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Just finished Yakuza 3 and 4.
Have the stories in these games always been so shit?
I remember playing the first 2 as a teen and thinking they had pretty decent stories was that true or just nostalgia?
Has the plot gotten worse?

I started noping when that rubber bullet bullshit started.
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>>322795843
Although people will tell you otherwise, the games have never had particularly great stories, but after the first two there was definitely a noticeable drop in quality.

If you're playing the Yakuza games for story, you're doing it wrong.
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>started noping

Hello Reddit!
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I dropped 4 2 hours in because it felt like a shitty Japanese drama which it is. You will get shit on here for not liking it though.
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>>322796171
I do like it though I just think the plot fucked up about halfway through
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>>322795843
2 > 1 > 3 > 4
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>>322796973
0 > 5 = 2 > 4 = 3 > 1
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>>322795843
Yakuza stories are fucking trash and 5 is the shittest shit.
0 and 2 are pretty good, though.
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>>322797174
Are 0 and 5 really that good?
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The biggest problem I've had with the stories is Kazuma's "I swear I'm out of the Yakuza guys for real" shit and then he goes and jumps right back into it.
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>>322797957
The twists are pretty good. You also get to see everyone from 1 in zero but with their full potential since writers knew the characters would die anyway. 5 is also very good in terms of plot but Akiyama's part is shit and very short, I loved Shinada's though, specially when you go co-op with akiyama in kamurocho.
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>he doesn't like rubber bullets
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>>322796047
>game is heavily story focused
>80% dialogue
>has cutscenes that can last up to an hour
>but playing this for story is wrong

How do you even get any enjoyment from these games? Apparently you spend most of your time sitting through text you don't care about or just mindlessly mashing X through all of it.
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>>322797957
Not at all
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>>322798479

He didn't choose the thug life
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>>322797957
0 is pretty good, but 2 and 1 are still better if we're talking just about story.
5 is just the new hotness, it has way too many flaws especially when it comes to content, balancing and gameplay
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>>322799057
>>322798479
No, he did choose it, he just can't un-choose it.
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RUBBER BULLETS

AND THEN RUBBER BULLETS AT THE END AGAIN. WHAT DOES BLOOD LOOK LIKE? I DUNNO, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT.
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Only 2 has a decent story. 3 is pretty poor and 4 is lazy, lazy garbage
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>>322797957
5 fluctuates in quality a lot, but its highs are amazing.
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1 and 2's writing is by professional writer, Seishu Hase.
others are by Sega produser Yokoyama guy
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and I just finished 2. I couldn't beat the last Ryuji fight so I did that in easy. maybe I'm casual but it was a fucking retarded fight in my opinion. how the fuck do you deal any decent damage to him without him dealing even more damage to you? he fucks you up in any kind of square+triangle combo, also a lot of his attacks have retarded range, it looks like you have dodged it but you get hit anyway. and just as you get close to beating him he fucking heals himself. I only had 1 heal item so I had to beat him without getting hit much, which proved to be impossible for me. kind of upset I had to use easy mode, but whatever I guess.

this was also my last yakuza game as I don't have a PS3. pretty decent games, extremely frustrating at times though (especially 1). my favorite moments are step the fuck up in 1 and the moment Kiryu gets stabbed in Kansai in 2. I just realized I'm blogging.

ps. what is driving range? it shows that in completion list but I've never saw that in game.
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>>322799363
Rubber bullets was fine the first time. Ridiculous, but it still made sense.

The second time was just insulting. If they REALLY just had to use rubber bullets again they should have done it when Arai shot Kido.
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>>322799124
Agreed on the balancing part, Kiryu's pretty good to play but Saejima and his herculean strength ability breaks the game. Akiyama and Shinada are also too weak, they should've allowed us some dodge cancelling with akiyama and super grapples and shit with shinada, his meteor tackle is garbage compared to all of the other character's red HEAT abilities.
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>>322799589
Seriously?
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>>322795843
How many people would still be alive if this faggot just took the gun from the people he beat up?
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>>322800568
He's right.

Y1 and 2's writer left Sega afterwards. The rest of the games stories were done in-house from then on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hase_Seish%C5%AB
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>>322800694
I really hope the future games won't rely to much on "oh no he pulled out a gun let's stare at him for 10 minutes" drama moments.
In the end almost non of the important people die anyway no matter how many bullets they eat
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How high do you think the chances are that we'll get Kiwami in the west?
0 probably isn't out until 2017, yet Kiwami √°lready releases this month in japan.
I should just learn japanese already
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>>322795843
How many times did people suddenly get betrayed and shot by someone in this game?

At least 7 or 8 times?
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RUBBER
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>>322795843
>Yakuza 3 ending
>Ah I've saved my orphanage and it's happy ever after for me a fine conclusion to the Yakuza story arc

>Yakuza 4 ending
>Forget that shit we really want to make 100 sequels now
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>>322801394
The scene in 5 near the end was too funny
>bad guy has a gun
>another guy with a gun appears behind him
>another guy with a gun appears behind that guy
I was seriously wating for another guy
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>>322799889
If I remember right, you could do longer combos if you're right behind him. Even grab+triangle, I think.
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>>322795843
Is it bad I was more excited to play hide and seek and pick out clothes for the children in 3 than any of the plot in 4 with the dumb whore shooting people?
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Akiyama and Shinada against the Komaki's is just unfair, I hear you can use a gun to make it easier, which gun is it? Not the golden one obviously.

Also there is supposedly an item that makes platinum and gold plates drop rate better, which is it if this is true?
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Y1 and Y2 have preddy gud stories. Y5s is just decent, and Y3/4s are pretty nonsense but still entertaining.
This is a soap opera, anon. It's melodrama, not a drama. It's better to say it's character-driven over story-driven. The narrative pull of the series is that the characters are so damn likeable.
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>>322801921
Just pack two shotguns and two or three repair kits. I beat em with Shinada without weapons, but I realized it'd be fucking HELL for Akiyama so I got the shotties, killed Sosuke immediately, and gave old man Komaki the fair fight.
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Oh so we're going to discuss Yakuze 5 here? Well okay, I'm just going to say it, the arena this time around fucking blows ass!

And did anyone notice the names were still in Japanese? Guess you can chuck that in along with the items for making hostess liking you more and gifts to give them not working in the localization.
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Man, I'm having a hard time triggering some heat actions for Saejima. Feels weird.
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You just burnt down this guys orphanage because you were ordered to by your boss.

Now he's at maximum mad and max level he's even on a roof with his shirt off how fucked are you?
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>>322801921
Just use the normal 9mm guns or that broken shotgun buy at least 6 or 8 to make sure.
It's still dumb though, every character and every fight should be balanced.
There is the lucky binding, i don't when i got it i think i just did quite a few substories, suddenly everyone drops gold and platinum plates
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>>322802314
Who thought making every enemy have 4 or more health bars and skilled as Komaki a good idea? Seriously, fuck who ever programmed it this time around.

Even worse for Shinada and Akiyama, a borefest and frustrating as hell. Even the guide states to avoid __ fighter because the characters are too weak and or horrible against them, oh and more grinding then ever before, gotta love that.
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>>322802314
I played around in the coliseum a bit, but after i reached rank 10 i stopped, beating the same enemies with 100 health bars with boring infinite grab and stun combos got boring quick
The only thing i liked was the 100 man battle
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I just wanna ask my Yakuza friends

I'm buying Kiwami this month, and I know they'll probably remake 2 as well so I want to ask

Is it fine to play the series in this order
Kiwami -> Kiwami 2 (hopefully) -> 4 (watch the preview videos) ->5 -> Zero -> 6?

I've heard 3 isn't that good and 4 recaps the whole story. What do you guys think
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>>322802595
Anon if my boss told me to fuck with Kiryu's shit I'd put in my two weeks notice.
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>>322802678
>Valerie Garrett
>People with Mine's moveset.
>Limit Beserk
>Using Akiyama.

Glad I got th platinum for the Japanese version
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>>322802314
Arena only sucks if you're doing Limited Berserk/Tag Team/100 Man Deathmatch with Akiyama and Shinada, because BOY are they not suited for it. Other than that, it's the same old arena as ever, just with more health bars. It's fine cause at least I get more mileage out of the fight compared to like 3 tiger drops in Y3 and 4.
And yeah, the names are still in Japanese, which is weird as fuck. Oh well.
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>>322802991
I think 3 is better than 4
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>>322802991
Also 3 is the only one I dont have, which is another reason I want to skip it
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>>322803015
>two weeks
Try four.
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>>322803220
3 is like really cheap
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Yakuza 1 & 2 were story focused
and 4 and 5 are character focused.
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>>322802991
If you know moon then get Kiwami. If not emulate 1 and 2.
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>>322802991
I'd still play them in release order especially since most of them improve gameplaywise to older titles.
You can still easily finish 1 and 2 and then play Kiwami for the full experience.
I'd say 3 is still a lot better than 4 and even the recap videos leave out alot especially from 1 and 2.
And you'd be kinda stuck with never playing two or having to go back if they decide not to make a remake of it and even if it will probably realease in like 2018
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>>322803362
Why do you have 2 copies of 4?
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>>322802991
That's stupid you're a fag
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>>322802991
Just play it in the standard order man. If you play Kiwami, wait like 4 years for Kiwami 2, THEN play 4 and 5, you're going to be spoiled by all the style switching (and who knows what other improvements will have been made in Kiwami 2, if that ever rolls around)
It's not that hard. Either pull out your PS2 or emulate, because Y1 and 2 emulate REALLY cleanly.
It's true that Y3 is self-contained to the point where it's never mentioned again but still, just play the series man. I don't get why so many people are so eager to skip entries
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odd question but anyone have those like face eyecons from when you're doing concert battles as Haruka

I need them for reasons
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>>322803541
I won a copy from Sega back in 2011.
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>Still waiting physical copy of Yakuza 5
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>>322803883
Just buy it then
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What was the small statue next to the penguin?
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>>322803669
>>322803439
I got 1+2 HD last year on ps+, and tried to play through 1
But after playing Ishin on ps4, it felt so dated I couldn't get myself through it

Kiwami's announcement was really great, but going from Kiwami to 2 will feel worse than going from Ishin to 1
It was mostly mechanics wise I couldn't stomach after playing the newer games

So Idk, in any case skipping 3 is a bad idea then? I guess I'll just pick it up
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>>322803787
I would kill for that bowl and chopsticks combo.
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>>322803883
Should be cheap for the Japanese version, check Amazon or ebay.
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>>322804128
Going from Kiwami and maybe the 2 remake back to 3 and 4 will feel almost as bad.
Y2 still holds up gameplaywise and 1 is pretty short
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>>322804128
If you have the HD version of 1, that's the best it's gonna get. Stick with it. It's clunky as hell, sure, but there's something about it that I unironically love, even if the other entries are objectively mechanically better (maybe not story-wise though)
+ It'll make you appreciate Kiwami when it rolls around. 1 is only like 11 hours if you focus on story alone.
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Time for feels post em.
>comfy feels in Okinawa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLe24SgisO8
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>>322803787
You won 2?
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>>322804128
2 improved itself quite a bit anon it still holds up in terms of mechanics. More then 1 anyway.
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>>322804612
>>322804604
I'll think about it
Thanks. For now I just bought my copy so I can try yakuza 6 demo and supporr the series
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>>322804803

I need that one song from yakuza 5, I don't know what it's called or even how it goes. I think it played during the opening cutscene of Saejima's chapter when he and Majima are at that grill place.
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>>322803951
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/yimbocarimbo/RGG/Games/RGG5/Substories/Sub-storiesSnowFestivalMap.htm
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>The Promised Land
Where did HBH get this? Chikai no Basho literally translates into, The Location of Oath or The Place of Vows
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>>322805429
Location of Oath / Place of Vows both sound a lil awkward. You gotta take liberty sometimes with translation, and besides, The Promised Land sounds badass.
But, HBH did get it from a NeoGaf thread that was basically an overview for Y0, I think. TC had translated the game's subtitle to The Promised Land
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>>322804803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iIJCNT4o0k

9 minutes 30 seconds in gave me feels the first time I saw it but it was ruined by the plot later on
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>>322801260
High, but very late.
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>>322804870
Na brought one copy, won the other a week after.
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>>322805838
>NeoGaf
Yikes, not taking their translations to heart so I'd rather stick with the literal translations.
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>>322805115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf-DDNcUNgE&index=31&list=PL6tEKS4ytBEO0l7Ybn0nkA8iwKqk7-zMZ
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>>322805954

I dunno it still gives me feels. Not like Saejima knew about Rubber Bullets at the time or anything.
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>>322798956
Nice strawman. "The main focus of the games is not story." != "The story is complete shit, skip through all of it."

And when these games take over 100 hours to complete everything there is to do, and yet the main story only lasts for around 40 hours of that time, I think it's completely fair to say "the story isn't the main focus." The main focus is the combat and the side content. I would definitely play these games if they had no story, but who the hell would watch/read the stories in these games without any of the gameplay?
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>>322805954

>This tournament's bullshit
>I'm leavin

Saejima is such a great character
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>>322805954
Plot twist doesn't ruin this scene. Actually, it kinda makes it even better.
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>>322798956
>has cutscenes that can last up to an hour
Outside of that ridiculous plot dump with the mayor in 3 which straight up served as the marking point of that game's story completely turning to shit, the cutscenes are not even close to an hour long. Even when they do the thing of having multiple cutscenes back to back.

In regards to your general point, yeah the series is at that point where it has great characters in a weak story.

>>322800257
Akiyama has dodge cancelling
also he's not weak at all, it just takes him longer to deal damage because his strings are longer but with each individual hit doing small damage. More than anything else he's just a bit dull to play once you get over the wacky novelty of his air juggle thing.
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>>322808486

the only complaint I have about akiyama personally is that heat move where he slams a dude against a wall. It takes eons (even if you ignore the little QTE in it) and just isn't that cool, and I swear maybe it's just me but I feel like I trigger it accidentally at least once every other battle.
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>>322808732
No that happens to me too, I'm afraid to even use heat moves near walls when using him because of how long that animation is
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>>322805954
One of my favorite moments too. Fucking rubber bullets.
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>>322798479
The issue is more specific than that. An internal leadership struggle within the Tojo being the reason why Kiryu gets pulled back is getting old. 5 sorta subverted that by having the power struggle be within the Omi I guess, but it happened within the Tojo during the plot too.

I hope Beat Takeshi in 6 is someone affiliated with the Dojima Family or something and tries to get Kiryu to start up a Kiryu Family on his own seperate to the Tojo or some shit, I'm assuming it's Kiryu he's calling "big bro" in that teaser. Kiryu having his own Family, if atleast for a one game scenario deal, is way overdue.
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>>322809957
I just hope he's someone you fight against.
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>>322809957
>5 sorta subverted that by having the power struggle be within the Omi I guess
I'm playing 2 right now, isn't that what's happening in this one as well?
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>tfw I liked the story in 3,4, and 5.

I wasn't going in expecting Oscar story material. What keeps me around is how the characters develop as a result of that story. The side content and side missions are especially incredible, some even better then the main stories.

I'm actually replaying through 4 right now, just decked out my QT Lily Hostess. Been walking around playing paddle ball and the massage mini game.
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>>322811809
This. I honestly hope Takeshi gets REALLY involved with the story of the game. If theres anyone that can bring a good story out of the Yakuza games it's him.
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At the final chapter now, kind of burnt out and don't want to beat it/complete the arena as Kiryu.

How shit are the end fights for a 15 Akiyama and Shinada?
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>>322811857
Kinda sorta. They get their shit together real fast though. It's the Tojo clan that can't get their shit in place for that game for most of it.
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>ctrl+F Hase Seishu
>no results found
Anyway there's your answer OP.
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>>322813295
CTRL+F harder anon
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I BELIEVE IN YOU
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Who /yume/ here?
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So why did Shinada fight Baba as his last boss? What connection did they have?

>>322813850
It makes sense it plays when Taiga fights him, but why the other times? I get they didn't want to the track Exterminate playing that many times, but that song didn't fit when he fought Kiryu.
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>>322814152
>So why did Shinada fight Baba as his last boss? What connection did they have?
Nothing it came out of nowhere to give Shinada a last boss fight.

Baba was gonna walk away anyway,
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>>322813054
My Akiyama and Shinada were 12 and 11. You should be fine.

Just stock Akiyama with a bunch of healing items because his fight comes with a bunch of goons and a boss that likes to stun you. Shinada's is a joke.
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>>322814102
Everyone in the game after Kiryu's chapter ends, apparantly

>>322814152
>What connection did they have?
they didn't have any connection to each other really, Shinada just wanted to be useful to help Daigo. Saejima decided that Baba hadn't had his shit pushed in enough during the game so he let Shinada have a go at doing that I guess.

He should've ended up fighting Osaka Detective or something. Shinada beating up both the Tojo and the Omi heads would've been hilarious.
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>>322813850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eigc6AV04XQ
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>>322814152
Because Baba left his camera on the stands like a stupid.
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>>322814757
I don't remember any yume in Saejima's chapter either. Then Haruka's starts and it's every other word.
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>>322814152
None, 5 may lack as much stupid shit in its plot like it was in 3 and 4, but its still a generally weak plot all around because the writing didn't have a good foundation. Decent stories sure, like Shinada's arc, but his connection to the main plot to his contribution to the team was severely lacking and hollow.

While Tanimura felt like an actual team player, Shinada just felt like he was just there to fill in the tiny blank in the corner.
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>>322815072
>I don't remember any yume in Saejima's chapter either.
He talks about it a fair bit in his substories. Within his story it's only right at the end of his chapter when he's berating Baba that he goes full yume
and then Haruka and Akiyama's parts were full yume all the time
Shinada's chapter started out as the adventures of poorfag Chad and then went full yume too right at the end
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Someone explain the rubber bullet shit pls.

Wouldn't the fact that there was no blood seem fishy to the guy after shooting them up?
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>>322815490
>Shinada's ending ended as a Chad
>we're all Baba
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>>322815723
>Wouldn't the fact that there was no blood seem fishy to the guy after shooting them up?
I think everyone just didn't think too much of that because it was a Japanese video game, as weird as that may sound. You are right though.
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>>322815723
Why would the fact that the bullets are made of rubber stop there from being blood? The bullets are made to be non-lethal, that doesn't mean they wouldn't draw blood.
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>>322815723
I just love how they were able to cover up the way they died. All shot in the head, yet Taiga's recount was he just randomly shot them all since they ganged up on him so he can no longer concentrate shots and just shoot point blank which their clothing clearly showed, in the shoulder, hip, leg, etc.
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>>322815761
>This is the 8th most popular character in the franchise as of Ishin's popularity poll
I mean I liked Baba, but holy shit.
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Hunting shit is boring as fuck.
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>>322816562

speak for yourself man, that was probably the most fun I've had so far and I've loved the entire game as of right now (nearing the end of chapter 3.) Even Haruka's parts.
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>>322814152
They both walked away from their problems, so there's some thematic stuff to play around with
But ultimately the reason is basically just Shinada going "take responsibility for your actions!"
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>>322816562
I disagree you make some serious cash from it.

The biggest issue is the lack of variety in the animals and the actual shooting feeling stiff.
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>>322816312
I'm assuming it's because his VA/likeness is popular over there or something
the rest of the top 10 wasn't too bad (not how I'd rank it personally but from what I remember Baba was the only weird one that high up)
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>mfw namori likes yakuza
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>>322817097
>I disagree you make some serious cash from it.

Yeah seriously. I had like 2 million yen by the end of Saejima's chapter because of that shit/.
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>>322816562
>Come back all maxed out and finished the sub stories dealing with it
>All traps were found and fixed all the huts
>Now can roll in cash by grinding an hour of killing everything I see since I can just refill my health from a hut and the golden rifle one shot kills anything
Shit becomes trivialized at the of end of it, but it was a sweet ride before it.
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>>322817408
i want like one good scene with all the protags just hanging out in a bar and or karaoke, just having fun and being bros
we only ever got that with nishiki and kiryu, and saejima and majima
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>>322817408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnpEVitf-gM
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>>322817604

I got kinda disappointed during haruka's chapter in five when she's going out to get crabs with akiyama and they didn't actually show it
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>>322817650

I hate how much I like this song.
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>>322817408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58eaHX62ufY
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>>322816312
>>322817117
6th most popular, apparantly.
1.) Majima
2.) Kiryu
3.) Saejima
4.) Akiyama
5.) Daigo
6.) Baba
7.) Tanimura
8.) Watase
9.) Ryuji
10.) Mine
11.) Haruka
12.) Kashiwagi
13.) Shinada
14.) Rikiya
15.) Date
16.) Arai
17.) Minami
18.) Ayanokoji
19.) Katsuya
20.) Nishiki

I wonder if the writers regret killing off Kashiwagi, Rikiya and Mine so unnecessarily?
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The creator of Yuru Yuri?

Neat.
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>All these shit taste faggots saying they hate Yakuza games

Fucking normies stay out of my niche games REEEEEEEE
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>>322817408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNlCaPoalm8
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>>322818050

Sometimes I think I'm the only one that liked Tanimura.

Like he wasn't amazing but I missed playing as him in 5.
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>>322818050
Jesus what do the Japs see in him?
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>>322818050
>Kashiwagi
They clearly did since in 0 he was extremely liked and showed how much of a bad ass him and Sera were in their prime.
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>>322817180

I don't know who that is.

Also I need more Yakzua fanart
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>>322817840
>embarassed about liking J-Pop
What a fag.
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>>322818613

If it makes you feel better I had the same feeling when I played through Project Diva F.

Melancholic best song
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>>322818368
Tanimura was pretty fun. Also had a much better fight style than most of the combined cast so far. People not liking him on character alone, well, I can see. He's kind of a dick, despite that changing not too far into his chapter.
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2 > all

this is indisputable

Kaoru a qt
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>>322818380
I thought he looked cool.

OREAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEHHH
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>>322818554
>doesn't watch and/or read YrYr
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>>322816312
To be fair, the series didn't have much in the way of non-throwaway characters before 5. I wouldn't place him that high, though.
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>>322818380
He's a pretty neat character plus he was cool in Ishin, I think that's how he ranked high, same with Mine, he was awesome in Ishin.
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>>322818934

The only anime I keep up with is jojo and Osomatsu-san
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Storywise:

2>1>0>5>>>>>>>>>>>3>4
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I thought the final fight in 5 was the best in the series, fight me.
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>>322818050
>no Kaoru
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>>322818554
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>>322819049
Everything else:

0>5>4>3>2>1

I keep being surprised at how much every game feels like a step up from the previous games while the series is still on an annual release schedule.
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>>322818864
>>322819031
Fair enough. I forgot to take the Samurai games into account as well.
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>>322819085
It had the coolest setpices, but that's like arguing that the prequels had better fights than the OT because it had more special effects and spinning.

Sure, 5 had a cool boss fight mechanically, but 1 and 2 still trump it thanks to the much better writing that actually built up to the final confrontations.
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>>322809957
>Kiryu Family
that's too potentially cool to ever actually happen
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>>322819336
The gameplay gets better with each installment, but I hope Y6 takes a page of 0 and drops the absurd amount of playable characters. It fucked the story of both 4 and 5. 0 Had it right with two character with multiple fighting styles (which made the gameplay better to boot)
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>>322818554
namori is a female mangaka that draws several mangos, yuru yuri is a really popular one
its about some cute girls doing cute things in grade school
never would have thought she was a rgg fan
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>>322819085
In terms of scope and actual gameplay, I'd be willing to agree. Mechanically, there are flaws, as usual, but 5 is still the most fun to play of the localized entries. The only ones to match it are Y2 and 3.
Speaking in terms of narrative? Nah. I want to like him, too, but he felt pretty weak in a great supporting cast.
Maybe they won't throw away 5's cast again in 6, I fucking hope so. It was so cool in 4 when Hamazaki, who was a fucking NOTHING character in 3, returned and was redeemed
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>>322819667
it was supposed to happen after the peace financial job in the very beginning of yakuza 1
but then you know what happened
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>>322818554
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>>322819476
>but 1 and 2 still trump it thanks to the much better writing that actually built up to the final confrontations.
Hoping 1's remake will boost it's final fight even more.
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>>322819985
Hopefully. 1 with better gameplay can definitely make it the #1 in the series for me.

Hopefully they'll remake 2 eventually. Best game in the series imo, and deserves a full remake.
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>>322819973
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>>322818368
At least he's not Shinada. A protagonist placing that low is pretty embarrassing.
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>>322820261
Apparently Japanese fans like his portion but didn't like his placement in the story, nor did many find his fighting style all that great. Only made worse when guys like Tanimura couldn't fight in the Arena, which I'm glad since it would have taken forever with him being weak and all and needing to parry and grab enemies in holds.

And funny enough Shinada has all his issues but since you can use him in the arena and have to for the 100% the issues are way more apparent besides a few factors that made the arena shit this time around.
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>>322818050
>1.) Majima
>2.) Kiryu
>3.) Saejima
>4.) Akiyama

Invert Saejima and Akiyama, and that list is pretty good.
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>>322819876
even a situation involving Kiryu setting up a family independant of the Tojo like that anon was saying, I can't see happening

>>322820261
I don't think he even shows up in Ishin either, which had a lot of 5's characters
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>>322820568

yeah, I was gonna complain about Akiyama being below Saejima but I mean #4 is not a bad place to be at all in a poll like this.
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>>322818858
I still ship them. Kazuma needs a strong lady with him like her
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Akiyama deserves his own solo spin-off.

I'd like a prequel showing how he built his unlimited money empire.
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>>322820603
Yep, neither he nor Tanimura are shown, which is shocking considering many secondary to sub story NPCs show up again with their models being used in Ishin for those sub stories and stuff.

>>322820761
And the voter turn out was impressive, over 22K voted for Majima, while 21K voted for Kiryu, while 18K voted for Taiga, while 16K voted for Akiyama.
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>>322820603
i agree
he really just feels done with yakuza in general
like he loves fighting and his friends and will come back to help them, but if given the option of becoming a real yakuza again and starting a family doesnt seem like it will happen
i hope we get a yakuza 0.5 set in like 1990 and its kiryu working in the dojima group and he has to face the chinese mafia, like in the flash back where hes being tortured
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>>322818050
Forget Baba, how is Daigo that high?
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>>322820934

People love and can relate to a fuckup.
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>>322820934
He looks cute in a dress. Not as cute as Majima, Kiryu, Saejima or Akiyama but better than Baba evidently.
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>>322820934
They can relate to someone who has so much on his shoulders and he has failings yet people are there for him. Girls like him because they think he's cute and a hottie and shit.
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>>322821139
And apparently a shota fuckboy in 0.

He's good at being a sex object I guess.
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>>322821158
i think daigo is hot as fuck
but only with his hair down, like in 2
goddamn he was fine
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Is it canon that Kaoru got married to some american cop?
That's a bummer because with each new game I kind of expect her to pop up and reclaim her love interest role for Kiryu. God knows he needs one by now.
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>>322820854
Did you not play 4?
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>>322821294
If they remake 2, and he looks good with the new artstyle you can be sure his votes will sky rocket.
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>>322821453
I did, but he just really skims over it. Lost everything thanks to his corrupt bank manager, Y1 happens, money falls from the sky, he got his first million and worked up.

I'd like to see the actual "got unlimited money" part of it, but I think that'd be impossible to explain.
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>>322818050
>TFW playable Daigo and Baba in 6
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Hooked up the PS2 and I'm going through Y1. Goddamn I forgot how fucking awesome the cast of this game is. Best one in the series by a fucking mile. Nishiki is a top tier villain.
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>>322821720
>daigos heat gives the enemies heat
>babas heat is him trying to kill himself but hurting the enemies on accident instead
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>>322820603
I can see it happening if they decide to remember that the Dojima (or "Fuma" according to Y3's localization?) Family should still be around despite what happened to Kashiwagi. There are tons of people within the Tojo who seem pretty ready and willing to ditch Daigo, on top of that we have people who would probably very willingly follow Kiryu around if given the opportunity. It requires a plot-driving force and all like everything else but I don't think it's that unlikely a scenario.

>>322821720
>Daigo was the actual 5th playable character in 5
>he fucks even that up, some guy from a baseball-related substory of his ends up being the player controlled character instead
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>>322821824
BRING THAT SHIT KAZUMA
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Unpopular opinion: I really miss the locked camera and I wish there was an option in the menu to let us play the game using it. It just made the towns feel so much more alive to me. I don't know why,
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>>322821824
No one will share my opinion on this
but 1 actually has my favorite soundtrack in the mainline series
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>>322822150
10 YEARS IN THE JOINT MADE YOU A FUCKING PUSSY.
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>>322822037
fuma was the name for kazama because the localizers thought it would get confusing in yakuza 1 to have 2 people named kazuma and kazama
then in 2 and beyond everyone called kazuma, kiryu instead so by 4 they dropped fuma
dojima stayed the same in all the games.
they did change dates name to mako and shimanos name to futo in yakuza 1
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>>322822171
oh god i thought i was the only one
1 and 2 had this atmosphere that was lost in the later games in my opinion
the camera angle felt so good. especially when it was high up or far away and it felt like kiryu was really just a single person in a huge crown in a bustling city
and the jacket physics too i miss those
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>>322822037
You mean the Kazama Family, not the Dojima Family. Dojima Family would be Daigo's guys, the Kazama Family was Shintaro's and then Kashiwagi's.
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>>322819759
>A game where muscular men rip shirts off to grapple each other is popular among girls

>>322819973
I really wish there was some side thing where kiryu is some UFO machine god and the workers panic whenever they see him come in.
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>>322822287
KILL THIS ARROGANT MO THER FUCK ER
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>>322822651
i thought muscular dudes in japan arent really thought of as attractive to women in japan, and that androgynous dudes are what they prefer?
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>>322822591
>the camera angle felt so good. especially when it was high up or far away and it felt like kiryu was really just a single person in a huge crown in a bustling city
and the jacket physics too i miss those

That's it. That's exactly what I miss in those. The feeling of being in a crowd. It just made the game feel so much more alive.
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>>322822795
There's a video of people watching the character countdown and there isn't a pair of dry panties when they show mine and majima.
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>>322822642
>>322822390
ah right, my bad
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>>322822770
HA HA HA
KIRYU HAS
RETURNED
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>>322822287
>10 YEARS IN THE JOINT MADE YOU A FUCKING PUSSY.

I fucking loved that dub. Even now, years later, I still love it.

Mark Hammil as Majima was a perfect casting choice.
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>>322822835
one day im going to make my yakuza inspired game and im going to put the fixed cameras in
its going to be so fun to make
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>>322822914
GET READY...

TO GET FUCKED UP
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>>322822952
i thought all the voices were great, just that the acting was bad
like if they had a really good voice director everything would have been so much better
kurylo was pretty good during combat in my opinion
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>doing Akiyama's training and stuff
>see that dude with the VR thing
>do a quick round for shits and giggles
>actually boosts heat

fuck how did I miss that with Kiryu and Saejima

>>322822835

I still get that feeling at times when the only way I can get through a street is knocking people over.
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>>322822952
I actually do kinda enjoy 1's dub as well.
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>>322822903
I'd like to see that video. But is it one of those videos you have to search by name in japanese to find?
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>>322822795

That's about as true as saying women in America only like big beefy dudes and there's no market for bishies
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>A game where muscular men rip shirts off to grapple each other is popular among girls

I will never understand how they keep pulling off a three piece suit in one swift motion.
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>>322823258
im watching it right now and kiryus english va is decent
he has nice tone and he sounds pretty equal to kuroda
its just the delivery is poor at times
still dig it though
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>>322823424
its a heat action
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>>322823187
>I still get that feeling at times when the only way I can get through a street is knocking people over.

Yeah, but it's different. I don't know, but there's something about Y1 and 2, the camera being all the way up there, countless NPCs standing around talking, the sound of dozens people talking and walking on the background.

It was so different than anything I'd seen before. Most games witha fixed camera were horror games that did it to show isolation. Yakuza did it with the opposite effect: It made you feel like you were in a living world. I miss that feeling.
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>>322819985
I don't just want him to be tougher, hell I just hope the musical track isn't butchered but from samples so far, it isn't looking too good.
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>>322823619
i know
its a little sad that they arent going to have a fixed cam in kiwami
god it would be so nice with the update graphics
its sad in general that fixed cameras are seen as old and outdated
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>>322823424
>I will never understand how they keep pulling off a three piece suit in one swift motion.

Japanese action trope. Looks utterly stupid, but even "serious" japanese movies and series do it.

I compare it to the western action movie trope of having a gigantic explosion happen right behind a character as he jumps forward, and he never gets hurt. It's absurd, but we're used to it.
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Yakuza 5 is the best overall in the series so far. Not counting the ones that haven't been released in Japan
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>>322823826
released in US*
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>>322823826
Zero is better. Both story and gameplay wise. Being able to change styles is great, and the game is so fluid it feels like devil may cry at times.
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>>322823984
>>322823946
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>>322823826
And Zero is better in both story and gameplay department. Ishin may also be up there but like Kenzan it tries to do different things with the conventions switched up so its hard to rank and compare them.
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How in the hell did Majima become so popular. I love him too, but his popularity is insane. It took 7 games for him to even become playable (Not counting Dead Souls)
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>>322823984
yeah when 0 hits the states its going to be the new best
the combat just feels so fluid in 0 its crazy
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>>322824158
>>322823946
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>>322824267
its hype nigga
majima is the hype king and when we finally got to play him, not counting dead souls, it was so worth it
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>>322818050
>Haruka not even top 10

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>322824273
its probably because its finally 60fps now
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>>322824401
I really liked Haruka before 5. I don't know, I guess I just wished she'd become a different character than what she ended up being.
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>>322824472
Well Ishin was also 60 fps so Zero wasn't the first, glad they experimented before Zero because that easily was the reason they were able to bring out the best they could offer at the point for a mainline game. The only thing that was not so great was the gear heat mechanic which they're replacing for Kiwami.
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I thought Majima not being wacky all game in Zero was the writers understanding that dealing with that for an entire game would get annoying after a while (even in Dead Souls his segment was pretty short really)
but the Majima Everywhere system in Kiwami makes me wonder if that's true
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>>322824472
yeah thats probably
playing yakuza in 60fps is so good that i dont understand why people still say that 30 is better
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>>322824472
The mechanics are different too. You'll see it when you play it, but japanese players were comparing it to games like DMC and Bayonetta.
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>>322824619
how much would it be to get a tattoo like them?
not done in the japanese way, but like from a parlor?
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>>322824680
>but japanese players were comparing it to games like DMC and Bayonetta.
That was more Ishin because of the added gun and it really did feel like it, since the game has a counter/combo gauge.
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>>322824619
Majima's introduction in 0 is fucking perfect. He's such a great character, I can't believe it took this long for him to take the spotlight.
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>>322824542
She wasn't even her own character in 5. Just an extension of Park.
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>>322824542
They suddenly made her wanna be an idol even though in older games she didn't give a shit about them.
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>>322824941

>muh yume
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did haruka really find kiryu in the snow?
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>>322824941
Yeah, that was the problem. She just becomes her own character at the very end, and even so, it's just going back to the status quo.
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>>322825018
I know a lot of people thought that it was just Kiryu hallucinating
but then he shouldn't be seeing Haruka in those concert clothes in that case
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>Haruka spends the entire game chasing Park's dream
>Sees Akiyama and Kiryu fighting on TV
>"Oh shit this isn't where I belong"
>Throws everything away and reveals her connection to the Yakuza on live TV in the middle of the Tokyo Dome


What a dumbass
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So, the best scene in 5 was the 3 Yakuza families bowing to Akiyama right?
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>>322825761
naw man it was majima and saejimas fight
>i sent the expulsion letter
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>You will need at least 10 million yen or more to buy every weapon in Kamiyama's store
Fucking damn
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>>322825481
It was an incredibly selfish thing to do and makes Haruka into a huge cunt.

>all the work and money spent to set this up
>Park literally died for it
>halfway through the concert she says "um I changed my mind fuck you I quit"

Just think how many people she fucked over doing this.
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>>322827668
It was bittersweet for me
on one hand, I didn't like Haruka being an idol at all to begin with and the in-story justification for it seemed incredibly weak to me
on the otherhand, what was the point of all that shit even in the end?

Dunno what to think of it really
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>>322825761
>How does it feel to be the only loan shark to be above the yakuza?

>I've had better days...
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>>322820872
I thought yakuza 0 played up until the beginning of 1
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>>322828759
no its set in 1988
ends maybe like 1-2 months after december i think
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>>322825761
I still understand why.
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>>322828759
No it's set in 88 and kinda stays there.
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>>322828390
>on the otherhand, what was the point of all that shit even in the end?

pad out the game
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>>322828759
7 years before the start of 1, and it leads up to it, though many were disappointed it didn't explore the vague relationship Majima and Kiryu had which would have explained the whole obsessiveness of Majima having it out for Kiryu, like there could be a 0.5 to explain that, but I guess they're gonna use Kiwami to do that? Maybe.

In fact as a prequel, 0 only does a decent job at best at bridging the two games, there really could have been so much more, instead they went and just said, "Play Kiwami for the stuff not in 0" and instead went with a self contained story which is fine but they could have done both.
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>Have Lucky Bind on
>That dumb email saying "Your luck is amazing today"
>No plates out of 30 random quick battles that I did
I just don't get it
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