How dark are the dungeons?

They really aren't that dark, but they still haven't added the darkest ones.

>>283674696

Dankest, but there is chances for trinkets and baubles.

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Why is 2015 the year of sickdark games?

>>283675689

Todd McFarlane is making a comeback, bitch.

>>283675689
I love this meme

>>283675689
I sense that you are DAZED, REELING, ABOUT TO BREAK.

>>283675952
I don't. It's forced as fuck. It doesn't even deserve sarcasm.

Fuck this game
It's not fair, everything is ridiculously weighted to aid the enemies.
>Play with full torch
>Get "Surprised" and have my order shuffled every other fight
>Play with 0 torch
>It's exactly the same, except more depression

Enemies have obscene crit rates and evasion stats too. If you see your move has a 70% chance to hit, don't even bother, it actually means a 0% chance to hit.
Then literally every action I take gives my heroes some horrific disease and I have to waste time and money to cure them, only for them to get that same fucking disease again 5 minutes later.

>>283676448
Looks like someone has a bad case of legitimate complaints.

I've beaten all of the bosses and almost gotten every class to resolve level 6. Is there any word on when the rest of the content is coming?

>>283676448

The problem is that those issues technically aren't game-breaking.

You have literally an infinite number of guys to just send back down there. The ones you grew attached to might die from time to time, but you're still able to progress if you're smart and persistent enough (from what I've seen).

>>283676986
>from what i've seen
cool so you've never experienced this for yourself
piss off

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>Doing the Necromancer Lord mission
>doing pretty good so far
>camp a room before to buff up my party
>SURPRISE ATTACK!
>my party ended up worse than it was before with barely any health at all

>>283676448
But full torch makes it so you surprise your enemies, not the other way around.

I don't get why people don't get that you clearly aren't supposed to get attached to your heroes, that they are all horrible people with horrible personalities and traits delving into horrible dungeons housing horrible things, before they run back to town and "relax" by doing more horrible activities

>>283676448

>Spiders surprise your party
>Actually it doesn't matter if they do because they'll act first anyway
>WEB
>SPIT
>CRITTTTTTT
>Leper down for the fucking count
>Dodges all your shit

I hate spiders so god damn much. They wreck every run I encounter them on.

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>>283677558

Such is life in the dungeon, before you fight the hag remember to make sure you have at least 3 classes that has some kind of ranged attack.

>>283675689
Is that a problem? I've always liked "sickdark" and I'm actually pleasantly surprised to see it being done well. Just wish Neil Gaiman would write a "sickdark" game though.

This game is pretty cool but it does have one thing that really bugs me. Obviously it's drawing on roguelikes, or roguelike-likes or whatever people call these not really roguelike games with roguelike elements now. But generally in roguelikes you get fucked when you do something, you choose to drink a potion not knowing what it will do and get fucked, you choose to press a switch not knowing what it will do etc. You can generally not take the RNG risks if you don't want to and try to rely on things you know to be reliable.

Here you can get massively fucked in ways beyond your control all of the time, which is fun some of the time because dealing with the shit that goes down is a big part of the appeal, but it can get frustrating.

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I AM JERUSALEM.

I hope they'll make the game more fast-paced in the future, after several fights, I can't stand all the little text-bubbles popping up and interrupting the battle. The text and "lore" is good, but please, can I just continue the fight while my heroes say shit?

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>>283678469

>yfw leper knights were actually a real thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Lazarus

>>283676448
just buy some consumable stuff and don't bother looting anything unless you've got the item to counter the trap, because it will always fuck you in the ass.

as for the other stuff, yeah. they made it "difficult" for the sake of being omg2hard5u and the game is pretty retarded in a lot of ways.

>>283678745
Papa Nurgle would be proud,

>>283678745
Those are knights that treated lepers, not knights with leprosy.

>>283677743

that might work except for the fact that once you get any amount of dosh and upgrades, the games terrible balance shines even more. seriously, even rank 1 niggas with just one upgrade on weapons/armor makes the game laughable in comparison to when you start, and the rape train only gets worse. as soon as you get that stuff and actually get a party who stays alive for 2-3 maps, they're fucking unstoppable, and that's without using bounty hunters who 2 shot bosses.

>>283678512
Reminds me of ffx's long ass attack animations. Wound up avoiding a lot of useful attacks. I just want to get more than 4-5 in half an hour. 5 minute fights is reasonable for a average encounter but not when 1/3 of it is lengthy videos or talking.

>>283678062
>Neil Cuckman

>>283675689
Darkest Dungeon is not PC exclusive.

How do I use trinkets effectively? I read somewhere that if you leave them on your characters they can lose them and I'm kinda scared of forgetting to take them off

They also don't seem very useful, at least the ones I found have more drawbacks than positives

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None of my roster can live long enough to make investing in them viable.

>>283679145
Exactly. The game makes it so that your high level heroes dying doesn't matter, since you can just hire new ones and slap upgrades on them and they are just as good as the old ones and you go right back to fighting the shit that killed the old ones.

The characters in this game are as disposable as the gold and items

>>283679259
It is for 2015

>>283679504

Keep recruiting until you find someone worthy, just like xcom you have to put away you feelings and put the rookies through the blender.

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>>283679082

>The Order of Saint Lazarus was a hospitaller and military order of monks that began as a leper hospital outside Jerusalem in the twelfth century and remained associated with leprosy throughout its history. The first monks in this order were leper knights, and they originally had leper grand masters, although these aspects of the order changed over the centuries.

>The order remained primarily a hospitaller order but it did take part in a number of battles, including the Battle of La Forbie on 17 October 1244 (where all of the lazar brethren who fought died) and the Battle of Al Mansurah on 8–11 February 1250. The leper knights were protected by a number of able-bodied knights but in times of crisis the leper knights themselves would take up arms.

>>283679230
I really don't know what you're commenting on. but imagine if there was a "sickdark" game with sandmanesk writing and general head fuckery. That sort of insanity is something he would well. if he was half as good was he was 20 years ago

Reminder that 0 light runs make the game easymode because you won't even have enough inventory space to carry all the loot.

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So are new heroes in in the newest build? And how fucking annoying is stun resistance nowadays in the beginning of the game?

And have you sung your daily praise to the stunning beauty, the whirlwind of metal, flesh and fury that that is the Hellion?
>>283678046
> knows that jester is not useless
But he is. He's just plain shit. Having to gimp others with relying on forward abilities which are often bleh to make him even remotely half arsed is just wrong.

>>283680098
Oddly I find I surprise enemies a hell of a lot more when it's at 0 light then if it's at 100 light.

How bout that RNG eh?

>>283679292
find the good ones, Ancestral ones are generally top tier depending on the class.
Hellion/Highwayman/Leper one is amazing

>>283678469
>>283678745

Just imagine what this guy was like before he caught the disease, he could probably have soloed the whole dungeon.

>>283679920
you're both right. They were knights in pretty much name only for most of the time. But they did fight long enough to learn that it's tantamount to suicide.

>>283680286

Still, it must have scared the shit out of anyone they fought. People wouldn't even get near lepers because they were terrified of catching it, and then one of them is coming at you with a sword.

>>283680207
No, he's tough precisely because he has leprosy. His body does't feel anything besides the constant numbing pain he's felt since his initial infliction, and can't feel his muscles screaming at him to slow the fuck down.

>>283680181
>always do medium/large dungeons over small ones
>don't bring torches, get keys and shovels instead
>get +crit/acc/damage camping skills on your guys
>get a hellion or another heavy hitter
>camp in the first room, use all the buffs on the hellion
>use the remaining points for a highwayman or bounty hunter's tracking skill to avoid being surprised
>cruise through wrecking everything
>stress ain't a problem because dem buffed crits
>loadsa loot because 0 light

gg no re

Leper is the worst class.

Prove me wrong.

>>283680578

But he's fighting with a rusted sword and worn out armor, the guy is a shell of his former self. Leprosy weakens you in every way but feeling pain.

>>283680635
Not like you desperately need the loot anyway.

>>283680683

>Not thriving in the shade

>Not letting the mask down and grossing out your team mates

>>283680796
I wish there was a way to sell artifacts, I've got dozens of them that I'll never use because I only cycle the super duper top tier ones to whatever party I'm using at the moment.

I got this game but didn't play too much, any tips for a begginer? Like what should I do with the skill setup or what classes work well together or something

>>283676448

>It's not fair

That's part of the point, actually. Welcome to the world of adventuring.

>>283681176
There is nothing like a Hellion.

Is this game worth the pricetag? Seems kind of steep considering.

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The camp fire parts genuinely sadden me

The music is super sad and your four people who have the odds against them still manage to find companionship and comfort with each other

Its the worst when someone who helped someone else out dies in the same dungeon

>>283681730

it's fun for a couple hours, but it's pretty shallow and uses a shit load of randomness to make up for shortcomings.

>>283681730
Not at all. Its a good game but not $20 for an incomplete game good. Just pirate and buy when it goes on sale

>>283681730
Yeah at least wait until it's all released imo.

They may be shit tier but I really like Grave Robber and Jester, they crit all the fucking time for me

>>283681730
why don't you pirate it and find out
do you honestly have any moral objections to something like that?
you're fucking scum, just do what's easiest

Are there any casters in the game?

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>>283678745
I want more like this. where to get

>>283679635
When's this shit coming to consoles?

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>>283682561
>they crit all the fucking time for me
Which is why they're not shit tier. Or, at least, the GR, I don't use the Jester.

>kill shit fast
>relieving everyone's stress while doing so

>>283675689
I dunno. I've always liked Gothic dark fantasy. Maybe it's that some games are just finally doing a good job of it and thus getting more attention.

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>>283676448
Congratulations. You've figured out you're beta testing a phone game with all the frustration features (everything costs more than it earns you; RNG that invalidates any strategy; technically endless game...) but not yet having a cash shop to sell you boosts. Look forward to the cash shop update.

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>>283678062
If Neil Gaiman played games he'd be Neil Gamin'

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>>283676448
>You literally cant lose
> Its to hard
Are you all to stupid to abort the quest when things go south? Its not really a dungeon crawler, more a hero trainer. Its fun, but not really hard.

>>283681932
>Everyone is revulsed by the Leper taking off his mask
>The broken and hopeless Crusader refuses to let the the Plague Doctor's attempts to heal his mortal wounds
>The Jester mocks her for being useless to everyone else's amusement and pushing her over the edge
>She becomes Abusive and starts harming her patient whne he needs her help the most

Yeah, good times Anon

>>283682561
Grave Robber is top tier because throw daggers and that other skill that hits two enemies in the middle

Sun Ring is the perfect trinket

Discuss

>>283675689
>Tfw love the gothic artstyle for these games
What other games have them?

>>283683387
mah dik is the perfect trinket.

>>283682720
They kinda are compared to the far more reliable and effective classes.

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>>283683457
The Warhammer Fantasy games are grimdark gothic.

>>283683387
I don't know what that does but seeing as it has sun in the name I guess it's something that only occurs at high lighting which is useless for pitch black runs, the only dungeon runs you should do.

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>yfw someone goes heroic in a clutch situation

>>283683457
Tower of Latria in Demon's Souls is pretty much that. Also Valley of Defilement is pretty much "sickdark" in the swamp.

>>283683132

>Use mock
>Leper's stress goes up

Way to pick the easy targets, dickhead.

>>283683636
So is VerminTide basically going to be Warhammer Fantasy Left 4 Dead with Skaven instead of zombies?

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>>283683457
Limbo
Every 40k game (Dawn of War)
arguably Gothic 1+2

>>283683753
Read the post again. The Jester didn't mock the Leper

So is there any downside to just chucking new recruits into horrible, deadly situations to farm Estate Upgrade stuff?

>>283675689
is sickdark an actual term or is this just a new dank meem?

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>>283683132
>leper goes mad early on in the dungeon
>eh whatever my team is good
>have jester in back play his buff song
>leper says "NO DONT BOTHER I WANT TO DIE"
>jester does not play him a tune
>mfw

>>283683746
Don't use memes on Demon's Souls, man, you're insulting the best Souls game.

>>283683457
Lords of the Fallen

>>283678062
>sickdark

I'm still completely convinced that there is just single one person trying desperately to force this to be a thing.

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>>283683819
That's the plan, yes. At least it won't be Evolve tier of DLC.

>>283683941

It was from my own gameplay

>>283683970
I think a few bloggers used it and /v/ started using it as a meme. Pretty gets slapped on any game with a Gothic art style and elements of sickness or plague as a plot point.

>>283683970
forced maymay
like cyberpunk being a genre with locations where it rains all the time
or limb based fighter

>>283683219
> top tier
She's not jester useless but the knife throw isn't all that, Hellion does it better. The only thing she really does fair is the dual strike on the 2-3 placements.

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>>283683000
FUCKING NIGGER I HATE YOU, STICK YOUR GOBLET UP YOUR SKELLY ASS.
nice trips
captcha: ibutt

How is Mordheim City of the Damned? Does it show promise?

>>283683970
>>283684041
as much of a "meme" as it is it describes those things rather well. An obtuse and cruel environment rife with sickness, insanity and darkness. So despite me not liking it's origins I think it's fitting nonetheless.

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>entire party is insane
>Leper refuses to heal 2 out of 3 times
>Vestal hurts herself
>Highwayman passes his turn WHEN HE ISN'T CRITTING
>Occultist keeps shuffling party

>mfw they still kill the apprentice necromancer

>>283684191

It's the new SUPERIOR LIMB BASED COMBAT, and whatever you'd call that guy who made threads about being in game design class and he made a super grimdark fighting game. I'm pretty sure all of these are the same guy.

>>283684282
Hey, it's fine by me. It being like L4D I mean. The multiplayer scheme is enjoyable and as long as they don't try to shekel me to death I'll definitely be giving it a play.

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>tfw howl crit

>>283684605
>tfw skull throw crit

36 damage, holy shit

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>Eldritch Cultist addles your mind with an evil spell
>Get some stress
>Teammate on the brink of death
>Get some stress
>Starving
>Get some stress

>Stop and read a book
>"Aw man that's pretty messed up"
>Get a ton of stress

>>283684605
Blanket fire is far worse. Howl is neither here nor there if your party isn't desperate for sanity.

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>rabid nashers surprise your party
>they give your whole party rabies on the first turn

>>283683963

no, because once you get the resources to do those upgrades you'll never lose a character again aside from a ridiculous RNG streak.

>fighting the vomiting pig things with a million speed
>pig goes first
>crit
>my highway gets a permanent disease
>2nd pig attacks
>crit
>another of my crew gets a disease

fuck

youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

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>>283684485
>as it is it describes those things rather well
NO IT FUCKING DOESN'T YOU COCKMONGLER! Grimdark was the original term and its a perfect description. Sickdark doesn't even make sense, the games that get called sickdark aren't sick (they're babies' first grimdark setting), they don't make you feel sick.

>>283684935
did the rabbit die

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>>283684605
>Brigand Bloodletter uses Point Blank shot
>CRITICAL HIT! 22 Damage
>Death's door
>Brigand Fusilier uses Blanket fire
>dodge dodge dodge Deathblow !

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>>283682948

>>283682948
If Neil Gaiman was a priest he'd be Neil Amen

>not even four rooms into the dungeon and my party starts starving twice
>forced to eat all my food rations
>can't replenish shit when I need to camp further on

This is the only thing they really need to fix. Starvation seems to be random as fuck

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lmao

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1424151535030.webm

>>283685936
I was actually about to mention this

Like one time I did a long mission with 2 campfires and my party only wanted to eat once

Then I do a short mission and sometimes they want to eat 3 times

I don't get it

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>>283686436
HOLY SHIT

>>283686436
Well that's one way of baiting viewers.

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>>283686436

>>283686436
my sides. that was pretty much how I felt once but I just stopped playing that day. Went out to see a friend for a drink to complain about RNG.

>>283684605
fucking butters
wasn't that the MEMEING episode? Is 'reporting' a thing yet?

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>>283685936

>Finish all the room battles
>Quest complete
>"Well, I might as well check out one more room then head out. I have plenty of food, so I can heal up the party a bit in case I find a fight."
>Use remaining food to heal up my part
>Take two steps
>YOU NEED TO EAT
>STARVE
>Everyone takes huge damage and stress

>>283683630
There were pretty significant rebalancing. Hellion stacking is shit now, GR is monstrous crit/accuracy machine of murder when stacking raw damage increases, and Jester has always been the same, broken as fuck in the right comp (0 light crit rushdown sweeping).

>>283685225
grimdark is not the same it's close and shares some of the same elements but it's not the same.
Let me put it this way
Boletaria - gothic fantasy
oppressive architecture some sickly enemies but not really crazy. Lots of death but the really as much sickness or insanity. Other than the dragon the enemies are mostly humanoid and not that scary.
Stonefang Tunnels- idk fantasy
I'm just gonna skip this one
Tower of Latria- sickdark and grimdark
Dark, filthy, lot of insanity and mental anguish. Not so much plague but there's a horrid swamp filled with grotesque and contorted figures.
Shrine of Storms- grimdark
Grim place it's mostly undead but there's a cleanliness to it's runes. It's bleak and largely colorless.
Vally of Defilement- sickdark
Insanity, and plague are the defining attributes of this place. So much so you feel relived to just foot on dry ground. The architecture alone makes you feel nauseated and uneasy. But the enemies are mostly humanoid but baring obvious signs of disease.

>>283674696
Is the plague doctor a grill?
I think I see breasts.

>>283686436
autistic temper tantrum manbabby

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>>283687586
Papa Nurgle has always been grimdark.
>but muh diseases!
So every zombie game ever is sickdark?

>>283687753
Yeah it's a girl. You can tell from the gear descriptions.

>>283687753
Yes.

>>283687872
by using the word, you feed the memeforcingfaggot

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>>283687874
>gril plague doctor
Not ok with this.

>>283687874
>>283687917
Interesting. I know what to search for now.

>>283688023
Don't expect better from the Warhammer corner. They feed anything cuz /tg/ doesn't get trolled. :^)

>>283687872
>So every zombie game ever is sickdark?
no. Most zombie games are set in a semi realistic modern environment. Largely wrecked in what we can assume was the initial outbreak. The environment itself is not of much particular interest. Where as sick dark the environment perpetuates the fear of illness. It's often an obtuse fantasy world with features that seem like they're contrived by a ill mind. The enemies themselves are often organic to the environment. Zombies are not.

I want Grave Robber x Plague Doctot yuri

>>283675952
>>283676085
>>283683970
>>283684386
>>283684387
>>283684485

No one seems to remember that the term "artificial difficulty" wasn't a real term until it started being spouted around on here after Dark/Demons souls. I swear I never heard it before then and now its caught on.

"Sickdark" might not be a real term, but I actually think it describes these sort of games rather well. They are dark (obviously) and kind of have a sickly, dirty quality to their styles.

>>283676718
this. I love this game, but it is really unbalanced at times. In order to get any money, I usually end up making several runs with trash teams that I then just dismiss or kill off while my good teams are recuperating.

>>283689452
It's a stupid term that doesn't convey anything differently than grimdark conveys.
Let's just add revengeance to our vocabulary while we're at it.

>>283677743
Im going to disagree with you on the torch point. In practice a full torch is supposed to surprise enemies, but I have had my entire party surprised, while at 100% torch light on multiple occasions. its annoying as all hell.

>>283689452
>artificial difficulty
Is a bullshit term because there is no such thing as natural difficulty. It's a videogame, everything in it has been put there by the devs.

>>283677998
fucking this.

also running through any fucking level with high amounts of blight-causing enemies. im not made out of money dammit. i cant buy a shitton of antidotes every time i want to go into the weald. especially since items dont carry over.

>>283689452
I still don't get the term artificial difficulty or why or if it's a bad thing. I just thought it was the casuals excuse as to why they suck dick at videogames.

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>>283675689

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>>283689452
>No one seems to remember that the term "artificial difficulty" wasn't a real term until it started being spouted around on here after Dark/Demons souls.
>4chan creates everything on the internet
I know a cuck when I see one, so believe me when I tell you that you're certifiably a dumb cuck.

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>>283686436

>losing to that boss

>>283674696
Sorry I don't play sickdark games.

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>>283689943
It's for people who think that an accurate descriptor such as "trial and error" gameplay is not insulting enough. They hide their casualness by saying it's the game that's wrong.

>>283678745
The guy in kingdom of heaven was based on a real historical character.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_IV_of_Jerusalem

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Save this you stupid niggers and stop looting everything.

>>283674696
I can't play the game.
How is it?

The artstyle reminds me Dark Spire.
It is anything like it ?

>>283690496
Fun.

Why can't you play it?

>>283690496
>can't play the game.
Because it makes you feel sick?

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>>283690436
*tips goblet*

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>>283690717

>>283690582
>>283690624
I can't play it because OpenGL dropped support for my video card.
I have a megatoaster.

>>283678046
Uhh, is the leper BAD or just eeh?
Because he seems pretty cool, combat performance aside.

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>Helion tanks seven Death's Door hits against the Swine Prince after everyone else died
>managed to win

I probably shouldn't have killed Wilbur first

>>283690160
Is cuck the new edgy/autistic?

>>283690904
His damage is good but you'll need to give him +acc trinkets. Once you have that he'll destroy stuff, especially if you take a turn to apply Revenge.

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>>283676448
While RNG can hurt you. I 've never had a point where I thought it screwed me over. Unlike what >>283682795 says, RNG does not tend to invalidate your strategy, just make it tougher or easier.

What most people tend to do is grab the basic shit they need for the one dungeon run and don't account for the unexpected.

Take some extra food, its cheap enough. Maybe a couple of more torches. Figure out which area you are going to and figure out the side items that will disable the traps on those particular interactables. The money you get for a full explore/run is more than enough to make that back.

For example the forest almost always has beast carcasses lying around and if you have the item that removes diseases you usually get around 12 food just from that to waste healing your party up if they need it.

Also try not to have a party that is so reliant in only one spot. Grab crusader's lance strike in case you get surprised so he can get back in the action without wasting turns.

In fact I complain that it gets too easy once you upgrade your armor at least once and the vestal gets the next level of her healing abilities.

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>>283675689
>meanwhile, on xbox one

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>Crusader da best
>All day, every day
>Fuck heretics
>I'd break on the wheel, Occultist, but you got the dankest shit so you cool

>>283691063

In the sense that it gets thrown around enough to lose all meaning, yes

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>>283686436
>tfw not anthony birtch or that guy

>>283674696

>>283689773
I don't have the issue but I might just be lucky or something. The mechanic is supposed to work in that certain way, the RNG just does pull some bullshit. Which is annoying if it happens. The makers clearly have to fine tune it, so that what the game says will happen when you do thing actually does happen.

>>283674696
Alright can someone confirm if the person that did the animated cinematics for The Witcher 2 also do most of the art for this game because holy shit it looks so similar.

>>283686436
How the FUCK do you do THAT badly against the easiest boss in the game?

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>>283674696

TRIGGERED

>>283676448
>>283677743
>>283689773
not if the road ahead isnt scouted. you can surprise enemies in full darkness.
also in full darkness ++loot and ++crits.
crits reduce stress so you can actually just go full on torchless and just recuperate in town np

>>283677998
plague doctor: blind last two / shift ranks / just smash the ever living fuck out of the back / hit the first two. the front two are inconsequential though. frankly you have Too many option to deal with it. also plague heal.

barb: focus heals plague then breakthrough. or just breakthrough spiders die in 1 hit anyways. 2 at champion level

Why are all the heals so shit when the enemies do 10+ damage per turn

>>283692139
I would assume they exist to extend the fight not to undo all the damage dealt.

>>283692285
Shoulda just made better buffing spells

all heals do is stop deaths door

Is there some trick I'm missing to Wyrd Reconstruction?

It seems like it has a lot of potential, but then I get long strings of healing 1 or nothing, despite the fact that it's supposed to heal up to 10+.

>>283691063
Sure. Much like: edgy, autistic, fedora, SJW, etc. "cuck" has lost all meaning and can be applied to virtually anything that irritates you. It's 4chan's new "faggot".

>>283691943
>crits reduce stress so you can actually just go full on torchless and just recuperate in town np

So it basically comes down as to whether your party gets their buffs in light or dark.

>>283692139

Leave the weakest enemy alive, stunlock him and heal your guys up. Hope the selfish crusader doesn't crit him to death immediately cuz of MUH VICTORY.

>>283691181

>take some extra food

it's still retarded that hunger is completely random. it doesn't matter if it's cheap or easy to get more. when you can run one dungeon and not eat for 6 rooms and then do another where people are treating it as a buffet and downing a meal every room, there is a problem. i don't find the game that difficult since like you mentioned with armor, your party turns into gods after some time. hell, i don't remember the last character i had to recruit and i'm over 30 weeks in, but the game feels real shit all around because of things like that. why there is no turn indicator blows my fucking mind. it's bad enough that the enemies always go first, but you don't even know when you get to do your shit.

>>283692139
Heals aren't meant to keep up with enemy damage.

>>283692556
>playing an old build
They made it so you can't do this anymore.

>>283692453
> Is there some trick I'm missing to Wyrd Reconstruction?
Nope, it's just so random it's not really viable.

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>>283678934
It's mainly because of RNG but that's the fun of it playing against it and the few times it works your way feel godly.

>>283692556

can't do that anymore. they become immune to the shit and after 5 rounds your people start stressing, because playing with an armless legless skeleton at 1hp is 2stressful ;_;

>>283692139
it's not meant to completely counter enemies dealing damage. once you get some armor upgrades it'll be fine, as you won't take nearly as much. now, why buffs are so shit is a good question. they're all pointless and you're better off yoloswagging and instagibbing something in a round.

>>283692556
Patches happened anon
You gain stress if you don't deal or take any damage
Getting stunned gives a bonus to stun resistance

>>283692453
>>283692831
Give the Occultist trinkets that lower your chance to cause Bleeds. The best one being the Cleansing Crystal.

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>>283692453

Occultist is a gamblin man's healer.

>tfw scoring a 10 heal with no bleed

HOW QUICKLY THE TIDE TURNS!

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>>283683000
FUCK THE GUY IN THE PIC WITH A FUCKING SHOTGUN

>>283692751
>>283693054
>>283693061

Well fuck. I thought it was bad enough when that one last enemy critted your front guy for 1 damage and 30 stress.

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>>283693168
How quickly the tide turns.

>>283676054
underated post

>>283686436
HOLY SHIT

>>283677558
>>283684762
>>283685125
>>283685308
>>283687438
> fighting necro lord
> crits, makes skele
> healer please go first
> hit all, makes skele
> crusader dead
> welp
> lord crits healer makes skele
> skele hits
> healer dead
> it probably over
> hellion dead
> its over...
> high way man dodges 9 times
> limps home with loot in tow
> you earned a fine whore my friend

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>>283693061
>You gain stress if you don't deal or take any damage
>Hunger is a random proc
These things are NOT okay. And they don't even make sense.

>>283674696

What does "Monster tag" on the Bount Hunter's attack mean? Does it mean a monster that's marked or just anything that's categorized as a monster?

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>not just playing Elona+

>>283693386
Are you fucking retarded?`

That was added explicitly, and only occurs when, you try to cheese the game by healing and removing stress while dragging on a fight.

>>283674696
Everyting is great about this game, except the fact it doesn't have beautiful animations. Seriosly, wtf is this Imma swing muh sword in the air thing?

>>283693386

It's really stupid. If a party member had ADHD or something, then I could see it.

>>283693389

Tags enemies so you can hit them for massive damage.

>>283693386
>You gain stress if you don't deal or take any damage
This was added because faggots like you who abused the stun mechanic.

>>283683000
>>283693168
>>283693273

mother fucker ruined my shirt
>++stress

>>283693061
>You gain stress if you don't deal or take any damage
Really? I never tried the strat because cheating the game like that, just takes away the fun. What do the characters say to justify the stress?

Where are the goddamn mages in this game.

I want to shoot some fireballs and freeze some undead.

Is this worth 20$?

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>>283693273
He's almost as fucking annoying as the autistic 343 dmg aoe crit fusilier

>>283693648

>Wasting fine wine

My stress is palpable

>>283693389
A monster thats Mark. Occultist is Bounty Hunter's best friend.

>>283693679
>What do the characters say to justify the stress?
"We should stop wasting our time with this trash"

>>283693728
No.

>>283693679
>My feet hurt
>Why are the pigs so loud
>When is mom taking us home from this dungeon?
>I wish I was at the altar praying

>>283693728
Not yet.

>>283692540
risk/reward
light is easier to get home with low stress.
in dark you're just rotating a lot more

>>283693386
It's an attempt to balance things taken to the point where they're not fun anymore especially since it's a single player game. It seems to happen with more and more devs lately, happened to Original Sin as well.

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>>283674696
Can't we just all agree that the Hag is literally satans spawn? Fuck that bitch

>>283693627
>>283693559
>it's the players' fault that the devs make broken mechanics

>>283693708
Don't you tired of all this old stuff? Why not want someting like a fucking dragonbreath monstrous dragon soul firestorm and dark brutal devastating magic?

>>283693728
about 10? 12? last two dungeons arent implemented yet

>>283694019
The devs made a broken mechanics
Players exploited it
Devs patches it out

Now you get mad at the devs saying that it should stay in the game?

Get a grip guy

>>283683970

I guess you can call it the

DANKEST MEME

I liked the setting and I'm actually interested in the main storyline as well. Will probably pick it up when it's complete, unless they butcher it and make it tedious instead of fun in which case I'll probably just pirate it.

>>283693708
so you want white mage, black mage, warrior, thief?
i think theres a game like that.

>>283694243
>Devs patches it out
They plugged the hole by nailing the player character on top of it.

I pirated it about a week ago. Are there any new updates I should check out?

>>283689452
its called gothic or poe-ish

>>283694437
Wait what if you keep a character only for the heals? does he gain stress for not attacking as well ? that seems pretty shitty

>>283694575
Or lovecraftian because of the emphasis on the mental state of characters

>>283694437
As opposed to what? The mindless undead ghoul running away? Randomly exploding? Horabu sudoku? How would you stop the player form blatantly abusing a mechanic?

>>283694437
I don't get you guy

Do you want the healing and stunlockig bullshit to be in the game or not?
If yes then you are a retard if no then what the fuck is your issue with the current fix?

>>283694580
EVERY character in your party gains stress if you don't deal any damage to the enemy for multiple rounds in a row.

>>283690160
Do you even know what a cuck is you little faggot? Jesus fucking Christ, you turbo nerds just spout whatever word is popular at the time out of your cum infested faceholes.

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>mfw i'm a poorfag that has to wait several months to get a 20 euro game.

>>283694757
Seriously disagree with the healer gaining stress for not attacking. I do find the idea good but it wrecks healers too hard

>>283694736
That's right. Add a stress threshold to enemies. Once they're all alone and beyond the threshold you have x turns to get rid of them or they flee with the treasure.

>>283694824
You don't need to be so upset over getting your facts wrong about the origins of the phrase artificial difficulty, friend.

>>283680132
dodge and crit are the most advantageous
stat
>>283694716
lovecraftian _horror_ emPhasis on horror not so much sickness. mental health more so than physical.

>>283695026
Sorry my King. May your wife be slammed by the biggest of BBCs.

>>283694903
>I'm a whiny cunt who can't pirate

>>283694961
Again what the fuck are you on about?

The ENTIRE PARTY gains stress if THE ENTIRE PARTY doesn't do any damage and receives little damage for multiple rounds.

Jesus fuck.

>>283694903
jesus get some damn rice. I'm poor as shit and I can still afford $60 usd worth of games a month. Mainly because having rice with every meal and steel cut oats for breakfast cuts that amount out of my grocery budget every month.

>>283695231
I'm a whiny cunt that won't pirate.

>>283694575
Gothic is low fantasy, poe-ish is dramatic and grim dark is dark and ambient. you can pretty much tell them apart by what colors they use.

>>283694976
What does a mindless undead ghoul or a necromancer who has delved deep into the dark arts have to be stressed about?

>>283694580
no, he just does not benefit from attack crits relieving stress except from neighbor unit crits. theyre usually in the back row out of the range though.

>>283695238
Ok so if one guy doesn't damage and the others do there's no extra stress right?
That's great then

>>283684456
Videos looked fucking sweet, similar to Xcom in a way, in that you control a small team and it's turn based, which I like.

>>283695450
The same thing an adventurer who toys with an enemy knowing he can decimate him at any time but choosing not to has to be stressed about.

>>283695513
Yeup.

>>283695326
What a moral colossus you are.

>>283695416
>you can pretty much tell them apart by what colors they use.
don't say that or else people will just reduce it to
>muh colors
or some equally asinine and trivial argument.

So what games are there that are similar to this?
I know there's dorf fort adventure mode, but the lack of graphics kind of makes the solo adventurer bit kind of boring to me. Normal fort is great though.

I may just start another campaign in darkest dungeon if anything I guess.

>>283693559
You can still somewhat do this by stun locking an opponent and using buffs heals on everything else :D just hope that you don't crit the enemy with your stun and kill him by mistake.

>>283695680
I'm just too lazy to get updates.

>>283695593
The fact that he's using his healers as a tool and toying with a creature of cannot be like some sort of strange sadist.

Besides. I thought your characters wouldn't attack a dungeon with enemies to weak for them, and even the you're still in a dungeon full of dangerous shit twidling your thumbs with a dangerous enemy

Where are some other games with characters that aren't entirely under your control that have some opportunity to develop a bit of their own "personality" through performance? Darkest Dungeon, XCOM, Dragon's Dogma, etc.

>>283695915
No you can't
Enemies gain stun resistance that goes up to 100% every time they get stunned.

>>283695695
>>283695416
so.. black vs black vs black?
also

>>283696017
pokemons

>>283695326
Dude it's alright to pirate the game if you can't afford it I'm sure the devs would want you to play the game more than they want you money (if they aren't jews of course)

>>283696036
>somewhat
You read that right?

>>283696120
Not at all, stunlocking an enemy and then healing doesn't work.

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>>283686436

>>283696273
Whatever you say buddy...

So did the hellion only get her breakhrough nerfed?

>>283696017
the last remnant? it not the same though.

>>283676085
I think it's stupid but it's going to catch on and you know it

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>>283695291
>rice and oats
>going to make it
My inner /fit/ weeps

>>283684456
>>283695580
It shows that the Early Access is just beta testing before a console release.

>Gambling: the game

>>283696458
Think so, don't know how good it was before. She's still rape incarnate though.

>>283696458
break through has a debuff
stuns +20 stun buff
plague doctor heals now so now you have a reason to upgrade the skill

thats all ive noticed

>>283682718
supposedly august/september for PS4, that's all I know

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>>283686436
>Being such an autist that you break your keyboard

The ponytail should've warned us

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Dankest character.

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>>283696893
>That peeking bush

>>283695291
>Eating nothing but grains

You're going to get fat as fuck and die

>>283696893
>In dark ass dungeon
>Chick starts getting naked
>Get stressed

I don't get it.

>>283696582
you don't have to make it boring all the time there's a shit ton of rice dishes. Like the korean sour kimchi rice with an egg on top or fried rice. I'm lazy but like having pretty food so I pretty much make donburis for every none breakfast meal. Steel cut oats can also be really flexible they can be savory or sweet.

>>283697068
> peeking bush
> hidden harbl

>>283697204
They're obviously virtouos.

>>283697204

They are losing stress, which is heresy.

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>>283696893
little bushyness makes my dick so fucking hard.

>>283697273
>american single on rice with tomato sauce dressing
delish

>>283697185
I'm skinny as fuck. You see that part that says "with every meal" meaning it's not all I'm eating. I have meat and seasonal vegetables with it too also eggs.

>>283697585
I heaved up a little something as I read that.

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>>283698145

>>283690868
You mean your graphics card manufacturer dropped OpenGL support, or you just haven't got drivers installed.

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>Your face when this game made you realize that going on an actual dungeon adventure would not be fun in the slightest

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>>283691810
Scrub.

>>283699324
>not playing Roguelikes and realizing this already

Especially Infra Arcana and Cataclysm.

>>283699324

Would beat my average life even if it would end horribly.

>>283698982
he probably means he can't openGL 2.0 because the support only goes so far.. Like most intel chipsets from 5 years or more back. They're fucking so horrible there's custom bios tutorials out before they even think about making an update.

>>283699324
>adventuring in dark, spoopy dungeons with a rundown hamlet to come back to
Adventurer's in dankest dungeon are all either stupid or insane, there are much better alternatives that still provide excitement.

>>283699867

But are they as lucrative financially wise? Where else could you make your fortune on a brave night?

>>283699685
Other anon here, this guy is right. But still, is there any way to make this game run with an Intel G31/G33 Chipset?
I have a megatoaster as well.

>>283700161
None of the gold/gems ever go to the adventurers in Darkest, you only spend it on them when they need some reprieve/food (which they wouldn't need if they weren't having to go through hell and back every day) or they're a kleptomaniac.
I'm pretty sure you could go shovel shit and still make more bank, all the adventurers in Darkest are in it because they don't have an alternative (highwayman, grave robber) or they want to kill things/smite evil (plague doc, crusader)

Been eyeballing this one pretty hard. Would you guys suggest this or The Forest? I have a card with some cash on it and I want to pick up a title that I can just sink hours into since I can play anything Multiplayer at the moment due to shit internet.

>>283700720
The Forest is shit. I believe that this is answer enough.

>>283700232
well you could go the custom bios road but that's a dangerous road. Or look and see if you have some empty pci slots or some place you could stick a graphics card. (yes the make babby ones for some laptops too) If the game only runs in openGL2 you're probably fucked with your current hardware.

>>283700720
Pirate both, don't pay for early access games.
Buy them when they come out or the actual content in the games are worth paying for, neither are really worth the number right now.

>>283700843
I have an old ass graphics card around, I believe it still works. Don't know which one though, can't see it anywhere on the card. I only know that it's 128mb.
Also, the steam page says "OpenGL 3.2+".

>$20 is probably more than the game is worth.
>Don't feel like pirating it because they dev will probably release quite a few patches.
Life is suffering.