>OMG SOMETHING IS POPULAR AND I DON'T LIKE IT I MUST BE OLD
Nah. It's the weirdo fandom jump that happens every few months. Ponies, to Steven Universe, to Undertale, and so on. The moment they find something new they'll dump Undertale just like the other fads.
How hard would it have been to say "I'm too old for these new-fangled games." and maybe made a joke about 'back in my day'. Also the fact that he says he doesn't even recognize it as a game shows what a faggot he is.
Someone post his horrifyingly long and obtuse blog post about Undertale which basically boils down to "it's overrated."
>kiddoes play Undertale
>he meet kids in real life
You could say the exact same thing about Homestuck, and the guy who made UT did some work on Homestuck. It's mainly because they just took some of the visual style and presentation of games like Earthbound into their works but at its core they're very new age and tumblrish (I'm hesitant to use tumblr as an adjective but if Homestuck and things like it aren't "tumblr" then nothing is.)
I thought thirteen year olds would be playing something like COD and be more into a game having better graphics.
I was wondering though, why is he talking to thirteen year olds?
Probably a thing for little boys.
You guys get way too defensive over this. He wouldn't have made music tracks if he weren't friends with those involved and didn't like Homestuck. Also, homestuck was paying its own homage to Earthbound and then Toby did the same for his game. It's not unreasonable at all to make comparisons.
Besides, Homestuck would have been great if Act 5(?), the one where the trolls got focus, never happened. If it just stayed about the 4 initial kids it would have stayed decent.
No clue, I realise I don't truly know anyone born after 1999.
Early Onset Coot Disease
Undertale is the New Game You Have To Like Or You Don’t Get It. These sanctified vessels are selected by an organization that is either lofty or subterranean, I haven’t decided, and one of the cool things about being old is that I don’t care.
These hyper-earnest teens I got on my block are way into this stuff. I’m glad that someone is teaching them new words. But I can sense a kind of invisible maze go up when they start this conversation - they want to know if I can be trusted. If I’m like the others. They want to know if they can tell me the secret, and they will, provided I already know it. So I lied. I lied and lied and lied.
There is a popular mode now I have taken to calling Double Reverse Irony, where things are real but not real but no they’re actually real, that is just one step beyond where I’m interested. My policy when the next generation “does them” is informed by 2pac’s I Ain’t Mad At Cha, and I only get mad when people transform works into litmus tests. In the case of Undertale, I can’t abstract it enough to even look at it: I can’t hold it far enough away. The thing it is dismantling is too close to me.
Parody can be revelatory of weakness in the subject, but it can also reveal strength; it can reveal what’s left after the softest parts are washed away. Even when done in love, it has a caustic quality. An extended look at metals extraction probably isn’t appropriate for this paragraph, but I’m thinking about gold cyanidation and toxicity. The game is gleeful in its cannibalism of the medium, there’s blood all over its face but it’s smiling. It’s intimate with the tropes it has on display, and at this precise moment in time I’m discomfited by what it does with that familiarity.
It is insufficiently reverent, and does not perform the proper obeisances. Others like it for precisely these reasons. I’m delighted by the iconoclasm intellectually and repulsed by it viscerally; if nothing else, it’s providing an intense psychological workout.
Dude, he's made like half a hundred songs/arrangements for Homestuck and was the manager of the music team as a whole by the second year.
Shit, I'm pretty sure he still is, actually.
That's not a demerit, either, Toby's MSPA tracks are fucking rad.
>/v/'s lol threads introduced you to a new webcomic
What's it's name?
I don't mean SJW tumblrish I mean regular tumblrish. It's not necessarily a bad thing. There's just not really a good adjecitve for something that appeals to very young, unjaded geeks. Emphasis on the unjaded part really.
There's a word you're looking for. "sincere"
It's hard to admit that people who are jaded in the way you describe are basically just post-modern constructs that think they're better than they are. (not that that's their fault, the media they consume literally crafts them to be this way) And now, much like everyone else in society, refuses to like anything and if they can they will "like" it with a layer of irony.
There is such a thing as bad or poorly done stylization. There are very few people who pull off the coloured noses things, it can look good when done right but its this decade's "draw everything in a western art style but throw anime eyes onto our characters" meme.
>There is such a thing as bad or poorly done stylization
only insofar as there is such a thing as technically deficient (and even then you can argue). What you're saying is just "I don't like this, but I like it in the way these guys do it, not these ones"
It's not an interesting or meaningful statement to make.
that comic is more erotic than anything Ive seen today
>Homestuck would have been great
Just fuck off. It is, always has been, and always will be, trash for those weird furry kids that sat by themselves and looked like they could all either start fucking or shooting up the school at any moment. Just like Undertale. They are both trash for faggots.
Based Pooh. Everything else is subpar garbage.
It's drawn by a very well known loli artist who draws H-manga, so yeah. It's drawn cute with a hint of eroticism but without being fanservice, it's perfect.
hardly ever see this good coloring from japan
You have to look at the upside, the artist knows how to lewdly show a loli, so he knows also how to keep her pure, which is great.
Because I can?
Enough for creepiness to creep up on you without noticing.
I do it for you baby.
I'll agree that the furshit made it worse, but it was always terrible to begin with.
I'm just salty because sweet bro and hella jeff is better. Don't take me too seriously.
Nothing stopping me from trying.
I usually post another sort of 'short story' on LOL threads, but though it might be nice to post something cute.
There's nothing wrong with liking loli.
Soon. You can't rush good horror.
Cause the lion thing is symbolic or something. Because as a lion their tranniness is super obvious through the mane without actually drawing the things like a dick or something that would make it obvious that he's a man in human terms, and no tranny wants to draw themselves as unfeminine looking men.
I don't see the point your trying to make with this image. Its obvious you don't understand anything about grammar. Their are to many anons like you who try to act smart and fail, and there all more retarded than the users their insulting.
When do you think they'll start marketing low poly games as nostalgic? They'll probably pussy out because early 3d was just ugly and go for something like pic related instead.
You're already on it. A rollercoaster slowly cranks up and then crashes at full speed.
This one fucking slays me every time
Don't know what it is about it
but was it...?!!!!!
I think it's the 'tsk tsk', it's so fucking stupid.
>not liking other people fetishes makes you a degenerate.
Nothing wrong with like loli.
It's not that it's
Like what do you expect from nip stuff at this point? Are you 12? Did you just discover loli was a thing? Are you not familiar with anime and manga?
No one likes a whiner.
not webcomic, but Don Rosa's Scrooge
Well it's a fucking drawing. It's a 2D representation of something. Would it be wrong for me to draw mass murder?
Let me break it down for you: pedophilia is considered wrong because of its capacity to bring physical and emotional harm to children. It's wrong to sexually penetrate children who's bodies aren't ready for sex, and being introduced to sexual acts before puberty can severely fuck up a person. So sexual interaction with kids is considered wrong, made illegal, and carries severe social disapproval. People can and will protect their children from that sort of thing, and they're right to do so.
Enter child pornography. Actual CP is illegal for a variety of reasons that stem from the reasons in the previous paragraph for why sexual interaction with kids is a no-no. It's potentially and VERY LIKELY exploitative of the children being photographed/videoed, and nobody should be put through that before they can make a level headed decision as to whether or not they want to have their nude image captured or perform sex acts in front of a camera. It's wrong to do those kinds of things to kids (from a common morality), and thus it's illegal and looked down upon with a heavy stigma to produce or partake in CP.
Enter loli. Loli isn't actually connected to the two concepts above natively. Loli is art, and should be protected as such. Nobody was exploited or abused in its creation, nobody is profiting from said abuse. Whether or not people get turned on by/masturbate to it is irrelevant. It's just art.
I said 'Heh'.
Oh, I recognize that art. I wish he'd make more rape.
I don't even like loli, but this is an excellent post.
You're welcome, though I tend to sometimes derail LOL threads with something more shocking involving lolis.
Worse, look at the buildings on the left side. The road was cut off.
I post the autistic guy and the loli's bell.
If you've been in LOL threads a few times, you might have noticed me posting it.
How could he not recognize Undertale as a game?
Honestly, what's the difference between Undertale and Earthbound that disqualifies Undertale as a game?
Maybe he IS getting old, because he's gone senile.
For the rape artist of >>322753409 ?
Sure. It's as109
However, loli can reinforce pedophilic urges and cause both of those things. Sure, there is nothing inherently wrong lighting a cigarette at a gas station, it's the explosion that nobody wants
sorry for shitty metaphor but I hope it explained my point
You are willing to defend it as long as you're hiding your face but you can't hide the fact that you enjoy to pleasure yourself with that kind of stuff. You don't defend the art because of it's rights, you defend it because you want more of it.
>loli can reinforce pedophilic urges and cause both of those things
That's the same tired logic people used to say Rock n Roll caused devil worship or that Doom caused school shootings
Fantasy and reality are separate, anon. Someone who otherwise wouldn't hurt a child isn't going to magically lose their moral compass because of a drawing.
>loli can reinforce pedophilic urges and cause both of those things.
And video games cause violence and mass shooting. How do you know what causes urges? Have you fapped to loli? Do you like loli? Are you talking about your own experiences or universally about all people who like loli?
2D > 3D, it's that simple.
Not to mention that loli seldom bares any resemblance to actual kids. It really is just a body type fetish most of the time characterized by small, perky breasts or flat chests, small bodies, cute faces, ect.
There are many different kinds of loli, however, so it all kind of gets lumped together. There's shit that's basically just CP for pedos who don't want to go to jail, there's fucked up shit like toddlercon, but most of it just seems to be an erotic celebration of certain bodytypes, but it all falls under the same category.
I find it kind of short sighted to lump everyone who enjoys loli art in with pedophiles who are attracted to real, pre-pubescent children. I don't usually find this to be the case. In fact, in my experience, people who love 2D erotica to begin with tend to find real children gross and annoying, and the furthest thing from attractive.
The fantasy is what turns them on, and the fantasy is fueled by what the art presents to them. You can make anything seem appealing if you present it well enough through your art. Why do you think so many women find rape fantasy so hot? Do you think they'd enjoy a real, brutal rape?
>people are always swayed by media, and cannot make decisions of their own
>"video games can cause violence"
Try again. I don't even like loli, I just think your argument is finger painting compared to the Sistine Chapel that you replied to.
if you can find the artist, you can probably find his blog, which will probably lead you to links to a storefront or something
the biggest problem would be importing it unless it's available digitally, which i doubt
the rock and roll example isn't tied to anything sexual. my desire to search for new and better fetish material is pretty strong (non pedo here). the sexual aspect, and sexual frustration, is a big factor and can hold a lot of sway over what a person does. in this way it's not really comparable.
i can imagine it's the same with loli.
pedos should just be castrated really.
It's always bizarre for me to see someone who doesn't know a certain thing about Pokemon.
Even if there's over 700 by now. When I hear "Rotom", I think "Rotom-W", and subsequently "death".
2D is simply idealism which is why it will always beat out 3D.
It's a webcomic, so I don't think so. I'd would also love to buy it somewhere as well.
Also, why do cats sleep on their owners clothes? My cats do that shit all the time.
I'd rather compare it to the logic that marijuana has a potential risk of introducing you to heavier, dangerous drugs.
I think arguments like videogames-->violence or rock-->satanism are retarded; it's a gradual thing. Perhaps you will hang out on some loli-friendly forum and exchange thoughts. we've seen some people go as far as to meet IRL for loli-meets. from there I believe it can slowly evolve
You can't control that sort of thing. What you're talking about applies to pretty much all art depicting anything, and it's more dangerous to stifle people's creations for fear of the ideas it'll put in people's heads than to try and stifle said ideas.
Would you blame id Software for the Columbine massacre? I wouldn't. Those kids flat out said that Doom inspired them, and I still wouldn't have blamed id or banned the game.
The ideas will always exist, and they'll always show up in people's art. That's what art is. To try and bury a concept, to pretend it doesn't exist, to taboo it, really just hurts everyone, and doesn't work at all in terms of making society safer. I'm sure there are plenty of pedophiles who love loli. However that doesn't mean that loli should be penalized or that those men are doing anything wrong by liking it. Punish people for the harm they cause, not for what urges they find in themselves. Punishing people for ideas is not okay.
he said 'can' not that it's a given.
Just take a look at a really pretty faced blonde girl that resembles an anime character you fap to. If you absolutely feel no magnetism than you are consistent with what you say.
I'd become a warrior and slay the shit of those monsters. That shot is the worst thing ever.
What you don't know WILL hurt you. Fuck whoever came up with that nonsense. It was probably some idiot woman ignoring the oil light in her car.
It's also sort of insulting to flat chested small girls to always equate those traits with children. A lot of real women with those traits are fucking qts. My government tried to make everything in porn below a C cup illegal, and that's ridiculous. Small titties often have better form than big floppy bags of fat. That's my opinion; and I'm a 20 year old, relatively normal, sexually active person with no pedophilic tendencies or habits (that I'm aware of lmao.)
Most people consider a lot of the chibi style lolicon as well. Explaining to my normalfag friends why I play Harvest Moon or Rune Factory can be painful. I just like their cute faces, it has nothing to do with age, or even sex, I just find the art style very pleasing to the eye. They're just cute. I like it. I shouldn't have to explain it any further than that.
That part about fantasy is spot on.
I like you.
>that example doesn't count because it doesn't fit my opinion
>everyone's sexuality is the same as mine
>pedos should be castrated
Bro, they can't help it.
>inb4 ur a ped0!!11!
I'm just saying, you wouldn't really say it to a hetero, or a homo, or anyone else that has 0 control over their sexuality.
You need to try harder.
She suffers from cognitive dissonance and denial.
Why would it be anybody's business what I pleasure myself to? Art is protected whether or not I hate it, love it, or created it. Destroying or attempting to ban it would be wrong no matter if my relationship to it was any of those three.
If you want to defend art in general, you end up having to defend the nastiest, most stigmatized parts of it. It's the same with criminal justice; if you want justice for all, you have to ensure that even the nastiest pieces of shit have the fairest, surest day in court as the upstanding guy who made a mistake.
His argument's (predetermined) conclusion is that someone who otherwise wouldn't have harmed a child will harm a child due to exposure to a drawing. That is absurd.
"Magnetism" and "gradual change" don't enter into it. It's a binary proposition: are you willing to hurt a child? Yes or no?
Someone who answers yes to that question or doesn't believe pedophilia is harmful is dangerous regardless of whether lolicon exists, and someone who answers no is not.
Is that why they aren't happy at all? I stuck giant robots and didn't care much for anything else.
Everyone else seems to desperately find something to get social points and not feel like an outcast or something. Why is this a thing?
Pedos tend to give gifts to the loli for their deed, either to make them feel comfortable or as an excuse for what they did to them. Pedos also have the lowest amount of psychopathy ratings compared to psychopaths, showing that they actually do have empathy and recognize that their actions are bad.
>Check it online
Oh I hate this shit.
>are you willing to hurt a child? Yes or no?
does this mean I'm dangerous?
You gonna storytime the whole thing? I had no idea there was another technopriest book.
This is actually a great analogy for people struggling with addiction to pornography.
>I hate this shit
Pffft, that's nothing. It updates 2-4 pages every 3-4 months.
At least it's still consistently good.
Undertale is the New Game You Have To Like Or You Don’t Get It. These sanctified vessels are selected by an organization that is either lofty or subterranean,
I haven’t decided, and one of the cool things about being old is that I don’t care.
These hyper-earnest teens I got on my block are way into this stuff. I’m glad that someone is teaching them new words. But I can sense a kind of invisible maze go up when they start this conversation - they want to know if I can be trusted. If I’m like the others.
They want to know if they can tell me the secret, and they will, provided I already know it. So I lied. I lied and lied and lied.
>Finally found out what its called Itt after seeing the odd page posted now and then
>Mfw it's not completed/translated or something
This is why I wait for this sort of shit to be completed, I can't handle even the littlest bit suspense if its over a few days, and the page they've stopped on is actually going to kill me.
Also why do people think gays are totally normal but pedos are freaks against nature? Wouldn't they pretty much be in the same boat from a mental point of view
There is a popular mode now I have taken to calling Double Reverse Irony, where things are real but not real but no they’re actually real, that is just one step beyond where I’m interested.
My policy when the next generation “does them” is informed by 2pac’s I Ain’t Mad At Cha, and I only get mad when people transform works into litmus tests. In the case of Undertale, I can’t abstract it enough to even look at it: I can’t hold it far enough away. The thing it is dismantling is too close to me.
Parody can be revelatory of weakness in the subject, but it can also reveal strength; it can reveal what’s left after the softest parts are washed away. Even when done in love, it has a caustic quality. An extended look at metals extraction probably isn’t appropriate for this paragraph, but I’m thinking about gold cyanidation and toxicity. The game is gleeful in its cannibalism of the medium, there’s blood all over its face but it’s smiling.
It’s intimate with the tropes it has on display, and at this precise moment in time I’m discomfited by what it does with that familiarity.
It is insufficiently reverent, and does not perform the proper obeisances. Others like it for precisely these reasons.
I’m delighted by the iconoclasm intellectually and repulsed by it viscerally; if nothing else, it’s providing an intense psychological workout.
To a certain extent, having sex with a child is seen as rape whereas sex with two consenting adults, even if most people can't rationalize two men having sex, is more accepted.
>my desire to search for new and better fetish material is pretty strong
Are you saying it's not the same way with violent media, where things like horror movies seem to become more and more graphic while stuff from 10 years ago is seen as silly and campy.
'Selective' Amnesia, also known as denial of reality.
Mentally yes. But an adult man can consent to sex and a child cannot. That's where the difference is.
A gay man acting on his urges with another gay man is fine. A pedo acting on his urges is a rapist.
What if the monsters were never real and the shots were given out by the government to make the people hallucinate about monsters as a way to keep them in check and under control?
People still view 4chan as this mystical place of corruption and fear.