Bumpers on 360 are fine, and I personally dont mind the DPad.
XBone is the one that has near-unpressable bumpers, and the B button is close to rolling off the side of the damn contraption.
>the flaw isn't the four colored buttons you have to press with the inside of your thumb because of the shit layout of modern controllers
Eh, your baits are getting stale
no seriously, whip up something new for once
you can make up some new baits, right?
no? guess you cant make up any
don't worry, I never had a interest in your baits
just like your exclusives
>360 Dpad: Absolute shit
>XBOne DPad: Endless clicking sounds
>not liking a satisfying click
Then again the clacking on the GC was annoying
I like the texture on the sticks but the battery is meh. It's not nearly as bad as people try to say it is, though. Mine seems to go about 8 hours, and I just put the console in rest mode and plug it in when not in use so I hardly ever have to play plugged in.
why don't they put the buttons on the grips instead of the face
you could have 8 fingers pressing 8-12 buttons on the grips and another few on the face
instead you have 4 grip buttons (for 2 fingers) and 4 face buttons (for 1 finger)
The D pad is a lot more direct and very clicky, actually having a dedicated directional part of the pad is a far better improvement over something like the shit D-pad on any Playstation controller ever.
>flawlessly shaped, exquisitely comfortable Duke
man, everyone's first two reactions to that thing were
>lmao look at this hunk of plastic xd
>oh shit it's comfy as fuck
basically the only good thing to come out of microsoft in 15 years
literally fixed over a year ago at this fucking point.
do some fucking research.
but i guess we can both play that game.
hurr sony controllers have shit analog sticks and the rubber wears off
Paddle controls on the back so you can have much quicker, custom controls instead of using the face buttons. Adjustable height sticks for more control when you aim. There's some other shit too.
I didn't say it was good, I said it was cheating shit. Like Razer advertising that awful piece of shit they made for 360 as giving you an edge.
People hate it because...I don't know, actually. All it is is a screenshot/video button. It's considered normal to take screens of PC games, but for some reason on console it's social network cancer all of a sudden.
Looks like something designed by Mister Garrison.
>on big screens controller light will reflect on the screen unless you slap something to block the light
>tiny for large hands unlike pevious controllers
Had some great improvements but also comes with flaws.
>I didn't say it was good, I said it was cheating shit. Like Razer advertising that awful piece of shit they made for 360 as giving you an edge
It's fucking great though. Playing dark souls and being able to dodge/sprint/chance stance while still controlling the camera or switch weapons/items with still moving without needing to claw grip is great.
The only downside is that I can't go back.
>not having square gates
Then the paddles should have been on the stock controller. One of the virtues of console multiplayer is that you aren't at the mercy of someone else having better hardware. Selling something that gives you finer control is just dirty, especially at $150.
As long as your TV isn't some monstrosity with a massive input lag and your internet is decent, you're on the same playing field as everyone else. Unless they went out and bought the Microsoft Paddlemaster 5000, of course.
Xbox 360 d-pad is good. It's floaty, equally to every 8 direction.
Dulashock d-pad is terrible. No float, diagonals are hard as fuck to input.
I don't get what people have against the Xbox 360 d-pad. Most of the western bullet hell players play with it and clear CAVE games with ease (including me).
Sure, it might be bad for switching weapons in CoD or for navigating menus. Is that where this meme originates from?
I'd like the touchpad if I could ever use it, for anything. It seems like they thought it was a great idea then just forgot to implement it into anything, ever. No games seem to use it either, it's just there. Can't even use it for home menu navigation.
Man that shit's just fucking creepy
I remember there was a thread or a
It apparently was like someone with stumps trying to jerk off. (but apparently he enjoyed it)
It's a girl. She has a dwarf thumb on her left had and no thumb on the right. She posted that to criticize the design of the Steam Controller but it backfired and now GloopyGloppers are jumping down her throat for being born without a full set of hands. Meanwhile the rest of the internet insists "ableism" isn't a thing.
>One of the virtues of console multiplayer is that you aren't at the mercy of someone else having better hardware
No, that's one of the drawbacks of console gaming. Having a plethora of input devices so that everyone can find something that works best for them is a huge positive for PC gaming.
Besides, the only console multiplayer people take seriously is fighting games and the are a shitload of fightsticks out there for consoles.
The thing about the bumpers is they're just not comfortable to rest your index fingers on and some games expect it of you.
Like with the PS4 controller I'm perfectly fine with holding my index fingers on either R1 or R2, doesn't really matter to me.
That's retarded. What about people with no hands? What about people who can't move their arms at all?
It's not really a criticism of the design just because it doesn't cater, and in ding so severely limit itself, to such a small percent of the population. That's just being an entitled brat.
what has science done
it's a damn good fightpad, probably the best available
cheaper than a stick, too
if there's one thing I really liked in Nintendo's controllers, it was the octagon gates
playing SA2 is a shit ton better on GC than on DC just because of the controller
You can't tell what you are pressing. The D-Pad is just one giant fucking button, and so when you press a direction the two directions next to it are also pressed. It's the most imprecise piece of shit in the world. (try playing a fighting game with it, for example)
>I'm a poorfag who limits both his competitive ability as well as his comfort and enjoyment using inferior hardware
In all realness, it's a very small advantage. No need to be salty.
What's the point in criticizing something for something it was not designed to do in the first place and would hinder it's original goal. It's meant to work for people with functioning hands. You don't just sit down and design a gamepad for people with missing fingers as your main controller.
This is a business after all, and just maybe with the money they make from not making a shit controller they'll be able to come up with alternatives for these special snowflake minorities who can only complain and need to be fed everything. There's a video of a guy with arthrogryposis playing fighting games with his tongue. That's the kind of attitude they should be aiming for instead.
Left analog stick should be where the D-pad is, that D-pad placement is only good for fighting games.
I like it when the concave is smoother, not just a drop but that's just my autistic preference.
Better hardware isn't competitive ability though. Honestly taking a "competitive" game seriously enough to desire a way to cheat is bad enough, but when companies sell special controllers to cater to that desire, it's disgusting.
On PC I guess the only way having better hardware would help is in shooters, and IDK if that's even a big scene anymore, since now it's all about the ASSFAGGOTS, but I never played anything multiplayer on PC anyway.
But I guess better controllers are the least of my worries. I pretty much only play Playstation shit online anyway, where Mexicans use hacks to see/shoot through walls in TLOU, have infinite bombs, can't be killed except by damage (only shived).
It's just irritating because console hardware is standard, it seems like the peripherals should be standard as well. I've never considered fightsticks cheating though because that's what fighting games were played with before they were ever on home consoles. Same goes for wheels and flight sticks.
I didn't mean they take too much force, I meant they seem like they're meant to be hit with the side of my fingers rather than clicked downward, and that motion starts to irritate the sides of my fingers after a while.
I actually really like the Bone's controller, just not quite as well as the DS4.
I didn't even notice at first. What the fuck, mang.
What? I literally just said it isn't that big of a deal, only kind of irritating. You can't be defending straight-up hacks that let faggot hues see through walls. This is a real thing.
I HATE THIS SHIT. I keep going to set my controller down and fast forwarding when I have a Blu-ray in, or power attacking in Blood borne.
I did the same thing on PS3 once, where I set my controller down and accidentally killed the Fair Lady in DaS. I had just given her a lot of humanity so I was pissed.
Like I said, sticks don't really suffer too much from being in that position unlike the d-pad which suffers greatly.
Given the choice, and the fact that a whole bunch of 3D stuff is better on M+KB anyway, I'll pick a much better d-pad than a hardly better left stick
And the shoddy build quality.
And the weird deadzones on the analog sticks that make it literally impossible to perform jump attacks or shield breaks in Dark Souls 2, for example.
>Better hardware isn't competitive ability though. Honestly taking a "competitive" game seriously enough to desire a way to cheat is bad enough, but when companies sell special controllers to cater to that desire, it's disgusting
It's not cheating. It just transcending the limitations of the default input device and allowing you to play to the best of your abilities.
>It's just irritating because console hardware is standard, it seems like the peripherals should be standard as well
That's the kind of thinking that holds technology back. Extra back/shoulder buttons have been the one decent controller innovation made in the past 15 years. It doesn't even let you do anything you couldn't already do with a claw grip, it just makes it more comfortable to do so.
>I've never considered fightsticks cheating though because that's what fighting games were played with before they were ever on home consoles. Same goes for wheels and flight sticks
Still, it means the hardware used to play those games isn't standard. And I'm not big on RTSs but I imagine a nice mouse with no angle snapping or acceleration and minimal input delay is an advantage for competitive starcraft and shit. And people still perform well with inferior hardware like that guy who won evo with a PS controller.
I just don't see how you can see companies coming out with products that allow you to control your games better and more comfortably as a bad thing.
>Like I said, sticks don't really suffer too much from being in that position unlike the d-pad which suffers greatly.
I really don't understand how. Presumably they suffer in that position for being the primary movement method, yes? So why does the dpad suffer more than the analog stick? They are both in a shit position, the only difference I see is that most of the time it's more important to have the analog stick in the right place since most games are 3D and thus use it as the movement method.
Lettered buttons are arranged right-to-left like some weeb faggotry.
Too bad the build quality is garbage.
>probably the best available
>you're playing fps on a console
Can you PCfags please just go away. We play on consoles because we have sex with women you fucking dingus.
Not OP but I don't think they are in a good position
When you hold a 360 controller your natural resting position is on the triggers and to press the bumpers you have to spread your index finger apart to almost its limit almost straining it
If you hold a playstation controller your natural resting spot is on L1 R1 buttons so you are closing your fingers together to hit the L2 R2 buttons
the only controller I'll use on a sony console. otherwise i'd rather not play. way more comfortable and agile in game. i practically dance around fools in MP shooters before I melee them to death
the dual shock stick layout has always been retarded. only tards with little girl/gook hands claim to love it.
>I don't own it so I will post meme shit just to bash it
>because I don't have it
Stop being asshole about something just because you own it ppl.
It doesn't have vibration though, does it? I was considering buying one before I found that out, years of playing the 360 has made controllers without rumble feel wierd to me. I think it was also missing a headset jack or something else silly as well.
I own it, it's trash.
After about a month I decided to buy a third party controller with everything in the right place, a dpad and a battery life that lasts longer than the orgasm I gave your mother last night.
Yes it did. It was the whole setup. I love it. Plus it's minor but the 1TB Hybrid drive is definitely faster at loading than my brother's Day One Xbone is. I get into matches a good few seconds before he does when we're playing online and we have the same ISP.
Where is the start button
It's the same way it is on the SNES. It's right to left because on the original NES pad, the A button was on the right. It was the primary button, so it was placed where your thumb would naturally rest. the B was placed to the left of it because it's a secondary button and you have to move your thumb
i guess you started gaming during the 7th gen, huh? even the PS1 has the confirm button the right and it's used as such in many of it's games, especially the early ones
>insane battery life
>analog sticks despite not being in the preferred postition are far away enough for it not to be an issue
>no unnecessary buttons or additions like lights and whatnot
I own one, the battery life is just awful. There's really no excuse. It drains as fast as my goddamn WiiU gamepad. How the fuck even?
HOWEVER the touchpad is SUPER useful on PC so I can't really hate it.
image her being like
"let me give you a handjob"
It didn't have the analog buttons of the previous DualShocks.
If the DualShock 4 had the analog buttons, this will be the best controller known to mankind.
But even without the analog buttons, the DualShock 4 will still be the best controller.
BTW I also use my DualShock 4 for PC.
That's like criticizing a plane for being unable to be flown by dogs. Planes aren't made for dogs to fly them and controllers aren't made to be held by people with retarded hands.
You're able to go into device settings and turn off the light on the back completely
this looks comfy and buttons seem really well placed and ergonomic
how does it actually feel though? any of you have first hand experience with it?
Is it compatible with steam like the xbox 360 usb controller?
People actually want this? that shit was so uncomfortable. The DS4 is the most comfortable they have ever come out with
Seriously I get that Nintendo fans are loyal and all but be real here. The Xbone Elite controller is by far the greatest. The only reasonable argument against it is "the price" which is silly to me since I'm not poor.
>The Xbone Elite controller is by far the greatest.
Holy fuck no anon, I feel sorry for you if you fell for that prime example of Judaism.
A friend of mine has one and it felt like utterly cheap tat.
Not him but nigga you can't even spell "Bayonetta" I doubt you've even come within 10 feet of one let alone put your hands in the correct position which people seem to have that problem when it comes to Nintendo shit. The gamepad is fucking terrible for those games because of how huge it is and how the buttons are placed.
It's pretty shit. The face buttons have very resistant rubber domes that feel like crap, the sticks aren't rubberized at all and lack L3 and R3 buttons, and the dpad just feels like mush.
It's a real shame because it's the most comfortable controller I've ever held. They use the deisgn as a basis for a few console controllers including the greatest of all time xbox controller. Th eoriginal pc version was massive though. Made the duke look like a dualshock, only real men allowed.
I missed a letter big deal you crybaby. The official traditional wiiU controller sucks compared to its competition. Having the main buttons placed under the right analog stick is extremely frustrating to have. They probably did it to be different from the other two companies.
If you are making controllers with two analog sticks, then the right one, or the one aligned with the main buttons, should always be on bottom
Hell, the gamecube had the right idea with the c-stick
This is just a mess
Why do you think tourneyfags stick with the gamecube controller, or maybe even the big screen wiiU gamepad over this. I speak from a group of people and watching people complain about that controller. No one wants to use it in multiplayer games, not even mario kart
He might be playing on PS3 vs jailbroken players, it can happen
>Having the main buttons placed under the right analog stick is extremely frustrating to have.
Elaborate anon, because unless you're a hamfisted demon there should be no complications whatsoever. The buttons are placed so there's no clashing with the analog stick in the slightest.
>They probably did it to be different from the other two companies.
I doubt it considering they were the first ones of the three to use the above analog style.
>If you are making controllers with two analog sticks, then the right one, or the one aligned with the main buttons, should always be on bottom
And you're saying this why exactly?
Like I said unless you're a hamfisted demon there should be no discomfort in either placement.
>Why do you think tourneyfags stick with the gamecube controller
Same reason people use arcade sticks over the console's own controller for fighters, it's what they're used to. In order to use the new controller they'll have to take a longer time to adapt to it and the feel of the actual controller just like they did with the GC controller. Unless they're forced to change they won't and guess what system has an adapter for GC controls?
> No one wants to use it in multiplayer games, not even mario kart
Except for actual MK players because no one wants to use the Wii remote or that shitty Wii Classic controller or that bulky gamepad.
It's not its grand-pappy
generally speaking, people dislike the placement of the wiiU classic controller buttons and right analog
I agree that a lot of the discomfort is because most people are not use to it but for me it is also that those buttons are further from the bumper and trigger buttons in your right hand
Small changes like that are noticible.
we both have different views on it but I speak from what I feel and have seen other people react about
>inb4 you assume again that discomfort comes from being a fatass with huge hands
I just think the controller sucks compared to the dualshock and xbox controller