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>>322709485
>yfw Jack didn't learn anything from John's mistakes and went down the same road

baka
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>>322709485
My cousin borrowed my game and that was 3 years ago. I'll never get it back.
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Sequel fucking when?
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>tfw couldnt let go and took revenge by killing his entire family along with him
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>>322709998
I killed his wife and his pal at the river
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>>322710182
That be deep mane.
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>>322709485
It felt so weird playing a rockstar game with believable characters.
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WORK YA DAMN NAG
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>tfw no sequel (or prequel?)
>no wild west games coming out at all
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>kill his wife
>shoot the gun out of his hand
>walk away
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>>322709660
Sure brings a dent to the "Redemption" thing eh?
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>yfw RDR, Max Payne 3 and GTA V were all Top 10 games of last gen

why is Rockstar so fucking based?
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best late title card in a game ever.
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So, wait a minute. I didn't play that far, but there was a discussion I always thought was interesting.

Who was the Man in Black? I've heard theories that he was a government agent, but also that he's Death.
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>>322710938
Only MP3 desu, GTAV wasnt that good and RDR is highly overrated but can at least scrape by at 10 or 9.
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>>322710326
and the social commentary was actual wise observations rather than childish unsubtle jabs
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>>322710969
Seemed like a man of wealth and taste to me.
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>>322709998
I spared them.
No sense punishing them for his dickitude.
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>>322709485
Forget about another Red Dead game being announced at E3 Rockstar are bringing Agent out of vaporware status instead
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>>322710326
Probably because it was made by a different dev team.
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best song incoming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg-yC0xcI9s&list=PL880D572DF1EA418B&index=9

>>322709915
hopefully never, one of RDR's main themes was the world was catching up to John and there wasn't room for outlaws and the "Wild West" anymore. RDR already had trains, a city and fully automatic machine guns. Can't imagine them going much further in time.
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>>322710938
only studio that's been able to keep up with rapidly increasing development costs and has the will to do it

they develop with the same design ideology as the golden age, on a modern scale
other studios fold or sacrifice other elements
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If i had to fault this game it would be for not giving Jack a proper adult voice actor.

Hunting up in the mountains was the best part of the game.
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>>322710806
Westerns are poison genre in video games. Nobody wants to take the risk (except Rockstar who has a built in fanbase and whoever makes the Call of Juarez games) to put resources into something that might not sell.
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>>322711285
Well, it's better than another GTA I guess. I still want to see what a euphoria Manhunt/Bully would be like though.
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>>322710969
>>322711127
are yall niggas referencing Rolling Stones in this bitch?
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>>322711331
>Can't imagine them going much further in time
Who says they have to?

Redemption wasn't a direct sequel to Revolver, so whatever comes next doesn't have to take place after Redemption.
It also doesn't have to retread the theme of the Old West dying. There are many approaches it can take, and many sources of media to take inspiration from.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think we're going to get another sequel tbqhwyf
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>>322711337
This, really.

Rockstar simply has the sheer capital and time to make high quality games that haven't sacrificed. For all the shade we give MP3, GTA and RDR, they've never ever come close, even remotely within dozens of miles of stooping to something like Fallout 4's shallow and utterly pathetic level of "AAA" development.
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>>322711636
Yes, and it was my honest answer to anon's question.
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>>322710969
I know he's been around for a long, long time.
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>>322711685
eh idk, part of the greatness of RDR was the novelty of playing a great western video game. It would wear off for me personally with a sequel but whatever.
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>>322711293
Every Rockstar team shares development
Also the president of Rockstar Dan Houser was the main writer of all gta games since 3, bully, red dead redemption and max payne 3
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what are some other good western games?

GUN was great despite it being unfinished.
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>>322712136
Sunset Riders
Wild Guns
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PC FUCKING WHEN?
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>>322710969

This character is fucking great, mysterious and sublime
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>>322710806
Hard West just came out. It's like Weird West XCOM.
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>>322711914
Redemption itself is a sequel, m8
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>>322709485
I could never shoot the gun out of his hand in that part.
The only person you're really forced to kill in a duel
>tfw I'll never be able to stuff the barrel of my gun down a defenseless bureaucrat's throat
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>>322710969
Some people think he was the devil, some say god.
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>>322712237
Literally never ever

Something to do with the code being a mess with no notes and would have to be entirely remade.

Which really is a shame.
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>>322712362
Yeah but Revolver a shit
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>>322710969
Pretty sure he's death. I think its the first time you meet him that he refers to a a spot as a 'nice spot' which then turns out to be where [/spoiler] you're buried. [/spoiler]
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>>322712237
When that xbox360 emulator becomes functional.
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>>322712506
It is a shame. Or it was anyways. PS3 emulation is coming along.
I already have the game and undead nightmare for PS3 but mine died. It goes to show what a stupid investment consoles are. You're only limited to so many game and when the generation passes, all the games from generation are gone. If you want to play them again you need to get/hook up a system.
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>>322709660
Except after he took revengeance for his Father's betrayal, he went on to live a civil life and became a writer.
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>>322712053
GtaV was his worst work
Wasted potential
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Bill, I implore you. Think about this.
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>>322712885
>If you want to play them again you need to get/hook up a system.
Get a load of this casual.
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>>322712997
I thought it was great.
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>>322713024
>implores
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>Tfw never ever console

I would have loved to play this game, shame its not on pc
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>>322713024
Wells I implores you to go back and tellem to send someone just a bit more impressive next time
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So do all Rockstar games take place in the same universe?
Kinda like Kojima games?
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>>322713134
Every game released by Rockstar is basically them sending a hate letter to America via interactive entertainment. Shit is getting old.

They need to fucking cut it out with that shit. Yes, we get it, America is flawed.

fucking hell, Dan House has got to be dere dere for this country in secret.
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>>322713315
No, pretty sure max payne 3 didnt take place in gta
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>>322713263
I was regretting my PS3 purchase until I played Red Dead Redemption. Went on to 100% it twice in a row over the course of a couple weeks.
If you can find a good deal on a used console, I'd really recommend it.
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>>322713315
GTA1/3/VC/SA - one universe - also London games
GTA2 - separate
GTA4/5 - HD universe
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>>322712885
>It goes to show what a stupid investment consoles are. You're only limited to so many game and when the generation passes, all the games from generation are gone
It's the same for any media.

Do you know how many films are lost due to only ever being released on VHS? The same goes for beta max, laser disc, and so on and so forth.

It's just the way the world works.
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>>322713458
:^)
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>>322713448
>dere dere
What?

And I know what you mean but all Europeans are like that. They're still not happy that America could exist and then become the leading superpower in no time flat.
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>>322713483
I have an xbox 360 with very little games that i already finished, should i pirate red dick penetration into a virgin cd so i can play it for free?
>>322713587
What
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>tfw riding into Mexico while this was playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IkvAb6THQY
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>>322713928
>I'd really recommend it.
Yes. Do it.
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>>322713574
We're talking about gaming here. Not beta max. You game on PC, and the games are there for eternity. No need for backwards compatibility or different machines. The money is never wasted like it is with consoles which are basically gaming platforms with expiration dates. It's archaic.
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>>322714116
Wasn't your arguement that a console can break down? PCs can do the same. What's to stop you from picking up a cheap used console to play your old games?
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Why the fuck hasn't Rockstar put RDR out on PS4/Xbone/PC yet?

I don't buy that bullshit about too hard. How can it be too hard when they put GTAV out on everything?
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RDR multiplayer was fucking amazing
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>>322714369
I've heard that they're either bringing, or trying to bring, RDR to the Xbone backwards compatibility thing.
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>never ever
It still makes my ass hurt to this day. I played it once on 360 and perfected it, but I never played online or the expansion.
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>>322710847
You're not able to shoot the gun out of his hand, though. You have to kill him.
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>>322714514
That's emulation.
When we finally get a 360 emulator in 20 years it won't count as RDR coming to PC.
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>>322714020

Amazing moment for sure.
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>>322714641
Undead Nightmare is the best DLC ever.
I'm so mad that Rockstar didn't do any crazy story DLC for GTAV. Alien invasion could write itself.
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>>322714020
>tfw my game glitched out and this didn't play my first game
I think it's because I got off the horse you're given, not sure.
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>>322713448
Rockstar is run by european guys
And we hate america
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>>322714862
>I'm so mad that Rockstar didn't do any crazy story DLC for GTAV.
Another source of ass pain. GTAO is literally no fun allowed, but I would absolutely buy single player DLC.
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RDR was the only game that ever lived up to my hype, and I'd think a lot of peoples hype. Everything that was advertised you could do and it worked well. Maybe the only thing that was less than stellar were the gun duels, but that's a realllll small black mark for a lot of feathers in the game's cap.
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>>322712845
That happens the very last time you see him, famalampai
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>>322710806
>>322711519
The genre has no appeal. RDR already did everything it could've possibly done. There's nothing left to do.
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Real best song coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yQjHkoDip0
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>>322712941
This is a cool easter egg.
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>>322715028
>The genre has no appeal
Literally the stupidest post I've ever read
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>>322714020
>>322714762

This was when I realized I was playing something different...
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>>322715162
Nobody but fat old Americans give a shit about the "wild west".
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>>322714982
I know. Are you implying that makes it any less pathetic?
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>>322715028
>RDR already did everything it could've possibly done. There's nothing left to do
There are so many classic western films to take inspiration from.
It's a whole genre, one game doesn't exhaust it.
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>>322714931
Yeah I think that's what causes it, happened to me on my second playthrough luckily enough
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>>322715274
What else is there beyond "desert, guns, shoot guys, hats and horses"?
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>>322715115
Yeah, I thought so too, but Red Dead Redemption is also one of my favorite games ever. Up there with Vice City and San Andreas in terms on Rockstar releases.
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>>322714273
You're talking to someone who's been building PCs since he was 12. PCs don't "break down". Especially not mine. At the worst, a part fails and you just go replace that part because they're readily available and also modular so you could upgrade while replacing. It's not so simple with consoles.

Not to mention that if you want to play an old game, your only option on console is to get a console of that generation and then play the game. On PC if you want to play an old game, not only do you not have to do a damn thing but install it, but you can run that game at higher settings than you did the first time you played it if you upgraded since then, so you get the old game with better performance and nicer graphics.

Until someone wises up and makes consoles with swappable GPU blocks as opposed to killing the entire console and everything on it each gen, they'll never be a good investment.
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>>322715221
Eurocucks everyone. They're like atheists, only instead of having to constantly let everyone know they hate religion, they constantly let everyone know how anally ravaged they are about America.
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>>322715221
Which is why so many of them were made by Italians.
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>>322715221
Yeah totally m80

Not like westerns are a popular film genre, or anything
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>>322715351
>What else is there beyond "cities, guns, shoot guys, cars and hookers"
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>>322715351
RDR managed to find things of substance.

why couldn't they do it again?
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>>322710969
>John fires three shots at him then his gun jams
>One for Abigail
>One for Uncle
>One for Himself
>Last one jams because Jack is spared
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>>322715465
rekt
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>>322715456
What is it about an era of extreme brutality being hoisted up by Americans as some kind of glorious age where morals were more concrete and 'men were men' and such nonsense? No European country glorifies their bloodthirsty past the same way Americans do. Some your states still think they are cowboys too.

>>322715465
As satire / commentary.
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>tfw John ended up making Mexico worse
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>>322714862
There's been a leak and supposedly there's SP DLC coming and you go to Liberty City
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>>322711735
GTA5:
>downgraded euphoria
>dumb af story/characters
>unused assets left and right
>shitty mmo multiplayer
Yep, no sacrifices were made.
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>>322715351
This. This is why there was only ever one western movie. Because what else could you possibly do with the setting?
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>>322715623
>What is it about an era of extreme brutality being hoisted up by Americans as some kind of glorious age where morals were more concrete and 'men were men' and such nonsense?

What the fuck are you talking about?
There have been westerns made since the 1950s you know
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>>322715435
That's a fair point. I suppose I never thought of it that way since I'm not too computer savvy, especially when it comes to building them. I hear it's fairly simple though so I may give it a shot one day.
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>>322711082

>when they're done with me they'll find another monster
>they need to justify their wages
>you can't fight nature, John

Dutch's death is one of my favorite scenes in Vidya. Also, Bonnie's dust kick breaks my heart.
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>>322710969
>Damn you!
>Yes, many have.
Who do you think it is, nigga?
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>>322715793
you're aware the wild west was over and done with before movies were even a thing right?
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>>322709485
bonnie game when?
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>>322714020
>somehow managed to finish this mission at dawn
>song plays with majestic sun rise

man i loved this game
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>>322715545
COULD MOZART STILL BE ALIVE?

Seriously though, I loved everything about that Stranger arc.
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>>322715623
Unfortunately, the second amendment is the one that authorizes and encourages american bloodlust. It states its okay to own a gun, so everyone has to glorify all aspects of gun ownership, especially the violence. The old west is just current gun owners fantasizing about shooting and killing people in a time when it was necessary to your survival, but is only seen as COOL SHIT MAN.
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>tfw RDR was 6 years agon
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>>322712136
Boktai series but specially Boktai 2.
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>>322715937
actually the best waifu
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>>322716073
>6 years ago
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>>322716061
>gif
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>>322714020

If there's one thing Rockstar is great at, it's sound direction and using music to influence atmosphere.

For all that shit GTAV gets for it's radio selections, I think they paint a great picture of southern california life. It's talk radio is pretty weak in comparison to the terror threat levels of awesome we got with IV.
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>>322715623
Westerns don't even need to be set in the West
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>>322713928
>red dick penetration
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>>322715623
Because it was a very unique era and a large part of our history/culture dumbshit.
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>>322716061
what movie
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>>322716240
if I had the movie, I would make you a nice webm. Have a smaller one.
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>>322715623
What are knights, samurai, and vikings?
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>>322710969
I think he was the devil. There are some similarities to a work that Mark Twain was working on around the turn of the century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mysterious_Stranger

Here's a claymation rendition of the story:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpaRouocBes
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Jesus christ, could you be any more of a try hard contrarian faggot.

It's the fucking wild west. It's the closest thing we have to a Greek tragedy. But no, can't even let Americans have that. God I fucking hate Europoors.
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>>322716503
Whom are you quoting?
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>>322715872
Yeah no shit.

Spartacus isn't historically accurate either.
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>>322716482
It's not fucking Satan. Jesus fuck Satan would literally not care about bank robbers shooting out a woman's eye like Marston did.

God I wish people would stop being this retarded. He's either God or Death. Pick one.
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>>322716469
Europeans don't make fetishized fiction out of any of that though. Europeans portray it as simply history. Americans give us garbage like 300 and Vikings.
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>>322715656
In his defense though, he did at least try to talk Reyes out of what he knew he would become before he left.
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>>322710806
>RDR2 will introduce world first playable gay cowboy character

it will be brockback mountain : the game
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>>322716660
Why are you such a limp wristed faggot?
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>>322716061
>>322716393
I straight up skipped the rape scene when I showed this movie to my dad and sister. I'm normally a "let art stand on its own, if the audience is too immature then they don't deserve to witness it" type, but there was no way I was going to sit through that scene with family around. The first time I watched the movie I was high and that rape scene felt like it lasted for years.
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>>322716660
>Europeans don't make fiction out of any of that though

Holy shit. I have seen it. I have seen the most retarded post ever made on 4chan. Europeans have been making fantasy crap about King arthur and his knights errant since time immemorial. Kill yourself you waste of matter.
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>>322716392
Sukiyaki Western Django. Really unique movie made be quentin tarentino's favorite director (he also has a cameo).
Entire cast is Japanese, yet entire movie is in Engrish is thick accents. If the wild west and feudal Japan were combined as a hybrid world, that's what the movie's setting is. Hence the title Sukiyaki Western (play off of Spaghetti Western for western movies made in Italy)
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>>322715623

>No European country glorifies their bloodthirsty past the same way Americans do. Some your states still think they are cowboys too.

Do you even know what a cowboy is ?

Fucking eurocuck faggot.
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>>322716912
Joke's on you, that's not Tarantino that makes a cameo.
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>>322716660
Do you own a top hat and monocle by any chance?
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>>322716660
The entire Arthurian tale as depicted by Thomas Malory was literally to evoke a lost age where Chivalry, honor, loyalty, justice, etc were paramount to a knight, and more importantly, to a man's life and how going back on these concepts were disastrous. Malory lived during the War of Roses and was disgusted with how England was going so that's why he presented an imaginary lost age to shit on what was going on in his own day. So what are you talking about buddy?
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>>322717057
Joke's on me, actually it is.
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>>322715623
>No European country glorifies their bloodthirsty past the same way Americans do
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>>322717057
Kinda weird for someone who looks exactly like him to also have his name.
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>>322715623
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>>322716643

He's god. He's literally god.

>John: "Damn you!"
>Stranger: "Many people have."

Who do many people damn? God.

Also, his prime purpose in the game is to bestow the gift of judgement onto John. He allows him foresight into situations that are about to take place and allows him to take his spot, to influence mankind into either doing good, or not influence them at all and let them do evil.

He even is able to foresee John's death and burial place.

It doesn't get anymore obvious.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yag41F7eCLU
Best song coming through
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This sounds edgy as fuck, but I wish, if you would've killed his wife and (I forget who it was in relation to him), that Jack would've told him about it.
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>>322715623
Please keep crying on an American site everyday though
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>>322715937

To think that there are people that hate the ranch missions.
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>people shitting on the old west genre, saying that no one cares about it

>they probably play games set in feudal japan
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>>322717367
Took one look at the pic you guys are arguing and knew that was the devil. That's old school shit, depicting the devil as a humble looking man in black with a curly moustache.
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>>322717567
I agree with the sentiment of your post but as an aside I find it hilarious that people think Don Draper is someone worth emulating when the entire point of the show (at least at the beginning, I quit watching) was to highlight what a hollow shell of a man he'd become.
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>>322715623
>No European country glorifies their bloodthirsty past the same way Americans do

Kekaroo, dude.
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>>322716482
>I hope my son grows up to be just like you.
>Says this regardless of whether you donate to, or rob the nun.
>Nun tells you god sent John to her.
>John eventually gives his life for his loved ones.
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>>322716643
I offered my evidence. The character fits with Mark Twain's "Mysterious Stranger" character, Twain wrote that story around the same time as RDR is set, and the character being the devil makes sense. I don't see why it would be a completely unrelated character like "death".

>>322717367
>Who do many people damn? God.

I've never heard anyone damn God. Are you referring to when people say "God damn it/you/her/him"? That's a command, telling God to damn someone/something, not damning God himself.
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>>322717440

Superior version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYLpYu2EQxg
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>friend borrows my rdr
>only played the first mission
>doesn't give it back before moving
>stopped talking to him years ago
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>>322714020
>mfw I got off my horse right after the cutscene ended so I could call my own faster horse
> The song started for like 3 seconds then stopped because I had gotten off the horse
>So I didn't get to hear it during my first playthrough and didn't know about it until later.
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>>322715623

Actually the era of Red Dead Redemption (Just before World War 1) was a very prosperous and peaceful time despite what hollywood has shown you you european mudslime. There was significantly less crime and violence compared to now back then. Part of that did have to do with a high gun ownership ratio and the willingness to use them as a deterring force but you wouldn't know that because you live in a cuck country.
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>>322717840
At first I thought he was gonna shoot the horses for some reason.
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>>322717367
>Who do many people damn? God.
No, they invoke God to do the damning.
Have you ever heard people speaking?
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>>322715937

As if any other vidya girl can compare.
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>>322717840
Probably wouldn't be too expensive or hard to find another copy these days. Try amazon or something.
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>>322717440
>>322715105
Strange. These aren't Triggernometry.
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>>322715623
>>322716660
>>322716067
I am truly convinced that the US and USSR fucked Europe so hard in WWII that it warped their minds and turned most of them into giant no fun allowed spineless pussies that would piss their pants if they ever saw a real weapon. We fucked Japan up the same way, and they reacted similarly, but at least they kept most of their nationalism.
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>>322717867
Even the most famous outlaws were a lot less grand than legends make them out to be.

Billy the Kid probably only ever killed about 3 people max. Most outlaws were about the same, and you rarely had towns were the outlaws ran everything and got into bar brawls every night and etc etc etc because nobody sane would want to live under such conditions. And because the penalties for getting caught for cattle rustling, horse and money theft, and murder were all death.
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>>322717567
like that even matters, silly burger
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>>322710969

Can't be death, because there's clearly an element of morality in the Stranger's character, and death is fair and devoid of morals.

He's either God or the Devil, but I'm waaay more inclined to think he's the classic Wild West Devil, especially since he talks about damnation.
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>>322718054

At least sex is viewed a tiny bit more positively there than here state side...Where it's the siniest of sins for whatever reason.
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You eat babies!
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>>322717836
>>322717963

Okay, fair enough. But it's a common phrase and the implication is obvious.

Better yet, take a look at this clip and when listening to the phrases John and the nun say to each other, take it literally:

https://youtu.be/y9L5Jnq5MYs?t=6m1s

>John: "Ain't it the Lord's responsibility to look over his flock? Not mine?"

>Nun: "Yes, but the Lord has brought you to me to help me."
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>>322718248
Best death coming through
>inb4 skellyshit
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>>322718054
Well in the case of Japan it might not have been for the best considering many people in Japan just straight deny that any of the atrocities Japan commited ever happened or they try to downplay them.

Which really isn't a good thing.
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>>322711331
I always thought an RDR style game but set in the Australian outback during colonization could be cool.
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>>322716263
tfw chakra attack
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>>322718425

>Old school Twilight Zone

Mah nigga to the 10th degree.
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>>322718425
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>>322712831
>a

You misspelled "the".
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>>322718336
Maybe Rockstar wanted to write it that way for a reason.
It's basically slapping you in the face that it's God if you're paying attention. Wouldn't be the first time in writing Satan came pretending to be someone else.

That being said however, I still like to believe that TMiB is God.
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>>322718669
Wouldn't it be neato if Rockstar got a crack at an open world, post-apocalyptic game?

But in all seriousness, pretty much their entire work has been great. They have the resources and customer goodwill to keep on doing what they do. Even when EA was looking to snatch them up from 2K, I think they publicly said everyone would leave and start somewhere else.
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>>322716783
>RDR 2
Casual scum
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>>322716660
Europoors are the dumbest motherfuckers ever. I guess you're too stupid to have read the Arthurian legends.
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>>322718336
The Stranger told you where to find someone and told you a little about them. But the choice was yours whether you helped or hurt them. You could encourage the guy to sleep with that girl, or rob the nun.

I could see this argument used to ID the stranger as either God or the Devil really. Either being would offer you these choices to test your own moral compass. I don't think the stranger is "death", and the only evidence for this claim is that the character says "This is a nice spot" while on the spot of your eventual grave. In reality, either God or the devil could know this.
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>>322719014
>rockstar dickriding
Pssh. They're no saints.
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>>322712941
But wouldn't that be a story about the first Red Dead game with the other dude?
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>>322718794
It's a shame that I honestly haven't found an episode I've liked more then the very first. The death one being a close second.

It just had this spectacular atmosphere that the series never really got right again.
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Reminder that
>Obviously in development, we were all PC based and had it running for win32 clients for the entire development.

http://wccftech.com/red-dead-redemption-was-never-meant-to-be-released-on-pc-says-dev/#ixzz3wLkzPseA
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>>322719308
Duuhhh, the first game is the book
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>>322719308
>the other dude
Play the first game you nigger. It's fucking excellent. Way better than Redemption.
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OK serious question to silence the rampaging Eurocuck: if you had the resources to make a brand new western / American frontier game, in any genre of your choosing, based on any movie / book or entirely original, what would it be?
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>>322719308
I suppose it could be. I always just assumed it was a novel about either John's life, or a romanticized version of it.

I've also heard a theory about the Red Dead Redemption that you play is just the book that Jack wrote about his father, again, highly romanticized since John apparently wasn't around all that much. I'm not sure if I like that too much though, and it's just a theory anyway.
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>have two saves where everything that is possible to complete up to their points in the game is completed
>one is John right before his last mission
>one is Jack afterwards

I actually like Jack but he just doesn't compare to John. Probably since he doesn't get the anywhere near the same about of time and development. I think I remember reading that after the game he goes on to fight in World War I. Wouldn't mind a Jack game where he's doing that, but don't call it Red Dead.
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>>322719169
What really makes it ambiguous is no matter whether you do the good or bad thing, the Stranger says he hopes that his son will grow up to be just like you.

So perhaps theres really no definite answer and you are just supposed to decide for yourself who he is based on how you play.
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>>322719626
I don't see a rampaging eurocuck, I see a eurocuck that got btfo half an hour ago and people dogpiling him even though he already got btfo so hard that he's pretending he never said anything in the first place.
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>>322719169
>>322718336
see >>322717802
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>>322718054
That's what happens when all your alpha males die in war
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>>322719379
>rockstar probably has a working PC version just sitting on a hard drive somewhere
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>>322714983
I think my main problem with GTAO is that it was the main focus of the game, the single player campaign feels like an after thought. After you do the story missions there's not really anything to do in it, other than yoga I guess.
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>>322719626
Modern day TPS set in the hellhole that is the australian outback
Most of the game is you shooting harpoon at aboriginals that try to huff your gas.
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>>322719626
I think it would be cool to have a first person open world cowboy game where you basically do whatever you want, whether you start a ranch, raise a gang to raid towns, or join the law and put criminals down.

There would be multiple towns, you could either pick one town and make it your home or just wander around as you like.

You'd have to buy ammo and food and shit, but it wouldn't be like money is ultra scarce, just you gotta find a way to make ends meet.
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>>322719813
I would love it to death if RD: Redemption got a PC port. Would suck my life away in the modding scene.
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>>322719676
>wants to play wild west sequel
>that's set in the front lines of world war 1
I really hate WW fags. Literally the most non sequitor, uncalled for asshats on the planet.
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>>322719192
Apart from the rdr development hell they were pretty cool

>gta3/gtavc/gtasa
>the warriors
>bully
>Rdr
>tbogt/tlad
This lineup is 10/10
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>>322719813
You can emulate it on PC in fifteen to twenty years. Just be patient, like a rock on the beach being gently lapped by the tides of time.
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>>322719813
At this point, even if they did a GTAIV-esqe optimization of it it would probably be pretty playable
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>>322719379
>>322719813
>mfw i'm replaying RDR on ps3 right now and suffering through this console shittiness

i swear the game is at like 15fps the majority of the time

360 version is better though, still shit.

i've played RDR start to finish like two or three times and i've 100%'ed the game, would pay full price for it on pc

>>322720026
360 emulation will probably be publically playable within five years
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>>322720026
actually ps3 emulation is working right now on PC. Needs a bit more work though.
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>>322719676
The one biggest thing I wish RDR had was a NG+ option. Its like, Id like to be able to use all this cool shit for the entire game as John, but a lot of it you can't get until near the end.

You can't even get the Bureau outfit as John since you gotta reach 100% completion.

But by that point you've literally done everything so why even bother with it?
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>>322720017
>banned people from GTAO for having non-cheat mods
>say that the cutscenes in Max Payne 3 are unskippable due to how the game is programmed despite the fact that the player can load the gameplay segments that come after them faster from the main menu
>other shit I'm surely forgetting
Again, they're no saints.
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>>322719676

Fuck you and your retarded WWI fantasy. Keep that shit with Ass Creed and not with Red Dead.
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>>322710969
He's a big guy
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>>322720154
The 360 version can dip pretty low sometimes, but even then RDR is one of my favorite games of all time.
>you will never play RDR in 4k 60fps
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>>322720284
Not like Redemption made any effort to maintain commonality with Revolver anyway.
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>>322709485

Am I the only one that doesn't like the RDR OST that much?

I much rather prefer the OST of Red Dead Revolver which im pretty sure is just a bunch of themes stolen from Luis Bacalov and other Spaghetti Western composers.

If they ever make another Read Dead game I hope they make the soundtrack more old-school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORxEAmWqbVE
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>>322720268
>they're no saints.
If only you knew how true that was
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>>322720424
360 version framerate is less stable but it's generally better than the ps3's, ps3 is almost always low mid 20s.

360 version also has more tearing due to this

just give us a port or atleast a PS4BONE re-release
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honestly the best gen 7 games
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>>322716660
Europeans don't have shit worth making fetishized fiction out of. They had to steal shit form the middle east to do it. For example: Christianity.
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>>322720543
I'd probably buy a pissfor if they did, honestly.
And if they put in a cheat code or some shit so I could play as John after the end, or gave Jack a little touch of story after the end so I would care about him
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>>322720473
You ever notice how it wasn't about the French revolution or a Witcher side story though? You fucking moron?
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>>322714020
you know people knock Rockstar for a lot of things,

but god damn do they do music right
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>>322713448
Honestly wouldn't be so bad if the commentary itself wasn't so fucking juvenile.
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>>322720790
They took a steaming dump on the series once so they might as well do it again.

>You fucking moron?
Question mark?
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>>322720473

Despite keeping a common fucking theme. I didn't realize trench warfare of germany extended to the fucking Oregon Trail.
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>>322719626
Blood Meridian
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>>322721081
>Despite keeping a common fucking theme.
Except only one of the two has an excuse for its hamfisted melodrama.
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>>322720473
Bringing up events that happened in Revolver seems pretty common to me, even if they are just campfire stories you hear the NPCs tell.
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>>322719779
I don't really see which side >>322717802 is arguing for. If that post is claiming the son comment is referring to Jesus, then it's a weird way to say it. Jesus lived thousands of years before the events of RDR, it's anachronistic. The stranger should have said "You're just like my son" or something. It also doesn't make sense for the stranger to be God, and still say the son comment if you robbed the nun. If the stranger is supposed to be the devil, he's just bullshitting, or telling a lie to get John to sympathise with the stranger more because John has a son as well.

>Nun tells you God sent John to her
She wouldn't say that if you robbed her though. If she knew that a third party told you where she was and that she had lots of cash, she'd say the devil sent you.

>John gives his life for his loved ones
Symbolically maybe. If the Army wanted to execute Abigail and Jack they could've done it, but they left once John was dead. I don't really get this point either, are you saying John was like Jesus? That doesn't really make sense with your point about the stranger making the "I hope my son is like you" comment.
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>>322721281
Empty lipservice.
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>>322721010
You know, I sometimes wonder what the point of political commentary in stories is. I mean it never feels like more than a circle jerk about the themes in it.

Especially when its intentionally offensive. Its not like any minds are going to be changed by the commentary in GTA. Those who agree are just gonna nod their heads and those who disagree are either going to ignore it or get mad at it.

But nobody is going to change their minds because of the kind of satire GTA does.

And even if it is just for the people who agree with it, I find that kind of circle jerk type stuff to be obnoxious. Sort of a "I feel superior than others because I agree with this" sort of thing. Even when I agree with it, I just find it to be too holier than thou or something like that.
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>>322720001
>want to play a game that follows a character that happens to premier in a Wild West style game
>but realizes that his story wouldn't be in the Wild West anymore so suggest they change the name to something else
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>>322719813
they will port it when they really need money.
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>>322721428
>nobody is going to change their minds because of the kind of satire GTA does
Not true, I heard that soccer leads to riots on the radio in GTAV, and thought to myself "Maybe soccer isn't so bad"
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>>322721428
>WITNESS THE VAPIDITY OF MODERN SOCIETY
>kay
>NOW GO SHOOT SHIT AND ROB PEOPLE
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>>322721274
>so why not just make it a ww1 game
Was your mother drunk when she was pregnant with you?
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>>322720284
I said that if they made a WWI game starring Jack that it shouldn't be called Red Dead.
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>>322721717
You could still ride horses and go pew pew, it's okay buddy.
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I was a typical leftist metrosexual faggot who wanted Obama to win in 2008 and then I played RDR and turned into a full blown conservative man's man with a gf and actual friends.
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>>322715274
RDR deliberately tried to fit in as many Western tropes as possible. That's why the game fucks it's pacing with the giant mexico segment.
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>>322721963
I can tell you're still a metrosexual faggot because you think we care about you or the things you do.
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>>322721963
>politics
John would be so disappointed
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>>322715224
Yes
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Does anyone still play the multiplayer?
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>>322722138
There's not really anything to do in it.
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>>322722054
I dunno, I always felt Mexico was fine. I enjoyed Mexico a lot even. It felt climatic towards the end.

I felt the pace began to falter when you do the last arc to get dutch.

Namely I felt the doctor arc was pretty pointless since its basically
>Doctor goes out to do research on natives
>Doctor pisses off natives
>Help doctor get out of town

And thats it. I guess its world building for the natives' grievances against the settlers, but still.
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>>322721428
Sort of a "I feel superior than others because I agree with this" sort of thing.
That's exactly what it is, there's no point in even attempting commentary in any video game because it always end up as platitudes and cliches with no rebuttal. It's as if they've inserted a redditor into the game to whisper into you ear at all times.

Juvenile action can be fun, juvenile "commentary" is always fucking cringe worthy. Even most historians/political scientists can't think of anything interesting to say about culture, so makers of fucking video games should stay away from it.
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>>322719615
>Revolver
>better than Redemption

5/10 made me reply and im a bit upset
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>>322721337
I always saw it as regardless of what choice you were going to make, he knows that you're going to give your life to Jack and Abigail.

Also, if I'm remembering correctly, she says God sent you to her before you have the choice of giving her money or robbing her.

And lastly, yeah, they could've killed both Abigail and Jack, but I imagine Ross had a bit more honor than to gun down a woman like he did to John.
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>>322722260
Yeah, Tall Trees felt rushed to me, I did enjoy the Rancher quests though.
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>>322722291
Yeah, the original far surpasses yet another limp rockstar euphoria engine game with horses instead of cars.
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>>322722260
I wish there was more native stuff, especially weapons. All we got was a DLC tomahawk.
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>>322722325
>they could've killed both Abigail and Jack, but I imagine Ross had a bit more honor than to gun down a woman like he did to John.

Or Ross didn't think a woman and a child were any threat to him.
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>>322722447
I thought the post dutch stuff was perfectly fine. It was clearly supposed to be a somewhat extended epilogue where you finally meet and get to know the people you've been spending the whole game trying to save. I have no complaints with that. It was just the dutch arc that bugged me.
>>322722552
You know natives switched from bows to guns basically as soon as they were able to get them right?
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>>322722650
>>322722325
Well regardless of how much he actually believed his ideals, Abigail and Jack especially did nothign to deserve death. Abigail was just the gang prostitute and Jack had nothing to do with their crimes, so killing them would just be pointless.

John just sent them away so they wouldn't be caught in the crossfire I think.
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>>322722291
Revolver was actually the second best western game before redemption ( gun was 1 imo )
We ironically called the next red dead , red dead revolver 2
Old times
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>>322722260
Don't get me wrong, Mexico was great, maybe even the best part of the game. I just feel like it was way too long and not very connected to the main themes, plot threads and characters running through the game.
I totally agree that the Doctor arc was pointless but because it was so relatively short I didn't feel it harmed the games pacing very much.
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>>322722650
>>322722796
Both good points.
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>>322722658
I didn't say I wanted a bunch of natives riding around using bows and arrows and other native weapons terrorizing the white folk like in the movies. Just that I'd like more native weapons to be available to John/Jack. One of the things in RDR was gathering resources and hunting, being able to make arrows out of all that shit you collect would have given you another reason to bother with it. I don't remember that shit being there for any reason other than "Oh, you completed a challenge. You're one step closer to unlocking a costume"
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>>322723096
mexico was worth it for the poncho tbqh
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>>322722076
Got you to reply, didn't I?
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>>322724189
keikaku doori
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>>322717841

this happened to me on numerous occasions
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