've got a pretty good memory for these games so normally do them mapless but given you need to draw a significant portion of the map for floor jump in Untold, I turned on automapping.

i draw out the maps during auto battle

>>323016684
Why should I be forced to stay put with changes I disliked?

Whatever man, eat your shit if you loke it that much.

>>323014784
I'm currently playing etrian odyssey IV, and all automap seems to do is paint walkable floortiles, still gotta draw the walls myself.
at first I thought mapping the game would be a dumb chore, but I'm actually really enjoying it.
hella comfy games mang

>>323017409
Until you hit an FOE.

>>323015191
Not that guy, but part of exploring the labyrinth is mapping it out

I loved this game but I got stuck at the tank boss and haven't played it since ;_;

He always beats me when he does that attack where he shoots into the sky and a turn later he kills you in 1 turn as it's 2 attacks in a row.

>>323017485
FOEs aren't even that difficult to beat, you just have to not be a complete retard.

>>323014784
No. Drawing the map isnt even hard or engaging. Its just a fucking chore and gets annoying after an hour.

Placing markers and notes for important spots manually is enough.

>>323014784
If the remake has auto mapping I might actually play it. Like you say drawing map feels like a chore.

>>323017734
>not being so autistic that you get a feeling of completion for drawing every line perfectly
m9

I'm playing this after PQ, and how do magic/str/agi binds compare to head/arms/legs?

I'm currently playing OP. How do you mine?

>>323017802
It's like playing a non-EO dungeon crawler and going back to step on every hazard tile just to complete the map.
If anything, EO makes it less of a chore for autists.

>>323014784
I saw the option but never tried it.
There's something therapeutic about drawing my own map. No other game I've played has really offered it.

>>323017937
Fuck, I remember doing that in Strange Journey. Bootes and Eridanus were fucking nightmares to fully map but my autism wouldn't let me proceed until they were cleared.

>>323017886
At least one character in your party must have the mine skill unlocked. Then you just stand in the spot.

>>323015191

drawing the fucking map is the core mechanic you retard

>>323018217
Simply drawing walls alongside a path != drawing a map you retard.
It's a chore mechanic alright.

I find the map drawing shit pretty tedious desu family
It doesn't present a challenge, it's literally drawing lines as you walk through the dungeons and dragging icons.

I automap without shame. No point wasting my time, dungeon crawlers already drag on forever

>>323018317
It encourages exploration. However I do believe the game needs more ways to reduce random encounters.

>>323018351
Then don't play them.

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>Painting floor tiles underneath your doors.

>>323018465
I fill in the entire map.

>>323018462

I like the dungeon crawling itself. I like marking on my own notes and shortcuts. Floors and walls are just tedious though.

>>323018465
This actually took me a while to decide. At first I painted the doors as floor tiles but later I decided to put a door icon between the floor parts and not put a wall line at the edge of the door icon.

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>>323018376
it doesnt, you fucking monglet.

People explore because there might be treasure around, not so they can confirm that the line they drew is accurate.

Its not hard, its not complicated, its a boring chore that forces me to stop playing to draw a line

>>323018465
>Doors float in the air

>>323018465
But your party technically walked on that floor.
Marked = Explored.
Do you fill in treasure tiles though?

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>>323018686
>>323018569
>>323018465
The real question is, do you paint stairway tiles as floor?

>>323018686
I did the latter initially until one day I decided that it looked retarded. Now I just have door icons floating between two walled ground tiles.

>>323018905
Yes. In Untold 2 I used the darker green, as a recent example.
I forgot what I used for the other games.

>>323018905

Staircases are just a collection of little floors.

>>323018686
I also do this.

>>323018905
No, but I do wall around them to indicate which side they can be accessed from.

>>323019121
I'd have to ask what's wrong with someone if they didn't do this.

>>323014784

Why do you care what /v/ thinks? If you don't enjoy it then turn it off. I don't see the point in doing it manually if it's done just as well automatically either.

>>323018376
You still explore when you have auto mapping on.

>>323014784
Map drawing is one of my main reasons for playing all the games. Some people like drawing, others don't, so the option is there

>>323014784
>Am I scrub for playing with auto mapping on?
Yes, you are.

Also play on Expert or fuck off.

>>323018905
Staircases are just floors that go up in succession.

You would be a scrub if it wasn't for the fact that the 4th stratum is complete bullshit to fully map out.

Also the devs are cocks for not making kupula a 6th party member.

>>323017557
Have your Protector use fire wall
Use a fire seed, or whatever it's called (buy at the shop)
Failing that: medic with CPR

>>323015134
Is there any difference between tedious and boring?

>lad