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how do you tell if these games are any good? they almost always have a near 100% rating.
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Just watch the anime
It has naked lesbians making out and shit
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>>322866821
They aren't. The only people who review them are already fans.
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It should be obvious instantly that that "game" is not good in any way.
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pirate it
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ask yourself this : who are the only people that buy them, or would want something like that associated with their accounts?
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>>322866821
>how do you tell if these games are any good?
You don't. they almost always have a near 100% rating.

People who buy them already know what they're getting.
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. . .watch a video or play it yourself?

Stop waiting for others to judge it for you.
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>>322866821
Go check on vndb

And it's an eroge, not a game
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>>322866821
>giving your money to Sekai Project
Reminder they're SJW scums who censor games they publish if there's "problematic content" inside.
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>>322867138

If you want a reason to hate Sekai Project aside from that, there's also the fact that they've got 10 outstanding kickstarters and are in the middle of running another right now.
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>>322867138
well I mean that scene blatantly implied child rape. it wasn't just slightly "problematic" content

>>322866821
https://vndb.org/v5154
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>>322867276
They've been in the red ever since they were created. They're going to go bankrupt soon.
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>>322867350
>I'm a retard who support censorship
Buy a gun (I guess you live in America), put it in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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>>322867407

Not if people keep giving them money.
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>>322866821
It's amazing just how thoroughly this stuff has taken over Steam. I remember a few short years ago, we were joking about weebshit being on Steam, with misty-eyed sighs of a brighter future. Well, it arrived, and it sucks. It's all deviantart-tier bullshit and massively overpriced. Thanks gabe. Still no anime tab, either.
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>>322867138
>M-muh feelings are hurt
>I'm going to r-r-report this!
Close the game, request a refund. That straightforward.
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>>322867350
We really should censor the book Lolita I agree. Such things just shouldn't exist
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>>322867490
Someone posted a screencap of one of Sekai Project founder saying they might go bankrupt in 2016.
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>>322867138

I read that. That's just standard PR apologetic frill. Of course they're going to avoid problematic content, they're selling on Steam not DMM or Getchu.

The less risks of lawsuits, the better. Sometimes it's not about a fucking agenda. I know this because I have to deal with COPPA on a daily basis.
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>>322867138
I'm sad this is the only reason faggots like you aren't buying their shit, not because they release overpriced not video games VNs and shitty dev projects made in 10 hours.
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>>322867668
Good.
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>>322867695
But anon I never bought any of their stuff to begin with.
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>>322867668
>1 like
>by the guy who asked the question

topkek
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>>322867695
I'm glad this Yohjo shit got blow the fuck out anyway regardless of reasons behind it.

Then again I'm not a fan of Sekai Project to begin with.
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>>322867695
looking at gameplay footage, Yohjo Simulator looks like one of the "shitty dev projects made in 10 hours"
Surprised it even had a publisher
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>>322867843
That makes senses, outside /vg/, not many people hate Sekai project.
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>>322867927
Hey it looks better than Revolution 60
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>>322867959

/jp/ hates them pretty hardcore
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>>322867857
Are you retarded m8? Why are you glad publishers are censoring video games?
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>>322867138
>Used to be just a simple website, with a basic forum translating School Days
>Has become this monster after selling out to JAST

FUCK that's sad, they even deleted all traces of their old selves, forum and all. Years worth of posts gone in the blink of an eye for this.
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>>322868028
You're the retarded one.

I said I don't give a shit about the reasons. I'm just glad this shitty dev projects made in 10 hours cash grab got blown the fuck out. Shit or censored shit is still a shit.
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>>322867668
How can those guys even make red numbers?

They never pay for anything. Everything gets kickstarter'd
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>>322866821
>how do you tell if these games are any good?
Does the game have animu?
>yes
Then it is actually shit. The only people who played the garbage are weebtards who circlejerk to weebshit.

GET THIS GARBAGE OFF OF STEAM!! STOP CATERING TO CONSOLE CONVERTS WHO ARE BORED WITH THEIR BLOODBORNE/NETFLIX MACHINE!

FUCK YOU GABEN!! JUST MAKE HL3 RIGHT FUCKING GOD DAMN NOW YOU FAT FUCK!!
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>>322866821
You can't.
Even this shit has a 51% approval rating
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>>322868175
>GET THIS GARBAGE OFF OF STEAM!! STOP CATERING TO CONSOLE CONVERTS WHO ARE BORED WITH THEIR BLOODBORNE/NETFLIX MACHINE!
It's only going to get better, Anon. Worse for you, but better for everyone who isn't literally retarded.
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>>322866821
well the one you posted was good enough to get an anime adaptation a year or two ago.
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>>322868154
Weed and hookers.
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>>322868047
>FUCK that's sad, they even deleted all traces of their old selves, forum and all
Not really no. If you're that interested in knowing about them, here's Kanna/Raymond Qyan, one of Sekai Project founder.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=520183&postcount=812
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>>322868150
You're a fucking retard. The game is coming back this year but censored.
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>>322866821
Michiru a best.
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>>322868350
>being this stupid
It already got blown the fuck out. I couldn't care less what's going to happen to it next. But hey, you go enjoy your censored shit, I don't really care.
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>>322868474
>supporting censorship
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>>322866821
>boku no vndb.org

this one's pree gud so far tho.

sachi best girl
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>>322868240
>but better for everyone who isn't literally retarded

>playing weebshit
>not literally retarded
I think you are confused, anon.
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>>322868175
Fuck off you casual plebeian, you can't even tell VNs from games so your opinions are automatically void.
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>>322868175
>"stop liking stuff i don't like!"
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>>322868565
That's not Mitcher
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>>322868676
>OP calls it a game
>quote OP
Direct your asspain to OP the faggot, faggot.
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The problem with most japanese anime-style games is that only fans really give them a try.

Grisaia on Steam is a shitport without ero and no way to patch it back in.
Neptunia games have ratings around 96-98% as well just cause only Nepfanboys buy them.
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>>322866821
don't buy it, dont support the jews using kickstarters to fund already fan translated visual novels
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>>322868710
>"Stop hating stuff I like"
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>>322868442
My nigga.
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>>322867138
Yo, I agree with you on the Yohjo thing, but I'm really hyped for Kindred Spirits on the Roof.

Plus it will probably be the only thing I've bought from them.
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>>322868931

I can't wait for Nepnep to question what keeps the islands of Gameindustri floating and they go on an epic quest to meet the fat man who is the CPU of the Steamwerkz.
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>>322866821
The ratings are not to be taken seriously. Weebs rating porn high is the same thing as shit eaters liking scat porn.
The problem is that you have to buy that garbage to review it, and nobody except desperate virgins do buy it, so they are the only ones to rate it. Same goes for any fanservice game ever like neptunia
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>>322869281
>Kindred Spirits on the Roof

That's mangagamer. They're "one of the good ones", as far as japanese porn game companies go, in that the only offensive thing they do if jew you to pay more for the uncensored version.
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>>322866821
Windows 7 is best girl.

Don't buy localized Sekai Project/Frontwing shit. Both are insane jews.
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>>322866821
>Playing Americunt VNs on Steam
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>>322866821
This is what always happens with niches titles. Only those who know they'll like it will buy it. they will of course rate it high too. Now anyone who doesn't like it won't even try it so you won't see bad reviews.
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I still got the fan-translated version on my computer. Play that or the Sekai Project one?
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>>322872543

Do you want to pay money for no porn?
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>>322868154

Let me guess,
>plan an unrealistic release schedule
>kikestarter barely covers the budget
>the schedule doesn't hold
>salary costs skyrocket
>poor sales, revenue doesn't cover shit
>we're in the reds mates
>learn nothing
>repeat
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>>322872886

The entirely anime porn game translation business is an incestuous orgy of a handful of contractors used by everyone.

Literally none of the people actually translating Sekai Project's games are salaried. The guy who translated grisaia for example, went on to a mangagamer contract right after.
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>>322872543
>pay for translated game I already have?
What do you think?
The fan translation is pretty much the offical translation
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>>322867668
>mfw this is real
https://twitter.com/aztop009/status/678673467617763329
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>>322867350
>implied child rape
Only implied if that's where your mind went.
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>>322866821
It starts off fun but turns into a tear fest
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>>322867668
This makes me happy, Sekai project is a fucking awful company. The VN medium should really be left in the hand of the fans. Grisaia is almost a straight copy of the fan translation. And least we not forget the Michiru Idol spinoff that got completely fucked.
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>EOPs buying neutered Steam versions of eroge

Why buy eroge with the ero removed, you keks?
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>>322866884
It's a pretty fair point, there's a huge slice of games wherein the only people likely to look at them or buy them let alone review them are going to be people with a vested interest or a fan already. Weeb games are a significant part of that slice.
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>>322867489
>SJWs are anti-gun and pro-censorship
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>>322875826
>Michiru Idol spinoff that got completely fucked
How?
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Read the negative reviews.
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>>322867138
Name a single Western publisher of Japanese PC games that doesn't do this.
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>>322866821
I download them for free.

It wasnt good.
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>>322867668
Who will bring Nekopara to Steam then
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>>322875978
Honestly, the ero is usually the shittiest part of these games.

The real issue is paying for an 'official' translation that's either worse than what you can get for free that isn't censored, or is just a complete copy of the fan translation.

Like, didn't they sell Clannad recently and it was basically the same as the original translation?
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>>322866821
Weebs are notorious for having shit tastes so no they aren't good
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>>322881141
Please, you're just not getting any eroge where the sex is actually good.

And yes, and Clannad always was like 40 bucks.
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>>322866821
>no H scenes
>no patch like Nekopara

Why bother?
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>>322866821
MICHIRU A BEST!
Grisaia is great, just be ready to read the longest common route ever.
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>>322881575
>likes Slutchiru
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>>322875826
>copy of the fan translation
you dingus know that koestl helped sekai with this, right?
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>>322881575
Fellow Mitcher fan!
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Does the Steam edition have English voices?
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>>322881990
Jesus, why would you want that?
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>>322866821
For a VN this is top of the line. It's not without flaws, the routes are a mixed bag and are in general worse than the common route, but it's still pretty good. If you're into VNs then just pick it up, you can't go wrong. If you're new to the genre just pirate it or something if you're afraid you'd get burned.
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>>322882146
I didn't mean to imply that I did.
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>>322866821
>game have h-scenes
>game has 100% score no matter what other flaws has

I am also to blame
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>>322882306
>For a VN this is top of the line.

本当ですか?
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>>322866821
>>322867668

>Seinarukana is 100% translated and ready to be released
>translators won't release it anyway because JAST bought the project or something and keeps it locked around somewhere in the basement
>meanwhile they keep shitting out crappy kusoge that nobody gives a shit

Let it burn to the ground
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>>322882759
本当だよ
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>>322882863
その理由を簡単に述べてきださい。

俺的には、グリザイアは悪くはないが、top of the lineというレベルに達していない。
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>>322882306
Objectively most accurate ranking of the routes, not the characters

Common > Trash > Liquid > Rape the Maids > Tits and Crevices > Senjougahara
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>>322878532
XSEED
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>>322883036
Trash was pretty trash, familia.

It should be near Crab on the tier list.
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>angelic howl
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>>322866821
>vn
>game
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>>322883103
I enjoyed it because it delved into Yuuji the most and interconnected events from the common route.

Not to mention it was the only route with an actual antagonist.
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>>322883138
very boring and overrated, best part was the final week and that was because it was finally over
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>>322883138
Its H scenes in Meikyuu are pretty cool.
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>>322883003
Don't kid yourself. Grisaia is kusoge through and through. It was a success because muh girls with psychological problems premise.
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>>322881360
>vol.2 in February
I wonder if Humble Bundle will do a Nekopara-themed daki cover like they did last year with Hatoful Boyfriend?
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>>322883321
I think you should tell that to this guy >>322882306
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>>322866821
Listen to the soundtrack on youtube. If a game has good music, it must be semi-tolerable at least.
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Remember back in 2005 when everyone inclined on /av/ read YMK, Tsukihime and Planetarian because there was fuck all else translated?
Who would have thought a decade later even that tiny community would be fleeced on steam?
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>>322883670
And ten years later you're here, still EOP. If only you used that time better.
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>>322883757
ここで永遠に。
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>>322883876
永久に?
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>>322883963
Zuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuto.
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>>322882759
I want you to take a good look at what comes out regularly and tell me with a straight face Grisaia is anywhere lower than the top 20%. You can be an elitist gook shitter all you want but you and me both know the large majority of the stuff that comes out is plain garbage. There's a reason why a lot of this shit goes untranslated.
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>All these people who haven't played Grisaia for the Juice
Buncha casuals
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>>322883973
It's kind of sad how Steam reviews for anime games are nothing but fishing for upvotes/funnies.
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I should probably get around to playing Grisaia. Is there a loli route at least?
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>>322866821


By not being a fucking casual.

You sound like a chad that has never played a videogame outside brownshooter asking how can you tell when a mario game is good

You filthy casual
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>>322884264
You don't have to add anime games there. Literally 90% of steam reviews are people trying to make unfunny jokes to get some dank upboats.
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>>322884070
You're clueless if you think the reason why things are untranslated is because they're bad. No company makes a VN, sees it sell in Japan and then thinks
>well it's trash, let's not translate it
Instead the idea of translating it doesn't even come to them, since they're 100% focused on the Japanese market.

And if you're talking about the English side, maybe you should check Mangagamer, they're translating tons of random third-grade nukiges, because they sell to EOPs. And fantranslations are practically non-existent nowadays, if we don't count attempts at machine translating from Fuwanovel, which go nowhere.

And hell, I doubt quality was Koestl's major concern when selecting what to translate, otherwise he could have chosen made VNs much better than Grisaia.

Which brings me to the fact that "top 20%" isn't "top of the line".

Also your choice of words
>You can be an elitist gook shitter all you want
suggests you're an EOP, so just shut up. All your ideas about majority of VNs are probably crap you read here on /v/ or some Reddit.

And no, I'm not denying there are many trashy VNs coming out all the time, but hey, reply like I'm doing it anyway.
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>>322884585
>Fate/Stay Night has no official translation despite spin-off games getting official translations, the anime AND spin-off anime getting official dubs and further games and anime planned for the future

I just want to find out how much of the translation was just the translators themselves and how much was Nasu being a weird fucker.
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>>322884585
(You)
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>>322884895
How about you try adressing my arguments?
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>>322884864
I kind of wanted to check but can't be bother to install that game again.
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>Game has no English version
>Fins manage to translate it

JUST
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>anime
File it to the trash immediately
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>>322884974
I'm not him, but I'm curious about these Jap only masterpieces /jp/ always brags about being able to read. Give me some names, preferable with youtube videos demonstrating the art and music quality. Because god knows the writing is only 30% of what makes a quality VN, 50% being music and 20% being art.
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I just realized that Nekopara is a hentai game.
Does the MC fucks every single one of the catgirls?
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>>322885439
ないしょのないしょ!
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>>322885521
>Lolis

No thanks.
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>>322884326
Makina is OK but honestly the common route is where 90% of the fun is.
The routes suck in general.
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>>322867138
So what the fuck was that scene even
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>>322885591
A guy standing near a little girl who is unconscious with her panties on the side. She's not even naked, as she's wearing a swimsuit.
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>>322885172
What a great time to be a finn.
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It might be true that VNs aren't "real" games, but that complaint went out of the window when Steam started selling software and shit.
It's not like not being video games makes them bad by default, that's like saying a book is awful because you can't play it.
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>>322885521
>All Sister Heroines
>All Loli Heroines
I am game.
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>>322867138
>Yohjo Simulator

I havent even bothered to try that.
Is there porn in it?
What do you even do in the game
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>>322884103
Yuuji being a smart ass was the best part of Grisaia, hands fucking down.

I've heard the later games go by a harem route or something. Is this true? Because I really hate harem routes.
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>>322885439
No, actually writing is the most important thing.

I'll name some untranslated VNs notable for their quality. I'll just their Japanese names, so you can just look up videos yourself on Youtube easily. Or their soundtracks, if you feel music is so important. You can also use the Japanese names to search on VNDB, that works too.

装甲悪鬼村正
WHITE ALBUM2
この青空に約束を―
素晴らしき日々
サクラノ詩
パルフェ
遥かに仰ぎ、麗しの
界でいちばんNG(だめ)な恋
最果てのイマ
穢翼のユースティア
俺たちに翼はない
戦女神ZERO
Dies Irae Acta Est Fabula
神咒神威神楽
相州戦神館學園
水月
黄昏のシンセミア
ものべの happy end

Well this are some that come to my mind now. I tried to include various genres. If there is any specific genre you're interested in, do tell.
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>>322885172

Mitä helvettiä?
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>>322868008
/jp/ will hate anything that supports filthy EOPs in any kind of way.
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>>322885828
What's Satoko's uncle doing in Grisaia?
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>>322885957
Someone decided to make a bad rip off of a bad game, goat simulator, but replace the goat with a small anime girl that headbutts things.

No porn, as far as I know.
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>>322886056
Then why is Sekai hated in the VN translation thread too? That's an EOP nest.
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>>322885973
http://www.apokalauta.org/he/res/6697.html
This might clear things up a bit
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>>322885926
This are the heroines for their new upcoming game.

Does it feel like a good combination of heroines for a new VN in 2016?
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>>322886181

But... why? There's no doubt he can speak English just fine so why the hell would you translate an eroge to Finnish where maybe few dozen people read it, instead of English where hundreds would read it?
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>>322886181
>Another VN in Finnish, but not english
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>>322885780
Well I mean I guess it's somewhat understandable, having the pantsu there on the side kinda makes you think they just added a swimsuit on her afterwards.
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>>322886383
>>322886423
Notice how he only translated the short trial?
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>>322886272
Dibs on the one with pink hair.
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>>322885968
What does NG stood for in Japanese?

No Good?
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>>322866821
For visual novels look at VNDB scores. It's generally decent measure of quality.
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>>322886468
Not anymore. A patch was released last month.
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>People arguing about literary masterpieces and other stupid bullshit
>I learned runes years ago to play Koihime Musou People really have odd expectations of the culture of cute.
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>>322886383
He did it just to see if the translation would work in finnish.
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>>322866821
That a fact?
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>>322886480
駄目

Yes, No Good.
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>>322886468
You also forgot this >>322885172
Which is of the full version, not the trial
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>>322885172
The translation is pretty bad. Sucks that you're not getting it, but you're not missing much.
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I think Steam has all of three good Visual Novels anyway.
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>>322886475
Her name translates to "Sweet Milk" and her family operates a milkery and she's noted to be especially skilled at extracting white liquids.
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Support official localizations of Alicesoft games by MangaGamer! You want Rance in English, right?
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>>322866821
Fans of this type of software are somehow similar to comix or book readers. They may dislike the plot but they always appreciate the work of creators. So it's good for them unless it's really terrible and short.
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>>322885172
>Chinese translation
中国人再赢啦!
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>>322886794
Which are you talking about? Clannad, Grisaia and Dengeki Stryker?
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>>322886794
Why make statements clearly based on lack of knowledge?
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>>322869101
weak bait. I gibb 2/10.
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>>322886960
Didn't know Steam even has Dengeki Stryker.

That VN wasn't good anyway, but removing H from it is actually an improvement.
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>>322886272
When is the new Iris game coming out anyway?

I feel like its been coming soon for months now
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>>322885968
>writing is the most important thing
The audiovisual experience is the only thing propping them up. Converted to standard prose, these books have terrible writing, some of the worst pacing in the written word. They wouldn't make it as paperbacks.
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>>322885965
From what I've heard the sequels follow the common route and with Yuuji doing only the relevant main plot parts of the girls routes.
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>>322887079
I liked it. Sure, it's not a masterpiece, but action is nice, and character humor is great.
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>all these shit VNs and eroge on steam
>Jutaijima still hasn't been translated
there seriously isnt any justice in this world
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>>322885172
Fins are Mongols who speak Hungarian after all.
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>>322887194
True ending is pure shit though.
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>>322885968
>Actually recommending Dies Irae

I mean if you like chuuni stuff it's ok but you might as well skip that and go straight to Muramasa.
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>>322886794
>three good visual novels

Besides Clannad only one I can think of is Grisaia, and its not even that great.
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>>322887140
How do you know when you clearly don't know?
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>>322866821
If the anime is anything to go by, This series really hates housepets, Loves shock value and the comedy is stale.

It try's to give the illusion of a believable story with shock value and drama, Only to turn around and make completely no sense afterwards.
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>>322887219
>Prism Ark will forever be dropped status
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>>322866821

Search it in VNDB. Except in a very few cases, it's actually very precise with the ratings.
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>>322887219
Nobody in their sane mind would fan-translate long nukige for free. And generally it's shorter nukige and plot-heavy stuff that sells officially.
2MB+ of script is huge undertaking when you're not sure how it'd perform.
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>>322866821
The only "good" vn from a gameplay standpoint is sengoku rance.

The rest are subject to your interpretation because they are novels with visuals.
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>>322887496
>The only "good" vn from a gameplay standpoint is sengoku rance.

Why do you make statements from the position of ignorance?
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>>322886598
>did a full translation of a ~5 hour game just to see if it would work in his language

The absolute madman
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>>322887325
How about The Devil on G-String?
I haven't read it so I wouldn't know, I just heard that it's supposedly great.
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>>322887219
>tfw fapping to the CGs every night
>tfw I will never experience it in its full glory
I just want to read that one girl drink that bottle of cum and listen to her swallowing it all, senpai
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>>322887527
Why would you expect any better from /v/ posters of all place?
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>>322887574
I wouldn't expect it to be so common.

How can someone claim that there are 3 good VNs in existence? That just makes it look like they only played 3 VNs in their life.
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>>322887574
Posting an image from xkcd makes me instantly want to disagree with whatever someone posted no matter what the content.
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>>322887354
魔法
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>>322887496
I can only hope that Haruka sells well enough that MangaGamer will consider working on other gameplay eroge.
Then you'll see. You'll all see.
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>>322887690
それは答えになっていない。
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>>322887659
>That just makes it look like they only played 3 VNs in their life.

Isn't that the case most of the time? Those people probably don't even know GIGA, Ninetail, or Eternal etc. exist.
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>>322887541
It's average at best tbqh, Kara no Shoujo and Sharin no Kuni does all that G-Senjou does and better.
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>>322887671

That's from Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, not xkcd.
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>>322887671
Congratulations, that's SMBC.
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>>322887783
I guess. So they shouldn't be making any general statements.
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>>322887671

How's the wind atop Mount Stupid, anon?
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>>322887824
>>322887812
inb4
>w-well that's just as bad! >:C
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mikandijapan/libra-of-the-vampire-princess-visual-novel-english
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>>322887801
The characters from G-Senjou are good, but yeah. Sharin is superior TWIIIIIIST game(with better character), and KnS is better detective story.
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>>322887690
>魔法
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>>322887801
>>322887921
Too bad KnS is complete shit 'detective game'.
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>>322887801
Music and ending to G-Senjou is better even if everything else was in Sharin.

The entire jail scene made my tear up like a bitch and I still can't hear the song without feeling the effects.
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>>322887739
>50 hours
>50 hours
>50 hours
>50 hours
L-LITERATURE IS LONG
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>>322888018
It's also noted to be a rip-off of Mouryou no Hako.
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>>322888041
言いたいことは?
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>>322888036
That scene was the only G-Senjoiu saving grace.
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>>322887921
>KnS
>I was just pretending to be addicted to drugs the whole time! How convenient!

Fuck the fuck off, that shit was just as bad.
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Talking about translations, how slow can mangagamer possibly be?

And where is Umineko?
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>>322888018
Thankfully sequel streamlined the detective shit. Fuck getting your good ending ruined because you examined scenery in wrong order. Fuck getting it ruined because not finding two pixels between book.
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>>322888209
That is in Sharin. The game had its share of stupid twists, but Ririko reveal was fucking amazing.
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>>322888271
I mean, I see where they were trying to go with it, but the execution is complete ass. Thank fuck they knew it's bad though.
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>>322888248
>And where is Umineko?

In hell.
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>>322888368
Ririko reveal is good, but Maou reveal, holy shit, that one is so bad.
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>>322888248
>how slow can mangagamer possibly be?
Depends totally on translator on each project. Arunaru went through Haruka on lightning speed, as did whoever did Tokyo Babel.
Meanwhile Kouryuu has been going at Da Capo 3 for like... three years now? I think?
>And where is Umineko?
I hear it's entering testing soon? Dunno where I got that from, could be wrong.
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>>322888416
Natsuhi please, put that rifle down.
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>>322888209
Still better than "it was just my brother that looks exactly like me :^)" I also love onee-sans and incest so Sharin no Kuni appeals to me more than G-Senjou.
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Reminder that you'll never get ぼくの一人戦争.
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>>322888393
It was the first time Innocent Grey tried style like that, so I can forgive the clunkiness. Caucasus improved on it already, but I doubt we'll see that translated ever.
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>>322888569
>49 votes total, average 6.53 (decent)
kusoge get out
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>>322888193
Most of the early stuff with Haru was great.

Haru in general carried the game.
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>>322888181
PING PONG
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>>322888676
At least use statistics from a relevant site.
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>2016
>not knowing Japanese yet
Enjoy getting fucked by shitty companies like this.
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>>322888368
>those female underwears hidden inside Kenichi's suitcase
>that blue hair chick making extra food for Kenichi all the time
>All his "monologues" the MC does he ends with "right, sis?"

Man I felt really stupid for not getting the big reveal until it was literally right in the middle of my screen, the game kept dropping hints left and right.
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>>322888694
It would have been even better if MC is actually Maou, like how he is in every other route.
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>>322888569
>Implying I need to understand everything when machine translations do it for me

It doesn't translate everything perfectly, but it's enough to understand the context and what they're saying.
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>>322888793
Well, you obviously are really stupid, but that reveal surprising you isn't one of the signs. The reveal itself was dumb as shit because it introduced some of the most nonsensical bollocks you could think of. The obligation to "not exist" you are punished for your crime by us forcing everyone to ignore you or be deported to some hellish prison... The writing had some really fucking dumb shit up until then, but there it literally pulled it's pants down, shit in it's hands, rubbed it all over its cheeks and then put their pants on their head and did a handstand.
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>>322889031
No need to repeat yourself, you're still a cúck.
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>>322889125
>cuck
>still censoring it

I think you don't know what it means. I'm the one taking your games and playing them with no effort needed, fuccboi. While you learned a dead language which has no use.
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>>322889031
Machine translations only work for simple titles with basic dialogue, and then you only really get context.

You're literally ruining games for yourself if you play them with machine translation. By all means, use it for some generic H-RPG to get the gist of the generic story of a female knight getting fucked by orcs, but it's not something you want to use in an actual story-based VN.
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>>322878047
Shit translation
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>>322889261
We already discussed it like some time ago.
So just shut up and continue cucking yourself.

>>322889286
No need.
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need to setup a burner steam account for games like this

my friends will not have it with me if I get a game like this
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The Doujins are good dess
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>>322889379
>cuck in denial

What's the matter, sissy? Mad that everyone can play your games?
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>>322866821
Grisaia is fantastic, but not worth buying on steam what with censorship and a 14 price tag in the sale. Just torrent it for free
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>>322885965
Yuuji fucked every single girl in Grisaia 1
2nd game confirms this
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>>322889405
Are your friend really that much of a rigid cunts? I mean, I'd rather don't have these kind of games on my Steam account either, but if someone in my group actually do get it we would just laugh about it for a week then forget about it.
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>>322889308
But it was shit anyway.

Going from koestl, who is one of the better translators out there, to some fuckwit was probably a pretty big quality drop, though.
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>>322875826
There's problems with Sekai Project, but at least look at legit points. Grisaia isn't the problem.
>Grisaia is almost a straight copy of the fan translation
Because fan-translation team worked on official one, and they already put shitton of work to base script.
>Michiru Idol spinoff that got completely fucked
That's because of other fan-translator from Fuwanovel who got DMCA, but then decided to send his work to Frontwing, who then demanded that Sekai released it.
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>>322875826
>The VN medium should really be left in the hand of the fans
Sure, it's great when only overhyped shit gets translated at questionable quality. And I'm sure companies also love it when the fans think that there's nothing wrong with them getting the games for free.

Sekai is shit though.
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>>322889569
Second game retcons basically the majority of the first game and goes with the worst routes as canon. Mitchiru is just schizophrenic for example rather than getting her shit sorted out.

Kazuki is still "hurf durf I'm so smurt even tho everytin I do is fucking retarded but somehow works anyway because the writer decided this retarded shit is somehow intelligent durrr"
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>Sekai Project
>in the red
How? All they did was copy and paste translations
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>>322889405
...Why not just buy them from elsewhere? The publishers generally sell the releases outside Steam.
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>read VN
>it's so fucking wordy with half of the lines being things you already know being explained to you for another 5 lines
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>>322889897
You know why?
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>>322889830
To be honest, Mitcher should've just been a Schizoid since the first game. The whole organ memory thing is total let down in her route.
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>>322889853
The kind of people who are dumb enough to open a localisation company probably aren't very good with funds.
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>>322889897
Just finished the restored "if my heart had wings" and it's pretty much this.

Feel like I wasted my time.
>Muh glider.
>Muh random conflict out of nowhere because we need to meet the conflict quota.
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>>322889935
Crippling short term memory loss in the Japanese population?
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>>322889935
japs need to beaten over the head in order to get something?
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>>322890065
>>322890082
No, it's more banal.

Eroge writers get paid by text size. Between 500-2000 yen per kilobyte.
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>>322889939
For those that think alt. Mitchiru was best it's not a very good development, anon.

And alt. Michiru was best.
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>people who think they've played a VN because they sat through a rewrite written by some random fan
Never gets old.
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>>322889939

Yeah going through her backstory it was all so obvious. Everything going to hell in her life and then her only/best friend commits suicide in front of her. I was completely expecting her to get split personality from that. But nope, have some silly cell memory.
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>>322890149
Can't they just insert those invisible symbols everywhere to rack up the bytes?
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>>322890259
It's probably not a good idea to do such swindles if they want to get hired again.
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>>322890259
>Japs
>Computer literate
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>>322890149
Nutshell.
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>>322890259
>Dev gets script size from writer
>Advertizes new VN as being 9999MB in lenght!
>Fans read it and call bullshit, because there's only 0,5MB worth of content
I wonder why nobody does it.
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>don't know moonman speak
>tfw will never get to play Monobeno or the new loli train game they're making
>can't use machine translation because the writing is too complex
>can't hope for a translation because Monobeno is 5Mb of text that is incredibly difficult to translate/read due to its style

Fucking moon people. Why do they not translate their stuff? Do they hate my money?
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>>322890149
Literally size? Are you sure it's not per words?
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>>322890896
Because people would probably notice when it took them 5 seconds to do the editing?
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>>322890978
If you like moonmen, why not just learn moonman speak? You could read Monobeno pretty comfortably in a year.

Sounds like a long time, but you're talking about an hour of work a day, tops. You probably spend more time than that jerking off.
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>>322891006
No, it's per kilobyte.
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>>322890978
Actually, yeah they do. Japanese people hate the west and you. World War II never ended for them.
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>>322891147
>You could read Monobeno pretty comfortably in a year.

Nooooo.
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>>322891008
>editing
Unless it's gameplay eroge, very little testing actually goes into visual novels. Many of consistent errors in liarsoft's Steampunk games were only fixed after they got full-voice re-releases.
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>>322891151
Considering they still can't look at an uncensored cunt thanks to Americans, I can understand why they'd be angry and frustrated.
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>>322891224
If you started a year ago instead of going "b-but that's too long!" you would have been done by now.

The earlier you start, the earlier you can read whatever you want to read.
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>>322867103
>eroge
>erotic game
>not a game
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>>322891147

>You could read Monobeno pretty comfortably in a year.

That sounds like a bit of a stretch, if the whole "it has really fucking complex dialog and shittons of it" thing is true. And a year is peanuts to me, but the problem is I'm juggling a shitton of things at the moment.

I also have no idea where to start learning moonspeak.

A full time job, managing a budget for my apartment, and dealing with law school is a bitch.
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>>322866821
>how do you tell if these games are any good? they almost always have a near 100% rating.
Weeaboos have no standards as long as they see animushit drawn stuff on screen.
Hint: they are all bad, because the developers know this fact, and they aren't needed to make good games.
All they need to do is hire a known artist and they're set.
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>>322891356
>I also have no idea where to start learning moonspeak.
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/Japanese
It's actually pretty solid guide.
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>>322891457
That guide is hilariously terrible.
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>>322891334
I started 5 years ago and now I'm reading it with no problems. I just don't believe you would be able to read it with no problems in 1 year.

By "with no problems" I mean not having to look up pretty much anything, which I don't have to. Perhaps an odd word here and there, or some dialectical grammar. For mythological concepts coming up in the story, Monobeno actually explains them to the reader, since MC's sister, Natsuha, doesn't remember much about her childhood and traditional practices from Monobeno, so that's used to explain things to the reader.

Also I'm not implying 5 years are needed, that's just when I started reading it. But 1 year just don't feel like enough.
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>>322891598
How so?
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>>322891630
You might have been going pretty slowly.
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>>322891771
Or you might consider having vocabulary look-up always on to be "reading".

To blog more, for first three years of my studies I didn't read any VNs at all.
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>>322867350
Picrelated?
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>>322891712
Of all the recommended options, Tae Kim is the only one I'd ever recommend anyone to use. And even then, it's not a great resource for English natives.

>>322891889
3 years without reading a VN is pretty crazy, they're great learning tools. It's best to learn new vocab from a native source instead of a list, because it gives context to the word and helps you remember it.
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>>322867578
It's a bit more complicated than that. Same reason why cyber bullying exists.
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>>322892084
Books are also pretty good for that purpose.
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>>322892296
Books lack the audio practice, and can be more intimidating for beginners.
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