How can anyone stand to play Witcher 3 on consoles considering the PC has graphics this beautiful at 60 fps.
Seriously i understand buying a PS4 for all the exclusives.
But its literally buying inferior hardware because the console manufactures are holding the games hostage.
Yeah I could never play Witcher on anything but PC. I am about to head to Skellige (or rather, I finished all the story quests up to that point, still have lots of stuff in Velen to unlock).
It's the best game I've probably ever played.
I spent a lot on my PC like 5 years ago. It still works great, and all I ever have to do usually is replace the GPU. Hard drive went up recently but that's a simple cheap fix.
It's always a better investment to get a PC.
I played through witcher 3 once on console and enjoyed it
I'm waiting a year or two until the definitive edition comes out and then upgrading my pc to play it on there
it's the only game vaguely worth upgrading for
I DUN UNDURSTAN WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PAY $800 TO BUILD DER OWN PC
I DUN UNDURSTAND WHY, I AM SO SMART. I JUST DUN UNDURSTAND. PEASUNS HAS NO LOGIC I AM SO SMURT
CONSOLES MENUFACTURORS R HOLDING THE GAME THEY MADE HOSTAGE BY NOT RELEASING ON MUH PC THE MUSTARD RACE.
I DUN CURE IF I SOUND LIKE A COMPLETE RETARD, I JUST LIKE GAMES. I AM RETARD PC MUISTARD RACE AND I AM PROUD. EAT SHIT YOU CONSOLE PISSANTS
Of course there is. On PC you can also emulate consoles so you have hundreds of games better than Witcher 3. Yet you're playing TW3 instead. Why? Because preferences. Same reason why people play on on console instead of spending time building a PC for three times the cost. Preferences. There exists always something better. Someone with 4K PC will think you a pleb. And you think consoles a pleb. Yet who gives a shit so long as you enjoy the games you play? The console player isn't interested in better. He's happy with what he got. Same as you are. Even though there exists better for both you. I don't buy PS4 games when I can get it on PC for the record.
Stay mad consolepissant while I play GTA V at 30 frames more than your glorified DVD player can push
>What exactly is your point?
Read the posts I was responding to.
I'll give you a hint: Look at the greentext.
I know reading comprehension and critical thinking is difficult for you, but I know you can do it.
I agree. That's why I buy games on the pc to see them play to the best visuals and performance and wait for consoles to get hacked so I can pirate all their games. Consoles get enough casuals so pirating won't hurt it much. Having the games on the pc ensures they don't become obsolete like a lot of games are now that the ps3 and 360 are defunct.
This is the most reasonable post. Casuals on console are fine since they make the bulk of the sales. But it's without a doubt better to play on PC where games are better preserved.
I think those build are a mediocre idea, they're decent now, but they'll need upgrading in too much time
I3 are expensive for what they are, I'd jump on an i5, dump the gpu at start, and spend more on other components (decent 500+ PSU, better case, etc). Then save money for the gpu, and hope something new gets released because the mid tier is pretty shit right now
>damn niggas they really did downgrade the game entirely
Agreed, some of the textures are absolute ass. I'll be so happy once the "shitty-looking filler-packed open world" trend dies out and devs start making linear games (which have dramatically better graphics and optimization, not to mention actual level design) featuring large levels with a central hub.
>I'll be so happy once the "shitty-looking filler-packed open world" trend dies out and devs start making linear games (which have dramatically better graphics and optimization, not to mention actual level design) featuring large levels with a central hub.
The open world meme has gone too far.
That's my point. Emulation on consoles is bad and limited to select titles. Take mass effect 1 on the xbone vs it on pc in high res and at 60 fps with compromise. Then you have dragon's dogma that is getting released that gives the game justice. That and emulation of the wii, psp and other soon to be emulated systems that make older games look great. Recent titles run at 60 fps and look better too.
Though consoles DO get the most people on them due to being so damn cheap. I wish sony and ms would release high end consoles together because the casuals would be forced to buy them and we'd get better looking games. People buy 700 dollar phones every year so milk it out of them.
Same. The hardware just isn't there to allow for huge expansive open worlds that are extremely detailed inside and out. Which is fine, there are ways around this without making you feel claustrophobic.
We're seeing a move towards server load and less client load. So, if anything, internet quality is going to be way more important than hardware capabilities. Although, not stating those will remain stagnant.
It only flopped because MS priced the 360 at fucking 400 and sony had to decrease the price to 400 in a year.
If BOTH MS and sony price the consoles at 800 bucks, what are the casuals gonna do? Not buy a system? These retards follow the trend they NEED their fifa and cod. Just force them in a situation where they have to buy an expensive platform.
Not really. They either have completely different combat systems, turn based, or have similar systems where pressing buttons faster wins.
The only combat systems better, are those in games like that upcoming medieval game where swordplay does in fact matter.
Witcher's combat is absolute trash. It's shallow, monotonous, repetitive, and poorly-implemented. Even mainstream reviewers, who are notorious for approving of subpar combat, are calling it mediocre.
I'm guessing you're the same person who tries to say that Arkham's combat is amazing and that anyone who disagrees just "isn't playing it on the hardest difficulty." As if the hardest difficulty magically implements combat depth.
congratulations retard. you are proof that mustards hold back gaming, not consoles. go and pirate more and keep wondering why pcucks get games years later and devs dont bother porting for you entitled cunts.
>I'm guessing you're the same person
Nope. If your argument relies on assumptions, you can just end that shit here.
>even mainstream reviewers
I don't care for what mainstream reviewers think, I'm asking for your view on it.
I can agree with
What combat isn't? Isn't combat effectively centered around the same repetitive tasks?
>If your argument relies on assumptions
Your argument of "Witcher's combat is good" relies on the assumption that having braindead combat is acceptable as long as its an RPG.
That's why you immediately asked "what other RPGs have better combat?" You can't explain why Witcher's combat is acceptable on your own, thus you differ to other games.
> "Witcher's combat is good"
Except, I haven't proclaimed such in this thread. I've asked about games you think have better combat. Asking that doesn't automatically mean I believe Witcher has the best, or even good, combat. I can still readily think it's dull.
Again, don't rely on assumptions. Also why did you avoid my question about combat being repetitive in general?
>Again, don't rely on assumptions
Your entire argument is based on assumptions and nitpicking without refuting the central point.
>Also why did you avoid my question about combat being repetitive in general?
Because Witcher's combat lacks depth, as I already explained. Why did you ignore my statement when I said "It's shallow, monotonous, and poorly-implemented"?
Why are you making all these assumptions and fallacious arguments? In your own fucktarded words, "you can just end that shit here."
All you have to do is mention one Japanese game. Westerners can't into combat. Souls games have better combat is an easy one. Dragons dogma, Dmc, ninja Gaiden black, hell even revengence.
This generation is worse than ever to be a console pleb thanks to the shit tier underpowered hardware
every remotely graphics-pushing game is either "30 fps with drops" or "900/720p for stable 30 fps" on consoles, I don't know how these people stand it
>tfw I have a 860m laptop
>tfw I have it on overclock 24/7 and it never goes above 70C
>tfw I play Witcher 3 on med-high 1080p and average 35-40 fps
>tfw I play Evil Within on med-high 1080p and average 35-40 fps
>tfw I play Fallout 4 on med-high 1080p and average 45-50 fps
>all these games drop into the 20s on consoles
>tfw my shitty mid-range laptop outperforms consoles
I had trouble getting into it at first. I got it in June with a gfx card, but didn't really get far into it until November. Just gotta get a hang of the combat and movement system and really listen to the story and dialogue. I also recommend using the alternative movement system.
Not him but in the longrun PC will always be cheaper
Absolutely reasonable for an 860m. I have an 870m in my MSI Ghostbook and it kicks absolute ass for the size and price
>average steam users have shit PCs, you must too!
Exactly. Consolefriends constantly bring up the Steam hardware survey to try and rub it in our faces.
It's like, I don't care if someone plays LoL on a mediocre laptop. It does not affect me. I don't understand what kind of point they're making.
My 960 doesn't somehow get weaker based on how many laptop owners there are.
>have a low tier PC that can play most of its good games, no recent ports though
>buy PS4 for exclusives
>buying Witcher 3 for PS4 in a sale is a lot cheaper than upgrading my rig
Also, the game is not that much better on PC than the console versions, nothing that would justify playing on PC if playing on a console is cheaper.
PS4 costs 350 bucks
A decent PC which would be able to run this at 60fps costs minimum 1000$
For most people gaming is a casual hobby, hence no desire to spend money for something you can play on a cheaper hardware at the loss of smoother experience. Plus exclusives.
Haha, very predictable. Anyone with less than a 970/390 gets shamed into oblivion on /v/. It's funny though, because the 960 is still twice as strong as a PS4 and plays games like Crysis 3 at 1080p/60fps/high settings. But yes, it's not as strong as a 970, although it is half the price if bought on sale.
Hell, my GPU is similar to 960 in power. But you should never buy the low-end deal of what's offered. Unless you bougt it on sales which you did then 970 is always a smarter deal.
Honestly, it's more enjoyable if you use a controller. I feel like I'm in more control than if I use a keyboard and mouse, which is strange but it helped me get into it.
I enjoy the story and lore though, so if you really aren't into those you may not get the bug.
It's one of the best looking games out there IMO. I can't think of any open world game who looks this good, has a combat system which is at least decent and fun and has a compelling story with RPG elements. Sure interactions with lots of NPCs are limited, but it's sweet seeing them actually do stuff, go to eat, sleep and such in a realistic way, unlike Skyrim or AC Unity presented it.
It also has an awesome long, detailed, salty, uncut and hard DLC and NG+ options.
The only RPG this good in the last 4 years was Bloodborne, which could be described with half the stuff I already said, and it's a console exclusive.
So if you have a PS4 AND a PC, play both and have fun.
BUT IF YOU MOTHERFUCKERS HAVE A GAYMING PC AND BUY IT FOR A CONSOLE YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELVES.
Do you know how many Jap games PC would've gotten without Playstation?
Less than you're going to admit.
Whats wrong with the colors ?
Look at the green. Why they didn't stick to the 2014 trailer ?
I am a poorfag, but I save up until I had 1200 euros to buy a good PC. I can play like a billion of games on steam and emulation, and that's just the free stuff. Every birthday, extra work day, christmas is at least 3 triple a preorders with DLCs because they are cheap.
You are just not doing shit right with your money. Even the poorest fucker can afford to go on a 5 star hotel for 2 weeks if he saves and makes sacrifices for his enjoyment.
Enjoy shitty graphics and half the games I have, maybe play 2 exclusives every 3 years until PS5 or Sexbox 2 comes out with no retrocompatibility and you're plebstuck again.
Or maybe you have a Nintendo Wiiaboo and are playin' the same shit since 1984, then you have no right to complain.
>How can anyone stand to play Witcher 3 on consoles considering the PC has graphics this beautiful at 60 fps
Are you aware that there's almost no difference between console and PC since they downgraded/optimized the game for console ?
It does matter you fucking shit because without Playstation's userbase in Japan, many Jap games wouldn't even exist. Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, SFV, MGSV, Final Fantasy XV are all happening on PC because of the Playstation userbase making those games profitable ventures in the first place. PC is good money for the low port costs. But it's not more than that. PS4, especially for Jap devs, is priority platform. And in some cases, the reason they're making the game in the first place.
Are you aware that there's an absolutely massive difference between console and PC since one is 30fps/medium-low settings with drops and the other is 60fps/very high settings?
Nigga when I upgraded this computer devs were making computer games still. Then they just go and abandon the market without warning. I'll never upgrade my pc ever again. there is literally no reason to. Some of us got tricked into thinking things were going to stay the same as when the ps3 was new, and devs actually still made computer games because of the superior hardware. Now they think they can get away with making people play console ports on thousand dollar hardware. uh nigga fuck no I'm done with computer hardware and this is coming from a person thats owned a computer instead of consoles since the snes.
>PC is good money for the low port costs. But it's not more than that. PS4, especially for Jap devs, is priority platform.
That's because the japs have a bias towards their own people though. Can't say it's wrong but that is the main reason. It's also the reason they block many of their games on steam from their own people in japan. To keep them in their japanese consoles/ecosystem. Sony is pretty much the face of japanese gaming.
but your wrong its not medium low settings. It is however 30 fps. But considering even a 6 year old video card is 5 times stronger than the video cards in the consoles and still has trouble running it at 60 fps is pretty telling. the games are designed and optimized to run on consoles could you imagine if games designed and optimized to run on computers? Man that would be a glorious day. But they wont they already have thier bullshit excuse that 90% of people bootleg their games. which by the way is total bullshit.
So average PC players got a nvidia 980 ?
And console version is more like high setting look at the comparaison on youtube.
Ofc if you take a screenshot you will see some minor differences like shadows or lod on the back ground.
But over all the effects/texture/lighting are the same. This is why fire/smoke effect are shit even on PC.
Yes? Japanese industry will always be geared to Japan first and foremost. Same reason western publishers make games for west first and not fucking China. It's common sense. Either way, my point stands. Without those awful Playstation consoles you so hate, chances are PC would end up with less Jap games. Play your games in 60 fps and feel good about it. But don't pretend the console userbase isn't part of making sure that happens. Because I can assure you that a game on MGSV's scale wouldn't have happened if there weren't 4 million PS4 owners ready to buy it in the first week.
Dude they run exactly the same, only that the console version runs at medium settings. Medium settings on TW3 without the nvidia only effects is easily doable at 30 fps with a 750ti.
>PC has graphics this beautiful at 60 fps
What PC? TW3 is one of the worst optimized games I've ever played. Saint's Row 2 tier optimization.
My TW3 had graphics like PS1 game, resolution less than 800x600, ini tweaks and still runs with less than 30 FPS.
You have a shit pc then, TW3 is really well optimized, I've seen it run beautifully on mid tier machines, easily.
You sound like my cousin: ABLOO ABLOO THIS GAME IS NOT OPTIMIZED, well he has a fucking 5 years old laptop with a quadro graphics card, who would have guessed.
>TW3 is really well optimized
It really isn't. It's ultimately just a PS4 game that struggles on Kepler cards to the point of a 680 and good CPU giving you the same performance as on PS4.
I know this has nothing to do with this circle jerk of thread but I can really see TW3 being Fable 3 for me. Combat systems are similar, both are semi open world, both have charming worlds, the magic system is also similar, the rpg aspects are similarly limited compared to other games, event the movement feels similar, sidequests are cool and much more. I'm not saying that as an insult Fable and The Witcher rpg's are the only modern WRPG worth any shit.
He's refusing to post his PC. I have a friend that runs it 1080p on medium settings on his 750ti, not 60fps, but it runs well and fluid.
So no, it's not shit optimized.
>680 and good CPU giving you the same performance as on PS4.
M8, Its not even hard building a PC. the "most" time consuming event is making sure everything is compatible.
Even then you got hundreds of guides and places to visit to help you, I aint gonna feel sorry for dinguses who spend money on a PS4/Xbone only to find they're locked into this "generation" of games.
Better, actually, now that a huge lighting-fixing mod has came out
and the fps hit is next to zero
With a decent GPU (3+gb of vram, modern) you can add in a mod that vastly increases the LOD and the end result is 90% of the pre-downgrade, pretty much. There was really no huge downgrade, it's just that for some reason CDPR choose a nauseating color palette.
Pretty much only graphical gripes with the game:
>grass looks meh when its not moving (screenshots)
>water is mediocre at best
>nvidia effects kill your frames
>some indoor scenes still appear a little flat