>classes actually look distinct and unique
Will it be good /v/?
every expansion since cata looks good and then end up being shit once it comes out, but I'm going to buy it and play for a couple weeks or so anyway because at this point I may as well see the content they add
Apart from SoO being so long, MoP was actually good yes.
yeah mop was great, PvP was only the second worst it's ever been now that WoD is out and it had one whole raid that was decent, not to mention having literally nothing to do besides dailies was just awesome
My Demonology Warlock might be fun to play for once.
Shitting on people in PvP is nice, though.
Maybe thematically. From what I've seen, class interdependency, specialized roles etc. are still pretty much completely absent and in a way it distances itself even further from these concepts (for example, raid buffs are meaningless in neo-WoW, but Legion seems to be removing them altogether, which increases the distance to actually having support roles in the game rather than everyone doing the same thing with different animations and resource names).
the warrior class hall is hype as fuck, as well as the method of entry and exit
but that alone can't make up for the game's short-comings, especially how fucking terrible (as in shitty to play, not necessarily weak) the arms warrior spec is
I'm not sure how
>le le le le panda le le XD XD XD
proves your point.
shills shills go away
and stay that way
if blizzard is indeed basic
>S-someone is mean to us pandas!!!
>DEFENSE PANDA FORCE ACTIVATE! MAXIMUM PANDA DEFENSE MODE!!!!!!!!
Reminder that MoP panda faggotry made the coffin and WoD sealed it.
Why do people say MoP is bad? It had shit ton of content and stuff to do, it was the right direction for the game
A lot of different reputations
New and added content consistently apart from SoO
Pvp zone added
Legendary quest that actually took time
Various new mounts
New Class and New Race
New Theme for the whole game
I'm most likely missing a few things, but it's sad that people say the expac was shit simply because of "muh pandas"
Any general on /vg/ is going to encapsulate the absolute worst of a game Anon.
I'm pretty sure /wowg/ has nothing to do with MoP, perhaps you are letting obnoxious fans ruin your view?
>1. Male Human
>2. Male Dwarf
Tryhard PvP nigger detected.
>Classes are already distinct and different.
New Draenei are cancer. I wanted to play a motherfucking "broken". Instead we got blueberry tieflings.
femdwarf, night elf goat blood elves are your main shitposters. you only see the panda ones because your to fucking blinded with your butthurt about "HURF KUNG FO PANDA MY BUTTHURTS AHHH"
Thats you nigger get mad.
>"panda shitposters ruin every thread"
>continues to shitpost about how much he hates said shitposters even though there are none to be seen
doubtful. they had to stop fucking everything they were doing for legion to put flying into wod, if anyones to blame for legion being awful just blame the people who wanted flying.
I'd like HFCs aesthetic more if it didn't overload me with GREEN everywhere.
It had the same drop that Cataclysm did. Nowhere near the 5 mil in 6 months that WoD did.
Well, they have been thematically different since day 1 (and in some ways more so than now or in Legion, with actually unique roles, fluff abilities etc). That has always been one of WoW's strengths.
Specs within the class often haven't been too distinct, though. Warrior specs have been distinct, for example, but what about rogues and hunters? They've always been fairly same-y (wow, I'm using "Mutilate" instead of "Sinister Strike" or "Hemorrhage").
Those pandas sure are panda-ring to the fans, huh anon.
>nobody wanted them
confirmed for not having played WC2/3 and then WoW
pandas were crazy requested for the first three expacs by hardcore fans because Chen was cool as fuck.
then we got playable and an entire content of pandas and realized part of the reason Chen was cool was because he was rare.
It's so people are happy it's getting canned so it can become demon hunter mechanics.
That being said, new demo looks hilariously entertaining and like the sound of it more than what current demo is
The game is ruined beyond repair. Unless you enjoy being a fucking special snowflake in a world full of 5 million other special snowflakes.
Unless you enjoy toned down content. Where raiding is the only thing to strive for. Where world content is non-existent. Where no one understands RPGs beyond grinding and working towards new gear. Where no one understands meaningful and fun progression.
Fuck everyone who plays WoW, fuck Blizzard who made WoW, and fuck me for spending money on the game for 8 years.
I can honestly not tell what's in a raid anymore if I don't ask/inspect things. The DkS pallies and warriors all look like they're doing the same thing, there are no specs for rogue, if you play rogue you're just a rogue. I can hardly tell the difference between lock, mage, and shaman.
In fact the only thing I know for sure is in a raid is a shadow priest, and that's only to relentlessly mock them and ask when they're gonna start playing an affliction lock already.
Half the healers hot and aoe and the other half a bubble buddies
Half the classes can must and the other half can brez. And if you just have a normal sized raid team you passively get every buff under the sun.
So nah I can't really tell the difference anymore, it's just a mash of wiggling bodies that wiggle till the boss dies.
>Pre-flying mounts that shit was obnoxious as hell to navigate.
Only if you are a moron
>Where raiding is the only thing to strive for.
I've been doing it for 10 years, won't stop now
If you don't recognize chain lightning, I pity you.
Or stuff like frost orb, chaos bolt, or meteor?
Melees are fucked, I'll agree.
But most ranged are very easily identifiable.
>these new animations
>everything is implemented with the mindset that people don't want to do anything except raid.
Which is fine by me because that's all I want to do. I haven't done PvP since BC and Battle Pets are fucking stupid.
I was all against people being HANDED legendaries via quests(takes away from that awe of seeing them, like TF or sulfuras)
But this just takes the cake, EVERYONE gets a fucking ashbringer!
what were they thinking jesus christ
World of Warcraft: Legion: We Added Animations but Shit the Bed on Gameplay Five Years Ago: The Ability Prune Continues
The people who still play it are thirty to sixty-year-old fuckers with no taste that want to talk about how cool being an older nerd is, they're a decade late to the party and should stick to having social interactions through that once-a-year orgy at their local geek convention.
Their asshole parents were right, they should have tried to make friends in school and tried out some physical activities.
Glad to hear that all the millions of players are finally getting getting that legendary they earned by paying for a game so long past its prime.
>Their asshole parents were right, they should have tried to make friends in school
I guarantee you that 90% of the people that played WoW did so because their friends were playing.
>love fist weapons
>with every class possible, always used two fist weapons
I'm sure there won't be any fist weapons and when there are actually some nobody will take you along to raids because GS 900+ and legendary XP
Gets nice overhaul of all specs
Seems nice so far.
I think destro sucks this time and demonology becomes huge thing thanks to the imp spawn that so far doesn't seem have cap limit.
>Rest of classes.
Not interested of rest.
I bought WoD but quit as soon as I hit max level because I was over garrisons. Is it worth resubbing now to at least see the content before it's made obsolete or is the expansion still garbage?
>get laid nerd
>classes actually look distinct and unique
But that isn't always a good thing, more abilities got pruned and chanced that made some classes lose their appeal.
>Only if you are a moron
but I agree with him
you have to wait most of the time because elevators
none of the city parts have any quirk, thus you don't really know where you are
the map doesn't help, because shops are on several levels
it does have the best music thought
Too bad marksman is forced to not have a pet, it should at least have a build in Lone Wolf passive when you use a pet or something. Not having it at all is just retarded, it should always be an option.
It might not be the best option for a ret paladin but it was still a nice spell for its visual.
>shadow priest no longer has halo
this is what people are bitching about? Not losing fucking DP???
>arcane mage has no healing at all
is this even a change?
>Ret no longer has holy prism
literally never used, Execution is better ST and Hammer was used for other shit
>ele shaman has a 30 yard range
valid complaint. Ranged stacking will be weird
>monk no longer has chi explosion
sorta valid complaint, to my knowledge it was never actually good
>2H build removed
but they integrated the playstyle by changing how Killing Machine procs are used.
>people who bind all their abilities to number keys
They forced you to do daily reputation grinds to get all of the story and to gear yourself. Not only did you have to grind several reputation factions, you had to grind a reputation faction to gain access to the reputation factions.
>you have to work on reputiations to improve your character
yea how horrible that reputations actually reward you for completing them! they should just sell reskinned hippos for 50,000 gold.
Golden Lotus blocking other reps is sorta valid, but they could have lowered the speed at which you complete the other reps to balance out with golden lotus not being a barrier. Plus klaxxi was doable without doing Golden Lotus
>linear as fuck
You didn't even play it. The zone introduction was linear is most cases, but after that you were free to do whatever the fuck you want.
Yrell is the only case of this.
Like it's ever been hard. In vanilla, it was tedious, not difficult. It just takes the least amount of time comparatively.
Yea man youre right I only have multiple max level characters right now because I bought an account, I never ever touched leveling, nope.
Oh wait, you were streamlined into these major quest lines every fucking zone. The first entire level of WoD is a linear questline for the destruction of the portal
>Yrel is the only case of this
no, the mary sue is the PC themself. "Oh champion come with me and thrall to go save the day, oh champion here is a garrison under your command, oh champion you saved everything xdddd"
>it was tedious, not difficult
simply wrong. Tedium was because you had to be careful so you werent fucked in the ass. Now you can pull 15 mobs and just cleave them down without risk of death.
>Tedium was because you had to be careful so you werent fucked in the ass.
Different guy but the the tediousness of Vanilla leveling was the god awful hit chance/abilities most melee classes had. If you even pulled an orange mob you were basically fucked. Leveling a Warrior was a fucking pain in the ass that I'm glad I don't have to do again.
but thats the thing, higher level mobs that are difficult to kill simply dont exist anymore. Elites, never mind regular mobs, rarely exist where you are questing and thus you never risk getting fucked by them.
>Streamlined into major quest lines
I have yet to have a duplicate leveling experience across 8 characters.
Oh, yeah. No disagreement there.
With Garrosh loom yeah, otherwise, no.
>I have yet to have a duplicate leveling experience across 8 characters
Stopped reading right there. Either an Activision-Blizzard marketeer, or just fucking retarded.
Or I'm not insane and purposely don't do the same shit again.
Heirlooms and the garrison XP pot make it so you can skip massive portions.
It just depends on what gear you come into WoD with. Something new since WoD release, heirloom less (and outside of talent AoE CD based abilities) you don't generally have enough tank to do the massive pulls.
You didnt even kill Illidan in BT, you wrathbabby.
You helped Maiev trap him in some demon prison.
And no, WoW will never be good again, because they dont give a fuck anymore.
They dont bother putting out enough content, garrisons are back so any semblance of a world is gone, and the economy is fucked.
Try SoE. Blizzard only continued what was already popular.
Other than that, aside from EVE, not a single mmo has had longevity. Which is odd, considering their design. They all always have crippling bugs, under or overdesigned mechanics, and a fleeting population after the initial surge.
This only applies to the west.
Korean grinders hold a different audience.
>shadow priest no longer has halo
It might be undesired to use as part of your rotation but that's no reason to get rid of it completely.
>arcane mage has no healing at all
Arcane mage had healing on Evocation and Cold Snap.
>Ret no longer has holy prism
It might not be the best option for a ret paladin but it was still a nice spell for its visual.
>ele shaman has a 30 yard range
Maybe it's an option for lower level shamans to have less range but at end game abilities should all have 40yd range.
>monk no longer has chi explosion
It gave an option to a completely new playstyle and make monks like some spell casting hybrid.
>2H build removed
It's all about the visuals, I just want to use one large sword instead of wearing two small ones on the hip.
I want to play marksman and have Chimera Shot while still be able to use a pet when I want to change my play style a bit.
Durumu in LFR was hilarious. So many trash players couldn't figure out that running into the laser was a bad thing.
One other memorable thing about ToT LFR was Megaera and the fact that as tanks, you could intentionally wipe the raid by pointing the heads at the stacking marker, then soloing the boss because of how broken vengeance was. Being a heroic geared prot pally was fun as shit back then.
Everything else is casualized to hell and back, and the best casual shit got removed while the worst casual shit got implemented during WoD. If WoD was the turd, Legion is the turd cut up into nice unique pieces.
alright here we go
CERTIFIED GIRL IN REAL LIFE TIER:
KILL YOURSELF IN REAL LIFE TIER:
>what if we
>what if we took
>all the existing rogue abilities
>and then we
>and then we restricted them into 3 different talent trees
>and then called it NEW content
>there are people who actually bind their modifier keys to alt, shift, and control.
>one hand is expected to hold modifiers, use the direction movement keys, and press the ability keys
>mouse hand does jack shit but forward movement and camera view
Some people are so bad, they do not even notice they are terrible.
I think it will be MUCH better than WoD, anon!
>more interesting and UNIQUE classes
>way better dungoneering
>way better Garrison-like system
>way better crafting
>great UI changes
>more interesting story and lore
I think I'm going to give the Starter Edition a try (almost certainly not subbing but hey might as well give the game a shot); I've settled on Draenai Female, but should I go Mage or Priest? Paladin is also an option if they're really fucking neat.
Vanilla > TBC > Wrath = MoP > shit > Cata > Farmville > WoD
>isnt illidan dead? im pretty sure i killed him in black temple
Illidan did die, the demon hunter starting quest line has him noting that due to the infusion of demonic power the player, like him, has what's called an "immortal soul" which will allow them to return to life if they find a suitable body.
You're not fooling anybody, but here's your (You)
Well it wasn't WotLK either. Vanilla was outright broken because Blizzard didn't know how to make anything besides an RTS.
How this Fisherprice's my first MMO became so popular is something I will never understand.
Official WoW race tier list
Dem curvy panda ladies need a big strong bull, and my Tauren needs to settle down eventually.
>tfw no panda wife to cook you food after a hard day adventuring
You act like I discriminate against humans
>Liking Asian food
>not expecting pandas on new years eve
Doesn't matter the game went to shit when they started listening to the community. You can't balance a game based on customer feedback when the customers want their class to be best.
The art is still garbage tier. Casual everything else. How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
Ever considered the noble act of killing yourself? Fucking faggot.
>You can't balance a game based on customer feedback when the customers want their class to be best.
You also can't balance a game when the class balancers want their class to be the best too, or don't understand how other classes actually work.
rogues are good right now retard
arcane mages are literal gods
I have literally no clues what class to pick. They all look lame.
> How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
They aren't independent, They are activision now. Which is the perfect fit for them because Activision has always been a great company for knowing how to package shitty games in ways that will generate sales to the masses.
As far as the gameplay goes, yes we've already done this thread 30 times. /v/ owns the WoW fanboys who then result to arguments like "muh money" and "whatever im gonna play it anyway!"
As if we didn't expect that.
No one cares if you're going to waste your time and money, but stop shilling a bad game here. WoW hasn't been good for years and the TRUE fundamental problems with the game aren't even being addressed. What is being addressed is shallow vanity shit to appease the remaining fans who spend their free time crying on the forums for stupid ideas and bullshit changes.
>How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
Brand name. Kind of like how every other publisher from the 90's is still around. There are still brand loyal faggots who will eat up whatever they all shit out. Like Crapcom drones and Nintendrones.
He clearly has 120mil, what do you mean?
But yeah they did squish hard enough but then proceeded to make sure everyone was at MoP stats by the end of the expansion. I guess they figured people didn't want an upgrade to have +5 more stats than their last item, they want +50.
Humanity needs to conquer Azeroth with their collective dick
Arcane mages just have the meme opener. Pumping all that damage just skips the irrelevant part of most fights. Rogues are more consistently strong.
They added a legendary that doubles damage for 15 seconds.
It's right there with soul reaver on PS1
they actually did squish enough, we had people doing 10k at level 100, which was far more reasonable damage
except we go up 50 fucking item levels a tier because LFR, Flex, Heroic and Mystic
There are much better and more memorable old MMO's that are literally dead to cry over and yet people are here crying about WoW, a game that was never good but attracted all sorts of underage normies who don't remember that WoW discussion used to be banned on /v/.
You aren't fooling anybody, we know you still play this shit game.
Illidan deserves his own game. He's best Warcraft character.
game has so much little amount of buttons you can basically have same binds to all classes. For example I have silence ability on Q for everyone. Might as well play on gamepad but moving camera would be a bitch with two sticks
I want to fuck every female of every race barring the dead ones
I dont want to give my dick a disease and rot off I can't spread my seed to other races otherwise
but the best race (pandas) has the best racials?
>less fall damage for air ganks
>boost to cooking, always helpful for raid food
>+125 to a stat of YOUR CHOICE via food buff AND double effect of stuff like Gigantic Feasts
>clutch quaking palm interrupts
elves in wow-
95%- worthless shitheads who are more harmful then an empty slot in your group.
5%- people who are ashamed and picked elf for the racial. Or they wanted to be an ally druid/horde pally pre cata
You forgot rare hunting. Most rares in MoP were actually fun to fight and dropped fun items that were better than a piece of gear you'll replace in a level.
Plus the Zandalari rares too. Competition for those was fucking ruthless and added more to WPvP.
Only people who hate MoP are those who exclusively did arenas/BGs and nothing else or people who never played it.
Someone needs to make a wow xpac cycle graphic like the sonic cycle.
1- new xpac, this time its different!
2- fetured "leaked", devs swear up and down they have learned their mistake. A couple good idea come forward and hype up old salty players.
3- game released, nothing has changed, game has actually managed to become worse. Interesting things revealed in 2 are nerfed/removed completely or ignored.
4- players mass unsub, claiming they will never sub again.
5- go to 1.
You read it wrong. It's 1.1mil
Divide the total damage and you'll see that they're only ~15 seconds into the pull. Abusing some prepull tricks and a broken trinket mechanic plus popping every cooldown allows them to reach such high dps. They're basically worthless for the 2 minutes after so it'll average back down to around 200k.
Still pretty high though. Too much ilvl inflation has already largely cancelled out the squish.
>make a blood elf dk for extra silence on a friend server to play with him
>make a troll dk on my server for 1% haste
>blood elf is level 83 since fucking forever
>playing with my troll dk "where is my blood elf racial? for a few days
I will pound this panda until it is pregnant with our hybrid spawn
>make generic shill thread #1029305394895
>get called retarded for asking a rhetorical question when everyone with half a brain knows the answer
Kill yourself dumb dumb
havent played wow for 5 years, but i can sum it up for you.
Removing options is bad.
"streamlining" games leads to a lack of diversity and makes everyone feel the same and boring.
Not everyone needs to be a special snowflake, but removing an option from players is never a good idea.
W E W
How much do you get paid to shill legion?
you dumb fuck, the filename is the same in every thread in this pic. answer the question
>try private server
>it's just not the same
you dumb fuck thats the filename of THE VERY FIRST image when you search "wow legion"
Can you really be this fucking stupid
look at this newshit
the filename is the same for anyone who downloads the image
lurk more faggot
>defending the OP who is clearly following a formula
Hey retard, do you shills even try to mix up the formula at all when you create new threads to shill legion?
look at the image I posted again dumb dumb
>is WoW saved
>are you hyped
>are you excited
>will this save the game
Who cares that they're using the same image that appears first with a google search that doesnt change the fact that this is clearly a shill thread and that you're clearly sucking down blizzard cock
do you seriously believe that anyobody is stupid enough to market this game - or any game, for that matter - on 4chan?
Soulreaver is only 2 years older than WoW
>It's a marketing thread
>Everybody should know it's a marketing thread
>319 posts bumping the thread and 101 unique IP's have posted
You people are stupid as all hell.
No one shills on 4chan guys
that's just a myth!
I was just linking multiple posts to mine because they were relevant to what i was posting
Are you sure these posts in those images aren't just you being baited by faggots who are pretending to be shills because those threads get replies?
Like people who post cuckold threads?
I sometimes like to roll up female pandas because they have cool animations. My furfaggotry is just secondary. Right now, my main is a male human warrior as I try to get back into WoW because I can't stand relapse.
Man, I still want to do some PvE that takes skill with a group of bros. That sounds fun.
But I have a fulltime job and I don't want to stay up until midnight playing a computer game 3 nights a week.
hes right though.
You dont kill Illidan.
You only think you do because you're a wrathbabby shitter who has only killed illidan at lvl 100 to farm glaives and therefore oneshot him.
In reality, when he reached sub 5%, the fight would end and he'd be trapped in stasis by maiev.
>coming into threads of videogames you've never played just to insult people
You've yet to say anything but braindead, shill, retarded and your apparent catchphrase "dumb dumb".
Anything else you want to share with the class?
The only people who complain about pandas in wow are wrath babies who e never played warcraft3
>Chen's keg quest in barrens from vanilla wow.
>beaches in dark shore and swamp of sorrows littered with corpse of giant turtles with blatant Asian decorated harnesses.
Why would I say anything else? There are people in this very thread that are either retarded enough to think that there arent companies that shill on 4chan or are shills themselves and just denying it, or hell maybe they're just brand new to this website
Also I literally said "dumb dumb" once and then apparently 2 other people a shitposter included started using it.
>Why would I say anything else?
Should've stopped reading there as it summed up your post. I have noted you not denying you haven't played the game, in which case, why are you here? Have you ever heard of ignore shit you don't like?
>never played the game
Yes I've played it since it came out so what?
What does that even have to do with anything?
Are you fucking stupid?
No seriously tell me how having played a game or not having had played a game negates me calling out paid viral marketers?
>What does that even have to do with anything?
Maybe if you were following along with words I wrote you'd know.
>Are you fucking stupid?
Whatever makes it easier for you to get that Anonymous street cred, Vaxi!
>No seriously tell me how having played a game or not having had played a game negates me calling out paid viral marketers?
So then ignore the shit you don't like? I'm still seriously waiting for you to answer that, 'dumb dumb'. Yes shills come on /v/, does that mean every thread about the game is shilling and needs 150+ posts stating as such?
I await for you to insult my intelligence, or state my allegiance through an us vs them mentality, bub.
Unfortunately fire is pretty weak right now
big dick combustion onto multiple targets can do some ridiculous damage no doubt but not like an arcane mage. Their 4 piece is limitless potential
ps fuck crystal glad its gonzo
Because it followed Cata, which already left people with a bad taste in their mouth. At that point, since people already left, they just shat on MoP without ever actually playing it.
How do I know this? Because it is literally what all of my IRL friends did, and they mimic the general consensus as far as these things are concerned.
They still look bad, holy shit. Not even trying to turn this into an MMO gang war, but FF14 has way better attack animations than that and needs to be able to run on the goddamn PS3. Get it together, Blizz.
>Demon Hunters are definitely the greatest thing in the expansion
>We can't wait for you to play them, they are incredible
>Man Demon Hunters are my favorite feature in Legion
>All the raw passion from the developers and concentrated coolness was pulled for the DH
>It's a 14 button class with a rage mechanic
>tfw my Fire Mage is a 3 button class with a once in a while click mechanic
>He can't play keyboard piano with hot keys and movement
I don't even know how people play using numbers beyond 5. I get some people use the number pad on the side, but I literally cannot play melee dps without needing constant camera control.
Any expansion or patch that fixes the cape and armor clipping, I will hail as the expansion that truly saved WoW
>end of mop, wod announced
>der gunna fix da game guys :DDD
>2.5 million re subs
>lol nope its shit
>5 million subs lost
>end of wod, announcement of legion
>der gunna fix da game guys, its gunan be ebin :DDDD
Tfw we'll never get to see this graph drop lower because Blizzard don't want to hurt the feeling of the few cucks left.
Something you hate dying isn't as fun if you can't watch.
There's only cancer left in WoW now.
There's no real skill involved anymore. All the players good enough to realize this have left, the only people left are the ones who play it super casually or THINK that they are super talented for clearing the easy shit content.
There is no mastery of classes left. Hell the only class that even has a rotation any more, shadow priest, feel like it has that rotation because of a balancing mistake.
The classes are only getting easier with Legion.
There is already a 4 button Moba style combat for some classes in WoD, Combat Rogue and Arms Warrior, and that number is tripling with Legion.
Last year this time WoW had 10 times as many subs as FFXIV.
6 months ago it had 4 times as many subs.
Now you guys would be lucky if you even have twice as many subs.
WoW might be the biggest, but not for long.
>FFXIV getting DESTROYED by a 12 year old game.
MFW FFXIV will NEVER EVER be as big as WoW.
I skipped over MoP completely but I went back to Isle of Thunder to see what I have missed and I must say: What the fuck happened between MoP and WoD ?!
Isle of Thunder's art direction is 10/10 and there's an actual storyline behind it all that drives you to go in one of the best raids ever (from what ive seen). Meanwhile we get... Tanaan Jungle. What a fuckload of shit.
Maybe before HW.
FFXIV gained a million NEW subs in the first month of HW. As in just people who had bought the base game in that month. That doesn't count the people who came back for HW.
Even if you wanna say that the game only had 500k before HW that's at 1.5 mil at a minimum now. That's at least of half of what WoW has now.
Keep in mind that FFXIV subs are probably way higher than 1.5 mil though.
There are no numbers of that released but you'll find that the 5 mil player count was done just after HW. Just before HW it was at 4 mil.
You'll get nothing and you'll like it cuck.
Different teams is all I can guess
MoP had solid content outside of 5.1, and 5.2 was literally fucking god tier sans LFR,
Siege lasted WAY too long, but it wasnt a bad raid, just nothing special
I dont fucking know man. 5.2 was objectively the best patch as it had solid EVERYTHING
>warbringers around MoP bringing out some Wpvp and grouping up
>isle of thunder was the perfect way to do dailies and reputations
>dinosaur island with a fun world boss and something to do solo in your free time
>top tier raid that rivaled Ulduar
it was just so good
Only gripe was doing LFR since I was in a shit raiding guild and we didnt full clear for a while so I needed legendary shit and rep. If LFR had been as shit as it is in WoD and absolutely useless then 5.2 would have been perfection itself
and I cant even pick what about Isle made it so much more enjoyable than other things
I think those are old estimates before HW.
It's definitely worth getting into. Just don't treat it like an MMO from the very start, it was very clearly designed to be a FF game first and foremost so just treat it like a good FF game until you reach the higher levels.
I loved not needing to grind up honor and conq and using my PvE gear and timeless buffs to 2 shot people. The Censer was a fucking amazing item in both promoting wpvp and helping with faction imbalance
Legion NEEDS one. Especially if they want to promote playing out in the world
Reminder that multiboxing is 100% okay with Blizz and you can crash the server whenever you want for the right price.
doing an 80 man multibox split into 40 alliance vs 40 horde and fighting eachother is against the rules. You cant farm honor/hks on yourself with multiboxing.
if you want to cry about emerald dream multiboxing at least get your facts straight
It's not, i don't understand why people say that, unless you run across one of those guys that has like 10 or so accounts running at once and does pvp or some shit i dont really see the harm
I mean WoW is basically a singleplayer game now does running multiple accounts at the same time even matter anymore? they cant solo heroics very well if at all doing that and they sure as hell cant raid like that
no way they can do arena like that either
i guess it might be irritating in pub BGs but I mean other than that and maybe some PVP server ganking whats the big deal?
>IT'S ALL ABOUT THEMES! THEMES! THEMES!
>EVERY SPEC IN THE GAME MUST BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEMATICALLY BECAUSE NO REASON!
Alright time to start this rant again. Why the fuck are so many people eating up this theme bullshit? Since when do people actually give a shit that every spec looks and "feels" completely different? That has never been what specs are about, never. Specs have always already been different mechanically, which is the only thing that matters, themes have never really been a thing and nobody has cared until suddenly just now. The class itself has always been the theme, not the spec. The class is what you roleplay as. The only exception really is shadow priest where one spec is very different from the core class.
Why are so many people happy about every class being completely gutted of everything that represents them, then being splintered off and put back into specs? Rogues are stealthy ninjas or outlaw types who use dirty tactics like poisoning their blades and using powders to disorientate you while having some very light access to shadow magic. Some rogues stab you in the back while others are more master swordsman who face you head on. That's the class, that's the theme. Except now let's just remove all of that and make it so only assassin spec uses any poison at all, subtlety are the pure shadow ninjas, and combat... Oh right we just removed everything about the class except the swordsman part so let's just make them a fucking pirate because who gives a fuck! People will love it right?
It's retarded, and the saddest thing of all is that people actually do love it. The forums are full of people who absolutely love this shit. They don't give a fuck that every class has been completely gutted in exchange for very shallow themes that will wear off their novelty within 6 months.
Themes are a gimmick and nothing more. Specs have always been mechanically different, this is stupid.
>Only the shoulders and helms have unique models.
What's the point?
>rogues are stealthy ninjas or outlaw types that use shadow magic and poisons
and they seek to bring out each aspect of what a rogue is as a specialization. Almost like they specialized in a certain aspect of rogue behavior
I am a furry and I hate the panda's I just started playing again since vanilla and they look like shit and don't fit in the game
>Since when do people actually give a shit that every spec looks and "feels" completely different?
Because many of us have been playing this game for huge amounts of time and already have multiple classes leveled to 100. Classes are a form of content that need to improved upon. If blizzard doesn't reinvent them every so often the game becomes even more boring.
>tfw can't aimshot shit with citizensnips
I guess survival will be the spec to play for
>Maiev says: It is finished. You are beaten.
>Illidan says: You have won...Maiev. But the huntress...is nothing without the hunt. You...are nothing...without me.
>Maiev says: He's right. I feel nothing. I am nothing. Farewell, champions.
Maiev captures him during the Demon Hunter opening quests you self-righteous shmuck.
>TFW Fury Warriors, new-Survival, and anything wearing Leather will not be allowed to pull anything remotely resembling top 5 statistics in DPS so Blizzard can push their EPIC new pwecious snowflake edgelord class.
Sure the belts and capes have different models but the chest pieces and pants are all just one of 3 different models with a texture swap.
Almost every single piece of gear in FFXIV has a unique model.
Don't forget Demonology, Blizzard must PUNISH them for DARING to take the Memeon Hunter's most ICONIC ability! Give them more imp swarms that do 100 per fireball or some shit so they can pretend they're influencing a battle.
Let me use big letters to keep your attention.
In his boss fight in Black Temple, he DIES. This has been the same since BURNING CRUSADE.
You loot his CORPSE.
Maiev doesn't stick around, she leaves immediately because she believes him DEAD.
She doesn't channel some generic purple spell over him to signify capture, because she KILLED him.
The RETCON happens in the new expansion when he tells the player-Demon Hunter he has an immortal soul that can re-manifest on Azeroth like demons do.
Good? Good. Now stop calling people Wrathbabbies when you're literally talking out of your ass.