>The first topic discussed during the interview was Splatoon. After Sankei mentions that it’s selling well, Kimishima said that painting colors as a way of battle and the characters allow it to be accepted by a family audience. He added that, in the future, it’s possible to extend it widely like Super Mario Bros.
What did he mean by this?
>Finally, on the topic of NX, Kimishima noted that it will need to be an attractive system that gets them to jump in. He also reiterated said that Nintendo aims for it to be a new experience totally different from Wii U and 3DS, and development is steadily progressing.
It's another gimmick console isn't it?
Nintendo isn't going to drop Splatoon. They'll expand it into different series, rather than just multiplayer shooter. Expect "Splat Party" for the NX, a party game featuring inklings where the various minigames are paint themed. Perhaps "Splat Kart" and "Super Splat Kids" could also be things in the future.
That's their excuse for wanting to play around with new tech and gimmicks.
They were lucky that game sold well purely because there was nothing else. They are fools if they try to milk it like that.
Squid Sisters rhythm game!
>NX is probably a gimmick console
fuck my life
Nintendo don't fuck this up
Literally no one wants a 3rd gimmick console in a row
>They were lucky that game sold well purely because there was nothing else.
Don't you talk shit about Callie like that, I will fuck you up.
>>The first topic discussed during the interview was Splatoon. After Sankei mentions that it’s selling well, Kimishima said that painting colors as a way of battle and the characters allow it to be accepted by a family audience. He added that, in the future, it’s possible to extend it widely like Super Mario Bros.
Just make it an anime.
That may be true but it's already cultivated an obsessive fan following and nintendo would be stupid not to strike while the iron is hot and cash in with as many splatoon spin offs as possible.
Yeah it probably is. Nintendo refuses to realize that no one cares about gimmicks anymore, the ride is over and they wont have another boom like the Wii. It's done, they need to give up on the weak console with gimmick philosophy, stop pandering to casual scum and move back to real games.
That's completely moronic to think Nintendo could ever go back to the core gamer market. Letting Sony and Microsoft fight for that audience and continuing to produce something actually different is their only way to make any kind of profit.
>The man who created Super Mario and Donkey Kong, Shigeru Miyamoto — who now oversees the entire games department at Nintendo — offered a more thorough explanation for the Wii U’s failure in a recent interview with NPR. His first reason comes down to price:
>"Unfortunately with our latest system, the Wii U, the price point was one that ended up getting a little higher than we wanted."
>Thankfully, Miyamoto wasn’t done explaining why he thinks the Wii U failed. The bigger issue, he says, is that the defining tech is a tablet-like gamepad, and actual tablets were far, far more powerful.
>"What ended up happening was that tablets themselves appeared in the marketplace and evolved very, very rapidly, and unfortunately the Wii [U] system launched at a time where the uniqueness of those features were perhaps not as strong as they were when we had first begun developing them."
Nintendo isn't even worth being 3rd Party at this point
All the good Wii U games were all oursourced games like W101 and Tropical Freeze, retro can just find a new publisher that is no EA
they can just die, is okay they had a good run
Then they're dead. Because there is no casual/nongamer market left for them. The Wii died off, WiiU is dead in the water, and 3DS trickled off at around 50m sales, far short of its predecessors. The casual market is no longer, and will never again be Nintendo's. They need to fight back or permanantly lose the industry to Microsoft and Sony. Bowing out and pandering to casuals is literally running away with their tail between their legs because those stupid fucking chinks in their board of directors got too comfy with selling Mario over and over again to retards who don't expect to have to change.
New experience as in they claim this won't halt 3ds and WiiU support. We had the same story when the DS was around the corner. Hell, they can't even manage simultaneous development streams for the WiiU and 3ds. What makes you think they can support a third mouth?
Prove they're not without citing money. Everyone complains about the Wii after the novelty wore off. No one cares about Nintendo anymore, as their relevancy is CLEARLY fading. Gimmick's are nothing but just that, gimmicks. They should never have been the full focus of the console, they should have continued to be side things like they always were. Nintendo got greedy and got caught with their pants down around their ankles with no one but the most faithful drones to suck their corporate dick.
Gamers are aging anon, no one wants gimmicks anymore. We want what we grew up with, and that's good gameplay...not a waggle stick or tilting gamepads.
Again, you are getting the wrong idea because of that parroted shit you posted. By new experience they just say that it won't feel like a 3DS or a Wii U, not that it won't replace them.
Back then with the DS, they said that the DS would not replace the Gameboy, not that the DS was going to be a completely new experience.
Yea, and look what we got with the DS. Ignored IP's, casualized main IP titles, and VERY invasive forced touchscreen use everywhere. You cant damage control this shill-san, gimmicks are dead except to casuals, which are a non relevant market now. Your time is over and you're scared. Goodbye fuccboi.
>no one should like what i dislike!
What exactly do bitter trolls like you seek to accomplish?go fuck yourself
Their best selling games are still casual games like Pokemon, Mario Kart and Smash. Something a little harder like DKC Tropical Freeze or Bayonetta sold like shit in comparison.
Something that I'll never understand is this weird hatred of "gimmicks". Like, when the time comes and the PS5 and NeXtBox come out, will we really just want it to be the exact same console with the exact same controllers , hub, and online experience just with slightly better graphics? Like, aren't Kinect, PS4's Share/Stream, and VR as a whole just gimmicks anyway?
Yeah, and look at the penetration rates of those platforms. WiiU sold like shit while, 3DS (while not successful, as the DS because ONCE AGAIN PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF GIMMICKS) has a much better chance at sales. Pokemon always sells hotter than wildfire regardless so its a moot point. As far as Mario kart, it's definitly lacking and smash 4 is nowhere near single platform performance of its predecessors. Attaching both platforms together and citing it as success is not only falsifying information but straight and outright bloat.
It has everything to do with Nintendo, their direction, and their future. You just dont like being outed as a casual.
He means that it's a kid and family friendly shooter and it made them realize that they should double down on what works and sells and will go balls deep in splatoon.
Making it a quasi IP alongside mario brothers and the others.
As for the NX he's basically stating that it will not be a shitty attempt at pushing the 3DS and tablet through a console.
However, that might be a redherring. They might try to use a console as a pseudo trojan horse to push their handheld and instead of having a useless tablet controller that fucks up everything, they'll go full bore and make a quasi 3DS controller with a clamshell design.
If it has as much functionality as a mid tier android phone, is made of nintendium, has internal storage and sd card slot instead of cartridge slot, can play games from the console or minigames from teh console on it as well as stream games from it, download gameboy, ds, 3DS, and virtual toys, as well as console, dlc and full sized games from places..
It will displace the relatively cheap android phone as the go to gaming and media device for children.
If The NX is in the 200 dollar range, they tripple down on their own IP, buy those few IP that always sell on their console, and keep to the theme of nostalgia and creating child young teen and family friendly entries into certain genres like racing, fighting, sports, shooters, dancing, etc etc AND have the aforementioned handheld controller, AND allowed for full backwards compatibility as well as the ability to use any and all hardware from the wii all the way up to now?
It'll be over.
All they'll need is a media blitz and a killer app. And if those controllers are handhelds like I think..then they'll only need a good multiplayer game that allows you to take those handheld controllers on the road.
The casual still exists, they just didn't want the wiiu..and from the sales of the current gen consoles and how unhappy current gamers in the correct age bracket are...they aren't happy about it either.
Nintendo only has to lure in the people they got onto their ballsack with the wii with a cheap game filled console and a shitload of unique games that aren't just the same two games spread out over 3 genres and sports sims.
Have free online
Don't get into the retardatio of needing to install to the hard drive to even boot the fucking game,..
And they'll have every fucking thing they need to carve out a sizeable niche away from the dying gaming industry.
casuals moved back to not caring or smartphones. It's over. They can bring back old Nintendo gamers (who number in the 10's of millions, everyone knows Nintendo.) or they can fade into irrelevancy and being a 3rd party dev.
>Pokemon always sells hotter than wildfire regardless so its a moot point
A casual series that is always successful is a moot point? How do you type this with a straight face?
>As far as Mario kart, it's definitly lacking
Both the 3DS and Wii U version sold well. What "hardcore" racer has sold better, pray tell? F-Zero?
>smash 4 is nowhere near single platform performance of its predecessors. Attaching both platforms together and citing it as success is not only falsifying information but straight and outright bloat.
Falsifying information? You're full of fucking shit, dude. Smash Wii U already has the highest attachment rate out of all the Smash games, this is not even considering that the 3DS version took away some of its sales.
control-wise why wouldn't you?
all he was saying was that the motion control and gimmicky shit should just remain the afterthought it used to be(or generally is for any other game company who isn't nintendo).
banking on them is just a bad idea. unless the just stick with the original wii style, but they really can't do that either without showing all those families that it's worth replacing it with the next gen follow up.
Yeah, when dev's actually bother using the thing it feels fucking great. Xenoblade X nails that shit.
Other honorable mentions go to Splatoon and Monster Hunter 3U. Allocating menu's and maps to the gamepad for swift easy control is the ideal, non gimmicky practical application of it.. problem is, no dev's bother to even fucking use it outside of some forced non-engaging gimmick.
>It has everything to do with Nintendo, their direction, and their future. You just dont like being outed as a casual.
Being a new experience has nothing to do with it replacing or not the 3DS and Wii U you fucking piece of shit. You were not talking about anything else. You literally said that saying "New experience" somehow meant they also said "Won't replace Wii U and 3DS" you god damn retard.
do you get a rise out of saying things like that?
I heard Deus Ex did it correctly with item management, but unfortunatelly they decided using the gamepad for sniping was a good idea. They pretty much made it so that you cannot use the sticks OR the TV at all for aiming with the sniper
Wii U and 3DS were precisely trying to cater an audience beyond the expanded audience. That was a mistake.
And being honest, they weren't presenting "new ways to play" exactly. Those weren't the Next Big Thing for the masses.
If anything, that proves the point even further.
Like the quote mentions earlier up, the Wii U tablet was released right behind the curve of tablet boom. It's no longer a new gimmick to common people, just another tablet competitor. Hell, it's not even that gimmicky as far as games go, touch pads have been around forever, it's just the only major home console that's implemented it as strongly.
Whether you like it or not, gimmicks sell. There's a reason both Microsoft and Sony hopped on that train hard-fucking-core after the Wii.
No, see, the casuals DO care, They still bust out those wiis and try to dance off the fat or give the kids the toy so they can play wii sports or something.
Problem is, the last gen went on for nearly a decade and the casuals are used to that and the children who were born and grew up during that time only know of consoles as those things that they get games for not an event in and of themselves.
The current casual and gamer hostile console gen is seeing the slowest most begrudging adoption ever. And I can garauntee that none of us will ever see the ps4 or xb1 gettign 50 million real confirmed unique sales ever.
Let alone seeing decent game sales.
If the casuals go the industry goes. And from the looks of things, the industries stupidity has basically chased all of them away.
As for smartphones? Dude the only people who think the smartphones and tablet scan replace a real gaming experience from a game dedicated console are retarded suits and shills.
The only thing the casuals need is something relatively cheap to play, something they can all talk about, and something that everyone can instantly recognize and get into.
And anyone who's ever seen a kid with a smartphone KNOWS that they do not really get into those games. They'll play one cheaply made piece of shit dump it get exasperated that they're 50 dollar walmart special can't play the latest storage space stealing, hardware lifespan shortening game then leave the smart device on the floor to play on a real console.
THAT is the truth. If nintendo gives kids REAL gaming experiences in the form of a handheld and kid friendly versions of genre entries, like splatoon. Then they'll win those casual back.
Hell, they'll take over the entire child market.
The big thing I think Nintendo forgets is, appealing to the hyper casual market can rake in a lot of sales, but they do NOT stick around. The Wii sold to Soccer moms. They dont give a flying fuck about consoles, they just buy whichever new thing is hot.
The Wii U assumed there was brand loyalty with them. There wasn't. It tried to strike a balance between hyper casual and classic Nintendo loyalists and missed on both fronts.
they are focusing on families
in fucking 2016, when 90% of people are busy working and the only people that play videogames are either kids or young adults with no family to take care of
they are stupid like always, catering to people that don't give a shit about videogames, fuck these idiots I'm buying a ps4.
The problem with the wiiu tablet is that they tied it 100% to the console and failed to prove it's value.
Even worse the few things it could have been good at were hampered by them cheap bitching out on certain things. Like streaming a video game to the handheld or battery power.
If they only released those 8 gig Wiius with two pro controllers and a few hastily but well put together mario games a metroid shooter and an Fzero for 150 dollars they would have been able to save themselves from death.
BUT either because of pride or abject stupidity they 'stayed the course' and ran directly into a fucking iceberg, luckily for them a ship called splatoon came by and helped them out.
But it's too little too late.
Miyamoto is deluded. WiiU failed because of
>no third party games because of weak hardware
>Wii was a fluke and they're trying to ride off of the Wiis success
Casual people still don't know that the wiiU is Nintendo's next console.
>literally saying "lol tablets were everywhere and very powerful didn't expect that despite technology being the most rapid expanding thing and us being hardware manifacturers lmao!"
they are not only completely oblivious to gamer demographic, but also to technology as a whole, seriously how can these idiots even be afloat in 2016? they seriously need to be burned to ashes and their IPs used by real companies, it's like alice in wonderland with a mad queen at the helm with them, fucking absurd.
I'm just really sick of Nintendo trying to be the new Disney
That's my only hope for the NX, that Nintendo doesn't make Disney looking shit.
Honestly, I dont even think its just "the" problem. I mean, youre definitely right, they dropped the ball on that, but on pretty much every other point as well.
A tablet is a great idea for gaming. They failed to capitilize on it's ability. They failed to deliver a good number of quality games (there's a great handfull now, but too little too late). They failed to communicate an effective difference between it and the Wii with their shitty name and samey design(again, hoping to capitilize on brand loyalty that wasnt there). They gimped the console to make the price more manageable, but it was still too expensive at first for what it's goals were, instead hitting an awkward middle ground of "too expensive to be casual bait, too cheaply made to have real power."
I like the Wii U, but Nintendo seriously dropped the ball this time around.
The hyper casuals want more of the same thing except better and for the same price or cheaper.
NIntendo thought they could cheap bitch around with a deeply illconcieved console because they thought they had them.
They were fucking wrong.
The system is a clusterfuck of flawed concepts.
By the by, those hyper casuals were the ones who made the last gen the longest and most successful ever.
Have fun with your tiny and shrinking piss puddle of HARDCORE gamers.
I'm still mad Splatoon did so well because all it did was encourage Nintendo to start cutting content from their game and releasing it later as updates to artificially extend the lifetime of their games and simultaneously continue to make their online have as little freedom as possible for the users.
>It's another gimmick console isn't it?
Seriously what is wrong with this? Some times gimmicks suck (wii) and sometimes they are great (DS), but having a shitty gimmick is still better than pretending to be a PC.
Nigga if you actually used it, youd know it is.
When a game uses it well, its fucking awesome. Cutting out bullshit menus and streamlining the process at the loss of what exactly (outside of monetary issues, but thats a different problem entirely.) The DS has been doing this shit for years, and doing it well.
The problem is, only a handful of games use it in a not bullshit way.
I don't get it. Most of the games on Wii U only use the tablet as a menu or something. The only real games that used it for motion or interaction are ironically some of the most worthwhile games worth playing on the console: Splatoon, Xenoblade X, Fatal Frame 5, and Wonderful 101. Tropical Freeze, Bayonetta 2, Mario Kart, Smash 4, and Wooly World don't really use the touchscreen at all. I wouldn't say it's a failure as a controller either, it pretty much operates like an Xbox controller layout wise and isn't uncomfortable at all. Seems more like a misinformation thing to me, and FISHER PRICE memespouters with extreme bias towards learning anything new.
Dude, fucking wake up. It's not fucking 1997 anymore.
We aren't all shocked and awed by shit like blood in mortal kombat and the naught words or hot coffee mod in gta.
That shit is over.
Children and families do buy consoles,
It's no one's fault that sony and ms have doubled down on adolescent sophistry and the shills for the AAA conglomerate are DESPERATELY trying to shill their IPS to a child audience that is bored of them already.
Families and children are where the money is. Just ask disney.
Besides, that fucking console needs to take off and be the family, casual, woman and budet friendly face of gaming for the PR and to embiggen the base of gamers and genres.
Or the contraction of the industry will continue unabated.
>Nintendo aims for it to be a new experience totally different from Wii U and 3DS
Both the Wii U and 3DS are gimmicky underpowered pieces of shit, does it mean the NX will be a normal console again? Surely they have noticed how well the PS4 is selling by now.
At least they're FREE updates contrary to some games that come with half its content despite still being priced $60 dollarooneys + paying for the other half of the content. Some games are justified, others are not, it mostly ends up being the latter.
Like Smash, I'm not sure if they really did ALL they could with the games considering most of the assets are fucking re-used. If they really did all they could until the deadline was met and Sakurai just fucking went "Fuck, guys, we ain't gonna be able to stuff this shit up, wrap it up, fellas", I'd at least understand the whole DLC shit, it's just more food for your dish except, of course, you have to buy it in order to make your dish really worth it or whatever food analogy that works with
there is none.
They could have made it FREE unlockable DLC, but that wouldn't really help with the funds they might have spent doing that DLC shit and people always come up with the easiest ways to unlock shit.
Then again, they ARE making maps for Splatoon for free unless, of course, shit's just been locked up in the disc up until the update where they "announce" a map that's already been there in the disc and that's why it's free.
When those ps4 hard drives start filing up and the ps3s are completely sunsettted and people realize that you can build a pc for 200 bucks that does everything the ps4 can do then...sony is pretty much fucked.
They have no unique ps4 only games, it still costs too much, the peripherels cost too much, the games look only slightly better then last gen and you're honestly only pay for pricier version of last gen titles.
There's only so long people will be able to justify their purchases to themselves.
I'm already seeing people selling of their consoles and just giving up console gaming altogether.
The crash isn't going to be big ladies and gentleman. It's going to be a slow steady deflation. Till eventually...POP.
The latter part of last gen was basically screaming that shit is going to get bad, and the anti casual black pr as well as mid sized devs chasing embezzlment tier money dreams o the ps360 and smartphone markets.
There is a reason why sony is floating the idea of a second more powerful console and ms had doubled down on the xbox 360 and backwards compatibility.
And why don't they, anyway? Other systems have been little more than progressively powerful PS1s with extra online features over the years. No one outside Nintendo tried to take advantage of the Wiimote or GamePad and I find that sad, because all we've had for the past twenty years aside from that is just a bunch of DualShock clones.
It's like the only non-horsepower/online advancement gamers have cared about since is VR, and most of them still want to use their 360 controllers with it anyway. Nintendo-made or not, I find it sad no one's even TRYING to be serious with new control methods.
>no one should like what i dislike!
Thats not what I said, my post wasn't about anyone else
Just saying they can die for all I care since they are dead to ME(not you)
You cam keep going about your day, just don't worry about me
Nintendo is fucking dead. You'd be stupid to care about the NX.
I just want the to drop the WiiU already, since no new games are coming to it, so I can move onto Smash modding and enulation, and stop giving a fuck.
Nintendo needs to stop this shit. No one cares about gimmicks anymore, they just want a "powerful" console with a glossy design, straightforward online system and a control that doesn't look like it came out of leap frog.
This ain't the 90's anymore. either conform like everyone else or become irrelevant like Sega did.
>Sony is pretty much fucked
1) You cannot build a $200 PC that does everything the PS4 does
2) Even if you could, the fact that you have to do any amount of research and self-assembly means that the average consumer won't do it at all. They won't even know the option exists.
3) You're seriously underestimating how bad a lot of people are with computers. The first time a game doesn't work and they have to tweak a setting, it's game over, they're going back to consoles.
>Why hasn't anyone told Nintendo that people don't want new ways to play?
people are sheeps, they dont know what they want, they see somethign and then is a gamble either it click on em or not.
>People dont want new ways to play
this is the mentality why we still only have a d pad and A B , right?
Everyone took advantage of the wiimote. Even to the disadvantage of some games,
Not even fucking nintendo tried to take advantage of it.
Only tie down the system with it while screaming about how awesome and useful it is.
Niggas are fucking crazy.
Ditch that shit.
Decouple the wiiu controller from the consoles, selling the wiius with pro controllers and at least allow people to use their tablets with those games if they need that functionality.
Shit or get off the fucking pot.
1.Potatomasher, and the costs of the system are only going to go down
2.It will take less then month for the information to build it becomes a household thing. Hell most adolescent boys and men became fucking shade tree electrical engineers when it came to fixing their cars and speaker systems, and women are happy with a cheap system they can pick up from the store and we are less then one more year away from having cheap sprawlmart specials that are almost equal to current gen systems.
3.The fucking current gen consoles have games that are released BROKEN day one.
PURPOSELY. Not only that the games have to be installed to the hard drive AND we oft have to download multigig fixes and we have to pay to use our own internet to do pvp.
This has every single thing that is WRONG with the pc but not a single solitary good from it.
When the breadbox with a hand tweaked UI sans the steam memetic virus becomes a thing...it's over for current gen consoles.
>accepted by a family audience
fuck modern nintendo. everything they do revolves around family audience. when I was 8 gaming on my snes, I didn't want the fucking family around. everytime cammy would turn around in ssf 2 I knew that's what I wanted out of games, not nightmarish horribly dismorphic squid-like abominations.