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Whats the appeal to this game?
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Whats the appeal to this game?
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The peragus opening tutorial level
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>characters are actually multifaceted and complex unlike the one dimensional cutouts of the first game, even returning characters have much more depth to them
>Story reflects upon the overall lore of the star wars series, shows how the common man suffers while the Jedi and Sith fight over religion, deconstructs the ideals of both sides
>multiple builds are actually viable unlike KOTOR 1 where if you didn't go soldier-guardian you were fucked
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>>322676878
People love the mary sue combat system for some reason.
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>>322677562
i don't think a combat system can be a mary sue but go ahead and degrade the meaning of terms you don't understand anyway
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>>322677562
How does a combat system become mary sue?
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>>322677562
>People love the mary sue combat system for some reason.
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
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>>322677562

Normally I would post a reaction image here but I frankly don't understand what the shit you're talking about
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Kreia + Bao-Dur usual squad best all others a shit
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>>322677562
>it's a reaction pic thread
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>>322676878

The aching feeling that occurs when you finish kotor2 and realize that kotor3 will never come.

Truly the sweetest pain
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>>322678115
Most OP team once Bao goes Jedi
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>>322678306
>4 playthroughs
>never once got atton or bao-dur to wield a lightsaber
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>>322677562
Fucking. Gone.
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>>322676878
I think the new skills, perks, stances and items made the combat much more fun and more builds viable. I also love the fact that you already start as a jedi and no need to hold back your levels, but they fucked it up with 4 companions that can be later turned into jedis without retrospectively gaining powers. I guess none of them would've been adepts anyway, and the perks are more important for combat roles anyway.
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>>322678443
How? All you have to do is use them some and talk to them. You can get all possible Jedi in one run
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
uhhh
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I appreciate the dialog. Unlike a lot of other modern day RPGs you actually have more than two options in conversations. More like Planescape and less like Mass Effect.
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>>322677562
So is this a meme now or are you the same fag that has posted "mary sue combat system" multiple times?
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>>322677562

this desu
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>>322676878
I loved the first kotor, it was a personal 10/10
I just started Kotor 2 and i don't really feel it.
Who the fuck is Kreia?
Who the fuck is the main character?
Why the fuck is ebon hawk in our possesion suddenly?
What happened to Revan?
And for some reason it just doesn't feel Kotor1-ish. No idea why, i prefered the system of "Arrive there, get all the quests, get some supplies and go out into the field" scheme, i'm on Telos right after dealing with the exchange guys and that weird vision btw. Do my questions get answered later on in the game?
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>>322679570
>Who the fuck is Kreia?
>Who the fuck is the main character?
>Why the fuck is ebon hawk in our possesion suddenly?
>What happened to Revan?

PLAY
T
H
E
GAME
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>>322679570

You installed the restoration mod right?
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>>322677562

>mfw I created this meme

I still can't find enjoyment in the game. If I wanted to talk to people and walk in boring corridors, I could of read a book instead of waste away my graphic card
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>>322679570
Holy hell I thought >>322677562 was a stupid post....
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>>322679656
So they actually do answer these questions? Cool, i feel weird because my character behaves like he knows kreia for a long time
>>322679769
Yes, and i think it kinda fucked with my game. When i got to the Ebon Hawk on Peragus SUDDENLY i had to fight sith, no cutscene or anything, and right after that kreia just appeared on the Ebon Hawk, did a cutscene fail to play or something?
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>>322679570
Telos is KOTOR 2's version of Taris/Dantooine. Remember what Taris was like, and how the story didn't branch out until later? Same thing. Game branches out when you leave Telos.
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>>322678774
Bao-dur can be a little tricky, to be fair
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>>322677389
>if you didn't go soldier-guardian you were fucked
You can play whatever the hell you want and get carried by your allies. Just get drain life so you can cheese Malak at the end.
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>>322679773
>how to not take a poster seriously
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>>322679931
But i actually liked Taris, i guess it's just the same shit and i got used to it
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>>322679984
Not really. The only tricky one is bounty hunter woman cause you have to talk to her in a certain spot
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>>322676878

>kotor3
>republic is dying after 2 back to back wars
>sith and Jedi are all dead after kotor2
>you must learn the lost mysteries of the Jedi and rebuild the Jedi Order
>or tell them to fuck off and become a Sith Emperor
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>>322676878
The fact it makes fun of the first game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr81SliHytA&t=143
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>>322677562
This faggot from the other day.
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>tfw you can't throw all your self buffs into one power
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>>322683008

But you literally get this power in kotor2 anon
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>>322676878

memeing all over dudes with your memesaber and memelightning
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>>322683374
tell me about it friend
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>>322683374

pretty sure you have to be either a specific class or actually go lightside to get that power
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>>322677389
>where if you didn't go soldier-guardian you were fucked
You must suck ass at video games.
My first blind playthrough was a soldier-battlemage (whatever it was called, sentinel?) and I had zero problems. The game is piss easy. And I even failed at getting talents because I thought "melee" would contribute towards lightsabres, so I put points into that talent which became utterly useless later on.
I also went with that one-handed talent that gives bit of attack and AC. I'm pretty sure it's a bad talent, but I wanted to RP a Jedi like in the movies, none of that duel wielding stuff.
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Do you recommend I play the first game or just jump straight into 2?
Cause KOTOR 1 is ugly as fuck.
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>>322679570

All those questions are the reason why you play the game dumbass.
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>>322683008
>tfw Force Enlightenment
>tfw only Telos 2 and Malachor to use it on
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>>322683676
play kotor 1, i REALLY recommend it to you, it's FUCKING GREAT
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>>322683676
They're both ugly as fuck.

KOTOR 2's story works on its own, but the game assumes you've played 1 in order to get the most out of it. 1 is the better game anyway, 2 just had the better writing.
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>>322683554

I don't know the name in english but after certain cutscene at 75% of the game if you are Light Sided you are granted with that power.

Dark Side people get Force Crush instead.
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>>322683676

>I don't want to play because bad graphics

You might want to skip these games, you won't appreciate them
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>tfw want to enjoy the game but gets so bored of the combat
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>>322679526
you saw it too anon? I think this is honestly a pretty solid meme. I hope tumblr doesn't take it next week though
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>>322684042
I second this. If you stop being a faggot play 1 then 2 because that's the order they released in.
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How come Kotor 2 got patched up with Steam achievements and all, but not 1?
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>>322684302

Probably the K2 developer files were locked away in a vault somewhere but I doubt that Bioware had the same foresight.
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>>322684302
Some of that has to do with the KOTOR 2 restoration mod
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>>322683676
2 looks pretty much identical. Don't be a fag, you appreciate 2 much more if you play 1 first
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>>322679906
Did you not pay attention to what happened when the Harbinger arrived? It was infested with Sith - you fought them through the corridors of that ship. They came for you in the first place.

Did you not notice that?

Did you not see the cutscene where Sion disarms Kreia?
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I actually thought Peragus was good.

But really, it's all about the characters and the cool Star Wars shit.
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Can you play any build in this game? I want to start it up and play a melee build with a single saber or maybe dual wield. I heard if you want to go melee you should use a polearm saber but i hate those things, i just want to be a swordsman.

How fucked will i be?
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>>322685348
By disarms you mean cuts her arm? Yeah, i saw that, but i thought kreia was holding them off or something, i entered the Ebon Hawk and suddenly there's shittons of sith around us
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>>322685441
in 2? Whoever told you that is lying, this game vastly favors 2 weapon builds due to both being able to be augmented, leading to silly combinations of OP. But you can be anything you like and still be fine so long as you can actually fight.
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>>322685441
The game's piss easy. Any build will work

>>322685541
There's meant to be a segment where you shoot at them with a turret. Any you don't kill in that section make it onto the Ebon Hawk for you to fight
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>>322685441
The game is easy enough you can do pretty much anything and still find a way to win, even on the hardest difficulties. However, 2-saber melee for weapons or Force Storm for Force powers are the most OP builds in the game.
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>>322685541

Try paying attention next time, pleb
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>>322685441
Not fucked. You can build a very strong saber. Between that and abilities you'll be fine.
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>>322685441
In KOTOR 2 you can. Training with Handmaiden gives you access to the skills for unarmed combat, I think.

You can play any build in KOTOR 2 and it will end up OP as fuck by about level 20. Not using a lightsaber would restrict you from being able to use the OP as fuck crystal that you find on Dantooine, though, that levels with you.

>>322685541
She did, that's why you had the time to get to the Hawk at all. While you were doing the turret-shooting minigame she sneaks aboard, but that isn't shown in a cutscene.
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It appeals to shit tasters
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>>322685729
I killed them all in the turret section, what i meant was that i entered the Ebon Hawk, got the prompt about leaving Peragus for good, screen blacked out and suddenly i'm shooting at sith all around the Ebon Hawk, i found it confusing
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>>322685902
There should've been a mini-cutscene where someone says something about incoming Sith and deploying the turret to shoot them.
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Kind of want to dig out my Xbox huge and replay on it for extra nostalgia.
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>>322685902
that's new, haven't heard of that before
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Seeing Avellone's self-insert bitch about Star Wars and The Force.
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WHO CARES IT ISN'T CANON ANYMORE!
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>>322677562
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>>322686006
>>322686023
Yeah, my first thought was that some cutscene failed to play
I just hope i don't run into anything like this later
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>>322677562
This. Ya'll mad because NINTENDRONES BTFO
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>>322677562

It's just as funny as it was yesterday.
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>>322679570
The fact Kotor 2 makes you ask so many tugging questions is precisely why it's a good game.
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>>322677562
this buzzword has broken us.
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>>322676878
Jedi Jesus.
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>>322679773
thought you were baiting, but then i read the rest of the post. it must be you, no one else could be this stupid
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>>322686147
& it still sells despite that.
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Jumping into the pit is a good idea. Get to ground faster that way.
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>>322685652
>>322685729
>>322685768
>>322685778
>>322685809
Thanks guys. Yes i was talking about KOTOR2. Glad to know i can go melee with dual wielding and not have problems, seems fun. Obviously i won't ignore force powers so i should be fine.
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>>322686147
>Bioware and Bethesda make bretty cool game
>Obsidian blows them the fuck out with a sequel
>Original devs get butthurt and pretend it doesn't exist
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what's the point of swoop racing, why didn't they just use pod racing
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>>322676878
kreia
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>>322687247
>pods
>old republic
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>>322687247

It took many thousand more years before pod technology was perfected anon
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>you're shoved with Bastila the entire game
>you even get to tease her and play around with her feelings
>you even get to kiss her and canonically make babbys with her

>you now have a choice between a shitty tomboy or a blind puppy kicked on the side
>you don't get to tease them although they fight over you in at least two cutscenes
>you don't fuck the shitty tomboy or have mindsex with the blind one before starting the last arc of the game
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>>322685423
Yeah Peragus is good. Offered a good start and a few roleplaying options to get you into the game
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>>322687726
>you don't fuck the shitty tomboy or have mindsex with the blind one before starting the last arc of the game
Yes you do
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>>322685423
Especially the first time through
>dat sense of mystery
>talking to that asshole droid
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>>322683676
So what's good about KOTOR 1 because I've been playing it for five hours straight and I just started the jedi training and so far it's really average.
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>>322677562
wew lad
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>>322677030
Is this a joke? Serious question. I just bought the game for $2 and the entire tutorial/prologue was insufferable. I can't imagine that being the highlight of the game for some people.
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>>322689000
The first time through is pretty neat

Telos is the real killer
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>>322689000
Checked

Also I don't understand what's so horrible about it

>>322689198
Telos is one of the slower parts but it can be blazed right through if you're familiar with it
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>>322689439
I especially dislike the hidden Czerko based in the Telos Restoration Zone.
>that twi'lek escort quest
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>>322690095
I think I've only completed that quest once over countless playthroughs
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>>322688594
After you get off dantooine it gets reaaal good
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>There is a world on the outer rim surrounded by Mass Shadows. To walk on the surface is like being buried alive until it seems you'll never breathe again. What manner of creature would have birthed such a thing?
Nothing human to be sure.
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>>322690095
God but I need that influence from Bao Dur, so I do it, every fucking time
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>>322690095
>mfw the AI pathfinding
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>>322690095
That area in general is why i just do the skip mod. I can deal with everything before that np, but that whole area can fuck off
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>>322690095
Why? You don't have to do anything extra. Just go through it like you normally would
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Completely forgot to get Influence with HK-47 my last run, I was so confused when I didn't do the Factory. Thank god that it didn't fuck up the ending too much.
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>>322688071
It's more than that, it's the actual buildup until his reveal. You get that something huge happened, everyone is dead, everyone but you. You know some shit went on as you explore the base, watch holotapes of people all unable to figure it out. And then *he* shows up and EVERYTHING clicks. You know immediately he's responsible for everything somehow, because he's an HK, even though he's not the same.

Kotor 2 actually showed HK assassin droid to be more action than talk, even though they talk a lot. The Peragus facility showed how effective a single one was in achieving its goals and fucking with everyone.
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I want to do dark side but i'm such an empathetic fag :'(
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>>322691121
No, you have to escort him back to the entrance.
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The appeal is to play another Obsidian Bugfest

My game keeps crashing in Visquis' hideout right as I'm about to enter the arena and gut the motherfucker

And I have the fucking restoration mod
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>>322691121
>Bao dies nearly every encounter
>nothing on the planet to do except go through waves and waves of mooks with a couple annoying minefield areas
>Soon as you enter the base its even more waves of mooks, now with annoying poison gas/breaking silly forcefields
>to end it all you have an annoying npc to escort back if you want influence, with his shitty as fuck pathing, all the way back to the very start of the base.

There is absolutely nothing good about that area
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>>322691396
So?
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>>322676878
Kriea's lectures makes the game for me.
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>>322691598
His pathfinding is atrocious
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>>322691598
it's shit
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>>322691656
It's Sion's that get me off
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>>322691487
It detects your shit taste
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Is KOTOR 2 worth checking out if you haven't seen Star Wars?
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>>322691848
Yeah the writing is good enough to let it stand by itself. Definitely helps to know how the setting works and stuff though
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>>322691848
who the fuck hasn't seen star wars. anyway fuck no, the entire story relies on your knowledge of jedi and sith and then turns your conceptions of them completely onto its head
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>>322691751
He just makes me want some Guiness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3JEORDUEqc
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>>322677562
what in the fuck are you talking about you dumb nigger
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
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>>322677562
W-How?
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>>322691710
>>322691580
I just never found it that bad

>>322691731
Good one
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>>322692364
Reverberate it a little bit and it's him
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>>322693087
Its more that it gets annoying after the 2nd or 3rd run, and unlike paragus or even telos, theres no real way to make it enjoyable.
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>>322691751
>You are a wretched thing
chills every time man
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
>mary sue
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
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>>322689439
>Also I don't understand what's so horrible about it


The first time there can be pretty tricky. You have to do the things in a certain order and remember the places and the names of the people of the Station. Once you have it it's easy but man the first time you can find yourself running around searching for THAT npc you don't remember where it was.
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>>322676878
A refreshing perspective on the Star Wars universe, a more somber tone, competent writing, improved gameplay and UI over the first Kotor. Kreia is a great character also, though she's kind of a 'you either love her or hate her' ordeal.
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>you can only get Mira as a light side or Neutral side Jedi
>You get a dumb fucking Wookie as a dark side Jedi
>To corrupt Mira you have to pretend to be neutral for the beginning of the game
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>>322695790
I don't personally agree with any of this. There are very few NPCs at all, much less any you really need to remember
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>>322696458
It's really fucking easy to get enough dark side points if you do Nar Shadaa first.
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>>322696554

Ah sorry, It's late here and I read Taris instead of Telos.
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>>322696458
Kriea keeps the wookie alive to hunt Mira. Why does she immediately hate Mira so much as to have her murdered?
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>>322681305
>not having the superior HK47 meme image
Try harder next time senpai

I agree with your comment though
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>>322696938

She knows Mira is one of the Lost Jedi and that's her test. If she can deal with him in Malachor V that mean she is ready to be a Jedi and nothing to worry about her past.
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>>322697526
Ah ok I never really understood her motivation behind that. Makes sense I guess
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>>322697832

Also she has a line like "Now I will never be afraid, I don't have to run anymore"


KOTOR2 is one of those "2deep4u" games lol. I love it.
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>>322698167
Ironically that's why people hate it too. Cause it tries to do that at times
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>don't find a jedi robe in the Peragus dorms
Should I reload until I do or try to find one on the Harbinger?

I did find Durasteel Heavy Armor and a Military Suit.
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>>322698715
I usually just roll with what the game gives me, soon as you hi telos you can start buying shit anyway if it didnt work out for you.
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>>322686230
What happened to her channel?
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>>322676878
I found the first one to be more appealing, felt like there was more exploration.

I loved the playable story more in the 2nd one and the fact that they added the workshop to it gives me hope that someone will start adding more content instead of just reskins.
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>>322699403
She literally made a JOI video and then her channel was taken down.

Not kidding you. Some of us are still trying to find a copy of it.
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>>322677562
So is "mary sue" the "cuck" of 2016?
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>>322676878
Is there any star wars game that has the same combat system as the EP 3 game?
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>>322700147
Please respond
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>Playing KOTOR 1 on a smartphone

good thing I pirated it, moving around is such a pain
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>>322700147
Jedi Knight 2 and Jedi Academy?
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>>322702295
Never played those two, actually never played any of the older games besides empire at war and battlefront 1. I just remember having found memories of the EP3 combat.
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>>322676878
>Whats the appeal to this game?
It's more Kotor. The problem is it's also worse.
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>>322702802

JA is well worth it
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>>322676878
Reminder that KOTOR2cucks parrot the opinions of Thunderf00t, Errant signal, and ADoseofBuckley
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>>322702802
>>322703307
JO and JA both gave us the best saber combat we've yet to recieve. If you just want some online combat, get the Movie Battles II mod for JA. That shit is fun and has more player now than ever.
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>>322702802
Out of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, Jedi Academy is probably the one closest to what you want, but even then it's not really all that close. Maybe Force Unleashed?
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>>322704308
>ADoseofBuckley
People still take him seriously?
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>>322700147
Force Unleashed is probably about as close as you can get. Surprisingly there aren't that many hack-and-slash Star Wars games.
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>>322676878
It's a sequel to a far superior game.
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Is there a guide on maxing influence early on? I can never seem to get Atton to open up, Bao-Dur either.
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>>322676878

Fuck it, starting a new game. How should I build my Consular /v/?
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>>322686147
none of the EU was ever at any point canon friend
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>>322706301
Consular is easy mode. All dat force powah.
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>>322706301
Wisdom, Charisma, Force Storm, Death Field, in that order of priority.
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>>322706659
Who even cares? Just Force Wave all day every day
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Because of the excellent story and cool gameplay.
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>>322706802
>who cares
You get more force points for the Force Wave, my young padawan.
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>>322707052
Nigga even as a scrawny bitch ass Consular/Master with no strength and shit I never used more than two force waves and meleeing shit to death.
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>>322706301

The only way anon.
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>>322706301

Dumping more Aimo.
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>>322707340
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>>322707439
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>>322707547
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Why is being evil so hard in this game? Every evil response is so embarrassingly edgelord
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>>322676878
Did anyone else feel like Nihilus was underutilized? He at least looks like he has all the makings to be some kind of titular badass, and he's on the cover all big, imposing and shit. It's been a while since I played, but I seem to only remember him like a handful of times, and none of it felt really meaningful or left and impact for him. And the whole "Devouring planets" thing did kind of make me roll my eyes.

I forget why he sounds like a clogging drain pipe though. Guess i'll replay and see if my impression of him changes any, have wanted to replay the game anyway.
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>>322708579
from my understanding he doesn't have a physical form, so i imagine being a spooky sith ghost does wonders for your throat
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>>322708579
All I know is the mask dialog option made my dick hard as diamonds
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>>322708579
>>322708579

Nihilus was everything you said...the only problem was that the Exile was his hard counter.
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>>322708579
>>322708739

He's definitely played us as the big villain but that's mostly to hide Kreia.

Although when you actually fight him, you realize that he's not really a person any more, just a galactic vacuum.

You're only able to beat him because Kreia lured him to Telos and there was no Jedi Academy and not much of a population to snack on either.
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>>322708579
>>322708739
Oh wow ok, I only just realized that he doesn't actually have a jaw? That's pneet.
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>>322708579
that was deliberate, he's meant to be the epitome of force dependency
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>>322708485

It's hilarious. You just threaten to kill your own party members at the drop of a hat.
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>beat the game as a true neutral
>game glitches out and speeds through all the dialogue
I can't say I've ever been so mad, thought it was just stuff added back in from the restoration mod but now I see I was mistaken after reading this thread.
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>>322680514
b-but muh lore
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I just wish Kreia had a lesser role or was able to turn good.

She has this fedoracore attitude about being some enlightened, neutral Jedi/Sith when she failed having padawans
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>>322709676
>was able to turn good
she was good
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>>322709521

Happens to me every couple hours on a Windows 10 installation, you just have to quit and boot the game again
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>>322709738
I mean being a bit less of a sourpuss.
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>>322709842
defeats the power of the game
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>>322709676

She's literally Anti-Force, not anti Jedi or anti Sith.

In the Star Wars universe, that makes you a fedora.
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>>322677389
>implying I didn't make it through taris with a level 2 scoundrel
jedi consular
+2 defense / +damage on crit strikes/attacking from behind with dual weapons knight speed flurry
No way a soldier/guardian would come close to the damage that build would dish out
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>>322709936
I'm not exactly sure what that build accomplishes that a Guardian couldn't also accomplish. Obviously Scoundrel/Guardian instead of Soldier, but Counselor implies you're spamming Force powers instead of dual-weapon knight speed flurry.
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>>322710242
scoundrel guardian is a terrible idea guy, the force jump and low hit points will get you eaten alive. consular gets force immunity and is basically the same thing except you get like 2 less feats.
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>>322709936
I was a soldier-consular.

Best build.
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>>322677562

Thanks for the laugh Taft
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>>322709891
I wanted the ability to break her a bit you can tell she was the writers inserting themselves into the story
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Anyone know how to best max influence early on?
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>>322710670
soldiers are alright they were my first choice when i played but a lot of the skills are not that useful like heavy armor, scouts get implant and flurry so they're a solid choice.
scoundrel if you're a consular im trying a darkside playthrough should be the best mix of damage from weapons and force. light side works but crit bonus only works on stun and backstab so you gotta be a team player with some of your lackeys.
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I'd literally kill a man for remake of both KOTOR 1 and 2. No seriously. If they let me serve my life sentence with a console or PC that just had a full blown remake of KOTOR 1 and 2 on it, I would gladly murder another human being.

The problem with the KOTORs at this point is the fucking combat. It so goddamned atrocious that the only reason to still play it to this day is for the story, dialogue options, and characters. Hell, I don't even think I liked the combat when the game first released.
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>>322690095
You can actually escort that fucker? I always thought you finished his quest by just getting to the shuttle.

Really makes it funny in hindsight. Poor guy is scared out of his mind, some Jedi promises to help him out of there, drags him the opposite way of the exit, killing a bunch of droids, then promptly fucks off in a shuttle, leaving him to be killed by the HK droids.
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>>322711172
It would be made by modern Bioware, I wouldn't wish something like that on my worst enemy.
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>>322705002
I really hope not, he's stressed enough that he's a comedian you'd think they'd get the point that he might not believe the cynical shit he says.
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>>322711402
Fuck, I keep forgetting that EA owns the license for Star Wars games for the next 10 years. God fucking damnit
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>>322711041
Depends on who with. Some characters like Disciple can be maxed just through their initial dialogue options.
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>>322711402
Yeah, if bioware remade KOTOR I & II I'd probably kill a man.
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>>322709141
He tried to eat a world that got BTFO, like 80% of it is radioactive crator we only see the restoration project bit and the space station

Nihilous got rused so hard he ate his own power like a body cannibalizing its own muscles when it has no food
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>>322709928
That is a ridiculous idea. Anti Force? Wut
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>Want to play Sith Lords
>Don't wanna play through Bioshit Revan 1
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>>322712354
She hates the fact that the Force influences everyone. She hates that people who use the force end up being weaker because they avoid their problems with the help of the force instead of facing them head on.
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>>322711968

They kind of imply that Nihilus didnt really think about the long term consequences. Sure, he'd be the strongest but what happens when you eat the human part of you in the process? Then you just cruise the galaxy like a big shark and eventually starve to death.
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>two THOUSAND years before the movies
>they're still using lightsabers
>they're still using blasters
>they're still using ships that shoot turbo lasers
>they're still using droids

does technology not advance in star wars?
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>>322712529
Ridiculous from get go. Does she resent bipedal beings for walking upright?
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>>322687901
You don't kiss nor fuck Visas or Brianna bruh
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>>322712782
That bugs me too. And yet in the 20 or so between Clone Wars and New Hope, technology makes a huge fucking leap.
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>>322712529
This is why I never liked Kreia. She's literally the Star Wars equivalent to a fedora tipper. That and she's like those people you say "God bless you" to, who end up responding

>UGH, I am an Atheist!
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>torrent kotor 2 on old pc
>upgrade from xp to win 7
>move kotor 2 save to shitty usb uni gave me to be extra safe
>boot up game on win 7 and plug in usb
>mfw usb got corrupted somehow and I lost all my work and my beloved kotor 2 save

I got so fucking far into the game I honestly dread the thought of going back to play it again from the beginning.
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>>322713829

Only thing I dislike about her is when she bugs out and bitches about random acts of violence when I didn't even do anything.
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>>322677562
Stop trying to make a new Artificial Difficulty
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>>322714218

There's a skip Pergaus mod that gives you a light saber from Telos if that interests you.

I sold the light saber cause I'm loser
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>>322678443
Atton's is bullshit because you have to exhaust all the dialogue with all the Handmaidens.

Bao-Dur's I think is honestly fucking random.
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>>322677562
>mary sue combat system
2016 people.
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>>322712782
From what I understand not really.
Very few things advanced a lot, one of them being droids and their capabilities.
On one hand it's understandable as the galaxy seems to be constantly thrown in a dark age because the Sith stop backstabing each other for 5 minutes and launch another goddamn war on the Republic and fuck shit up everywhere.

They can't even fund research because all the money they ever have go to recovery from the war. The moment they are close to finishing the Sith just attack again and again and again and since the damage they do is on planetary scale and can completely fuck up a planet for hundreds of years it's not surprising how crippled the Republic becomes after a war. A farming planet that provides food for 10 other planets just losses 99% of it's production capacity for a few decades? Well that fucks up all the planets tat were relying on the first planet, which affects all the other planets since they have to divert some of their food and so on.

The moment the Sith start doing the whole rule of two things stat actually advancing since no longer would you have to deal with millions of lightsaber wielding little shits that go and wreck hundreds of planets.
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>>322714537
What? I'm pretty sure you can talk to any of them and as long as one of them mentions his Echani training you're good to go.
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>>322712862
>>322713829
Actually look at the history of the Star Wars galaxy and it's pretty easy to sympathise with her viewpoint. So much of it is a chaotic Jedi vs Sith affair with people dying by the billions all due to some hazy destiny laid out by the Force. She's not really an atheist, so much as she's living an atheist's worst nightmare. She lives in a universe with empirical proof that God exists and God appears to be a bloodthirsty lunatic.
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>pulling a bindo

I almost died at that choice
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>>322714537
Atton's trigger is the scene at Nar Shadaa with those two Twi'lek who talk about him. The Echani training can lead to an influence boost, which helps speed the process, but isn't necessary.

Bao-Dur is straight influence gain, he just doesn't have much dialogue to get influence from so you need to drag him along and do nice things. Again, Nar Shadaa is really good for that. You can get Atton and Bao-Dur both trained up by the time you leave Nar Shadaa really easily, then it's just a few more levels before you can train up Handmaiden.
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>>322714769
It's not that God is a bloodthirsty lunatic. It's that God doesn't give a shit that two of his churches are incredibly powerful, have a shit load of influence and use said influence to wage constant war with each other
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>>322714451
>There's a skip Pergaus mod

Holy fucking shit, literally the greatest mod in existence.

Thanks anon.
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>>322714717
>They can't even fund research because all the money they ever have go to recovery from the wa
Those are actually the part in history where tech advances the most.
But who fucking care, it's magic it doesn't make sense.
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>>322715936

When you rely on the crutch of space magic you don't care about military advancements. Kreia says some shit about that pretty early on
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>>322715090

It's pretty neat, it even levels you and allows you to pick the major choices in that section.
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>>322709676
>when she failed having padawans
Revan tho.
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>>322712782
Welcome to the fantasy genre.
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>>322715027
But the Force does give a shit, it is always tipping the scales on favor of one side then another forever. It looks more like a really clumsy god

>Oh there's a lack of balance, maybe if I tip the jedi side of the scale I'll...
>Fuck, I overdone it, now the sith side is too light... Maybe if I give them a little nudge it will...
>Shit, I did it again!
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