This depresses the fuck out of me.

So, why do you still play post 2005 games?
Gaming peaked in 2001-2003 and the best by faaaar decade for gaming were the 90's.
Fuck modern gaming dude. Go emulate some classics.

Play testers are so fucking retarded. Reading about how much more in depth Dishonored was going to be in old articles around announcement is saddening today.

Fun fact: the reason why Knife of Dunwall was dope is because they made those levels first.

>>283722585
Cool story nostalgic fag

>>283722259
yea it's pretty sad devs listen to people who don't play games. literally ruined the entire industry

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>>283722259
>I went to break into a house to assassinate somebody, but a guard told me no so I walked away.

>>283722585
Games seem better in the past because your brain selectively remembers the positive ones instead of the negatives.

>>283722780
its called common decency

>>283722259

This has been the case for a while. Therefore you can't really blame companies like Eidos for trying to "modernize" their stealth series like Hitman and Thief.

It's fucking shitty, sure. Since no one wins from them doing that. But they're trying to adapt, it's understandable if nothing else.

I blame feminism

>>283722869
>>283722670
>Defending modern gaming

How's that ps4?

Or wait, i'm just going to assume that you are baiting. If this, by a very small chance, isn't bait then you clearly do not belong on /v/.

>>283722259
I choose to believe that he was joking about the guy turning right. No one is that stupid.

>>283723142
Nostalgia faggots are the ones who don't belong in /v/

Go back to /vr/ for like minded faggots like you. Gaming has far evolved from its older days for the better.

>game developers asking for the opinions of people who have no interest in games
What.

>>283723028
>Therefore you can't really blame companies like Eidos for trying to "modernize" their stealth series like Hitman and Thief.
Yes we can.

>>283723167
>2015
>not believing that everyone is retarded

people are idiots more news at 10!!

>>283723275
I think evolve is the wrong word, anon. Unless you can evolve into a shittier version of youself.

>>283723275
>Gaming has far evolved from its older days for the better.
2/10
you aint trying.

Regarding that Dishonored one; players listened to an authority figure and complied. Are you really that surprised?

has anyone played evolve yet?

>>283723878

No, I'm not. But I think this shows that pandering to the lowest common denominator definitely hurts the games more than helps.

>>283722919
I just let two jackasses go to die in a silver mine that they own, going into a restricted area is a minor misdemeanor by comparison.

>>283723878
Developers should stop using American playtesters.

>they didn't even go upstairs because a guard told them they couldn't
Germanics everyone

>>283723142
Hows playing Superman 64 :)

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>>283723167

>>283723420

>Yes we can.

Sure. But they make products and they will cater to the majority of their audience. Nothing to be done, unless someone changes that audience.

>>283723773
>you aren't trying

Ironic cause you thought of no rebuttal and just said bait

>>283723420
>not trying to sell to the bigger market
>driving profit down into very little return
>making niche games
>complicating things and preventing people from progressing

Only profitable way to do this is to make an indie game and do everything yourself.

Big game companies want to make as much money as possible. Casualization is the smartest economic move to make.

>>283723878
Pick up the can.

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>>283724349

>memequotetransgirl

>>283723275
honestly i think every artform has evolved for the better but generally gaming seems to have grown downwards in terms of depth. even the best modern games are too monetized/streamlined or focused on tech over art, with a few glowing exceptions.

>>283723878
You're playing as an ASSASSIN who is ACTIVELY WORKING AGAINST THE CURRENT AUTHORITY.
Why the fuck would you listen to what guards tell you?

>>283723878
Considering the game has you, up to this point, evading/killing guards, and defying the authority figures of the city, listening to some no-name NPC, as a fucking ASSASSIN, is kind of odd.

>>283723564
HAW HAW HAW HAW

But anon evolution does mean you can evolve into a shittier version of yourself. Evolution is random mutation that is either prevalent or a liability. Did you go to a school where they didn't teach it?

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>>283724395
They had a fanatical audience: fans of Hitman and Thief.

>>283724454
How well did Hitman: Absolution and Thi4f do compared with previous games in the series? How well did they do when you scale the sales of the previous games by the proportional increase in the number of people who play overall?

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I watched a let's play that a couple developers did for Ratchet and Clank and they showed a lot of how testers changed the game. Like they were no longer allowed to have 90 degree turns because testers would run into a room and couldn't see a path forward and would turn around. Also a lot of puzzles had to be dumbed down so that kids could complete the game

>>283722670
Nice try ratfaggot. It's been proven that gaming around 2005 was casualized. In fact, it's in many magazines back then many people talking about changing development to accommodate a wider audience.

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>>283724643
>>283724625
Maybe because you're posing as a party-goer and don't want to arouse suspicion. Maybe they assume it's a pseudo-invisible wall that the devs put up to restrict your access, because that's happened as well. Maybe they've played so many shoehorned corridor shooters that the idea of going left or up is alien to them. Maybe the way the guard was positioned was taken as a cue there was no way to get up there undetected.

There's all kinds of reasons a choice to NOT go somewhere is made if the environment is made reasonably open. An obstacle like that, which is a clear deterrent (as you've had to avoid or kill guards up until that point) is likely to turn away players not because of idiocy, but because it comes off as the developers artificially limiting the player's scope of movement.

>>283724946

People who enjoyed the last two REALLY good games in both series, namely Hitman Contracts and Thief 2, makes up for a really small number of the audience that buys video games today.

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>>283724471
>The show requires that you sit in the chair.

>>283725234
That's an unsubstantiated guess on your part.

It's a race to the bottom, it really is.

Name one successful AAA game that retard valve testers can't play.

>>283724192
What are you talking about? Americans are a lot less likely to listen to authority then say a European or Asian. Countries full of people with a long history of rolling over when the government kicks them.

>>283725234
I would have agreed, but the thing is, those type of games aren't made anymore, so can't make any conclusions.

>>283725516
lol

>>283724454
Well, indie devs want to make money too.

>>283725007
People said that before that dumbass

>>283725576
>noguns

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>>283725158

Shut up your retarted faggot.

>>283725397

Contracts came out 11 years ago. There are way more people playing video games now than back in 2004.

It's pure numbers. There are a large number kids and college guys who grew up on the 7th generation of consoles, which fueled that video game boom of the late 2000s.

>>283725007

2005 was a good year for video games. Things only went irredeemably to shit after 2007, which CoD 4 brought in the masses. Every year up to then felt like it catered more to original video game fans rather than the "wider audience".

You are definitely blinded by nostalgia is you think 2000-2005 was bad.

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>>283725743
I'm sorry wat

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>>283725331
>not sacrificing yourself for the good of the vault

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>>283722259

someone post the pic about japanese devs who don't care about playtesters
i wanna save it this time

>>283725529

Sure. It's a shame no one wants to take a risk.

Even crowdfunding as an idea is out. Given how corrupt and shitty Kickstarter has become.

>>283725743

>Being ranked 3 in the server
>Not being ranked 1

this makes me not excited for dishonored 2

>>283725849

Arguably, there hasn't been a terrible year for gaming outside of 2014. 2014 was really abysmal.

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>>283725679
You were born in 1997; don't pretend you know much about what games journalism was like "before".

>>283725720
YEAH GAS THOSE FUCKIN HIPPIES

PROTESTING IS FOR FUCKIN LIBERALS

>>283725790
>How well did they do when you scale the sales of the previous games by the proportional increase in the number of people who play overall?

>>283722259
For a similar reason, they removed the AI Directors ability to dramatically alter levels in L4D2.
I really wish they didn't hire retards to play test games.

>>283722259
Daily reminder that playetesters are the most retarded people in gaming industry.

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>>283726021
unfortunately I don't have it either

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>>283722259
>one of our tester
>it was niece / children of publisher CEO
>you cant say no to their complain
>every game is actually adjusted for richfag kids

game industry cancer is actualy the tester

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>>283722259
>One of our playtesters continued to repeatedly turn right here for half an hour

Jesus christ, where do they find these testers?

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>>283726138
>listening to authority figures so much you let them take away your ability to defend yourself against their weapons
>think they're liberating you and saving you from being uncultured swine by doing so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBn0yWmbd5U

Valve Playtester in a nutshell.

>>283726138
>y-you are underage ;.;

Nice rebuttal

>>283722869
That's partially true, but the best games of the past far outnumber the best games of today.
There are also less shitty games now than there ever were, but games now don't aim for greatly pleasing a few, they aim for the middle as costs increase.
The fact that they grab random people off of the street or family and friends to play test rather than pulling from gaming communities should show you that.

Publishers want to aim for that sweet spot middle that satisfies as many people as possible and let advertising and over-promising hype-cycles do the rest.

Games right now live in the middle, and if you're experienced, you know better than the middle and you're probably unhappy. Less great games.
If you're new or stupid or you're a games reviewer that has to play everything, you probably love it. Less shit games.

>>283723878
Pretty sure the game was like "go upstairs"

>>283726293
god damn kojima does anyone notcie he looks older in this picture? its weird like did he eat some souls or some shit to regain his youth?

>>283726429
It's just how the general population are. Where do you think the term mass-sheep came from? Who do you think watches Honny Booboo, Jersey Shore, the Kardashians, etc.

>>283726440
but that's how it should be, they progressively got gud
so the players have to get gud as well

>>283726429
family and friends most likely, basically retards too.

>>283725823
I dunno about others but the usual reason I don't finish games is that they're longer than they are interesting. Games should be shorter, because they never actually have 20+ hours of interesting material

>>283726478
>I may be an absolute bootlicker from a culture that treats the concept of liberty as a superficial thing to show off in words rather than a fundamental right, but MUH GUNS

>>283722585
>Gaming peaked in 2001-2003
LOL

Gaming was already casualized in the 90s, kid.

>>283722259
How is this depressing? I fucking love it when I don't have to get lost in a game. I can continue playing instead of having to stop, look up a guide, find the part I'm on and repeat the solution/path in the game right after looking at it on my computer screen.

Is the Lady Boyle Mission still worth playing or was it ruined by the playtesters?

>>283722259
Friend of mine who has been playing games longer than I have (he's 30) recently picked up COD and in the past few years has become the ultimate casual. He couldn't even finish dark souls 2 without me holding his hand and if he starts playing a game I'm playing he skips ALL instructions and immediately calls me up asking what he's supposed to do.

Was dishonored any good?

>>283722869
Maybe, but it's pretty easy to actually check, and it turns out they really were much better!

>>283727454
There's no real mystery to it. You go in expecting having to sneak around to find out who is the target, but someone will literally just tell you, and there you go.

>>283727104
You still get the occasional throwback like dorf fort though.

>>283727635
Oh how really gay

>>283727494
No, not really. Typical 'revenge fixes everything' plot. The only good thing is that the lead artist is the same concept artist who worked on half life 2, so expect gorgeous architecture and environments but nothing else.

If you can find it dirt cheap, take a crack at it, but fuck the hype.

>>283724972
>Also a lot of puzzles had to be dumbed down so that kids could complete the game
well that at least makes sense, since r&c was a kids game

>>283722259
Not me. Give me encouragement that I could be dumber than I already am.

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>>283726892
>thinks the fact that the US highly values and celebrates concepts of freedom and liberty because of its history means they don't consider it a fundamental right
>instead thinks that violating that his europoor masters violating his fundamental rights is okay since they never speak of it

I think some play testers are retarded. I remember some FPS dev talking about how half of them would walk around staring straight at the ceiling or floor for 30 minutes.

>>283726579
He feeds on all the souls of those who've killed themselves after playing the disaster that is Guns of the Patriots.

>>283727981
You let patriot act pass and did nothing about the NSA recording fucking everything you do.

The freedum and liberty ship has long since sailed.

>>283728358
>still guns

>>283727981
clappers have such a slavish devotion to authority that 99.5% of guns in the US would be successfully recovered within a year of passing a law banning the private possession of firearms. the remaining .5% of guns would belong to paranoid people who live in the middle of nowhere and actually have the balls to form militias because of the minimal police presence.

if you want an example of a country that WOULD boil over into war if such an act were passed, look at Serbia.

>>283728451
hah

>>283722259
>They didn't go upstairs because a guard said they couldn't
IN A MOTHER FUCKING THIEF STYLE GAME.

>>283728451
I never understood the gun thing. "It's so we can overthrow an oppressive government". You didn't use them for Bush and you haven't used them for obama despite all your bitching. Aside from which if you did have some uprising they'd just bring out the drones.

>playing Deus Ex for the first time as I didn't have a PC when it came out
>instantly notice how little the game holds your hand
>oh that important clue you didn't find? oh well, now your job is much harder
>no, you can't just run in and shoot everyone, there's not enough gear. and even i there was, other characters would hate you and not help you later
>overhear some important conversation? better write what you need down in the notes
>spend like an hour just exploring and trying to find secret rooms and get past locked doors
>information everywhere, tons of books, emails, account info, data cubes, conversations
>get into some 10 min philosophical conversation about governance with a bartender

It's insane how different games are these days. How much they hold your hand. I'm just glad I didn't play this stuff when I was younger so I can experience for the first time now.

>>283728849
>implying Bush was oppressive

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Heres the thing.

In modern games, there are often entire segments of unfinished game that the devs either couldn't complete or cut out to re-package as DLC. And more often than not, their hint to the player that they can't go that way is an inivisble wall and an NPC saying "Don't do that". So I can understand the Dishonered. It's how modern casuals have been conditioned to think.

>>283728946
>passes an act which lets the government do whatever the fuck they want as long as they accuse you of being a turrist
>not oppressive.

>>283728946
Brilliant.

>>283722259

The thing is, as they "streamline" games for retards who would get lost in any map more complicated than a corridor, they also teach future players to BE retarded - to assume that unless there's a flashing arrow on something and a mission prompt telling you to rub your dick in it, it can't be interacted with. Tyranny of small decisions, removing play from the game.

This is where the developers need to take a stance and say "No, we're not going to design our game for total imbeciles. We have higher standards than that."

>>283728923
You kidding? We still have plenty of visual novels. A better example would have been Zelda 1

>>283725823
>anyone who thinks a boss battle should be so hard it needs 14 or more attempts is an idiot
that edge

video games journalists need to let go of the notion that every game should be completed by every player without too much trouble. my 5 year old nephew couldn't beat wind waker if he tried. is that bad? no. he needs to git good. specifically he needs to l2read

if every boss is expected to be beaten after a maximum of X attempts, where the fuck is the actual challenge and actual achievement? sometimes there might be a part of a game that you can't do at all no matter how much you try. deal with it. you're not good enough. games are not movies. you can't reach the end by just sitting there.

very hard games are going to make less money in general but that isn't a reason to say games SHOULD be dumbed down. if a game won't cater to the lowest common denominator, their profits will suffer, but they'll have their pride as a result

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>>283724489
>Decide to Google it
>Find this
WHAT THE FUCK
http://v4chan.com/thread/283722259/this-depresses-the-fuck-out-of-me.html

>>283728754
You're taking gamers that are conditioned to expect linearity through invisible walls and arbitrary restrictions on movement who are then told by the game they cannot enter an area, what do you expect?

>>283729081
>not doing everything in your power to get into the place you're not meant to
It's like curiosity and imagination has been forcibly curbed by your upbringing. Oh wait...

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>>283722585
how about u doodely back to where you came from?

>>283728649
>clappers have such a slavish devotion to authority that 99.5% of guns in the US would be successfully recovered within a year of passing a law banning the private possession of firearms. the remaining .5% of guns would belong to paranoid people who live in the middle of nowhere and actually have the balls to form militias because of the minimal police presence.
[wild speculation intensifies]

the US has fought for its guns so hard that there was never a need to test this scenario

>>283729256
>video games journalists need to let go of the notion that every game should be completed by every player without too much trouble.

This. It used to be, in the 80's, that you had to be among the top 5-10% most skilled to even be ABLE to beat the average game. Beating a game was a rarity, a momentous occasion that you celebrated at the schoolyard. Then we got all these movie faggots sneaking into the industry, people from a noninteractive, utterly unchallenging medium acting like beating a game is a right. Like just because someone paid money for the game, he should be allowed to see every bit of it without putting in effort, without getting gud.

You didn't need achievements in classic games. Beating them was the ultimate achievement in itself.

>>283729498
>claims to lead the world in liberty
>can't even walk into a shop and buy a bag of clean diacetylmorphine produced by a legitimate company and a clean, mass-produced needle and shoot up in the comfort of his own home
>even went so far as to outlaw alcohol in the past century

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>Game developers sacrifice an interesting experience for an accessible one.

The problem here, I think, is that the mindset of the average video game player is that they are being given an experience and not being given an opportunity.

>>283729284
I can't stop alughing at this bullshit.

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>>283729879
>his idea of liberty is citizens being free to pay to feed an addiction that will destroy them and those around them
>uses overturned law that didn't work as example
>believes his lack of guns still leaves him with the right to criticize the liberty of other countries

>>283730336
>his idea of liberty is citizens not being able to do as they please to their own person
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

>>283729256
>where the fuck is the actual challenge and actual achievement?

You should look for challenges and senses of achievement in real life, not video games. It's only this small, pathetic section of gamers that have literally nothing else in their lives other than the games they have played that demand that all games be difficult enough to give them a sense of self worth for toiling over. If you need that kind of validation from a computer game, you should probably kill yourself.

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>>283729284
>he doesn't know there are tens of thousands of sites out there that duplicate other forums with their own ads to look like they have content
you get this all the time with tech help forums

>>283730542
You should look for experiences in real life, not video games.

>>283729284
>This site serves as an archive or backup of the /v/ (Video Games) section of the 4chan boards, where threads and posts are deleted on a regular basis. We host the thumbnails but the full images are served from the original source and might be missing

>>283730336
>>his idea of liberty is citizens being free to pay to feed an addiction that will destroy them and those around them

That whole view of addiction is completely antiquated and believed by absolutely no-one in the scientific community anymore. The consensus it is it societal pressures and alienation that destroys lives, and drug addiction is just a symptom of that.

>>283722259
I seriously don't understand this. Isn't their job to try and break the game so the devs can fix shit?

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>>283728649
You got a source other than your asshole?

Because the only people that would turn in guns in the event of such a fucking thing are
A. People who don't even own guns
B. People who don't even own the shit the government is seeking to ban
Stop speaking about shit you have no idea about.
>>283726892
>I might be a bootlicking subject of a repressive state but at least they allow me to pay a tax so I can shitpost about americans
All these salty europoors make me happy.

>>283730336
>>his idea of liberty is citizens being free to pay to feed an addiction that will destroy them and those around them

That's why it totally destroyed the world back when it was legal in a lot of places right?

The problems come when you can't afford to keep it up, or suddenly get a dose that wasn't cut properly so it's too pure, shit like that. And it can happen just because the price per gram in your area jumped. If it was regulated and sold the issues with it would be way less prominent.

>>283730505
>pretends to lead the world in liberty
>can't go to a store and purchase a clean, legally produced knife
>can't go home and use clean, legally produced knife to end the life of a baby who is under your jurisdiction

freedom my ass tip

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>>283730561
>activated almonds

>>283730561
>0+2015
>not making your coconuts at home

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>>283730561
>cultured vegetables

>>283730765
[citation needed]

>drug addiction "just a symptom"
>ignoring that it's a symptom that creates a huge host of its own symptoms
>ignoring that stopping this symptom alone will greatly increase quality of life

>>283730853
>the problem is when they can't get more after illegally getting addicted in the first place
the problem is that they need more to begin with

>>283731161
If you can get a steady supply there isn't a problem, you may as well say that food is a problem because you always need more.

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>>283729472
>>283727104
>>283722670
>>283723275
>>283724838
>>283724432

>b-b-but nostalgia

>>283731161
>ignoring that stopping this symptom alone will greatly increase quality of life

Which is why abstinence is the number one prescribed treatment for drug addiction?

Oh wait, it's a terrible idea. You fucking moron.

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>>283731262
>there isn't a problem as long as you have a steady supply of heroin

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>>283731335
> city of heroes was taken down

>>283730814
>the only people that would turn in guns in the event of such a fucking thing are [...] people who don't even own guns
CLAP
>I might be a bootlicking subject of a repressive state but at least they allow me to pay a tax so I can shitpost about americans
oh it's not a competition - states do not respect liberty on either side of the Atlantic.

>>283730860
>I should be free to murder a baby. that is liberty.
what? stop dancing around the fact that liberty encompasses the right of manufacture, sale, possession and consumption of all substances.

also, prohibition is presently failing just as hard as it did in the 20s and 30s. but of course, a gargantuan state infringing on liberties is no problem to the biggest self-proclaimed libertarians of all.

>>283726078

Old strategy guides are one of my favorite things in the world.

Still bothers me that people didn't think you couldn't go upstairs just because a guard told you to
IN A STEALTH GAME

>>283727494
>>283727852
I fucking love Dishonored and the 50+ different ways you can assassinate every single target

It's a severely underrated game

>>283731354
not getting addicted in the first place is the number one prescribed treatment for drug addiction
>wanting extremely damaging drugs to be legal since some fucks already got themselves addicted

>>283731335
That ninja gaiden already came out? I totally forgot about it.

>>283722869
Actually games seem better in the past because no matter what I happened to choose at random off the shelf, I got all the good games.

Sure there were shit games but I almost never played them. Except one.

Shaq Fu. What an awful game. I've never sold any of my games in my entire life but I gave that away the first chance I got.

>>283731571
What's the problem if one has access to a steady and unending supply of medical-grade heroin as well as the means to purchase it?

>>283731634
>Implaying those people play it stealthy

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>>283723275
Shit opinion/10.

Values in vidya production have changed and depending on your point of view its for the worse.
I am not a big fan of the "cinematic" experience that modern gaming has taken and so I really couldn't give a fuck about the garbage you fucking casuals play, especially when it breeds nothing but stagnant bullshit with no innovation or actual FUN.
I went into /vr/ collecting because the devs held values that are more in line with my interests and I wish I'd see a resurgence of such things other than some indie faggot aping pixel art.

>>283731335
>no forza horizon 2
>no sunset overdrive
>no far cry 4
>no assassin's creed rogue
>no bayonetta 2
>no wolfenstein the new order
And the list can go on and on. 2014 was a great year for games and your shit biased comparison is terrible. I'm sure you didn't even make it.

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>>283731581

There are plenty of superhero MMOs that are far superior to your old archaic shit games stop whining nostalgiafag

>>283731680
>not getting addicted in the first place is the number one prescribed treatment for drug addiction

Toppest of lels, just admit you have no idea what you are talking about.

Heroin isn't even that damaging, it's the lifestyle/unclean needles/money issues/scarcity that kills people.
You have to treat the cause, not the symptom.

>walk into house
>guard says no killing anybody
>FUCKING I CAN'T BEAT THE MISSION NOW STUPID BUGGED KILLING MECHANIC

>>283731335
Battlefront was actually pretty shit on the PC though anon.

Controls felt horrid. Movement. Bugged out the ass and not even the latest patch fixed it all. Sound was botchy. AI was fucking ridiculous to the point where they'd sit there taking turns at spawncamping your exit port so you'd be down to 10% hull each time you left.

It was a bad version.

PSP or PS2 however it was fine.

>>283731920

I'm a fan of Marvel Heroes, and I disagree. I'm not even sure that I would call Marvel Heroes an MMO. It's a Diablo clone.

>>283729284

MOOOOOOOOT

>>283731680
Here have it in comic form you fucking mouthbreathing idiot http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/comics_en/rat-park/

>>283731680
>extremely damaging
With a reliable source (like that which would be provided by a legitimate fucking market) a person can maintain a lifelong habit and live to die of natural causes with no side effects throughout their life other than constipation.

Those suffering chronic pain and terminal illnesses already know this (to the duration their condition allows).

>>283730787
Playtesting can be conducted to find bugs or just to see how much people enjoy the game in it's current state.

Maybe some testers are only asked to do the latter, I dunno.

>>283731981
>britbong heroin addict trying to defend his damaging addiction based on the fact that some dangers are circumvented from guaranteed clean sources

>>283732118
>b-but addiction doesn't exist it's all societal pressures because muh comic

I love reading stories about really beta casuals and their stupid actions in game.

>>283725608
True, but because they dont have as much overhead as a company. They can afford to appeal to a narrower market.

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>if you do all of these things nobody addicted to drugs fucking does you can live a perfectly normal life addicted
>eurocucks grasping at straws this fucking hard

>>283731917
BAIT

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>>283730561
that thread was a blast

>>283732368
me too

somebody post some

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>>283732341
>you will never be this assblasted by basic facts

>>283722259
>playtester turning right for a half hour
He's just a stoner. Short term memory takes a hit and you can't into mazes without some effort.

>>283731917
>assassin's creed rogue
>far cry 3.5
Fucking seriously?

>And the list can go on and on
Not really it pretty much ends there, give or take a half dozen games. It's not a biased comparision at all, 2014 was deceant compared to 2013 but it was a shit year for games. Also who gives a shit who made that image? Your rebutal is fucking terrible.

>>283732420
caffeine
alcohol

>>283730787
Some playtesters maybe, but other times you are going to have to select an average sample of your consumer base to test you product and see how they like it. If they don't, they aren't going to buy your product, and your venture will have failed and you'll lose money, placing incentive on you conforming to their wishes.

Its nobody's fault that /v/ isn't the main demographic for vidya.
But then again, /v/ is full of casual retards, so maybe it is.

>>283731917
Half of those games are garbage

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>>283732689
>caffeine
Good choice, but doesn't have a ton of side-effects other than fatigue and headache.
>alcohol
You show me a high-functioning alcoholic that isn't propped up with previously earned money or isn't in poverty.

>>283732720
>If they don't, they aren't going to buy your product, and your venture will have failed and you'll lose money

Except focus testing is one of the worst ways to make a product people want to buy. Even if you're pandering to casual retards, they buy games based on hype and marketing, not how hard the levels are.

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>>283732546
>Those people who didn't realize that the muffin is homemade and just has coconut in it
Don't get me wrong, the almonds shit still doesn't make sense, but...

>>283722259

>Ninja Gaiden (Xbox) brings in playtesters
>Shit sucks! It's too hard!
>Based Oatmeal Cookie-san makes the game HARDER
>"Fuck those kids. What the fuck do they know"

Based Cookie. We need more devs like him.
Playtesters ruined portal 2.

>>283732341
>"muh guns" libertarian outs himself as nanny-statist
top

>>283731335
Why do you retards always cherrypick like fucking idiots? Where's Bayonetta 2, Divinity Original Sin, Wolfenstein, Shadow of Mordor, Alien Isolation, Mario Kart 8, Shovel Knight, GTAV etc.?

>inb4 HURR THEY'RE ALL SHIT

>>283733087
>heroin addict labels everyone who doesn't support him as a nanny-statist
>BPD-level black-white distinction

>>283733053
It is, but companies still do it.
Now all you do is make it casual as fuck so the brain dead can play it and viral it for you telling of their positive experiences with the game and couple it with a couple billion in advertising.
If all it took was flashy advertising and hype we'd still be getting ninja gaiden and quake instead of Assassins Creed and CoD.

>>283722780
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8-d0USED0g

>>283723028
All they need to do is add a retard friendly difficulty level after they made the real game.

Why do they constantly have to fuck it up for everybody?

>>283727283
Or maybe fucking use your god given wit and intuition as a human being to escape the confines of your horrid reality and have an expierience.

Maybe.

>>283733374
GTAV came out in 2013 and SoM is mediocre trash with a cool gimmick. The rest are legit good though.

>>283733374
I've only played Alien off of that list and all I can say was that it was mediocre.

>>283731917
I agree that those games were left out, as well as shadow of mordor and Alien Isolation. Don't think any of the games released though were particularly memorable.

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>>283733374
>HURR MUH CHERRYPICKING

Ok fine, go ahead and show me pic related but for 2014, without padding it with re-releases and deadbeat poorfag indie games. Here I'll even get you started

>Bayonetta 2
>Divinity OS
>Wolfenstein
>Alien Isolation
>Forza horizon 2
>Shovel Knight

Now you can finish the rest. I'll wait.

>>283733545
God damn it Fitz why'd you have to stop making videos?

>>283733374
Original Sin is the only good game in that list.

>>283733374
>inb4 HURR THEY'RE ALL SHIT
>inb4 HURR NOSTALGIA

>>283734102
>complains about re-releases
>posts a pic with Twin Snakes

ayyyyyy

>>283734102
>without padding it with re-releases
Dude your fucking list has POKEMON RED in it.

>>283733087
Libertarians are like anarchists and they always are pro-state in the end.

>>283734284

Why do you retards always cherrypick like fucking idiots?

>>283734348

Why do you retards always cherrypick like fucking idiots?

>>283734385
>highlighting your hypocrisy
>cherrypicking

ayyyyyyyy

>>283724972
My favorite bit was the tester who spent half an hour stuck in a spider-bot laser puzzle and they had to plaster a huge fucking spider logo on the wall, and he still couldn't do it. When they asked him why he didn't get the hint, he said he "thought the logo was a decoration"

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>>283730561
>mfw people don't activate their almonds