Shantae vs Shovel Knight. both the games and the characters themselves.
I've only played Shovel Knight and it's a decent game but it has some flaws. The boss battles are the best part, if the game was just based around battles it would probably be a 10/10 but the platforming isn't fucking fun. It's just a lame grind you have to make to get to the good part. If it was a multiplayer game it'd be a ton better. It's lazy that they barely even re-did any levels to work around the Plague Knight DLC and some bosses are either too easy or too much of a pain to deal with because they were designed around Shovel Knight somewhat. The platforming works againt you in a fair amount of instances too, which is the game's low point for both Knights. The idea of the characters is neat but when you get down to it, there's not much character to explore in any of the Knights. Which is fine, it is an Indie game after all. Other low points include 'inspiration,', aka uninspired content. I mean I get the whip guy is supposed to be a nod to Castlevania and the Knights are kinda based around the Megaman guys and so on but the game does have that somewhat uninspired rip off feel that every fucking indie game has.
As for Shantae, I'm not a pathetic neet who needs several sets of tits on my games cover to be interested in it. Haven't touched it, won't. I'm sure the game is nothing but pandering and cutesy anime shit.
And here, anons, we have a perfect example of someone so far up their own ass I'm amazed they haven't imploded. Try and avoid this kind of faggotry unless you want to be an absolutely unbearable waste of space that even a dog wouldn't love, much less their own mother.
No, it's just not a proper thing to focus around a game like Shovel Knight. I look at Donkey Kong and Mario games and the entire game is revolved around it, hurting enemies usually requires you to platform to or off of them and it works. Also in Tropical Freeze's case, the levels were designed very well, it's clear they even thought of the speedrunners in it because there were so many shortcuts you could use. The enemies weren't AI based, they were more or less moving hazards or platforms you had to use to progress, which is good it all flows and you don't have to wait or stop.
With Shovel Knight, again it's not god-awful or anything but it's design is messed up. The enemies are just kind of there and they make you stop to deal with them if they're in the wrong spot. It's like unless it's a little bug or rat or something, the enemies in SK are the Hammer Bros of the game and when you're doing a speedrun or just want to get to the end, you have to stop to deal with the enemies or one of those scrolling screens in several of the levels. I felt like in SK you're just really limited in what you can do, but in Mario (excluding power ups) or DK, even when all they can do is jump it feels like it's all you need because it is all you need. Also the knockback from hitting an enemy in Shovel Knight is a shitty addition. You get pushed if you hit them and you get pushed if you get hit. And again it's really not that bad for going through one time, but replaying and going for feats is just a huge fucking chore
shovel knight is some ok indie shit with some generic goon guy as a mascot.
shantae is an IP that's existed for over a decade on various multiple systems, has good gameplay, and has a cute girl as a mascot that actually has a personality.
it's retarded that the two are constantly compared just cause autists and 12 year olds think that being indie is a proper category for games and developers and ignore all that Wayforward has made.
Shovel Knight was a good game, never played Shantae, the reason I never played Shantae was honestly because of the character. Bland as hell. If someone asked me to draw some chick from Dubai or some shit, there's a 90% chance it would be Shantae. Shovel Knight is something special, that's not how I would draw a 'knight' if asked, he's got viking horns on his helmet, he's broad as hell but incredibly small and somehow they managed to make him adorable af. Shovel Knight is something at least somehwat unique with his shovel, Shantae is fucking Jasmine with purple hair.
>megaman or castlevania, which one is better?
To be fair though, SK is worse than Megaman and Shantae is worse than any Castlevania medtroidvania.
>It's like unless it's a little bug or rat or something, the enemies in SK are the Hammer Bros of the game and when you're doing a speedrun or just want to get to the end, you have to stop to deal with the enemies or one of those scrolling screens in several of the level
I've never read anything more wrong.
the perspective of that shovel is fucking with my brain
it looks like a Z with it's shading
The hilt is attached at a slant into the hand guard
the hand guard is facing away from shantae as well as the base of the shovel
then the shovel head is coming out sideways
im fucking confused dudes
unforgiving game with mediocre to ear-grating music. pretty okay but not very fun to play through. plus furry fanbase. no thanks.
though it's free on the PC so can't complain about that.
And I'm pretty sure you're a prejudice jackass
You call that a bloody zombie?
Played both games and liked both, but I gotta say spade crusader was better. I felt like I had a whole lot more fun in SK than in the Shantae games, especially with Plague Knight.
Cave story came out first mate
>Cave Story music
I mean, the game's soundtrack can be ear grating at some parts since it's just beeps and boops, but I really wouldn't call the entire thing ear grating. There's some good songs.
>Falling for the weakest bait imaginable
>I really wouldn't call the entire thing ear grating. There's some good song
that's why i said it ranges from mediocre (in my opinion) to ear-grating. 8-bit beep boops are fucking terrible and Cave Story seems to be loaded with them ugh. there are some fairly decent tunes though.
>ITT: Faggots who don't even know what the real Indie Game King is
I bought both during the sale and finished them. They're both great but I prefer Shantae because it's funnier and the girls make me feel funny inside. Pirate's curse is the first game on steam where I got all the achievements.
I need a fucking release date for Half-Genie Hero already, WayForward said an update will come soon and the Nintendo site still says Winter 2016 I REALLY hope it doesn't get delayed out of nowhere to summer or some shit....
i was planning to buy Shovel Knight but i went to my local Gamestop and tried it out for a bit and got bored before even finishing the first level.
i did buy Pirate's Curse though and it's probably the most fun i've had on my 3DS so far. plus boobies in 3D and shipping potential between the girls.
i don't have a lot of games on it though, just Sm4sh, SM3DL, Stretchmo, and Happy Home Designer (i regret the last one and is thinking of selling it. shame on me. well at least i got it for free).
Shantae is a nice game and got pretty great once the pirate gear and dance moves
Shovel knight by itself sucks, but plague of shadows makes the game fucking amazing
One of them is a shitty cash grab with no creativity that had to rip off other classics while not being as good as them and the other one is a unique polished gem that was actually made by competent devs. I'll let you guess which one is which.
Cave Story is the godfather of Indie Games, and overall it is the best
But fuck I love Freedom Planet, and Lilac is cute! CUTE!
i think you mean Milla
You can't really compare a franchise with 3 or 4 games with another that has only one, even if they have some of the same people on the dev team.
Aesthetically Shantae is better looking though.
Lilac is pretty cute but she doesn't really look like a dragon to me. plus puppies are the best.
>tfw you beat Propeller Knight as Plague with zero upgrades before he was nerfed
Milla looks more like a rabbit than a dog though, anon
I don't want to say mediocre, but kind of, yeah? I thought it was fun at first, but it felt like bits of it were missing, and I guess I just moved into other games and away from it.
It didn't help that it turned out that a lot of content was cut.
Shovel Knight is pretty damn good. The game play is tight and the music is outstanding. Shantae is okay at best and only continues to get more games because gamers are a horny bunch who will buy anything with cute girls.
Have a better version of that pic
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR WHY ISN'T SHE IN SMASH
Shovel knight is an actual good game that doesn't rely on fanservice to brainwash autist virgins
you'll never see a shantae thread about anything but dumping pictures and roleplaying
While you have a point with the fanservice, two of the games are quite good. The first game is pretty much a better Castlevania II squished to game boy size. Its main drawbacks are the occasional leap of faith due to the small screen and the bullshit early difficulty. The third is a respectable Super Metroid clone with decent humor and solid platforming.
Risky's Revenge was okay at times, but it's a relatively halfassed sequel.
Shantae is a good character, but her games are bad. Shovel Knight has a great game, but he's a shit character based on a single joke that never gets a punchline. I whish Santae had Shovel Knight's gameplay.
>her games are bad
Shantae games are pretty boring.
Dont have much going on for them outside of the artstyle.
Shovelknight was surprisingly cool but sadly too easy.
I'd like to see a Shovelknight 2.
she always dressed like a slut, the people that fapped to jasmine were crazy about her slutty brown version
Shovel Knight is pretty good, but some of the stages go on too long and the relics feel too limited in what they can do. Also, the new game plus was really lazy and it seems odd that you're never forced to hit projectiles back at an enemy. I guess I expected something like Mega Man 9, but got Mega Man 5 instead.
>shovel knight... throws in the trowel
more like Shantae is a good character and her games are mostly good and has their own identities. Shovel Knight is a lame character and his game is stale as fuck and only relies on classics to appeal to fans through nostalgia, hence the game having no identity. some even say Plague Knight plays much better than him.
Sonic died and Shantae took his place
>braindead gameplay where you just bounce off foes' heads on your shovel to win
>linear as fuck level layouts
>better design and gameplay
with better gameplay/aesthetic and fresher ideas than a literal retro copy-and-paste indieshit with no identity
Shovel Knight is consistently higher quality, however it is a lot shorter. The Shantae games give you a lot more bang for your buck.
Character wise Shantae has more personality and tits making her the obvious choice.
backtracking is one of the aspects of Metroidvanias. you backtrack once you have the appropriate power up to get access to areas you previous couldn't get to. to me that's better than running through an entire boring linear stage.
>that's not what i'm doing.
>does it again
kek, sure kid you win, unsheathe your katana now and go back to your e-cigarettes
>backtracking is one of the aspects of Metroidvanias
Generally boring games.
This shit ruined Castlevania because when you make a game based around backtracking it has to be piss easy.
Even Super Metroid was pretty much designed for babies.
Games can stop being engaging when there's no proper challenge and failure state.
Shovelknights biggest criticism is that its too easy.
Its still hard enough for people who arent used to games like that, but those who have been around the NES block will be done with it rather quickly.
It wouldve been a much nicer game if they stepped the difficulty up.
Oneshotting the boss rush at the end of it felt rather underwhelming.
People here are just retarded and have a very fucking limited vocabulary.
Its why filler words like comfy and soulless are so popular in arguments here and why certain words like degenerate or autism spread in a memetic fashion.
Idiots dont know how to express themselves properly and nobody ever heard of a thesaurus.
Shovel Knight is a really solid platformer with boss battles you can easily cheese, DLC was amazing
Shantae is has always been very mediocre with a nice look to it. Only gets so much love here cause Shantae is cute