I really want this game to do well in the competitive scene, but the required GamePad usage concerns me...
>On the WiiU
Gonna have to stop you right there, anon.
It'd be possible if Nintendo could manage to not fuck up their online matchmaking.
B-b-b-but it's a COMPLETELY unique character!
Your favourite Pokemon didn't get in? Mine did.
Golly gee, I wonder who could be behind this-
Literally every time. Salty Hawluchafags are the best goddamn thing about this game. The funniest thing is Luchachu is infinitely more hype than that shitty bird could ever be. Can't wait to main it and rub it in beaner faces.
Have you been living under a rock since December?
This game's competitive scene will never be good as long as the people that play this turd not only are happy, but praise the fact that the roster is as generic and pitiful as can be.
The players will be even more awful and cancerous than Smash.
Nigga he's in the base game. Are you retarded? The game isn't even out yet.
Also, game will suck caus it plays like Nay Rue Toe Ninja Ass games instead of like Tekken. In fact, they should have just gotten Capcom to make a 2D fighter. Or
No shit it's not final. It's still unbelievably small to begin with.
Most of the Pokémon of the 720 are irrlelvant shitmons like Typhlosion, Swampert, Meganium, Sunflora, Luvdisc, Unown, Weedle, Metapod, Kakuna, Finneon, Lumineon, Carnivine, Swirlix, Inkay, Litleo, etc. If you trim all the fat, that only leaves about 100 viable choices.
>Arcsys Pokemon fighting game
You are incredibly naive or totally retarded if you expected a roster bigger than 30 characters for the first entry of a fighting game series.
Oh wait, I'm talking to pokefags. Nevermind.
But it doesn't suck. It's quite good for getting a new franchise off the ground with over 700 options to pick from, and in fact it's better for prioritizing good Pokemon over your precious favorite shitmon. I'm sorry that it hurts you to hear this, but it's true.
When was the last good Naruto game Bamco made?
>Irrelevant shitmon list
>Start out with gen 2 starters
Source on this?
Seems odd, considering the arcade units just use a slightly variant Pro Controller
That just makes it worse desu. Making a clone would be fast and easy, but they actually spent development time on two different Pikachus. There are like 700 pokemon, and they had to have Pikachu twice.
>Bigger than 30
So far it's just 12. There's no excuse whether if it's "new" or not, especially since this is working off of an already established franchise.
Funny thing is that I'm not even a pokefag. I'm just sick of people sucking this lazy game's dick.
The Gen 2 starters are all bland and uninspired though. They're only popular because of nostalgia. Meganium is just a shit version of Venusaur, Typhlosion is a rod of fur and Feraligatr is just a generic blue alligator.
But if that's the case, how did the arcade version handle two player?
Please bear with me, I've been out of the loop for Pokken the last couple months
it's not that we expected it, nobody in their right minds ever thought for a moment that it would. But ponder for a moment the purpose of a pokemon fighting game, rather than it being a new IP.
The purpose is, in theory, to take control of your favorite pokemon and fight with more control than simple menu selections. Next question. How many people's favorite pokemon are actually on the roster? So you can understand that it defeats it's own purpose, right? And that we are obviously disappointed, yeah?
And I don't know why you're so rump roasted about the series' mascot getting play. It's a boy Pikachu and a girl Pikachu. Now that there's a fighting-themed Pikachu, not having it in a Pokemon themed fighter would be a missed opportunity, but classic Pikachu is too iconic not to have. They could have collapsed the movesets into one slot or something but that wouldn't have changed anything except for making the character select screen one slot short.
>people think this game will be competitive when it has shitty naruto styled gameplay
Couldn't they have just given the costume to an alternate move set?
I think you think I'm someone else. I don't really care about this game, I haven't since the first video and everything seemed disappointed. I just wondered why you'd be so smug about mexican pikachu.
>People bitching because their favourite mons aren't in
>Three of mine are already confirmed
>SIX kanto reps
>no real gen 2 rep
>no reps from gen 5/6
he's dead jim
>legendaries are a dumb cop out
Better roster inc
Tried to keep it realistic, meaning pokemon with popularity, unique moveset potential, and megas were given priority. I also tried to keep the roster relatively small, but represent at least a few pokemon from every generation and represent every type.
>Fighters - 17 Total, Mewtwo as an unlockable boss
Charizard, Pikachu, Gengar, Mewtwo
Sceptile, Blaziken, Gardevoir
Lopunny, Lucario, Garchomp
Greninja, Hawlucha, Sylveon
>Supports - 20 Total
Ivysaur, Koffing, Electrode, Mr. Mime
Donphan, Octillery, Wobbuffet
Trapinch, Slaking, Shroomish
Snover, Rhyperior, Kricketune
Darmanitan, Chandelure, Galvantula, Cryogonal
Aegislash, Braixen, Noivern
>tfw your all time favorite pokemon is completely outclassed in popularity that he will never ever get in.
It honestly bothers me how few fighting types are in a Pokemon fighting game. I know it's more about popularity but they could have easily given some of the more popular fighting types some love this way. I really hope Chan and Lee make it, but at this rate I doubt it. Lee is probably fucked because Blaziken is in it and it uses kicks.
I got my Machamp so I'm happy either way.
Hopefully not. It's a Pokemon fighting game, not a fighting type fighting game. The fighting type already composes the majority of the roster's types PLUS the final boss.
Hitmonlee has the elongating gimmick but there's nothign unique about Hitmonchan that Machamp or Lucario can't do. (not you)People that wanted a game of only fighting types are the worst cancer about this game. They didn't want a Pokemon game, they wanted "fighting styles" reskinned with Pokemon.
I think I was expecting a reskinned Tekken with pokemon, which is why I wanted more fighting types. Since its obviously not that, the only Pokemon that bothers me really is Suicune and maybe Gardevoir. Suicune just seems so out of place against the other Pokemon. Gardevoir i just dislike the design.
It's more that it's a legendary and the others are just regular mons. MewTwo makes sense since he's final boss material, but it seems to odd to just throw in a single legendary. Then again I also think it's retarded that there are two Pikachu characters, I'm just glad they play differently. I'm not a huge fan of Pokemon so maybe I'm not the best judge of who should get it.
Swampert will be there for sure! Aggron too!
The initial fans have turned me off to this game so much already. The popularity contest and constant damage control are obnoxious. The roster is ass and people defend the shit out of it while attacking anyone who has even a remotely interesting suggestion for the roster
>hile attacking anyone who has even a remotely interesting suggestion for the roster
>other generic fighting types instead of unique ones like Mienshao, Keldeo
How the fuck would you ever think this game could even possibly be competitive? Do you not play any fighting games of any kind? That's the only way anyone could think that.
That's like wanting Dragonball Xenoverse or Ultimate Ninja Storm games to be competitive.
if the gameplay is solid, people WILL find a way to make this competitive, just like they found a way to turn smash, an intentionally uncompetitive game with tons of random elements, into a competitive game
if playing on a Wii U gamepad is such a hassle they can always link 2 Wii Us and play them on separate TVs like in the arcades, or maybe even ask Bamco to provide some arcade machines for the tourney purposes (already happened by the way) - there are lots of possibilities
Blame Korea. Literally, South Koreans were the ones that fanvoted another Pikachu get in when they were surveying for anticipated characters.
Underused tier. Means that competitively other Pokemon in the game could curbstomp it. Legendary trio Pokemon tend to not have OP stats anyway.
The gameplay isn't solid. Don't get your hopes up, man. It's unreleased on consoles but has been out for almost a year now in Japanese arcades. I got to play it myself at Dave and Busters since I live in NYC. It has no depth, it's boring and slow, and it's just a gimmick fighting fame just like the DBZs and Narutos.
>tfw pokken is flopping in japan and the machines are regularly getting replaced with Dengeki Bunko fightling climax
>releasing new fighters every week
>Nintendo doing system link
Nigga, they don't even have an Ethernet port on the fucking WiiU. What do you want them to do, just host locals with on-site wifi and private match side by side?
>Providing arcades for tourneys
That kills the tourney scene. It means that there will be no locals, there will be more smaller gatherings, all tourneys would require an event big even to warrant the arcade machine. Not to mention you can't use the pro controller on the arcade machines, so practicing in the WiiU would suck ass without shelling out the extra money for a special snowflake controller that can literally only be used on one single game in the whole WiiU library.
It sucks. They fucked the game competitively right out the box. It'd have to be a really good fighter for people to overlook the hassles of properly setting up tourneys for the sake of playing this, and the game really isn't good enough to warrant that.
>shelling out the extra money for a special snowflake controller that can literally only be used on one single game in the whole WiiU library
Wouldn't be the first time
Not even the first time this gen.
That's why I said "if". I like what I'm seeing on the gameplay videos thrown on YT so far, so I'll definitely pick the game up, regardless of whether it turns competitive or not.
Was just throwing some ideas up there. Unless the game is utterly unpopular it will probably get a spot at the annual POP events like it did last year. I mean, fuck, Pokemon VG and TCG are being played competitively and both are rife with infuriating luck elements (including literal coin flips). Pokken would have to pull off some insane shit to not find itself right at home at those events.
You would need one TV and Wii U per person and they would still need to connect to the internet just to play against eachother even though they are in the same room. Now if the Tekken team was able to make the gameplay so good that people would want do this, they would do it for their own series Tekken that saw a massive drop in sales with their last title.
You're all forgetting Nintendo does DLC now. So ALL 720 pokemon will be in, avaible only for 4,99 each.
Greninja is likely going to receive a Mega in Z, so they're probably waiting until the official reveal before confirming him for Pokken
plot twist - Ash-Greninja is the Mega Greninja
This I can let slide since it allowed GameCube controllers to be plugged into PCs without any weird proprietary USB bullshit just straight plug and play. Plus the adapter isn't really expensive and you're most likely going to have a GC controller laying around.
The game will be fairly popular. I am sure it will have a competitive scene, but it might not be super deep and intense, but because of this a lot more people will get into it because they don;t need to get good.
So it will be a fairly popular causal competitive games.
Plus its Pokemon so it is going to get shoved down your throat whether you like it or not.
I will laugh every time people will try to play Pokken like Naruto only to get their asses handed to them because this one actually has shit like wall bounces and no dial-a-combos.
>Pokemon with Tekken gameplay
Pokemon have shit like fireballs and huge ass laser beams, other than Pokken the fighting styles that fit it are Darkstealkers or Marvel Vs.
I can see them making a "recommended to get the LAN adapter" shit. With that said...
...most likely they'll use the arcades than Wii U for competition, at least for the official Pokemon ones.
Nigga, I'd like to see you use your electrical current to lift shit. Howlucha doesn't need pussy ass magic to toss your ass across the map and flying press your face from the top of the twin towers.
That is my point though - Hawlucha doing that would look really weird. Realize that Hawlucha is a manlet.
And don't give me that "Pokemon is meant to look weird" shit. I am talking about possible technical stuff like weird animations due to size difference.
Tekken team also did Smash 4, Soul Calibur, etc.
Play this in a Japanese arcade.
I tried to dual my pal but he accidently got paired with some Japanese kid
The kid was kinda pissed as he was trying to pair up to his friend, but my pal chose a bad time to choose find opponent I guess
Basically the kid fucked him, badly, then he got angry and just threw the controller down on the arcade machine after just the first round
Arcades are serious shit here