This is infinitely better than Sakurai's final roster
Rhythm Heaven is one of my favorite series. Suck a dick fag.
Anon why did you remove Ness? ;-;
This minus Shovel Knight, Shantae, and Konola is my dream roster
Roster should have been
Prince Marth (Fe 11)
Hero King Marth (Fe 12 / 13)
Darth Marth (Marth with a lightsaber, not to be confused with Dark Marth)
"Marth" (Lucina w/ mask)
Chrom (Assist trophy only)
Some people no-one cares about
Take out Jill, Zelda/Tetra, Chorus Men, and Heihachi, put back Ness, Sheik and Robin, add K. Rool, and split up Samus/ZSS, Diddy/Dixie, and Pokemon Trainer again, and it's good.
Also change Ganondorf entirely to not be like Captain Falcon
I don't have any issue with a Rhythym Heaven fighter, more than the fact that literally no one gave a shit about them until "muh ebin leak guise!"
Also Karate Joe a best
>people complain about literally whos being added
>while asking for characters like Jill, Isaac, Takumaru, and pic related
>Darth Marth (Marth with a lightsaber, not to be confused with Dark Marth)
> ___ character deserved to be in smash more than bayonetta
>_____ character deserved to be in smash
how would chorus kids even fucking work
also what makes you think Rhythm Heaven deserves to be in a game with icons like Ice Climbers and that samurai with the wind blades or whatever from the game no one knew about or bought or played
>Jigglypuff should be cut/is a waste of a "slot"
Yeah, no, I'm calling bullshit.
Bayonetta was a niche game. Bayonetta 2 was an even more niche game. I guaran-fucking-tee she didn't place above K. Rool, or Krystal, or Ridley, or Wolf, or Hades, or Takamaru, or Wonder Red, or Rayman, or literally anybody else.
Nice meme and just so you know Sakurai planned to add a Rhythm Heaven character anyway to smash 4 but was cut for reasons, KKR hasn't made a legit appearance in a DKC game in over a decade so get over your meme lizard and let new faces enter smash also the Rhythm Heaven series is quite popular over at Japan and the 4th game launched mid 2015. Face it, nobody actually cares for fat crocodile with a crown, you got your Mii Costume stop crying over him.
at least I know why you're salty
Of course someone like you with a double digit IQ will sidestep my points entirely and use something irrelevant to the conversation to "get" me, should've known, ashame really.
Holy shit! 3 million sales?! That's almost one third of what the original Donkey Kong Country sold! If only they sold more, they might have been able to match Metroid Prime and Prime 2, or Star Fox 64!
Yeah, because normies fucking adore Bayonetta, hence why it has such enormous sales. I mean, shit, Bayonetta 2 almost sold as much as DmC: Devil May Cry did, and that game was record-breaking with its sheer popularity.
>thinking that oldfags make up the majority of smash 4 players and not a good deal of kids
>thinking that the vast majority of people who played old games and don't anymore would give a shit about a poll
>thinking players who have still continued playing nintendo games over the years would fanatically stick to old titles without branching out on new titles
>thinking that they wouldn't have played bayonetta considering smash and bayo focus on fast pace combat
>thinking that sales of a series would mean that the villains or side characters would be popular as well
>thinking the vast majority of voters even know characters who haven't had a game out for a long time
Alt costumes or are they fighting together? The former's alright.
>Bringing back character transformation
It's okay with Pokemon trainer I guess, but stop there.
I like Rhythm heaven, but I'd very much prefer someone else to rep that game.
A literal who I wouldn't have ever known if it wasn't for you guys
Pokemon Trainer is dead forever, embrace it
>people actually want transforming characters back
>wanting 3 characters shoved into the same slot and sacrifice their down special for the sake of a worthless shitty gimmick
Wow when i see people asking for this garbage back i just can;t fucking wrap my head around it. Dixie Kong would have been a cool character but why would you shove her into Diddy's slot? Trigger warning holy shit. Just fuck my autism up f.a.m
t. someone who never played Pokemon Trainer.
Pokemon Trainer was a nice idea but a shit gimmick. There's literally zero point in shackling those characters together. Charizard is way better in 4 than Brawl.
Looking back at the roster the only transformations acceptable are Samus (2 of the same characters taking 2 slots for their series representation? Really?) & Red (Iconic character who should be in Smash along with his gimmick, maybe fix somethings like the stamina bullshit). Diddy & Dixie should be separate slots even though it would have been kinda cool to see how their gimmick would work differently from the IC's. Maybe remove Toon Zelda and replace her with just Tetra because she'll be more unique
Roster. Darker portraits are unlocks.
Easy DK clone or half-clone, suitable retro rep.
Probably the most-suitable DK character that isn't in the game yet.
Personal taste, mainly. I could see her being an acrobatic fighter that can steal others' held items.
Easy Samus clone or half-clone. Aside from Ridley is the only Metroid character I can see getting a chance.
Has had a few playable roles, one of the few characters in Kirby that consistently appears. If Kirby gets a new rep, it's likely him.
>Not removing any FE or KI characters
I didn't remove any characters, period.
Olimar clone. Give Olimar his original up special, give Alph rock pikmin and take away purple and white. Yaaaay.
Autistic veteran rule.
>No Snake, Squirtle, Ivysaur
Equally-autistic double standard when it comes to third parties or additional gen-1 reps.
>Marshal, Vince, Mallo, Monita
New series flavour. Like the idea of non-violent characters in fighting games.
Superheroes are cool.
It's not not happening.
Everything in this roster is wrong and gay.
A great idea would be to re-add him alongside Squirtle & Ivysaur, fix the problematic things in his moveset and done. They could add an option in the settings which could allow you to keep or separate transformation characters to appease those who didn't like the gimmick and those who did but that's just my say
The problem is, Ivysaur doesn't really make that much sense as his own character.
The only reason it and Squirtle were included in Brawl to begin with was for the Pokemon Trainer. PT was designed to represent a lot of things for the Pokemon series: The main playable character of the series, the three starter types, the three stages of evolution, the tag-team gameplay, type weaknesses, etc. Squirtle represented water types and the first evolution phase, Ivysaur represented grass types and the middle stage of evolution, and lastly Charizard represented fire types and the final evolution form.
And well, with transformations out the window and ergo Pokemon Trainer scrapped, there wasn't really a need for such characters. Charizard was the exception because he's popular and iconic enough to stand on his own. Technically, you can argue the case for Squirtle too, but then there's Ivysaur, who would of absolutely never been playable in Smash by any other circumstances. It's far less popular than Bulbasaur or Venusaur. But, at the same time, it'd be a bit mean to include Charizard and Squirtle while leaving Ivysaur in the dust, so it was just better to take the latter two out altogether.
You left something out
>not even all the fake leaks helped
who gives a fuck about any of that? Ivysaur was in a Smash game and it had a fun moveset, that's all that matters. Not some dumb politicking about whether it's iconic enough for our precious vidya museum
>Samus + ZSS
Nope. Removing the two from each other was a good thing.
I'm a Ridleyfag, so I would be okay with this.
I would like her but would never happen.
>Diddy + Dixie
>Toon Zelda + Tetra
Has potential. I have no problem with Sheik being there on the actual roster, but she is just so OP and isn't particularly fun to play as either like she was in Melee imo
Fuck yeah, I miss Snake and his playstyle. He really did bring something to the table that other characters don't.
Fuck no. Not even an FEfag but Robin doesn't even play like the other FE characters and is one of the more unique characters in the game.
Meh. I feel like he'd be redundant with Ryu
Eh. He's one of those characters I'd only be okay with if everyone else I wanted were in.
Where the fuck is Ness?
What the fuck is it with /v/ and Ridley? It's just a meme right? They wouldn't be able to allow him to fly and he would look stupid as fuck in a game like Smash locked onto the ground.
She definitely made it above Hades, Krystal, Takamaru, and Wonder Red, are you kidding me? What kind of fucking idiot seriously thinks any of those did well? Rayman was hardly requested before the fake leak. K Rool had a vocal movement, but the concept of Bayo matching or beating him isn't ridiculous. Wolf might have beat her since Sakurai specifically mentioned how fighters from past games were included in the results, but I guess he wanted to choose something new.
Stop being butthurt that your pick didn't win, this coming from a K Roolfag.
>kids make up a tiny portion of the Wii U fanbase
>being so delusional you're incapable of basic logic
Has the salt of not getting your favorite character turned you from stupid to brain damaged?
>not wanting Rosalina or at least expecting her
I'm not sure why some people were deluded enough to think that Rosalina WOULDN'T make it in. Literally and figuratively the biggest new Mario character in years.
She was one of the most obvious newcomers. I don't get how people didn't see her coming from a mile away and are still salty about it now.
Let it gooooo, let it gooooo....
Why would you ever want to keep transforming characters?
All you gotta do is cut Corrin and Palutena, then add, well, damn near any other character that people were asking for and it would've been just fine.
It's mostly butthurt Daisy fans. Some Peach fans too. They think Rosa has grown too much too fast and is being favored. As if the reason Nintendo doesn't care more about Daisy is because of Rosa.
>Not posting Meg's waifu.
>I guaran-fucking-tee she didn't place above K. Rool, or Krystal, or Ridley, or Wolf, or Hades, or Takamaru, or Wonder Red, or Rayman,
God, you people are so delusional.
>She was one of the most obvious newcomers
Buddy calm your waifuism nobody saw that shit coming because she was still mostly a nobody. She wasn't even playable in a Mario platformer until after Smash 4 was already announced.
>still mostly a nobody
>the most popular relatively new Mario character by far and away
>present in every Mario Kart game MKWii and on
>in several other spinoff titles
>basically shot right up to Peach and Daisy levels of popularity practically overnight
Yeah, right. She was always one of the more obvious new characters coming in. If you didn't see it, you're an idiot. Anyone who didn't see her coming was a delusional idiot.
>People are actually mad because Inkling weren't DLC characters
>People actually expected Inklings
Niggas thats the newest, freshest IP nintendo has. Of course they are going to left them for the next Smash game, they need something to hype up about.
I was HOPING she wouldn't
I am now hoping she gets the boot for 5mash
I feel that even Brawl Meta Knight was less bullshit than she
Daisy shouldn't be in either Captain Syrup, on the other hand...
I prefer Marshal but I don't care. There is no "main" character and Chorus Men are the most popular so might as well support them.
I just want a RH rep
But no Karate Joe or Samurai... The first because I feel they would use his moveset as a "Karate Artist" and be a Ryu, the second because fuck swords.
Why do people are so obsesed with K. Rool anyway? he is an ugly croc with meh personality, why do people like him? is he the same a Roy where only people who hadn´t even played the game he is in want him?
I think a lot of his support came from the Ridley supporters. He fits the same bill he does (villain, big guy, from an under represented series that's primarily seen as a "western" thing, ugly lizard) so it was a natural shift after Ridley was thoroughly destroyed.
He had a sizable following before that but it got exceptionally loud after Sakurai said Ridley was a no-go.
I kinda like the idea of Chorus Kids representing Rhythm Heaven because their general design and concept encompasses the musical motif of the series, more than a generic karate guy or wrestler.
I'd compare it to Wii Fit. Technically the mascot of the game is a living Wii Fit board and Miis are the playable characters, and yet WFT just felt most appropriate and fitting to represent a fitness based game.
>their are people that think lucas or falco should be alts
why, characters like doc or dark pit should be alts, not characters who play nearly entirely different from their "base" character. I know their clone characters but both have pretty unique movesets, especially lucas who only shares like three moves with ness.
Zeldafag here, the concept of adding yet another variation of Zelda instead of just a new character is beyond retarded.
>not adding Wonder Red but adding fucking Jill, Takamaru and Heihachi
>Buddy calm your waifuism nobody saw that shit coming because she was still mostly a nobody
Her, Miis, Lucina, Villager, Shulk and Pacman were very obvious additions. Only retards didn't see that coming because they just wanted to BTFO everything.
Rosalina's only noteworthy attribute at the time was being marginally more popular and recent than some other Mario side characters. She didn't even have any abilities or anything to make people think she could be interesting, basically all of her Smash gimmicks were either borrowed from Mario or made up.
She was literally playable in 3D World, retard.
She wasn't marginally more popular, she was exceptionally more popular, not just amongst fans, but the actual devs too. She's so far beyond Daisy, Waluigi, etc in popularity, the only other Mario character that might have made more sense was Toad and even then, he's obviously Peach's B.
>or made up.
Yeah, that doesn't apply to like a quarter of the roster.