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>classes actually look distinct and unique

Will it be good /v/?
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No, but we'll probably play it anyway
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I can safely say that everyone is over WoW
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Good? No.
Sorta fun for the first two weeks until we realize it's the same stale bullshit but with demons again? You betcha.
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isnt illidan dead? im pretty sure i killed him in black temple
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Do people still run Non-HC raids in WoD?

The only thing people look for are Mythic or HC raids.
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every expansion since cata looks good and then end up being shit once it comes out, but I'm going to buy it and play for a couple weeks or so anyway because at this point I may as well see the content they add
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>>322107892
except mop looked like shit and ended up being really good
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>>322107181
Black temple, was merely a setback.
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>>322107181
You cant kill demons. They go back to the twisting nether for their mcguffin fix and come back.
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>>322107956
>MoP
>Good
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>>322106701
Looking forward to playing Outlaw Rogue for a month and then drop it again until the next expansion.
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>>322106701
>wings
>unique
>demon
>unique
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>>322108204
Apart from SoO being so long, MoP was actually good yes.
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>>322107956
yeah mop was great, PvP was only the second worst it's ever been now that WoD is out and it had one whole raid that was decent, not to mention having literally nothing to do besides dailies was just awesome
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>>322108406
And the disease that are pandas
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It's the last harah

It will be another turd or something to bring the franchise back.
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My Demonology Warlock might be fun to play for once.

Shitting on people in PvP is nice, though.
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>>322108406
My only problem with Mists was the launch. Fucking rep grind was insane. After that though, the raids were great.
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>>322108473
>he still hates pandas
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Probably will resub for this, clear the heroic content and quit until they release new raids.
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>>322108297
He means all the classes. Like, rogues are now a rogue or ninja or pirate instead of just 3 different rogue specs that work the same.
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Maybe thematically. From what I've seen, class interdependency, specialized roles etc. are still pretty much completely absent and in a way it distances itself even further from these concepts (for example, raid buffs are meaningless in neo-WoW, but Legion seems to be removing them altogether, which increases the distance to actually having support roles in the game rather than everyone doing the same thing with different animations and resource names).
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>>322106701
the warrior class hall is hype as fuck, as well as the method of entry and exit

but that alone can't make up for the game's short-comings, especially how fucking terrible (as in shitty to play, not necessarily weak) the arms warrior spec is
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>>322108531
>le le le mandas!!! XDDDD
>le le cute fempanda!! benis hard :DDDD

Yeah they're cancer
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>>322108591
The only one talking about pandas is you, dude
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>>322108591
>cant win argument
>enter shitposting overdrive
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I'll probably play just for Melee Hunters. I've waited 10 years for this.
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>Implying class halls aren't shitty garrisons
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>>322108591
I'm not sure how
>le le le le panda le le XD XD XD
proves your point.
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>>322108648
Go to /wowg/, it's full of Panda furfags avatarfagging and shit-posting.
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shills shills go away
and stay that way
if blizzard is indeed basic
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>>322108591
Pandas are cool though

IT'S TIME FOR A RACE POWERRANKING

1. Male Human
2. Male Dwarf
3. Male Orc
4. Male Troll
5. Male Panda
6. Male Worgen
Huge gap
21. Female Dwarf
22. Female Panda
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>>322108759
>>322108674
>>322108648
>S-someone is mean to us pandas!!!
>DEFENSE PANDA FORCE ACTIVATE! MAXIMUM PANDA DEFENSE MODE!!!!!!!!

Reminder that MoP panda faggotry made the coffin and WoD sealed it.
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>>322108674
>>322108591
>>322108531
>>322108504
>>322108204
Why do people say MoP is bad? It had shit ton of content and stuff to do, it was the right direction for the game

Treasure Hunting
Pet Battles
Scenarios
Proving Grounds
A lot of different reputations
New and added content consistently apart from SoO
Good raiding
Pvp zone added
Thunder Isle
Timeless Isle
Dinosaur Isle
Legendary quest that actually took time
Various new mounts
New Class and New Race
Brawler's Arena
New Theme for the whole game

I'm most likely missing a few things, but it's sad that people say the expac was shit simply because of "muh pandas"
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>>322108683
Oh boy another melee dps spec
Since the game has released they have not made a ranged DPS spec. Not even once in eleven fucking years.
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>>322108406
WoD is so bad that people now think MoP was a decent expansion.
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>>322108192
While that is true, Illidan didn't die even in BT anyway. He was knocked out. I'm serious.
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>>322108887
i dont like pandas but youre being a retard
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>>322106701

Classes are already distinct and different.

It doesn't matter how interesting the classes are if the game around them is boring.
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>>322108810
Any general on /vg/ is going to encapsulate the absolute worst of a game Anon.

>>322108849
>Female Dorf
>21

Shit taste.
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>>322108907
It was - refer to this post please >>322108897
>>322108887
you're a cunt, look at all this shit the expac had, but you ignore because you're a closet faggot
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>>322108810
So don't go there. /wowg/ is shit. Every general is shit.
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>>322108810
I'm pretty sure /wowg/ has nothing to do with MoP, perhaps you are letting obnoxious fans ruin your view?
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>>322108810
nobody cares about wowg its a shithole
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>>322108907
In comparison it is.
HFC is a better raid than anything in MoP though.
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>>322108849
>1. Male Human
>2. Male Dwarf

Tryhard PvP nigger detected.
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>>322109003
>>322108984
>>322108982
>Uggg!!! D-doesn't matter!
Panda logic is liberal logic, makes sense.
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>>322109017
>HFC better than Throne of Thunder

I disagree with your opinion.
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>>322108959
>Classes are already distinct and different.
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Considering it was being developed alongside WoD, hell no.
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New Draenei are cancer. I wanted to play a motherfucking "broken". Instead we got blueberry tieflings.
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>>322109079

Because Warlocks and Paladins are so similar, right?
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>>322108810
>/wowg/
femdwarf, night elf goat blood elves are your main shitposters. you only see the panda ones because your to fucking blinded with your butthurt about "HURF KUNG FO PANDA MY BUTTHURTS AHHH"
Thats you nigger get mad.
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>>322109072
>pandas are bad because 5 people on the internet are autistic about them

Fuck off you retard
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>>322109075
That's fine. I like the aesthetic of HFC more and I think the fights are more interesting, and personally the hype for ToT killed it for me a little.
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>>322106701
>Will it be good /v/?
it will be great
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>>322109238
Pandas are so bad they made the subs drop like a rock, almost as hard as fucking WoD
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>>322109072
>"panda shitposters ruin every thread"
>continues to shitpost about how much he hates said shitposters even though there are none to be seen
Flawless logic
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>>322109289
except subs rose up again after MOP launched

fuck off you retard
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It's over, lads.

Just let it die.
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>>322109158
>because ranged dps and melee dps/heals/tank are so similar, right?
Damn, no one can possibly refute that.
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>>322109125
>alongside
doubtful. they had to stop fucking everything they were doing for legion to put flying into wod, if anyones to blame for legion being awful just blame the people who wanted flying.
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>>322106701
Not as good as undertale
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>>322109245
I'd like HFCs aesthetic more if it didn't overload me with GREEN everywhere.

>>322109289
It had the same drop that Cataclysm did. Nowhere near the 5 mil in 6 months that WoD did.
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>>322109447
not enough greentext or stuttering yet, you better keep shitposting
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>>322109360
>>322109465

see >>322109364
>btfo pandas, slain, cucked and crying in pain and agony
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>>322109079
Well, they have been thematically different since day 1 (and in some ways more so than now or in Legion, with actually unique roles, fluff abilities etc). That has always been one of WoW's strengths.

Specs within the class often haven't been too distinct, though. Warrior specs have been distinct, for example, but what about rogues and hunters? They've always been fairly same-y (wow, I'm using "Mutilate" instead of "Sinister Strike" or "Hemorrhage").
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>>322109360
subs rise after every expansion because it's a fucking new expansion, after the initial rise in subs it fell off even faster than cata
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It will likely be shit, but fuck if I care because I'm paying my sub time with gold now.
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>>322109552
and you know this was because of pandas because...?
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>>322109532
>see chart

You should probably look at it retard. It has the same 2.5 Mil drop that Cataclysm had over the whole expansion.
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>>322109447
Those pandas sure are panda-ring to the fans, huh anon.
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>>322109676
maybe you should look at the chart, in 2 quarters MoP lost over half of the subs it gained since release, it took cata almost 4 quarters to reach that point
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>>322109634
here you go, im giving you attention
can you fuck off now literally nobody gives a shit about what you have to say or about wowg
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>>322109665
Because NOBODY wanted them.
It was out of fucking nowhere.
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>>322110124
>nobody wanted them

confirmed for not having played WC2/3 and then WoW

pandas were crazy requested for the first three expacs by hardcore fans because Chen was cool as fuck.

then we got playable and an entire content of pandas and realized part of the reason Chen was cool was because he was rare.
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>>322110124
um, people were asking for pandas since vanilla

you sound like you never spent any time on the forum
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>>322108496
Demo lock, my nigga
I had to respec destro im mop and it pissed me off so much. Is demo good in wod?
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>>322110440
It's strong in PvP and 1v1s.

It's easily the hardest PvE spec to play while having the weakest DPS of the three.
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MoP > Wrath > Cata > BC > Vanilla > WoD
hope legion is good
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>>322110124
>complain about people starting with mop
>he only started with cata
lmao
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What's the best capital city?
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>>322110792
ironforge
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>>322110792
Ironforge for Alliance
Silvermoon for Horde
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>>322110792
One of the Alliance cities.

Horde cities all suck ass.
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>>322110960
>talking shit about Thunder Bluff
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>>322110792
pre-cata org
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>>322110960
all the horde cities are more interesting than stormwind
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>>322110617
It's so people are happy it's getting canned so it can become demon hunter mechanics.

That being said, new demo looks hilariously entertaining and like the sound of it more than what current demo is
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>>322106701
>classes actually look distinct and unique

Exactly, they LOOK distinct and unique, because they all play the fucking same.

Thanks for ruining Rogues, Blizz.
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>>322106701

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnno.

The game is ruined beyond repair. Unless you enjoy being a fucking special snowflake in a world full of 5 million other special snowflakes.

Unless you enjoy toned down content. Where raiding is the only thing to strive for. Where world content is non-existent. Where no one understands RPGs beyond grinding and working towards new gear. Where no one understands meaningful and fun progression.

Fuck everyone who plays WoW, fuck Blizzard who made WoW, and fuck me for spending money on the game for 8 years.
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>>322111007
It was always shit. Pre-flying mounts that shit was obnoxious as hell to navigate.
>>322111206
"No."
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>>322109158
I can honestly not tell what's in a raid anymore if I don't ask/inspect things. The DkS pallies and warriors all look like they're doing the same thing, there are no specs for rogue, if you play rogue you're just a rogue. I can hardly tell the difference between lock, mage, and shaman.

In fact the only thing I know for sure is in a raid is a shadow priest, and that's only to relentlessly mock them and ask when they're gonna start playing an affliction lock already.

Half the healers hot and aoe and the other half a bubble buddies

Half the classes can must and the other half can brez. And if you just have a normal sized raid team you passively get every buff under the sun.

So nah I can't really tell the difference anymore, it's just a mash of wiggling bodies that wiggle till the boss dies.
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>>322111806
>Pre-flying mounts that shit was obnoxious as hell to navigate.
Only if you are a moron
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>>322111520
>Where raiding is the only thing to strive for.

I've been doing it for 10 years, won't stop now
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>>322111817
>Shamans
If you don't recognize chain lightning, I pity you.
Or stuff like frost orb, chaos bolt, or meteor?

Melees are fucked, I'll agree.

But most ranged are very easily identifiable.
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>these new animations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGsOf7vspHA
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>>322111908
Looks like you missed the keyword "only".

There's nothing else to do, everything is implemented with the mindset that people don't want to do anything except raid.
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>>322112559
>That charge stun actually making sense

WEW
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>>322112607
>everything is implemented with the mindset that people don't want to do anything except raid.
Which is fine by me because that's all I want to do. I haven't done PvP since BC and Battle Pets are fucking stupid.
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I was all against people being HANDED legendaries via quests(takes away from that awe of seeing them, like TF or sulfuras)

But this just takes the cake, EVERYONE gets a fucking ashbringer!

what were they thinking jesus christ
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>>322112929
They should have given ret's something else, I'll agree.

But stop obsessing over the color, fuck.
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>>322106701
World of Warcraft: Legion: We Added Animations but Shit the Bed on Gameplay Five Years Ago: The Ability Prune Continues

The people who still play it are thirty to sixty-year-old fuckers with no taste that want to talk about how cool being an older nerd is, they're a decade late to the party and should stick to having social interactions through that once-a-year orgy at their local geek convention.
Their asshole parents were right, they should have tried to make friends in school and tried out some physical activities.

Glad to hear that all the millions of players are finally getting getting that legendary they earned by paying for a game so long past its prime.
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>>322114093
holy fuck youre mad
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>>322114093

see >>322114290
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>>322114093
>Their asshole parents were right, they should have tried to make friends in school

I guarantee you that 90% of the people that played WoW did so because their friends were playing.
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>>322112559
Could be worse. There is slightly too much cartoony flailing around in some of them, but they are hundred times better than some of the new running animations.
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>>322112929
>love fist weapons
>with every class possible, always used two fist weapons

I'm sure there won't be any fist weapons and when there are actually some nobody will take you along to raids because GS 900+ and legendary XP
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>>322115734
there won't be weapons.
That's it. Only the leggos.


I hope they let you transmog them at least.
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>>322108406
Throne of Thunder was the shit, I don't just mean the raid, the area was fucking cool as shit.
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>2015
>STILL playing world of warcraft
haha get laid nerd
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>>322106701
>hunter
Gets nice overhaul of all specs
>Demon hunter
Seems nice so far.
>Warlock
I think destro sucks this time and demonology becomes huge thing thanks to the imp spawn that so far doesn't seem have cap limit.
>Rest of classes.
Not interested of rest.
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>>322115734
I think Shaman Enhance Off-hand is a fist weapon.
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>>322115734
monks and elemental shaman use fist weapon artifacts

>>322115907
yes you can mog them
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>>322116196
Thanks god.

Now my DK will look like the proper edgetard he should be, in full ICC gear.
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I bought WoD but quit as soon as I hit max level because I was over garrisons. Is it worth resubbing now to at least see the content before it's made obsolete or is the expansion still garbage?
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>>322116138
>get laid nerd
y-you too...
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>>322110124
>Because NOBODY wanted them.
everyone wanted panda since the warcraft 3 rexxar adventure
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>>322106701
>classes actually look distinct and unique
But that isn't always a good thing, more abilities got pruned and chanced that made some classes lose their appeal.
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>>322111892
>Only if you are a moron
but I agree with him
you have to wait most of the time because elevators
none of the city parts have any quirk, thus you don't really know where you are
the map doesn't help, because shops are on several levels
it does have the best music thought
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>>322116847
>Ret paladin no longer has Holy Prism

Did Ret Paladins even take that? I never really noticed as a Holy one.
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>>322116528
still absolute shit don't waste your time
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>>322116178
>hunter
Too bad marksman is forced to not have a pet, it should at least have a build in Lone Wolf passive when you use a pet or something. Not having it at all is just retarded, it should always be an option.
>>322117078
It might not be the best option for a ret paladin but it was still a nice spell for its visual.
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which mounts and pets are worth buying right now with the sale?
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>>322116847
>shadow priest no longer has halo
this is what people are bitching about? Not losing fucking DP???
>arcane mage has no healing at all
is this even a change?
>Ret no longer has holy prism
literally never used, Execution is better ST and Hammer was used for other shit
>ele shaman has a 30 yard range
valid complaint. Ranged stacking will be weird
>monk no longer has chi explosion
sorta valid complaint, to my knowledge it was never actually good
>2H build removed
but they integrated the playstyle by changing how Killing Machine procs are used.
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>>322117496
none and I think little rag might be OP, I dont pokewow
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>>322117361
>it should always be an option to have a pet
play BM if you want to shoot arrows and have a pet retard
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>>322117783
sasuga reddit
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>>322117361
There is an option. Dire Beast, which is probably the best talent pick for that tier.
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It'll be worth the initial shelf price but probably not a monthly fee.
WoD questing was fucking fantastic until I got to level 100. I can't imagine Legion being any worse.
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>>322116847
>arcane mage
>Healing
????
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>>322117992
>linear as fuck
>riddled with dicksucking mary sue bullshit
>braindead easy
it sucked ass. The zones sucked ass. Everything about WoD sucked ass. I want to go back to mists
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>>322117783
>people who bind all their abilities to number keys
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>>322117992
>WoD questing was fucking fantastic
No.

It's the same old shit with a few more cutscenes and bonus objectives which were ripped off from ToR.
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>>322108897
They forced you to do daily reputation grinds to get all of the story and to gear yourself. Not only did you have to grind several reputation factions, you had to grind a reputation faction to gain access to the reputation factions.
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>>322118462
>you have to work on reputiations to improve your character

yea how horrible that reputations actually reward you for completing them! they should just sell reskinned hippos for 50,000 gold.

Golden Lotus blocking other reps is sorta valid, but they could have lowered the speed at which you complete the other reps to balance out with golden lotus not being a barrier. Plus klaxxi was doable without doing Golden Lotus
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>>322118230
>linear as fuck
You didn't even play it. The zone introduction was linear is most cases, but after that you were free to do whatever the fuck you want.

>Mary sue
Yrell is the only case of this.

>braindead easy
Like it's ever been hard. In vanilla, it was tedious, not difficult. It just takes the least amount of time comparatively.
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>>322118728
Yea man youre right I only have multiple max level characters right now because I bought an account, I never ever touched leveling, nope.

Oh wait, you were streamlined into these major quest lines every fucking zone. The first entire level of WoD is a linear questline for the destruction of the portal

>Yrel is the only case of this
no, the mary sue is the PC themself. "Oh champion come with me and thrall to go save the day, oh champion here is a garrison under your command, oh champion you saved everything xdddd"
>it was tedious, not difficult
simply wrong. Tedium was because you had to be careful so you werent fucked in the ass. Now you can pull 15 mobs and just cleave them down without risk of death.
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>>322119435
>Now you can pull 15 mobs and just cleave them down without risk of death.
What class were you playing because as a warrior I was getting fucked up by pulling 3.
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>>322119435
>Tedium was because you had to be careful so you werent fucked in the ass.

Different guy but the the tediousness of Vanilla leveling was the god awful hit chance/abilities most melee classes had. If you even pulled an orange mob you were basically fucked. Leveling a Warrior was a fucking pain in the ass that I'm glad I don't have to do again.
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>>322119664
Ive leveled every class but hunter (and freezing trap should make that a joke) and warrior, and it was braindead easy to cleave everything to death.
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>>322119818
But cleave was removed.
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>>322118728
You're a fucking retard if you don't think it was linear as fuck.
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>>322119728
but thats the thing, higher level mobs that are difficult to kill simply dont exist anymore. Elites, never mind regular mobs, rarely exist where you are questing and thus you never risk getting fucked by them.
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>>322119435
>Streamlined into major quest lines
I have yet to have a duplicate leveling experience across 8 characters.

>the PC
Oh, yeah. No disagreement there.

>blahblah
With Garrosh loom yeah, otherwise, no.
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>>322120253
>you need to be overgeared to mass pull in modern WoW
lol. Are you clicking or on a XIV tier GCD? Maybe rogues might struggle but nobody else should
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>>322120253
With me being so highly regarded in WoD it really felt like I was playing XIV.
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>>322120253

>I have yet to have a duplicate leveling experience across 8 characters

Stopped reading right there. Either an Activision-Blizzard marketeer, or just fucking retarded.
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>>322120253
The only way you can avoid a duplicate questing experience for more than 2 characters is having the 300% experience boost up the whole time so you can skip around
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>>322120457
Or I'm not insane and purposely don't do the same shit again.
Heirlooms and the garrison XP pot make it so you can skip massive portions.

>>322120413
It just depends on what gear you come into WoD with. Something new since WoD release, heirloom less (and outside of talent AoE CD based abilities) you don't generally have enough tank to do the massive pulls.
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>>322120756
No, youre just shit at the game if you cant do massive pulls
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>>322108192
You didnt even kill Illidan in BT, you wrathbabby.

You helped Maiev trap him in some demon prison.

And no, WoW will never be good again, because they dont give a fuck anymore.

They dont bother putting out enough content, garrisons are back so any semblance of a world is gone, and the economy is fucked.
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>>322120756
>xp pots and heirlooms

that wont change the massive intro quest lines for every zone. The only variation is when they give you an option for what building you want to build
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I want WoW to die already. We need a new MMO to pull itself out of the hole Blizzard dragged the genre in to.
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>>322121441
>Blizzard
Try SoE. Blizzard only continued what was already popular.

Other than that, aside from EVE, not a single mmo has had longevity. Which is odd, considering their design. They all always have crippling bugs, under or overdesigned mechanics, and a fleeting population after the initial surge.

This only applies to the west.
Korean grinders hold a different audience.
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>>322121441
No chance anon, even people on /v/ defend cancer like LFR

casual normalfags ruined the genre
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>>322121867
>lfr tot is harder than heroic hfc
They truly did.
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>>322117532
>shadow priest no longer has halo
It might be undesired to use as part of your rotation but that's no reason to get rid of it completely.
>arcane mage has no healing at all
Arcane mage had healing on Evocation and Cold Snap.
>Ret no longer has holy prism
It might not be the best option for a ret paladin but it was still a nice spell for its visual.
>ele shaman has a 30 yard range
Maybe it's an option for lower level shamans to have less range but at end game abilities should all have 40yd range.
>monk no longer has chi explosion
It gave an option to a completely new playstyle and make monks like some spell casting hybrid.
>2H build removed
It's all about the visuals, I just want to use one large sword instead of wearing two small ones on the hip.
>>322117842
I want to play marksman and have Chimera Shot while still be able to use a pet when I want to change my play style a bit.
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>>322117989
Isn't Dire Beast garbage though? At the start of WoD I saw a marked increase in DPS switching from Dire Beast to that proc-based one.
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Can't believe nobody has tried to shill FFXIV yet. MMO threads are garbage.
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>>322122107
>while still being able to use a pet

you mean passively have a pet run around, since you dont actually use them at fucking all
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>>322122074

Durumu in LFR was hilarious. So many trash players couldn't figure out that running into the laser was a bad thing.

One other memorable thing about ToT LFR was Megaera and the fact that as tanks, you could intentionally wipe the raid by pointing the heads at the stacking marker, then soloing the boss because of how broken vengeance was. Being a heroic geared prot pally was fun as shit back then.
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>>322106701
Everything else is casualized to hell and back, and the best casual shit got removed while the worst casual shit got implemented during WoD. If WoD was the turd, Legion is the turd cut up into nice unique pieces.
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>>322122846
Even horridon was hard in lfr.
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>>322123102
>nobody kill adds
>wipe
>rinse and repeat
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>>322108849
alright here we go

GOOD TIER:
>Male Human
>Male Dwarf
>Male Nelf
>Male Draenei
>Male Troll

NIGGER TIER:
>Male Orc
>Male Tauren

CERTIFIED GIRL IN REAL LIFE TIER:
>Female Troll
>Female Undead

MEME TIER:
>Female Orc
>Male Panda
>Goblin
>Female Dwarf
>Male Belf
>Male Undead

SHIT TIER:
>Female Human
>Female Nelf
>Female Belf

FURSHIT TIER:
>Female Panda
>Female Tauren
>Worgen
>Female Draenei

KILL YOURSELF IN REAL LIFE TIER:
>Gnome
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>>322123441
>male night elf
>good

kill yourself please
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>>322108472
>actually brought back constant world PvP
>PvP in MoP was bad

You are fucking retarded. Pick one. No one gives a shit about the cancer that is Arena's you faggot.
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>>322123441
What makes fem dorf meme tier?
>>
>okay no
>wait
>what if we
>guys
>what if we took
>all the existing rogue abilities
>and
>and then we
>guys
>and then we restricted them into 3 different talent trees
>then
>and then called it NEW content
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>>322123480
found the insecure manlet
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>>322108591
Nigga please
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>>322117783
>there are people who actually bind their modifier keys to alt, shift, and control.
>one hand is expected to hold modifiers, use the direction movement keys, and press the ability keys
>mouse hand does jack shit but forward movement and camera view

Some people are so bad, they do not even notice they are terrible.
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>>322123723
>ugly as fuck
>shit animations
literally no reason
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I want that fucking transmog system now.
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>>322123837
tallest alliance race

stay jelly manlet
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>>322123646
Who are you quoting?
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>>322106701

I think it will be MUCH better than WoD, anon!

>more interesting and UNIQUE classes
>better raiding
>way better dungoneering
>way better Garrison-like system
>way better crafting
>great UI changes
>more interesting story and lore
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transmog your items just feels wrong
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>>322124015
>meme arrows are for quotes, and not for creating strawmen

Get a load of this retard, talk about being totally wrong.
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>>322123441
The memest opinions I've ever seen.
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>>322123958
>being such an insecure manlet you play a race for its height

lol
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>>322124015

Blizzard
>>
I think I'm going to give the Starter Edition a try (almost certainly not subbing but hey might as well give the game a shot); I've settled on Draenai Female, but should I go Mage or Priest? Paladin is also an option if they're really fucking neat.
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BC > Vanilla > MoP > WoTLK > Cata > WoD
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>>322124039
It has a new class. It's already better than WoD.
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>>322108909
no he was killed, maiev is said to be "watching over his corpse"
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>>322124612
Priest is shit and boring at early levels, go with mage.
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Why do people compare the state of the game to vanilla? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to compare it to BC? When the game was at it's peak.
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>>322124896
lol
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>>322124831
Vanilla > TBC > Wrath = MoP > shit > Cata > Farmville > WoD
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>>322125082
Technically the game peaked in Wrath.
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>>322125214
Maybe in subs. Certainly not gameplay.
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>>322123441
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>>322107181
>isnt illidan dead? im pretty sure i killed him in black temple
Illidan did die, the demon hunter starting quest line has him noting that due to the infusion of demonic power the player, like him, has what's called an "immortal soul" which will allow them to return to life if they find a suitable body.
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>>322125164
go back to vg faggot.
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>>322125282
TBC wasn't WoW's gameplay peak.
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>>322125164
Post more Anduin doing stupid things.
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>>322125406
>female anything
>God Tier
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>>322125541
Yeah, MoP was
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>>322125586
You're not fooling anybody, but here's your (You)
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>>322125541
Well it wasn't WotLK either. Vanilla was outright broken because Blizzard didn't know how to make anything besides an RTS.

How this Fisherprice's my first MMO became so popular is something I will never understand.
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>THEY FELL FOR THE WARLORDS OF DRAENOR MEME AND WILL FALL TO THE LEGION MEME

TOP KEK, WOWFAGS
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>>322125673
meme kek !!!!!! XD +1
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>>322125673
>talking about meme games
This isn't the Undertale thread, bub.
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>>322125673
WoW expansions have had consistent sales for years. Over 3 million in the first 24 hours all. I would be genuinely shocked if Legion doesn't see the same sales.
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>>322125657
If that's what you want to believe
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>>322125406
Fucking WEW lad
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pandafags need to be rounded up and sent down a rollercoaster into a volcano
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>>322125891
but thats a girl
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>>322108849
Official WoW race tier list

>Top Tier:
Troll

>High Tier:
Night Elf
Dwarf
Goblin

>Mid Tier:
Orcs
Human
Blood Elf
Draenei

>Low Tier:
Tauren
Gnomes
Forsaken

>Shit Tier:
Worgen
Pandren
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>>322126025
Just be happy that furfags will never procreate.

They're like Shakers. New generations won't have to deal with the autism.
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>>322125164
Pandaren.
Dem curvy panda ladies need a big strong bull, and my Tauren needs to settle down eventually.
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>tfw no panda wife to cook you food after a hard day adventuring
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>>322116196
>ele shaman uses a fist weapon
>monk has the same number of staves as casters
>axes get zero legendary love

Get your shit together blizz
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>>322126402
Thank Christ.
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>>322126572
axes are a pleb tier weapon
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>>322126146
You act like I discriminate against humans
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>>322125109
lolno vanilla was the absolute worst WoW has ever been, take off the nostalgia goggles.
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>>322126061
>elves anything other than shit
>pandas bad

shit list
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>>322126583
>hating Asian food
>>
WotLK > MoP > WoD > BC > Cata > Vanilla
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>wow thread
>chubby-chasing whale hunter faggots spam it with irrelevant panda shit

EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

YOU

ARE

LITERALLY

AS

BAD

AS

PONY

FUCKERS
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>>322126572
Ele shaman used a fist weapon in War3 and one of the artifact weapon models is that fist weapon
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How are DKs looking in Legion?

Right now its between leveling a DK or a rogue, and rogues are starting to look like shit in Legion.
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>>322126749
>elves
>shit
Human detected
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>>322126146
>furfags will never procreate
Lots of them have produced families.
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femsaken master race desu senpai
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>>322126835
It's actually not every thread
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>>322126835
>not expecting thick pandas on thursday
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>>322126808
>Liking Asian food

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil
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>>322126986
>not expecting pandas on new years eve
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>>322126749
Fuck off furfag
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>>322126884

Rogues are shit right now. The poor class can't even be powerful at the end of the expansion anymore, when it has the gear it needs.
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>>322106701
Doesn't matter the game went to shit when they started listening to the community. You can't balance a game based on customer feedback when the customers want their class to be best.

The art is still garbage tier. Casual everything else. How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
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>>322126982
Femtroll master race*
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>>322127123
All classes are objectively shit right now.
You just have to figure out which classes are the least shit.
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>>322126402

Ever considered the noble act of killing yourself? Fucking faggot.
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>>322127172
>You can't balance a game based on customer feedback when the customers want their class to be best.
You also can't balance a game when the class balancers want their class to be the best too, or don't understand how other classes actually work.
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>>322127123
rogues are good right now retard

>>322127216
arcane mages are literal gods

pic related
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>>322127285
>1.6M
>67% into the fight

what happened to the stat squish?
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>>322127190
Femtrolls were hotter before they over-humanized them to give them more popular appeal.
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I have literally no clues what class to pick. They all look lame.
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>>322127285
Never played arcane.
Are they as boring as everyone says they are?
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>>322126985
The new Tauren women are so good.
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>>322127172
> How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
They aren't independent, They are activision now. Which is the perfect fit for them because Activision has always been a great company for knowing how to package shitty games in ways that will generate sales to the masses.

As far as the gameplay goes, yes we've already done this thread 30 times. /v/ owns the WoW fanboys who then result to arguments like "muh money" and "whatever im gonna play it anyway!"
As if we didn't expect that.

No one cares if you're going to waste your time and money, but stop shilling a bad game here. WoW hasn't been good for years and the TRUE fundamental problems with the game aren't even being addressed. What is being addressed is shallow vanity shit to appease the remaining fans who spend their free time crying on the forums for stupid ideas and bullshit changes.
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>>322127285

Rogues are mediocre in PvP, obligatory in a raid environment and horrible to level with.
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>>322127473
they didn't squish enough

geared 100s have 300-600k HP, thousands of attack power/spell power and shit, passable DPS right now is 30k-100k depending on fight/gear/etc
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>>322127172
>How the hell is blizzard still around, they've only made complete shit for the past 10 years.
Brand name. Kind of like how every other publisher from the 90's is still around. There are still brand loyal faggots who will eat up whatever they all shit out. Like Crapcom drones and Nintendrones.
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>>322127473
>>1.6M
He clearly has 120mil, what do you mean?

But yeah they did squish hard enough but then proceeded to make sure everyone was at MoP stats by the end of the expansion. I guess they figured people didn't want an upgrade to have +5 more stats than their last item, they want +50.
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Humanity needs to conquer Azeroth with their collective dick
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>>322127285
Arcane mages just have the meme opener. Pumping all that damage just skips the irrelevant part of most fights. Rogues are more consistently strong.

>>322127473
They added a legendary that doubles damage for 15 seconds.

>>322127528
Worse.
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>>322127190
>those textures
>that chain
It's right there with soul reaver on PS1
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>>322127907
no, Soul Reaver was actually a good game for its time.
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>>322127752
The mage is pulling 1.6M damage

we had people pulling 10k in highmaul

>>322127897
>double damage
so 800k is okay?
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>>322127673
they actually did squish enough, we had people doing 10k at level 100, which was far more reasonable damage

except we go up 50 fucking item levels a tier because LFR, Flex, Heroic and Mystic
>>
There are much better and more memorable old MMO's that are literally dead to cry over and yet people are here crying about WoW, a game that was never good but attracted all sorts of underage normies who don't remember that WoW discussion used to be banned on /v/.

You aren't fooling anybody, we know you still play this shit game.
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>>322127528
Yes and no

its kinda boring to do the conserve phase but its also more dynamic than a lot of specs
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>>322129359
>le oldfags know this was banned on /v/
Woah haven't seen this before! Shut up you 19 year old spic, no one cares that you browsed /v/ in 2010.
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>>322117783
>people that bind more than 1-0
>people that unbind sheathe/unsheathe
How to spot tryhards. Movement and awareness will always be more important.
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>>322127907
>an old game looks old
no shit
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Illidan deserves his own game. He's best Warcraft character.
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>>322129916
game has so much little amount of buttons you can basically have same binds to all classes. For example I have silence ability on Q for everyone. Might as well play on gamepad but moving camera would be a bitch with two sticks
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>>322124039
What's up its me it's your boy.
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>>322128821

That's his damage done not his dps. His dps is 54k
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>>322125406
ftfy
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>>322131309
Uh no retard, his damage done is 18.53M

look at the meter up in the top right. We have people actually pulling 1.16M damage per second
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>>322131647
male panda needs to be higher

fem tauren was ruined by model updates, male human and fem human belong at the bottom

fem panda needs its own tier of shit
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I want to fuck every female of every race barring the dead ones
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>people making wow race tier lists
>blood elves not at the bottom of every single one

wow is dead.
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>>322131909
I think you mean all elves
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>>322131860
>barring the dead ones
pussy
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>>322132106
I dont want to give my dick a disease and rot off I can't spread my seed to other races otherwise
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>>322131909
>cancer races have best racials

why.jpg
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>>322132263
>fem tauren
yes yes yes...
>new model
pls stop
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>>322132269
Humans are best race and the only one that matters, all others are for breeding
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>>322131909
>>322131985
>hating elves
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>>322132269
but the best race (pandas) has the best racials?

>less fall damage for air ganks
>boost to cooking, always helpful for raid food
>+125 to a stat of YOUR CHOICE via food buff AND double effect of stuff like Gigantic Feasts
>clutch quaking palm interrupts
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>>322129592
That's some harsh projecting buddy.
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>>322132312
What, don't like the dreamworks faces?

:3
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>>322132312
Play with old models in that case
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>>322132380
elves in wow-

95%- worthless shitheads who are more harmful then an empty slot in your group.

5%- people who are ashamed and picked elf for the racial. Or they wanted to be an ally druid/horde pally pre cata
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>>322106701
>Will it be good /v/?
>>
This WoW thread needs more delicious Gallywix.
>>
>>322108897
You forgot rare hunting. Most rares in MoP were actually fun to fight and dropped fun items that were better than a piece of gear you'll replace in a level.

Plus the Zandalari rares too. Competition for those was fucking ruthless and added more to WPvP.

Only people who hate MoP are those who exclusively did arenas/BGs and nothing else or people who never played it.
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>>322133727
Someone needs to make a wow xpac cycle graphic like the sonic cycle.

its always

1- new xpac, this time its different!

2- fetured "leaked", devs swear up and down they have learned their mistake. A couple good idea come forward and hype up old salty players.

3- game released, nothing has changed, game has actually managed to become worse. Interesting things revealed in 2 are nerfed/removed completely or ignored.

4- players mass unsub, claiming they will never sub again.

5- go to 1.
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>>322128821
You read it wrong. It's 1.1mil

Divide the total damage and you'll see that they're only ~15 seconds into the pull. Abusing some prepull tricks and a broken trinket mechanic plus popping every cooldown allows them to reach such high dps. They're basically worthless for the 2 minutes after so it'll average back down to around 200k.

Still pretty high though. Too much ilvl inflation has already largely cancelled out the squish.
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>>322133427
>make a blood elf dk for extra silence on a friend server to play with him
>make a troll dk on my server for 1% haste
>blood elf is level 83 since fucking forever
>playing with my troll dk "where is my blood elf racial? for a few days
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I will pound this panda until it is pregnant with our hybrid spawn
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>>322106701
>>classes actually look distinct and unique
Are you retarded?
>Will it be good /v/?
Oh yeah I guess you are
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>>322121173
>calls someone a wrathbaby
>posts
>You didnt even kill Illidan in BT.
>You helped Maiev trap him in some demon prison.
WEW
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>>322126963

>Likes elves
>Posts generic anime humans with elf ears slapped on

why
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>>322134779
And I fucked your mother. Which has about as much relevancy as your content-devoid reply.
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>>322135005
>make generic shill thread #1029305394895
>get called retarded for asking a rhetorical question when everyone with half a brain knows the answer
>y-your mom
Kill yourself dumb dumb
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>>322116847
2h Frost has been shit and dead for years, why would that even be a current complaint?
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>>322135173
>>y-your mom
Must be easy living with such a selective thought process.
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>>322135304
havent played wow for 5 years, but i can sum it up for you.

Removing options is bad.

"streamlining" games leads to a lack of diversity and makes everyone feel the same and boring.

Not everyone needs to be a special snowflake, but removing an option from players is never a good idea.
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>you never played WoW in it's prime
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>>322125406
>Male Goblin
>Shit tier

>Male Dindu
God tier

W E W
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>>322135410
How much do you get paid to shill legion?
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>>322135906
its one of the first images in GIS you dumb fuck
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>>322136002
Answer the question
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>>322135906
>he thinks I'm the OP
100 people posted in this thread and this kid thinks he's the special one.
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>>322136002
you dumb fuck, the filename is the same in every thread in this pic. answer the question
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How come Blizzdrones do nothing but bitch and cry about their shitty games yet continue to post about them? I mean it's like Nintendrones in overdrive.
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>>322135665
>try private server
>it's just not the same
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>>322136286
you dumb fuck thats the filename of THE VERY FIRST image when you search "wow legion"

http://www.mmogames.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/wow_legion_1-e1439225957791.jpg

Can you really be this fucking stupid
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>>322136286

look at this newshit

the filename is the same for anyone who downloads the image

lurk more faggot
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>>322136268
>kid
>defending the OP who is clearly following a formula
>>322136393
Hey retard, do you shills even try to mix up the formula at all when you create new threads to shill legion?
look at the image I posted again dumb dumb
>is WoW saved
>are you hyped
>are you excited
>will this save the game
Who cares that they're using the same image that appears first with a google search that doesnt change the fact that this is clearly a shill thread and that you're clearly sucking down blizzard cock
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>>322136601
do you seriously believe that anyobody is stupid enough to market this game - or any game, for that matter - on 4chan?
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>>322136393
>>322136547
all me btw haha
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>>322136547
That would mean that every single poster got the image from the same source shill
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>>322136683
How new are you?
No seriously, is this your first day on the job?
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>>322136780
its literally the first image on google

how is this hard to understand
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>>322136683
good try dumb dumb
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>>322136683 (You)
>>322136547 (You)
>>322136393 (You)
>>322136002 (You)
>>322136268 (You)
>>322135005 (You)
>>322106701 (You)
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>>322127907
Soulreaver is only 2 years older than WoW
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>It's a marketing thread
>Everybody should know it's a marketing thread
>319 posts bumping the thread and 101 unique IP's have posted
You people are stupid as all hell.
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>>322136934
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>>322137083
>>322137086
>>322136934
>>322136683
No one shills on 4chan guys
that's just a myth!
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>>322137245
I didn't deny that people shill here you fucking retard. But you keep falling for it. All the time. Every day.
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>>322126884
DKs are looking pretty good so far.
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>>322137339
see
>>322135906
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>>322137339
I was just linking multiple posts to mine because they were relevant to what i was posting
bub
>>322137245
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>>322112929
Agreed. And it's a simple fix. Make up some bullshit about a magic weapon that learns with the user. No reason to give everyone fucking doomhammer.
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>>322137245
>>322137492
Are you sure these posts in those images aren't just you being baited by faggots who are pretending to be shills because those threads get replies?
Like people who post cuckold threads?
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I sometimes like to roll up female pandas because they have cool animations. My furfaggotry is just secondary. Right now, my main is a male human warrior as I try to get back into WoW because I can't stand relapse.
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>>322135906
How much do you get paid to call people braindead and retarded?
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>>322127123
LFR cum dumpster detected
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>>322137643
Well first off I didn't take those screenshots, the only one I did take was the Legion one
but no I don't think it is my friend
>>322137781
>defending shills
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Man, I still want to do some PvE that takes skill with a group of bros. That sounds fun.

But I have a fulltime job and I don't want to stay up until midnight playing a computer game 3 nights a week.
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>>322134913
hes right though.

You dont kill Illidan.
You only think you do because you're a wrathbabby shitter who has only killed illidan at lvl 100 to farm glaives and therefore oneshot him.

In reality, when he reached sub 5%, the fight would end and he'd be trapped in stasis by maiev.
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>>322137920
>coming into threads of videogames you've never played just to insult people
You've yet to say anything but braindead, shill, retarded and your apparent catchphrase "dumb dumb".

Anything else you want to share with the class?
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>>322127897
Fire mages are better than both
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>>322108473
most of /v/ has a furry fetish so playing a panda shouldn't be that strange.
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>>322128821
It's literally Diablo 3 balancing, just add mongo retard damage increasing items every patch to cater to retards
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>>322108591

The only people who complain about pandas in wow are wrath babies who e never played warcraft3

>Chen's keg quest in barrens from vanilla wow.
>beaches in dark shore and swamp of sorrows littered with corpse of giant turtles with blatant Asian decorated harnesses.

Get fukd
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>>322138286
Why would I say anything else? There are people in this very thread that are either retarded enough to think that there arent companies that shill on 4chan or are shills themselves and just denying it, or hell maybe they're just brand new to this website
Also I literally said "dumb dumb" once and then apparently 2 other people a shitposter included started using it.
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>>322138810
>Why would I say anything else?
Should've stopped reading there as it summed up your post. I have noted you not denying you haven't played the game, in which case, why are you here? Have you ever heard of ignore shit you don't like?
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>>322139190
>never played the game
Yes I've played it since it came out so what?
What does that even have to do with anything?
Are you fucking stupid?
No seriously tell me how having played a game or not having had played a game negates me calling out paid viral marketers?
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>>322139836
Well I fucked up the censoring
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>>322136853

because he is legitimately stupid
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>>322139836
>What does that even have to do with anything?
Maybe if you were following along with words I wrote you'd know.
>Are you fucking stupid?
Whatever makes it easier for you to get that Anonymous street cred, Vaxi!
>No seriously tell me how having played a game or not having had played a game negates me calling out paid viral marketers?
So then ignore the shit you don't like? I'm still seriously waiting for you to answer that, 'dumb dumb'. Yes shills come on /v/, does that mean every thread about the game is shilling and needs 150+ posts stating as such?

I await for you to insult my intelligence, or state my allegiance through an us vs them mentality, bub.
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>>322138315
Unfortunately fire is pretty weak right now

big dick combustion onto multiple targets can do some ridiculous damage no doubt but not like an arcane mage. Their 4 piece is limitless potential

ps fuck crystal glad its gonzo
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>>322140659
>Vaxi!
Please dont bully me
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>>322138161
no illidan is killed dead in black temple

legion lore confirms he is dead but he can be ressurected because he is so full of demonic energy
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>>322108897
Because it followed Cata, which already left people with a bad taste in their mouth. At that point, since people already left, they just shat on MoP without ever actually playing it.

How do I know this? Because it is literally what all of my IRL friends did, and they mimic the general consensus as far as these things are concerned.
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>>322141624
just like how grommash is dead in SoO :^)
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>>322142031
>grom
>soo
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>>322112559
They still look bad, holy shit. Not even trying to turn this into an MMO gang war, but FF14 has way better attack animations than that and needs to be able to run on the goddamn PS3. Get it together, Blizz.
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>Demon Hunters are definitely the greatest thing in the expansion
>We can't wait for you to play them, they are incredible
>Man Demon Hunters are my favorite feature in Legion
>All the raw passion from the developers and concentrated coolness was pulled for the DH

>It's a 14 button class with a rage mechanic
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>>322142128
no, XIV has way more unnecessary sparkle lines

seeing an actual reaction when you click a button is good. A firework show is not necessary
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>>322142230
>tfw my Fire Mage is a 3 button class with a once in a while click mechanic
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>>322142230
I main a frost mage
I have a 3 button primary rotation with like 4 cool downs
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>>322123809
>He can't play keyboard piano with hot keys and movement

I don't even know how people play using numbers beyond 5. I get some people use the number pad on the side, but I literally cannot play melee dps without needing constant camera control.
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>>322142479
My warrior in vanilla had more buttons to press than in WoD
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>classes actually look distinct and unique
no they dont
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Any expansion or patch that fixes the cape and armor clipping, I will hail as the expansion that truly saved WoW
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>>322142709
Is letting you hide shoulders a middleground?
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>>322106701
no
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>>322143050

I just transmog to the smallest ones possible desu
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>>322140836
Maybe if you're bad, our fire Mage is top dps every pull basically in mythic
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>>322142397
but anon arent you glad that pooling pyroblasts and that silly combustion mechanic is gone? it was so hard for casuals xddd

FUCK

I WANT MOP FIRE BACK
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>>322108849
>top 6 races are male
hows it feel to be a faggot?
female humans have the best ass in the entire game and you decide to fulfill your bara fantasies with a male human.
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>>322109364
>end of mop, wod announced
>der gunna fix da game guys :DDD
>2.5 million re subs
>lol nope its shit
>5 million subs lost
>end of wod, announcement of legion
>der gunna fix da game guys, its gunan be ebin :DDDD
>resubs
>substantial loses.
its pottery.
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>>322143797
>male human
>bara

Bara races are orc, tauren and panda
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>>322109364
Tfw we'll never get to see this graph drop lower because Blizzard don't want to hurt the feeling of the few cucks left.
Something you hate dying isn't as fun if you can't watch.
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>>322144453
I dont want it to die, I want all the cancer to fuck off

1M is fine population for an MMO
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I stopped paying close attention to WoW in cataclysm

how bad exactly was WoD?
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>>322145285
The only things you had to do at max level was a Facebook game and raiding.
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>>322145256
There's only cancer left in WoW now.
There's no real skill involved anymore. All the players good enough to realize this have left, the only people left are the ones who play it super casually or THINK that they are super talented for clearing the easy shit content.
There is no mastery of classes left. Hell the only class that even has a rotation any more, shadow priest, feel like it has that rotation because of a balancing mistake.

The classes are only getting easier with Legion.
There is already a 4 button Moba style combat for some classes in WoD, Combat Rogue and Arms Warrior, and that number is tripling with Legion.
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>>322145285
max level consisted of sitting in your garrison and raiding

that was it

no
really
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>>322144453
>Dying
>Over 10 years old and still the biggest MMO to date
kek
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>>322146069
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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>>322146069
Last year this time WoW had 10 times as many subs as FFXIV.
6 months ago it had 4 times as many subs.
Now you guys would be lucky if you even have twice as many subs.

WoW might be the biggest, but not for long.
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>>322146710
thats a great impression of a delusional ff4.0 tard
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>>322146853
>Implying I'm even close to wrong.
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>>322146710
>FFXIV getting DESTROYED by a 12 year old game.

MFW FFXIV will NEVER EVER be as big as WoW.
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>>322146710
500k subscribers is enough to keep a game alive, but not what I'd call a WoW killer.
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>>322116079

I skipped over MoP completely but I went back to Isle of Thunder to see what I have missed and I must say: What the fuck happened between MoP and WoD ?!

Isle of Thunder's art direction is 10/10 and there's an actual storyline behind it all that drives you to go in one of the best raids ever (from what ive seen). Meanwhile we get... Tanaan Jungle. What a fuckload of shit.
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>>322147219
>500k
Maybe before HW.
FFXIV gained a million NEW subs in the first month of HW. As in just people who had bought the base game in that month. That doesn't count the people who came back for HW.
Even if you wanna say that the game only had 500k before HW that's at 1.5 mil at a minimum now. That's at least of half of what WoW has now.
Keep in mind that FFXIV subs are probably way higher than 1.5 mil though.
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>>322147708
Not him but can you point me to any statements on current subscribers? All I'm finding is the 5m total player count which doesn't help me.
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Alll I want between now and Legion is a filler raid.
It doesn't even have to be a good filler raid, just something to do that isn't Hellfire Citadel.
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>>322147952
There are no numbers of that released but you'll find that the 5 mil player count was done just after HW. Just before HW it was at 4 mil.

>>322148072
You'll get nothing and you'll like it cuck.
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>>322147440
Isle of Thunder and Throne of Thunder were 10/10

SoO on the other hand was pretty bad.
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>>322147440
Different teams is all I can guess

MoP had solid content outside of 5.1, and 5.2 was literally fucking god tier sans LFR,

>>322148293
Siege lasted WAY too long, but it wasnt a bad raid, just nothing special
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>>322148293
siege was good it just lasted too long

timeless isle was one of the best zones ever implemented, if only for the censor world pvp
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>>322148192
Just found an estimation that said 1mil plus or minus 200k

Definitely not bad. Maybe I'll turncoat if Legion is complete ass.
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>>322148484
No lie Timeless isle PvP is was the most fun i have ever had with WoW.

Reminded me of my old NWN PW days
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>>322147440
I dont fucking know man. 5.2 was objectively the best patch as it had solid EVERYTHING

>warbringers around MoP bringing out some Wpvp and grouping up
>isle of thunder was the perfect way to do dailies and reputations
>dinosaur island with a fun world boss and something to do solo in your free time
>top tier raid that rivaled Ulduar

it was just so good

Only gripe was doing LFR since I was in a shit raiding guild and we didnt full clear for a while so I needed legendary shit and rep. If LFR had been as shit as it is in WoD and absolutely useless then 5.2 would have been perfection itself

and I cant even pick what about Isle made it so much more enjoyable than other things
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>>322148573
I think those are old estimates before HW.
It's definitely worth getting into. Just don't treat it like an MMO from the very start, it was very clearly designed to be a FF game first and foremost so just treat it like a good FF game until you reach the higher levels.
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>>322148657

geez

pvp in expacs was garbage
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>>322148968
Well we won't have to worry about that in legion because it's bringing no new PVP.
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>>322148657
yea same

I loved not needing to grind up honor and conq and using my PvE gear and timeless buffs to 2 shot people. The Censer was a fucking amazing item in both promoting wpvp and helping with faction imbalance

Legion NEEDS one. Especially if they want to promote playing out in the world
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i want a femtaur to stomp on my balls with her big hoofs
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>>322140015
>caring about censoring your name on a vanilla private server
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>>322125406
Nice bait. Saved :0
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Reminder that multiboxing is 100% okay with Blizz and you can crash the server whenever you want for the right price.
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>>322151423
but multiboxing doesnt crash servers retard
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>>322148968
This is bait
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>>322151423
doing an 80 man multibox split into 40 alliance vs 40 horde and fighting eachother is against the rules. You cant farm honor/hks on yourself with multiboxing.

if you want to cry about emerald dream multiboxing at least get your facts straight
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>>322151831
nobody is gonna care if its not in RBGs

and even then nobody cares because its not 3s and isnt PvE
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>>322151423
>Cheating is ok when you pay Blizzard
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>>322152150
>multiboxing
>cheating
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>>322152035
>PvE
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>>322151831
>>322151531

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=232905

>It's not cancer if I say so
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>>322152197
>multiboxing
>not cheating
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>>322151001
>private server
?
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>>322152301
>linking to a website that links a youtube link
>not just linking to youtube
>video is deleted for copyright claim

wow you sure got me, now I truly see the errors of multiboxing
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>>322152254
>PvP
>in MMO

Might as well jump into MOBA
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This thread is still going on? Good god.
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>>322152348
how is it cheating tho?
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>>322152639
people say that using software to copy your inputs to all of your accounts is technically botting
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>>322152480
>PvE
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>>322147153
Keep telling yourself that WoWcuck.
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>>322152639
How is it not cheating?
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>>322152887
It's still your inputs.
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>>322152639
It's not, i don't understand why people say that, unless you run across one of those guys that has like 10 or so accounts running at once and does pvp or some shit i dont really see the harm
I mean WoW is basically a singleplayer game now does running multiple accounts at the same time even matter anymore? they cant solo heroics very well if at all doing that and they sure as hell cant raid like that
no way they can do arena like that either
i guess it might be irritating in pub BGs but I mean other than that and maybe some PVP server ganking whats the big deal?
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>>322153003
>Not picking both.
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>>322152254
The only thing worse than a person playing WoW in 2016 is somebody who plays WoW in 2016 for the minigames.
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>>322153313
>Picking either in WoW.
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>>322130504
yeah it's called Legion.
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>>322153387
>PvE
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this is now transmog thread
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>>322154028
share, /v/
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>>322153195
because it doesnt violate any rules?

>>322152887
retards say stupid things all the time
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>>322106701
classes look distinctly and uniquely shit
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>will it be good
No
>will you play it
Eventually but not right away. I plan on completing naxx 40 and then swapping to corecraft hopefully a few months after it comes out.
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>>322154028
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>>322112559
>last expac
>new models

>new expac
>new animations

what's next?
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>>322154670
>corecraft
>coming out
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>>322154872
bretty gud, anon
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>>322154028
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>>322148695
nigga you're retarded if you think ToT rivaled ulduar
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>IT'S ALL ABOUT THEMES! THEMES! THEMES!
>EVERY SPEC IN THE GAME MUST BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THEMATICALLY BECAUSE NO REASON!

Alright time to start this rant again. Why the fuck are so many people eating up this theme bullshit? Since when do people actually give a shit that every spec looks and "feels" completely different? That has never been what specs are about, never. Specs have always already been different mechanically, which is the only thing that matters, themes have never really been a thing and nobody has cared until suddenly just now. The class itself has always been the theme, not the spec. The class is what you roleplay as. The only exception really is shadow priest where one spec is very different from the core class.

Why are so many people happy about every class being completely gutted of everything that represents them, then being splintered off and put back into specs? Rogues are stealthy ninjas or outlaw types who use dirty tactics like poisoning their blades and using powders to disorientate you while having some very light access to shadow magic. Some rogues stab you in the back while others are more master swordsman who face you head on. That's the class, that's the theme. Except now let's just remove all of that and make it so only assassin spec uses any poison at all, subtlety are the pure shadow ninjas, and combat... Oh right we just removed everything about the class except the swordsman part so let's just make them a fucking pirate because who gives a fuck! People will love it right?

It's retarded, and the saddest thing of all is that people actually do love it. The forums are full of people who absolutely love this shit. They don't give a fuck that every class has been completely gutted in exchange for very shallow themes that will wear off their novelty within 6 months.

Themes are a gimmick and nothing more. Specs have always been mechanically different, this is stupid.
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>>322154028
>>322154292
>>322154872
>>322155465
>WoW transmog.
>Only the shoulders and helms have unique models.
What's the point?
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>>322156065
>the class itself has always been the theme

yea I really see the unifying theme connecting Shadow priests to holy priests
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>>322156414
I'll take "an anon who didn't actually read my post" for $500 alex.
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>>322156589
I dont read 300 words of stupidity
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>>322156065
>rogues are stealthy ninjas or outlaw types that use shadow magic and poisons

and they seek to bring out each aspect of what a rogue is as a specialization. Almost like they specialized in a certain aspect of rogue behavior
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>>322154028

rate me familia
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>>322153195
See
>>322153286

You aren't getting an unfair advantage
There's nothing that can't be soloed in WoW aside from Heroics and raids of course.
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>>322154028
got a few worth posting.
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>>322138359
I am a furry and I hate the panda's I just started playing again since vanilla and they look like shit and don't fit in the game
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>>322154028
>>>/wowg/
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>>322156065
people complain about homogenization all the fucking time

class distinction is important you pleb swine
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>>322106701
>Make lone wolf the best DPS talent
>every hunter takes it

meanwhile at blizzard

>marksmen hunters don't like pets
>let's take them away
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>>322158354
Thats not why they are changing it retard

they changed it because they wanted an archer playstyle without a pet that does nothing but passive damage
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>>322156065
>Since when do people actually give a shit that every spec looks and "feels" completely different?
Because many of us have been playing this game for huge amounts of time and already have multiple classes leveled to 100. Classes are a form of content that need to improved upon. If blizzard doesn't reinvent them every so often the game becomes even more boring.
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>>322158597
I'm sorry you hate your pet but it's a part of being a hunter
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>>322158857
not a marksmanship hunter
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>>322158857
not for marksman (^;
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>>322158927
>tfw can't aimshot shit with citizensnips

I guess survival will be the spec to play for fun
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>>322159097
tried it in alpha

boring as fuck
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>>322159785
Well it is still WoW afterall
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>>322138161
>Death:

>Maiev says: It is finished. You are beaten.
>Illidan says: You have won...Maiev. But the huntress...is nothing without the hunt. You...are nothing...without me.
>Maiev says: He's right. I feel nothing. I am nothing. Farewell, champions.

Maiev captures him during the Demon Hunter opening quests you self-righteous shmuck.
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>>322156104
>Only the shoulders and helms have unique models.
Wrong
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>>322142230
>TFW Fury Warriors, new-Survival, and anything wearing Leather will not be allowed to pull anything remotely resembling top 5 statistics in DPS so Blizzard can push their EPIC new pwecious snowflake edgelord class.
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>>322108907
MoP is a good expansion.

Added a lot.

Nice raids.
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>>322160272
Such as?
Sure the belts and capes have different models but the chest pieces and pants are all just one of 3 different models with a texture swap.
Almost every single piece of gear in FFXIV has a unique model.
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>>322160887
Helm
Shoulder
Belt
Hands
Cape
Boots
Pants
Weapons
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>>322160476
Don't forget Demonology, Blizzard must PUNISH them for DARING to take the Memeon Hunter's most ICONIC ability! Give them more imp swarms that do 100 per fireball or some shit so they can pretend they're influencing a battle.
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>>322160253
> Demon Hunter opening quests you self-righteous shmuck.
>he captures him in the new game that means they didnt retcon the old lore guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>322161146
>Hands
>Boots
>Pants
lolno
Almost every single one of those is a texture swap of a basic model with no features.
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>>322161174
>Metamorphosis having anything to do with Warlocks in the first place

Thank fuck it's gone.
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>>322161252
Let me use big letters to keep your attention.

In his boss fight in Black Temple, he DIES. This has been the same since BURNING CRUSADE.

You loot his CORPSE.

Maiev doesn't stick around, she leaves immediately because she believes him DEAD.

She doesn't channel some generic purple spell over him to signify capture, because she KILLED him.

The RETCON happens in the new expansion when he tells the player-Demon Hunter he has an immortal soul that can re-manifest on Azeroth like demons do.

Good? Good. Now stop calling people Wrathbabbies when you're literally talking out of your ass.
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>>322161337
I can think of 3 different glove models, 1 pant model, and 6-ish boot models that arent 100% flat textures.

theres also a few rings that have 3d models
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>>322161627
I think I made a mistake I replied to the wrong person, i agree that he died in TBC
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>>322161627
demons have been able to re-animate themselves since wc3

to truly kill a demon you have to kill it in the twisting nether, otherwise it can come back after it forms a new body