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Last thread got archived, we were talking about the backgrounds scaling methods, which tools were you guys using?
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>>322930484

Did the 2x upscaling twice with waifu2xddd. I can use it as a goddamn wallpaper.
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>>322931331

Original picture.
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I feel waifu2x is not the best choice for these backgrounds, because of the sharpening. nnedi3 was better, I just need to get started with the tools and wait for the pc version to come out to see if the upscaled backgrounds can be injected somehow. Anybody willing to help?
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>>322931331
That looks like fucking shit.
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>>322931879
This one was uploaded in the other thread, it looks good enough imho
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>>322932185
If you think that looks good you need your fucking eyes testing.
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>>322932314
Still better than this, not much you can do starting from a 320x240 picture
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>>322932314

I find the results pretty decent considering the source pictures.
I'm never upscalling anything ever again in Photoshop.
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>Zidane
>Steiner
>Vivi
>Eiko

the GOAT party
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>>322933107
This one would never work ingame, it's too blurry, the 3d models would stick out too much
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>>322933384

I know, that's the one I did in Photoshop. Compare it to >>322931331
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https://a.pomf.cat/dkyjwc.png
posting from other thread
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>>322931331
Is this just an image upscaler or is there a way to make the actual game look this good??
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>>322933634
waifu is too good

are modders actually going to fix the game? that would be cool.

think emulating it would still be better for uncapping the frame rate though.

>>322933882
it's possible to replace the textures of any game.
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>>322933882

Just the upscaler, check it out
http://waifu2x.udp.jp/
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>>322934061
Okay, cool thank you!

>>322933983
Yeah I suppose thats true but I don't have the wherewithal to do that on my own unfortunately. Maybe someone will come out with it after the FFIX PC version comes out, that would be great.
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What's going on here, is someone going to mod the original HD backgrounds into the Steam version?
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>>322933634
took the nnedi3 upscale and upscaled it with waifu for shits and giggles
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>>322931879
>>322932314
Go back playing cod
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>>322934438
IIRC square doesnt even have the original backgrounds anymore
Anons here are just trying to upscale the ones better than square
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>>322934807
sorry i was such a faggot. im just in a bad mood today.
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>>322931331
Nice
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How do I use the nnedi3 upscaling method?
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>>322931331

have to say, looks good
50 times better than a simple bilinear/quad sqaling

Square-enix are a bunch of lazy bastards
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>>322934438
If only we still had the original renders. Nah we're just fucking around. There is a project for ffvii where modders are recreating the prerendered backgrounds but until someone decides to do that we are stuck with the fucked up backgrounds in the steam version. >>322932597
Like what the fuck I can see seams in squares upscale and shit.
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>>322934936
The original backgrounds are still out there though
http://www.jakerowell.com/blog/category/portfolio/games/final-fantasy-ix/
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Pretty crazy how people are already posting better backgrounds before the game is even out. I can understand why SE didn't want to do it though. Even though I think the edited images look way better.
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I never beat IX. I had a burned copy as a kid but there was something wrong with it and when I got to the moment where you do a sort of mock 'battle' like a theater play the game would freeze any time one of the enemies did an "SFX" move.
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>>322936804
woops
>>322931468
I gave it a try although only 2x.
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>>322936908
What tool is that, I just downloaded every static background in the game
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>>322936908

I'm guessing your method preserves a bit more of the noise, which is cool. Would be nice to combine it with waifu's hard edges I guess.
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>>322931331
That looks really bad though.

Still better than the vaseline smeared screens they're giving us on the steam page.
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>get addicted to playing tetra master
>buy cards
>lose
>go broke
>grind to get more cards

Fuck this game how do they expect me to progress when the card game is more engaging than the actual story
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>>322937272
I'm just using avisynth scripts because as far as I know there isn't an image software that uses nnedi3 (even though there should be). For this one I used

ImageSource("path to image here")
ConverttoYV12() ---(so I can use xsharpen)
nnedi3_rpow2(rfactor=8) ---(8x upscale using nnedi3)
sharpen(1) ---(generic sharpening)
xsharpen(60,60) ---(xsharpen plugin)
lanczos4resize(1088, 732) ---(downscaling back to 2x)

Theres a lot of documentation for avisynth I only kinda bumble through because I used to be interested in this kind of stuff. I'm not really sure how to render it just as an image file so I've been using MeGui to open the avs as a video and then just taking screenshots of the preview window.
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>>322938020

Multiplayer mod when.
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>>322931468
640p is really low resolution for a digital painting like that. I wonder if Square lost the source images.
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does anyone known if the steam version will let me choose between playing the new hd etc stuff and playing the game exactly as it was?

also why the fuck are there 4gb of ram and directx 11 compatible reccomended requirements
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>>322933263
Nah mate. While Eiko is a specialist Support, Garnets summons were better and she still had the Support skills needed to get you through.
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>>322938192
Ffix already allows 2 players while in battle
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>>322938504

They actually did.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=551612
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>>322938794
>In battle
No one cares about battle though. The only good potential for MP would be through Tetra Master or, if Square Enix suddenly decided they weren't lazy shits, a Festival of the Hunt style gamemode.
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Honestly I'll just play the pc version as-is until graphic mods come out. Even with how many times I've played it on PS1, PS3, and with an emulator on pc, I would like to see how the definitive pc version plays.

save editor when?
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>>322939113
>tetra master

I love FF9 as much as the next guy, but nigga that shit was awful. Inferior to triple triad in literally every way.

>Festival of the Hunt

now THIS i can get behind
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To any people that take up the task of fixing the port, good speed. You guys are the real heroes. Feel free to add your names to the credits.
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>>322939495

It's godspeed anon, but yes I agree.
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>>322939495
>>322939919
>people who don't exist yet

I'll be waiting for someone to remake the backgrounds
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A part of me hopes that they fixed the hidden stat scaling to be less bullshit, but I know they won't.
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>>322940531

You might actually die before that happens.
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>>322930484
Storage: 20 GB available space
TWENTY GIGABYTES

TWENTY
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>>322941135
Welp I'll die content knowing I never had to play with ffix pc's fucked up backgrounds. I'll probably play it anyway
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>>322940531
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>>322941264

I think they do it purposely to dissuade pirates.

Because people aren't going to dnl 20 gigs to pirate a ps1 game, they'll just get the ps1 version.
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>>322931879
>>322932314
beggars can't be choosers, nig
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>>322941745
Cheapest and dirtiest way I could think of to counter the jarring contrast.
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>>322942261
And yeah, I realize it's horrible and fake scanlines are terrible. I realize that. I was just thinking at the cheapest possible thing you could do.
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>>322931331
>>322932185
>>322933634
I'd take a mod with these anyday over the original backgrounds.
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I keep asking but there's never any takers.

Has anyone tried FF IX: Unleashed? Just a hard mode mod for the game.
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Honestly it doesn't look too bad its just why did they have to upscale it with those FUCKING SEAMS. Its like that goddamn ffv remake with the square blocks in the meteor. I'd rather it be low res than have to spot seams and artifacts.
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>>322935309
> There is a project for ffvii where modders are recreating the prerendered backgrounds

Really?
Can you give me a link to the project?
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>>322941926
it also fucks real customers. it fucks them more than pirates.
real customers will have to DL 20gb, pirates maybe 600 mb (i dunno how big the rom is, but fuck let's even say 2 gb). in total as usual pirates are better.
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>Steam Version

How about no?
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>>322942681
http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15975.0
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>>322942835
>in total as usual pirates are better.

No, don't force some kind of moral superiority here. Both sides are in the wrong regardless.
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>>322942971
Marvelous.
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>>322942971
looks great, but considering when it started, and how many are done so far, there's going to be a long time until it's finished.
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>>322942971
Seriously, this shit is impressive. They have only started the past year the project?
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>>322942438
The problem is, most backgrounds are subtly animated, not static.
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>>322943372

This. Almost every screen has something actually moving in the pre-rendered images, and that opens a whole can of worms with touching them up.
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>>322943372
True
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>>322935309
It took Square only about two years or less to render FF7 with 1996 tech, it shouldn't take too long to re render everything with modern tech right? Granted SE had a lot of people working on it and rendering farms, but still.
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>>322943845

The problem is they lost the original assets.

Before you ask, "why would they lose it", think about it this way. The idea of the HD remaster was a completely foreign concept back then. Games were expected to die with their consoles, so why would they think they would ever use them again?
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SHiN out
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This is the best I can do with my knowledge of these kinds of tools
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>>322943372

Might now be THAT hard considering that they're just 2D animations. Maybe apply the upscalling to individual pieces and wait for the magic?
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>>322943845
>It took Square only about two years or less to render FF7 with 1996 tech, it shouldn't take too long to re render everything with modern tech right? Granted SE had a lot of people working on it and rendering farms, but still.

It's just a lot of time and effort. So you need a bunch of people actively working at it.

I think it was RE2 where the total time to completion for a scene was 2 weeks.
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>>322943983
Well I meant for the fan project, but yes, not many companies saved their dev assets back in the day.
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>>322944014
Original for comparison
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>>322944148

And in the case of KH1, it wasn't really their fault. The guy in Square who had the disk with the assets left the company at that point, and they didn't know where he was, and only he knew where that disk was.
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It'll look varying degrees of ugly whatever filter you apply.
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>>322942971
>>322940531
>>322935309
now THIS is a HD remake.. 10/10 would actually pay for again. i get pissed off seeing FF7 released on ps4, for £16.. its a 20 year old game i still have on disk for ps1, can emulate, and torrent for pc, But wait! new and improved for ps4. Shitty upscaled backgrounds and a fast forward button.. fuck off, why do i want to fast forward my game...
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>>322944167

I went waifu2x, twice.
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>>322944563
>£16
Someone's telling porkies.

It was half that the day when it was released and about 12 now.
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>>322945132
i meant $
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/final-fantasy-vii/cid=UP0082-CUSA01875_00-FINALFANTASY7ZZZ
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>>322930484
Started up FFIX on emulator and here is how it looks...
Wish they had the original cg background images to work with..
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Waifu2x is magical.
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>>322944698
That still looks really bad.
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