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Mega Man X is probably the closest thing to perfection in the medium.

I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it's almost perfectly designed.
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Ok
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It's alright, but I can't really think of what it excels at that no other game does.
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classic is better
gunstar heroes is better
alien soldier is better
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>>322970621
>any megaman game ever
>not derivative garbage that's poorly balanced with 20edgy56u for no reason other than to make you hate everybody
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It's my favorite game of all time. And the music is perfection alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sipwbakD4F0
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>>322970621
Astro Boy: Omega Factor is the superior game featuring a robot boy. MMX is pretty cool though.
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>>322971447
I completely disagree, but I'm happy to know that I wasn't the only one who played and enjoyed Omega Factor.
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>>322970621

How you doing, Egoraptor? I like MMX too. It and X4 are my favorite Mega Man games.
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>>322971585
Not OP, but I hate this meme. Mega Man X and Ocarina of Time are my two favorite games of all time.
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>>322971809

It seems everything is a meme on modern 4chan.
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>>322971273
>derivative

of what?
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>>322971108
>classic is better
No.
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>>322972217
>>classic is better
>No.
Yes.
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>>322972061
don't expect him to be to explain what ever the fuck he was trying to say
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>>322972061
Of fishing, that's why it's called bait.
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>barely any plot at all
>can be beaten in a single sitting
>why is my character even doing this stuff
Shit game

Megaman is a pleb-tier game like Mario, Zelda and Sonic
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>>322972303
No.
Only 2fags think classic is better and that it is also the only good classic game.
Literally the supermetroidfags of the MM platformers, because that's the only game they play.
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>>322972621
Next you're going to say why don't people like good games like Little Samson.
I wish I knew the answer myself.
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>>322972061
Of Astroboy of course

Anywho, the X series set my standard for Megaman, so I always struggle when I play the classic games. That lack of Dashing and Wall-climbing are just entirely alien to my Megaman gameplay
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>>322972637
but super metroid is rightfully the best metroid
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>>322972743
Sorry but I need games with some mental stimulation, not just mindless gameplay.

Why is megaman doing this. Who are these other robots and why are they fucking shit up? What is the backstory of the world it takes place in?

None of those games answer these questions sufficiently. They are mindless games for mindless plebs to waste time on. I can't get into them.
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>>322972621
>>why is my character even doing this stuff
"X, robots are fucking shit up. Stop them from fucking shit up"
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>I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but it's almost perfectly designed.

oh this is gonna be fucking rich. what defines "perfect design" in a video game?
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>>322973060
But that's not Kid Icarus of Myths and Monsters, you fucking moron.
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>>322972637
>2 is the only good classic game
No.
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>>322973071
All of those questions are answered in megaman

but beside the point, I enjoy a story as much as the next guy, but if you can't enjoy the occasional gameplay-only vidya do you even enjoy games at all? Wouldn't books or movies be more your thing?
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>>322973160
Oh boy someone get these writers an award. Megaman is truly a moving work of art. So inspirational
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>>322973071
>Who are these other robots
They're reploids infected with the maverick/sigma virus
>and why are they fucking shit up?
They're infected with a virus

>What is the backstory of the world it takes place in?
100+ years ago, DR Light built robots that would fuck up the world for centuries to come
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>>322970621
That's not Sonic 3 & Knuckles
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>>322973269
>what defines "perfect design" in a video game?
I'm assuming he means a game without faults, something everyone can just pick up and play.
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>>322973348
Movies are a terrible way to tell a story. Sorry but i can't give a fuck about characters that i only spend two hours with at most.

Books are fine but they're beaten handily by story driven RPGs because they don't feature graphics, music or voice acting
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>>322973071
Thanks for clearly proving that you didn't play the damn game.
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>>322973524
lmao
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>>322973401
And NONE of that shit is explained in game. Maybe in single-line dialogue at best
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>>322973625
I literally sat down and beat the game in one sitting so yes i did

It was easy as fuck and a boring waste of time
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>>322972398
>don't expect him to be to explain
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>>322970621
literally the OoT of Mega Man games, and by that I mean it's an overrated memegame
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>people responding to shit tier bait

You pretty much forfeit your right to bitch about /v/s quality. You deserve it all.
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>>322970621
Not even the best in the series. X2 and X4 are the superior ones in their respective platforms.
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>>322974061
shut off faggot
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>>322973750
I mean if you wanted more dialogue in X then play Maverick Hunter X that game explains everything . As for the original you learn about who/what X is from the opening. You get a good idea about the mavericks going nuts when you fight Vile or you at least understand robots are going crazy. I mean what more did you want from a SNES game back then?
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>>322974148
I really don't understand all the hate for X3

I loved fucking around with all those ride armours
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>>322973883
>It was easy as fuck and a boring waste of time
I dont get this man, if you knew it was a waste why did you beat it? Like other than jumping shooting, platforming,upgrades, and bosses what more did you think was MMX was going to give you?
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>>322974405
Me neither. It's the worst between the 3 SNES games but it's not a bad game at all.
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>>322974405
>I really don't understand all the hate for X3
Its a meme.
Some faggots cried about it long enough until it spread.

Kinda like Spoonys faggotry with FF8.
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Tetris is the only perfect game.
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>>322973524
Then why are we even arguing about this? Tetris has always been the perfect game
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>>322974405
X3 had fucking up-dash.
Goddamn best thing in the series movement wise, and they threw it all away for "hovering" in X4. Got something barely similar in X6, but it went way too far and thus lacked the exact momentum to have the same great execution.

If the mavericks and stages had been better designed (along with some of the music, even on the PS1/SS), it would be my fucking top pick. As is, you have a bunch of cool stuff to mess around with, but nothing worth using it on.
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>>322974869
I'd argue Ms. Pac-man is perfect.
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>>322974816
>>322974869
"perfect" is subjective bruvs. sorry
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>>322972000
Plot twist: you are the memes
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>>322974816
>>322974869
>literally play until you lose with the only actual challenge being the speed that blocks fall and not the actual puzzle-aspect itself
Fuck that shit.
I can name 5 puzzle games that shit all over tetris.
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>>322974816
What about Breakout?
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>>322970621
i just beat it yesterday for no reason,
felt really good man

going for x-2 soon
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>>322970621
Super Metroid is literally the greatest game ever made. I love me some Mega Man X, but it doesn't touch SM.
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>>322971108
fuuuck no
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>>322975137
Please do.
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>>322975294
but all 3 are right
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Anyone ever use the default controls for Megaman?
I always put dash on the R button. I can't imagine it anywhere else
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>>322974061
Is it really fair to dismiss shit opinions as bait? He might have the most convincing argument ever
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I really liked MM 9 and 10.

Heck 9 is my favorite of the Classic series now.

But since it's not MM2, X1, or Legends no one talks about it

At least my BN bros got my back
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>>322974961
That said, and I know I'm gonna get shit for this, but X6 also had some nice execution in terms of control with its armors and the fact that X had a melee attack to hit above and below him, instead of just straight forward.
That, along with the fact that they kept the duck from X5 was baller as fuck.

Unfortunately, like X6 though, the stages and (to a lesser extent than X3 and the stages of X6) mavericks bring it down, especially with the nightmare effect bullshit active.
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>>322974816
>>322974869

Super mario bros. 3 is also perfect
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>>322975426
After I played the Inti games I started using L for dash.
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>>322975219
/thread
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>>322975219
super metroid is held back by the shit tier bossfights
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Alright, Arin. We get it.
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>>322975392
Puyo Puyo (2-style being most balanced)
Puzzle League series
Columns 3
Puzzle Bobble series (save for mobile shit)
and Tetris Plus's Puzzle Mode
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>>322975567
9 was rancid shit and literally started the LOLSORETRO trend that every indie faggot and their dogs do nowadays.
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>>322973602
You read shit books my man
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>>322975728
Goddamn this.
>boss literally does nothing until you push it into lava
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>322976049
>LOLSORETRO
Except Mega Man 9 and 10 were actually throwbacks since Mega Man actually looked like that for six of his titles (11 if you count the Game Boy games).

I really hate that they got rid of the slide though. That shit was great. Charged shot I can live with as more of a Mega Man X mechanics.
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>>322976345
Wasn't the charged shot introduced in Megaman 3 or something
I think it was early enough that he's had more than he hasn't
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>>322976345
I never got why charge shot was so shit in classic compared to X.
A majority of the games have you lose it as soon as you get damaged, and the mid-charge is literally a single point of damage and beyond useless. At least X got this shit right and made that thing worth a damn by doing 2 damage.
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>>322975942
You forgot Magical Drop.
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>>322976475
It was Mega Man 4 that introduced the charge shot. So that's 5 mainline games where he didn't have the charge shot and there's 10 Mega Man games.
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>>322976475
>3
google before you post from now on, dipshit.
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>>322976652
Magical drop is pretty shit to play solo.
You need at least the CPU as an enemy to make it worth a damn.

Critter Crunch is pretty cool solo though.
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>>322976586
>I never got why charge shot was so shit in classic compared to X.
You explained it pretty well in the sentence that followed. Regular shots still caused significant enough damage in MM games, whereas in X you wanted to have those charge shots constantly ready.

That's why I have no problems with the slide, all it did was speed up the game a little and punished reckless players. Charge shot is just ehh.
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>>322971336
My fucking nigga, best song.
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>>322973750
Jesus Christ why does everything have to be spoon fed to you? Learn to connect the dots.
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>>322977860
Connecting dots is hard
One of the reasons why people didn't take to Prototype's web of intrigue thing
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>>322973750
>SNES games
>explaining shit
How young are you? Most games at the time aside from RPGs only provided story exposition in the manuals.
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>>322979574
This!
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Megaman has the best Deepest Lore
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>>322980517
Fuck you, Breakman.
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>>322971108
I think Classic as a whole is better than X as a whole, but X1 is probably my favorite of both series. That might be bias though since X1 was my first game of either series.
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>>322981245
X1 is basically classic with "optional" dashing.
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>>322981504
there's definitely more to it than that
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>>322974405
When I first played 3, my biggest issue was the difficulty, mainly I felt X took too much damage from everything without the body armor.

Once I got the armor and enough special weapons to stand a chance I ended up really liking the rest of the game, though, even if I don't think it's as good as X1 or X2. I think people who hate X3 didn't get far enough or couldn't find the body armor.
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>>322981842
Well, wall-jumping as well, but there's still a shit-load of ladders in the game to where even that isn't much of a necessity. Save for a few unavoidable attacks that require it, you can beat almost every boss without wall-jumps.
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>>322982152
One nice perk about X3's body armor is that it would give you a short amount of additional defense after taking a hit. Even more so with the chips.
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>>322981504
Yeah, I honestly do enjoy the dashing aspect (though for some reason I don't enjoy playing as Bass in MM&B or MM10, maybe it's the lack of power), though I don't consider it a necessity and I can enjoy MM Classic perfectly fine without it.
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>>322970621
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>>322982260
>capsules with weapon/armor upgrades
>rechargable energy tanks
>giant mecha suits
>hadouken
>intro stage
>heart tanks that extend health
>stages can change depending on which boss you kill first

There was definitely more to it than wall jumping and dashing
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>miles upon miles of stupid shitposting
>not one good retort

Megaman X confirmed the BEST game ever made.
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>>322970621
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DftpJxMZkQ

My favorite is X1, I play this once every 2-3 years.

Sad the remake is shit
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>>322982737
pretty much this
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>>322973359
It's a platforming action game, not a novel.
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>>322982797
>sad the remake is shit

what are you smoking?
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>>322982386
Bass sucked nuts in MM10.
MM&B Bass became pimp once you got his buster upgrades, but regrettably those are tied to your progress and don't unlock right away.
One thing that kinda sucks about bass compared to X and Zero is that he immediately goes stationary when attacking, so you can't do the old loop-da-loop like X where you dance around at the speed of sound firing off shots from both sides mid-dash and mid-dash jump.
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>>322973359
Mario, Bowser is fucking shit up! Stop him from fucking shit up!
Sonic, Eggman is fucking shit up! Stop him from fucking shit up!
Raziel, Kain is fucking shit up!(and the elder god) Stop him from fucking shit up!
I can literally go on you repugnant turd. This is a game from 1993. Nineteen ninety fucking three. What do you expect a 7 cartridge spanning adventure? The fuck out of here. I hope a degenerate dead leg carnie sneaks into your room tonight and dips his carnival sweat soaked balls into your mouth.
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>>322983008
I like that though, it makes him and Mega Man actually feel different.
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>tfw you like every Mega Man except a small few
Rockman & Forte WS, and X7 are really it. Hell, I dislike them for essentially the same reasons, being slow and awkward as all mother fuck. That's not to say I think every game is perfect (the Classic series is filled with bullshit like Gutsman's weapon being useless, that Crash Bomb Wily boss, etc.) but I really only think those two are downright unplayable.
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>>322982683
Yeah. I should have specified that I was originally thinking in terms of basic stuff you have from the start. I admit full fault on this one.

Well, too late now, so I might as well try to salvage what I can of my intended argument.

Thing is though, save for the intro stage (well, you could always password past it as well, I suppose), all of that stuff is optional. The game is perfectly beatable without all of that, and you can even take a stage order which has none of the boss-death affects on the others.

Fuck it, I tried.
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>>322983162
I meant for why he feels unsatisfying compared to X despite having dash.
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>>322983413
I couldn't bother trying after R+F WS' intro boss.
Damage sponge out the ass.
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>>322984252
It's honestly just a shit game. It's piss easy most of the time, has some of the most forgettable bosses in any Mega Man game (even including Star Force), and just moves so slowly
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x 1 was fantastic but the final fight was horribly designed. the basis of it was good considering that you had to be relatively precise to land a hit and he was constantly throwing the pain at you, but the amount of time it actual takes to take him down just ruins any sense of momentum. the only part of his fight that goes quick is evil friender. after that it's a god awful grind for two forms.
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